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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by bob1 on Dec 16, 2007 17:38:10 GMT 1, Big up to all that went, I wanted to get out there but was unable due to moving, gonna get out there sometime next year.
If I could plus you all I would
Bob
Big up to all that went, I wanted to get out there but was unable due to moving, gonna get out there sometime next year.
If I could plus you all I would
Bob
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by stuey09 on Dec 16, 2007 23:56:34 GMT 1, Just a few things worth mentioning to those still thinking about going over. If you possibly can, then do it. From a street art perspective it is a very worthwhile experience. The art on the wall and surrounding area is at worst good, but in general it is magnificent. Due to the scale of some works you will have to see it in the flesh to appreciate it, but also to fully get it, you'll have to put it in the context of the surroundings. The work within the SG shop will have you drooling - personal favourite being Peter Kennard and Cat Phillip's Soldier 1. Also there are still plenty of the excellent Flag prints available and it is a superb image. However, above and beyond the great art, is the opportunity to have a look for yourself at what is going on over there, rather than reading about it. It wasn't too difficult getting into the country, except for one member of staff at Heathrow everyone that I dealt with was polite and reasonably friendly. So I think the earlier posts of intimidation and latex gloves are no longer such an issue as they're now used to us going over. Not going to harp on about the politics of the place, it's up to each to make up their own mind, but better seeing it for yourself than getting the BBC's version. So if work commitments allow, book it, pack it and f**k off over to SG. You'll love it. spot on mate, my experience exactly ! sorry we missed each other bro.. didn't have time to get back in and out of Bethlehem. Did you hook up with Martin and Leon ?
I did, along with Graeme, Sham 69, Loupy and Monstris. All great forum members and the good company enhanced the experience.
There was some amazing art on the wall by an artist called K-NOB. Any information on him/her?
Just a few things worth mentioning to those still thinking about going over. If you possibly can, then do it. From a street art perspective it is a very worthwhile experience. The art on the wall and surrounding area is at worst good, but in general it is magnificent. Due to the scale of some works you will have to see it in the flesh to appreciate it, but also to fully get it, you'll have to put it in the context of the surroundings. The work within the SG shop will have you drooling - personal favourite being Peter Kennard and Cat Phillip's Soldier 1. Also there are still plenty of the excellent Flag prints available and it is a superb image. However, above and beyond the great art, is the opportunity to have a look for yourself at what is going on over there, rather than reading about it. It wasn't too difficult getting into the country, except for one member of staff at Heathrow everyone that I dealt with was polite and reasonably friendly. So I think the earlier posts of intimidation and latex gloves are no longer such an issue as they're now used to us going over. Not going to harp on about the politics of the place, it's up to each to make up their own mind, but better seeing it for yourself than getting the BBC's version. So if work commitments allow, book it, pack it and f**k off over to SG. You'll love it. spot on mate, my experience exactly ! sorry we missed each other bro.. didn't have time to get back in and out of Bethlehem. Did you hook up with Martin and Leon ? I did, along with Graeme, Sham 69, Loupy and Monstris. All great forum members and the good company enhanced the experience. There was some amazing art on the wall by an artist called K-NOB. Any information on him/her? |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by monstris on Dec 17, 2007 3:32:53 GMT 1, spot on mate, my experience exactly ! sorry we missed each other bro.. didn't have time to get back in and out of Bethlehem. Did you hook up with Martin and Leon ? I did, along with Graeme, Sham 69, Loupy and Monstris. All great forum members and the good company enhanced the experience. There was some amazing art on the wall by an artist called K-NOB. Any information on him/her?
Yeah...I saw his/her work too -- very simple and straight to the point. The local driver said was British... but I doubt that's any help.... But if he/she is, then some more info and snaps of work on here would be most helpful. Will keep my eye out around Londontown for K-NOB works.
spot on mate, my experience exactly ! sorry we missed each other bro.. didn't have time to get back in and out of Bethlehem. Did you hook up with Martin and Leon ? I did, along with Graeme, Sham 69, Loupy and Monstris. All great forum members and the good company enhanced the experience. There was some amazing art on the wall by an artist called K-NOB. Any information on him/her? Yeah...I saw his/her work too -- very simple and straight to the point. The local driver said was British... but I doubt that's any help.... But if he/she is, then some more info and snaps of work on here would be most helpful. Will keep my eye out around Londontown for K-NOB works. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by craigmccluskey on Dec 17, 2007 8:52:13 GMT 1, Me and my bro (canniebe fannied) just got back it was fantastic experience anybody hesitating should just do it they wont regret it ,a big thanks to everybody here who helped us make up our mind and for the usefull info.
a bit gutted about the banksy donkey which had been white washed over the morning we were there ,some locals looked at it as though it was offensive to them,our taxi driver went crazy trying to explain the meaning.
what a job pow have done a big up to all there and thanks for giving uo the an experience we will never forget,
swoon and ron english were doing some pieces while we were there ,ill post photos later on.
Me and my bro (canniebe fannied) just got back it was fantastic experience anybody hesitating should just do it they wont regret it ,a big thanks to everybody here who helped us make up our mind and for the usefull info.
a bit gutted about the banksy donkey which had been white washed over the morning we were there ,some locals looked at it as though it was offensive to them,our taxi driver went crazy trying to explain the meaning.
what a job pow have done a big up to all there and thanks for giving uo the an experience we will never forget,
swoon and ron english were doing some pieces while we were there ,ill post photos later on.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by craigmccluskey on Dec 17, 2007 8:55:04 GMT 1, Me and my bro (canniebe fannied) just got back it was fantastic experience anybody hesitating should just do it they wont regret it ,a big thanks to everybody here who helped us make up our mind and for the usefull info.
a bit gutted about the banksy donkey which had been white washed over the morning we were there ,some locals looked at it as though it was offensive to them,our taxi driver went crazy trying to explain the meaning.
what a job pow have done a big up to all there and thanks for giving uo the an experience we will never forget,
swoon and ron english were doing some pieces while we were there ,ill post photos later on.
Me and my bro (canniebe fannied) just got back it was fantastic experience anybody hesitating should just do it they wont regret it ,a big thanks to everybody here who helped us make up our mind and for the usefull info.
a bit gutted about the banksy donkey which had been white washed over the morning we were there ,some locals looked at it as though it was offensive to them,our taxi driver went crazy trying to explain the meaning.
what a job pow have done a big up to all there and thanks for giving uo the an experience we will never forget,
swoon and ron english were doing some pieces while we were there ,ill post photos later on.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by lside on Dec 19, 2007 14:12:14 GMT 1, Got back last night and I’d like to say a quick thank you to all the members who had shared their tales and words of advice.
I was fully prepared with the all ‘right’ answers on the way in and had decided that honesty was going to be the best approach on our return. We were lucky enough to have a relatively painless experience but that didn’t mean our nerves weren’t tested at every point! Keeping our answers brief definitely aided the process I think.
Like those who had gone before, we had an incredible, humbling, eye opening and much recommended trip.
We spent (an incredibly quick) 6 hours with our taxi driver, come tour guide, in Bethlehem. Our day ended with a meal in his family home. Funnily enough I believe every taxi driver now has a personal Banksy tale…
‘From London?, ahhhh Banksy is my friend’ ‘Banksy was in my taxi’ ‘I was with Banksy when he did this, at night’. They are receiving a more measurable benefit from the visitors to the Ghetto. Our driver (who incidentally, had also spent 3 days with Banksy  ) says that it’s not unusual to go 4 days without having a single person in his taxi. With the number of taxis waiting at the gate and the few people actually arriving through I am surprised it is not longer. I get the feeling (and also hope) that the ‘Banksy Taxi Tour’ will continue long after the show ends.
Everyone we met was genuinely warm and inviting and really interested in saying hello and having a brief chat. Haggling is an art I have never mastered however as the initial prices were always so ridiculously high it was an essential part of our experience. By the end of the process we were happy knowing that we were still being generous but supporting the local community and they are happy knowing that they’d done good business.
And of course the reason for the trip the Santas Ghetto show. How pleasant it was to walk around, enjoy the work and take some photos while being the only ones there. (Asides from the BBC film crew who were looking for an interview that is).
During our visit to the wall we watched Swoon paste up one of her new pieces. There’s a photo of it within the wall section on the Ghetto site. Not sure if it has been mentioned but inside each pocket was a famous quote / message of peace.
If anyone still planning the trip finds they have a night in Tel Aviv with nothing to do, we had a great time in a bar called Nanuchka. The bar/restaurant is in a converted old Georgian home. Great cocktails and the perfect place to get a real taste of how the locals like to party – dancing on the bar top included. This type of organised chaos would never be possible at any bar within the UK. (The food looked pretty special too).
Also – probably mentioned before - for a cheap fixed price way to travel long distance I can really recommend the Sheruts (shared taxis) as the way forward. Once you know the system (and it only takes one ride to be in the know) they run 24 hours, leave when they are full (I don’t think we waited longer than a couple of minutes for one to fill), direct to your destination and did I mention cheap!?.
So on my return I can’t pretend not to be a little disappointed that I’d missed the new Banksy release but hey, I will never forget how I felt as I crossed through into Palestine and walked down the security fencing nor the warmth of the people we met on both sides of the wall and I am not sure that POW could ever find a more fitting location for the Ghetto.
I am a bit out of touch with recent posts but I see a few people are still asking about whether there are any flag prints left. If you are still thinking about the trip this late in the month, just go! Print or no print you will not come home disappointed.
Got back last night and I’d like to say a quick thank you to all the members who had shared their tales and words of advice. I was fully prepared with the all ‘right’ answers on the way in and had decided that honesty was going to be the best approach on our return. We were lucky enough to have a relatively painless experience but that didn’t mean our nerves weren’t tested at every point! Keeping our answers brief definitely aided the process I think. Like those who had gone before, we had an incredible, humbling, eye opening and much recommended trip. We spent (an incredibly quick) 6 hours with our taxi driver, come tour guide, in Bethlehem. Our day ended with a meal in his family home. Funnily enough I believe every taxi driver now has a personal Banksy tale… ‘From London?, ahhhh Banksy is my friend’ ‘Banksy was in my taxi’ ‘I was with Banksy when he did this, at night’. They are receiving a more measurable benefit from the visitors to the Ghetto. Our driver (who incidentally, had also spent 3 days with Banksy ) says that it’s not unusual to go 4 days without having a single person in his taxi. With the number of taxis waiting at the gate and the few people actually arriving through I am surprised it is not longer. I get the feeling (and also hope) that the ‘Banksy Taxi Tour’ will continue long after the show ends. Everyone we met was genuinely warm and inviting and really interested in saying hello and having a brief chat. Haggling is an art I have never mastered however as the initial prices were always so ridiculously high it was an essential part of our experience. By the end of the process we were happy knowing that we were still being generous but supporting the local community and they are happy knowing that they’d done good business. And of course the reason for the trip the Santas Ghetto show. How pleasant it was to walk around, enjoy the work and take some photos while being the only ones there. (Asides from the BBC film crew who were looking for an interview that is). During our visit to the wall we watched Swoon paste up one of her new pieces. There’s a photo of it within the wall section on the Ghetto site. Not sure if it has been mentioned but inside each pocket was a famous quote / message of peace. If anyone still planning the trip finds they have a night in Tel Aviv with nothing to do, we had a great time in a bar called Nanuchka. The bar/restaurant is in a converted old Georgian home. Great cocktails and the perfect place to get a real taste of how the locals like to party – dancing on the bar top included. This type of organised chaos would never be possible at any bar within the UK. (The food looked pretty special too). Also – probably mentioned before - for a cheap fixed price way to travel long distance I can really recommend the Sheruts (shared taxis) as the way forward. Once you know the system (and it only takes one ride to be in the know) they run 24 hours, leave when they are full (I don’t think we waited longer than a couple of minutes for one to fill), direct to your destination and did I mention cheap!?. So on my return I can’t pretend not to be a little disappointed that I’d missed the new Banksy release but hey, I will never forget how I felt as I crossed through into Palestine and walked down the security fencing nor the warmth of the people we met on both sides of the wall and I am not sure that POW could ever find a more fitting location for the Ghetto. I am a bit out of touch with recent posts but I see a few people are still asking about whether there are any flag prints left. If you are still thinking about the trip this late in the month, just go! Print or no print you will not come home disappointed. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Rude Copper on Dec 19, 2007 16:43:09 GMT 1, to anyone who has been,
how big is the original of 'peace at last'?, (3D)
to anyone who has been,
how big is the original of 'peace at last'?, (3D)
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by stuey09 on Dec 19, 2007 17:45:16 GMT 1, Fantastic post Iside. Glad you had a great experience.
Fantastic post Iside. Glad you had a great experience.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by mammal2 on Dec 19, 2007 19:37:16 GMT 1, Ah, man! Everything I read about the trip sounds beautiful. I really hope they do someting like this again next year. Somewhere really out there. Fuck oxford street. Im thinking Dudley. Like the middle east but far worse!
Ah, man! Everything I read about the trip sounds beautiful. I really hope they do someting like this again next year. Somewhere really out there. Fuck oxford street. Im thinking Dudley. Like the middle east but far worse!
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by monstris on Dec 20, 2007 9:55:17 GMT 1, +1 Iside
+1 Iside
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by becksaboo on Dec 20, 2007 10:39:05 GMT 1, Kelsey's take on it is really interesting, nice to see more pics of the area as well as little nuggests of stories.
Kelsey's take on it is really interesting, nice to see more pics of the area as well as little nuggests of stories.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Vsix on Dec 20, 2007 11:59:35 GMT 1, This work by Ron English on the wall in Bethlehem is a total suprise, I was not expecting anything like this:
This work by Ron English on the wall in Bethlehem is a total suprise, I was not expecting anything like this: |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by monstris on Dec 20, 2007 13:29:55 GMT 1, This work by Ron English on the wall in Bethlehem is a total suprise, I was not expecting anything like this:
Great isn't it.
I caught him putting on the first layer here:
www.flickr.com/photos/22019101@N08/
Never imagined it would be so vast!
I do like the idea of candy-striping the wall and would love to see people doing the other (Israeli) side....
This work by Ron English on the wall in Bethlehem is a total suprise, I was not expecting anything like this: Great isn't it. I caught him putting on the first layer here: www.flickr.com/photos/22019101@N08/Never imagined it would be so vast! I do like the idea of candy-striping the wall and would love to see people doing the other (Israeli) side.... |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by eddiedangerous on Dec 20, 2007 16:24:10 GMT 1,
+1
I'm leaving tomorrow morn.
that haunted me. if anyone hasn't checked it out, i suggest you do now!
+1 I'm leaving tomorrow morn. that haunted me. if anyone hasn't checked it out, i suggest you do now! |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by monstris on Dec 21, 2007 14:16:56 GMT 1, There's a hidden Banksy behind a white shutter somewhere in Bethlehem. From what I've been told, it's a Toxic Mary.
Does anyone know when the final reckoning for the pieces/how much was made etc will be done?
There's a hidden Banksy behind a white shutter somewhere in Bethlehem. From what I've been told, it's a Toxic Mary.
Does anyone know when the final reckoning for the pieces/how much was made etc will be done?
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Francis on Dec 22, 2007 22:35:14 GMT 1, Anyone know what happens to the originals at the Ghetto that don't sell? Do they go to Laz?
Anyone know what happens to the originals at the Ghetto that don't sell? Do they go to Laz?
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by 'bric on Dec 24, 2007 0:25:00 GMT 1, Got back today & will write a report up later but all originals had a bid on when i left so....
Got back today & will write a report up later but all originals had a bid on when i left so....
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by eddiedangerous on Dec 24, 2007 3:39:43 GMT 1, just back
caught this kid sticking up lost stickers!
more to come
just back caught this kid sticking up lost stickers! more to come |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by eddiedangerous on Dec 24, 2007 4:06:18 GMT 1, 
the toxic mary ap clourways.
tasty!
the toxic mary ap clourways. tasty! |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by CHAMB on Dec 24, 2007 7:23:27 GMT 1, what are those colorways all about, were they available at the show?
what are those colorways all about, were they available at the show?
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by jellya on Dec 24, 2007 7:52:12 GMT 1, Artist proofs. Not for sale I believe.
Nice aren't they 
Artist proofs. Not for sale I believe. Nice aren't they |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Rude Copper on Dec 24, 2007 9:25:03 GMT 1, i think they were, i'll find out for sure, i'm sure the mary's were part of the auction, start price $5000, the smiley copper $10000,
now the doors are closed, did anyone bid on anything?
i think they were, i'll find out for sure, i'm sure the mary's were part of the auction, start price $5000, the smiley copper $10000,
now the doors are closed, did anyone bid on anything?
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by eddiedangerous on Dec 24, 2007 12:09:55 GMT 1, they were downstairs, not on display but for sale, one off ap colourways, and the bidding on these was very high!
see the rest of my ghetto photos here:
www.flickr.com/photos/eddiedangerous/
they were downstairs, not on display but for sale, one off ap colourways, and the bidding on these was very high! see the rest of my ghetto photos here: www.flickr.com/photos/eddiedangerous/ |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by wezzley on Dec 24, 2007 13:21:58 GMT 1, the TM's were from an edition of a whapping 40 something AP's....the smiley copper was from an edition of 8AP's...pink & gold TM was the tastiest....the pink copper was top notch too....the yellow in the hat looked almost hand sprayed..
the TM's were from an edition of a whapping 40 something AP's....the smiley copper was from an edition of 8AP's...pink & gold TM was the tastiest....the pink copper was top notch too....the yellow in the hat looked almost hand sprayed..
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Francis on Dec 25, 2007 3:41:57 GMT 1, Looks like Santas Ghetto has a closed sign on the front page, but you can still buy stuff:
www.santasghetto.com/shop.asp
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Oliver Garland on Dec 25, 2007 11:13:03 GMT 1, did room 4 ever show up?
did room 4 ever show up?
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by eddiedangerous on Dec 25, 2007 11:15:50 GMT 1, no. red herring.
no. red herring.
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) says that it’s not unusual to go 4 days without having a single person in his taxi. With the number of taxis waiting at the gate and the few people actually arriving through I am surprised it is not longer. I get the feeling (and also hope) that the ‘Banksy Taxi Tour’ will continue long after the show ends. 
