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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by mcnuts on Dec 17, 2007 22:03:45 GMT 1, LAZY HIPPY PRINTERS WILL BE ENJOYING LEISURE AND SOFT DRUGS OVER THE XMAS SEASON BONGO THINKS easily remedied by a message on the release page which says... note: these prints will not ship until the end of januarythey are doing something simiar with signed flags and the special trolley releases from the ghetto itself.
where did you see that?
LAZY HIPPY PRINTERS WILL BE ENJOYING LEISURE AND SOFT DRUGS OVER THE XMAS SEASON BONGO THINKS easily remedied by a message on the release page which says... note: these prints will not ship until the end of januarythey are doing something simiar with signed flags and the special trolley releases from the ghetto itself. where did you see that? |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by bill on Dec 17, 2007 22:16:01 GMT 1, NOTHING MORE TO SEE! SANTAS GHETTO IS NOW CLOSED
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by slacker on Dec 17, 2007 23:28:48 GMT 1, easily remedied by a message on the release page which says... note: these prints will not ship until the end of januarythey are doing something simiar with signed flags and the special trolley releases from the ghetto itself. where did you see that?
sorry mate, maybe should have made it clearer. i was just saying that i wouldn't rule out another banksy release by christmas on the grounds that they don't have enough time to send them out.
all they'd have to do is add a message like the one above and they could send them out at their leisure.
easily remedied by a message on the release page which says... note: these prints will not ship until the end of januarythey are doing something simiar with signed flags and the special trolley releases from the ghetto itself. where did you see that? sorry mate, maybe should have made it clearer. i was just saying that i wouldn't rule out another banksy release by christmas on the grounds that they don't have enough time to send them out. all they'd have to do is add a message like the one above and they could send them out at their leisure. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by funster on Dec 17, 2007 23:30:47 GMT 1, Is it over... fucking hope so and maybe, just maybe I'll get some work done.
Is it over... fucking hope so and maybe, just maybe I'll get some work done.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by slacker on Dec 17, 2007 23:47:51 GMT 1, Is it over... f**king hope so and maybe, just maybe I'll get some work done.
hehe - me too mate ;D
but all in all i'd rather buy art than work.
Is it over... f**king hope so and maybe, just maybe I'll get some work done. hehe - me too mate ;D but all in all i'd rather buy art than work. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Coach on Dec 18, 2007 0:10:07 GMT 1, i hope its not over. got me nowt so far 
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by braincuttermd on Dec 18, 2007 4:13:50 GMT 1, Maybe a Micallef on xmas eve?
I'm waiting for the Micallef myself. It's in the gallery, but stop and search is NOT in the gallery. Can't figure it out.
Maybe a Micallef on xmas eve? I'm waiting for the Micallef myself. It's in the gallery, but stop and search is NOT in the gallery. Can't figure it out. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by ctc2 on Dec 18, 2007 6:37:32 GMT 1, My guess (and it is only a guess), is that you will see a rather large unsigned edition of the print released today. Seems like a good way to raise some cash if the goal is to raise money for use there locally. For the effort, it would be a lot of return for just running the presses a little longer while they are at it anyway.
My guess (and it is only a guess), is that you will see a rather large unsigned edition of the print released today. Seems like a good way to raise some cash if the goal is to raise money for use there locally. For the effort, it would be a lot of return for just running the presses a little longer while they are at it anyway.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Filipino Box Spring Hog on Dec 18, 2007 6:40:28 GMT 1, only the money from the originals are going to the folks there .... the money from the prints goes into the pockets of POW -
only the money from the originals are going to the folks there .... the money from the prints goes into the pockets of POW -
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Gentle Mental on Dec 18, 2007 6:40:36 GMT 1, My guess (and it is only a guess), is that you will see a rather large unsigned edition of the print released today. Seems like a good way to raise some cash if the goal is to raise money for use there locally. For the effort, it would be a lot of return for just running the presses a little longer while they are at it anyway.
it's like printing money isn't? large 70 x 50cm ยฃ500 notes...
My guess (and it is only a guess), is that you will see a rather large unsigned edition of the print released today. Seems like a good way to raise some cash if the goal is to raise money for use there locally. For the effort, it would be a lot of return for just running the presses a little longer while they are at it anyway. it's like printing money isn't? large 70 x 50cm ยฃ500 notes... |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by verbalkint on Dec 18, 2007 6:46:47 GMT 1, My guess (and it is only a guess), is that you will see a rather large unsigned edition of the print released today. Seems like a good way to raise some cash if the goal is to raise money for use there locally. For the effort, it would be a lot of return for just running the presses a little longer while they are at it anyway. it's like printing money isn't? large 70 x 50cm ยฃ500 notes...
you are certainly not wrong
I was speaking to adam neate this year after his show and he made ยฃ760,000 in one night on prints, its mind-boggling. but fair play to neate, he has stopped doing them which is giving away a million quid a year for him
Banksy could do a million a month on prints if he wanted to. I think there will be more banksys at the ghetto and that will flood the market and make the prices crash a bit. not a bad thing if you have to go the ebay route
My guess (and it is only a guess), is that you will see a rather large unsigned edition of the print released today. Seems like a good way to raise some cash if the goal is to raise money for use there locally. For the effort, it would be a lot of return for just running the presses a little longer while they are at it anyway. it's like printing money isn't? large 70 x 50cm ยฃ500 notes... you are certainly not wrong I was speaking to adam neate this year after his show and he made ยฃ760,000 in one night on prints, its mind-boggling. but fair play to neate, he has stopped doing them which is giving away a million quid a year for him Banksy could do a million a month on prints if he wanted to. I think there will be more banksys at the ghetto and that will flood the market and make the prices crash a bit. not a bad thing if you have to go the ebay route |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by goatislander on Dec 19, 2007 21:59:21 GMT 1, going on two full days without a release. I hope they are gearing up for a grand finale.
going on two full days without a release. I hope they are gearing up for a grand finale.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Francis on Dec 19, 2007 22:09:16 GMT 1, Yeah...not releasing anything for the past couple days has really gotten me anxious to see what the next print will be.
Yeah...not releasing anything for the past couple days has really gotten me anxious to see what the next print will be.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Natas on Dec 19, 2007 22:15:07 GMT 1, What do you guys think of the new Gee Vaucher print that went up the SG pictures today? Hopefully this will be released.
What do you guys think of the new Gee Vaucher print that went up the SG pictures today? Hopefully this will be released.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by mike hunt on Dec 19, 2007 22:23:50 GMT 1, it's like printing money isn't? large 70 x 50cm ยฃ500 notes... you are certainly not wrong I was speaking to adam neate this year after his show and he made ยฃ760,000 in one night on prints, its mind-boggling. but fair play to neate, he has stopped doing them which is giving away a million quid a year for him Banksy could do a million a month on prints if he wanted to. I think there will be more banksys at the ghetto and that will flood the market and make the prices crash a bit. not a bad thing if you have to go the ebay route
Adam worked hard and long enough to deserve the cash. Its not an easy life, so when success does come (and it was a big surprise when it came that evening at elms) it is well deserved. Maybe Banksy will start releasing more stuff regularly like Obey? Maybe not though!
it's like printing money isn't? large 70 x 50cm ยฃ500 notes... you are certainly not wrong I was speaking to adam neate this year after his show and he made ยฃ760,000 in one night on prints, its mind-boggling. but fair play to neate, he has stopped doing them which is giving away a million quid a year for him Banksy could do a million a month on prints if he wanted to. I think there will be more banksys at the ghetto and that will flood the market and make the prices crash a bit. not a bad thing if you have to go the ebay route Adam worked hard and long enough to deserve the cash. Its not an easy life, so when success does come (and it was a big surprise when it came that evening at elms) it is well deserved. Maybe Banksy will start releasing more stuff regularly like Obey? Maybe not though! |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by bobbymeachamjr on Dec 19, 2007 22:38:43 GMT 1, only the money from the originals are going to the folks there .... the money from the prints goes into the pockets of POW -
is this true? I was thinking that all the prints were so grossly overpriced but since it was going to charity I was ok with it. If so, laaaaaammmmme.
only the money from the originals are going to the folks there .... the money from the prints goes into the pockets of POW - is this true? I was thinking that all the prints were so grossly overpriced but since it was going to charity I was ok with it. If so, laaaaaammmmme. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by goatislander on Dec 19, 2007 23:52:06 GMT 1, I am not sure if anyone on the board knows for sure, though there is certainly a lot of speculation. The SG site as everyone already knows reads:
"Every shekel made in the store will be used on local projects for children and young people. Not one cent will go to any political groups, governmental institutions or, in fact, any grown-ups at all"
I think that it is the part that says "Every shekel made in the store will" that leads one to believe that only stores sales will go to charity. But then again that could be questionable as well considering that I have read from individuals who went to SG and said that no money is actually exchanged in Bethlehem. It is all done with vouchers and auctions.
I would like to think that everything sold in the store and online will go to charity.
I am not sure if anyone on the board knows for sure, though there is certainly a lot of speculation. The SG site as everyone already knows reads:
"Every shekel made in the store will be used on local projects for children and young people. Not one cent will go to any political groups, governmental institutions or, in fact, any grown-ups at all"
I think that it is the part that says "Every shekel made in the store will" that leads one to believe that only stores sales will go to charity. But then again that could be questionable as well considering that I have read from individuals who went to SG and said that no money is actually exchanged in Bethlehem. It is all done with vouchers and auctions.
I would like to think that everything sold in the store and online will go to charity.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by bobbymeachamjr on Dec 20, 2007 4:13:44 GMT 1, At this point I'll just give the benefit of the doubt that every thing that sold at the site + online goes to charity.
If not, I would be extremely disappointed and disgusted...
At this point I'll just give the benefit of the doubt that every thing that sold at the site + online goes to charity.
If not, I would be extremely disappointed and disgusted...
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by darjeeling on Dec 20, 2007 4:50:00 GMT 1, The Ghetto isn't over - you can still visit!
But come on people, there's no more prints coming-I'd bet on that. Just be happy you had the opportunity t buy this stuff without having to queue up all night somewhere. Do you think POW really wants to be sorting out another 1 or 2 thousands prints on christmas eve? Why do you think they released them all so quick instead of dragging it out in typical POW style? Because everyone wants to go on vacataion and enjoy the new year. Please stop F5ing now and enjoy the holidays.
The Ghetto isn't over - you can still visit!
But come on people, there's no more prints coming-I'd bet on that. Just be happy you had the opportunity t buy this stuff without having to queue up all night somewhere. Do you think POW really wants to be sorting out another 1 or 2 thousands prints on christmas eve? Why do you think they released them all so quick instead of dragging it out in typical POW style? Because everyone wants to go on vacataion and enjoy the new year. Please stop F5ing now and enjoy the holidays.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by monstris on Dec 20, 2007 9:21:22 GMT 1, These are my guesses, and they are guesses! Banksy Festival and Sales end will be retained for the POW site for spring. If another banksy is released this week, it will probably be unsigned and in an edition of 1000+, perhaps the dove print! Another Insect on wednesday, hopefully 'Bloody Gabriel' and another Eric the Dog!
Dove is pretty iconic by now so I doubt it will make it into print form unless it's released as an A/P or put out ala Kate.
These are my guesses, and they are guesses! Banksy Festival and Sales end will be retained for the POW site for spring. If another banksy is released this week, it will probably be unsigned and in an edition of 1000+, perhaps the dove print! Another Insect on wednesday, hopefully 'Bloody Gabriel' and another Eric the Dog! Dove is pretty iconic by now so I doubt it will make it into print form unless it's released as an A/P or put out ala Kate. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by stuey09 on Dec 20, 2007 9:24:04 GMT 1, I tend to agree with Monstris. I can't see Dove making it out as a print and particularly can't see anymore unsigned Banksys coming out in a run of 1000.
I tend to agree with Monstris. I can't see Dove making it out as a print and particularly can't see anymore unsigned Banksys coming out in a run of 1000.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by monstris on Dec 20, 2007 9:45:06 GMT 1, I am not sure if anyone on the board knows for sure, though there is certainly a lot of speculation. The SG site as everyone already knows reads: "Every shekel made in the store will be used on local projects for children and young people. Not one cent will go to any political groups, governmental institutions or, in fact, any grown-ups at all" I think that it is the part that says "Every shekel made in the store will" that leads one to believe that only stores sales will go to charity. But then again that could be questionable as well considering that I have read from individuals who went to SG and said that no money is actually exchanged in Bethlehem. It is all done with vouchers and auctions. I would like to think that everything sold in the store and online will go to charity.
Unless your name is Souleiman Mansour...he'll be coming away with some cash...but he's a well-known Palestinian artist and bigger than Banksy in those parts -- he's not some obscure chappie lacking pedigree...'Jamal Al Mahamel' is a different version of a painting that's hanging in the private collection of someone very rich in an Arab oil state.
If you've bid on Sameer Maywi's 'Handala', it's worth pointing out that it's a carving of a Naji Al-Ali character that's become very very iconic in Palestine, especially since the assassination of its creator in London as the first intifada was starting. More about Naji Al-Ali here: www.handala.org/naji.html
Personally, I think it's fair for all the foreign artists to give all proceeds to charity but for the Palestinian ones to keep some moolah. We've effectively invaded their land with our art...here's hoping that we're not viewed as artistic imperialists because after the buzz of the Ghetto has gone it'll be the locals putting their pieces on the walls (if they can afford the art supplies). Most people who visited have never been to the West Bank -- Bethlehem is pretty damn affluent in Palestinian terms -- its even got its own heirarchy in terms of old families, new families. The Pals that really break your heart are the ones living in mud huts who have to work for 100shekel a week on 'organic' farms in the Jordan Valley.
I am not sure if anyone on the board knows for sure, though there is certainly a lot of speculation. The SG site as everyone already knows reads: "Every shekel made in the store will be used on local projects for children and young people. Not one cent will go to any political groups, governmental institutions or, in fact, any grown-ups at all" I think that it is the part that says "Every shekel made in the store will" that leads one to believe that only stores sales will go to charity. But then again that could be questionable as well considering that I have read from individuals who went to SG and said that no money is actually exchanged in Bethlehem. It is all done with vouchers and auctions. I would like to think that everything sold in the store and online will go to charity. Unless your name is Souleiman Mansour...he'll be coming away with some cash...but he's a well-known Palestinian artist and bigger than Banksy in those parts -- he's not some obscure chappie lacking pedigree...'Jamal Al Mahamel' is a different version of a painting that's hanging in the private collection of someone very rich in an Arab oil state. If you've bid on Sameer Maywi's 'Handala', it's worth pointing out that it's a carving of a Naji Al-Ali character that's become very very iconic in Palestine, especially since the assassination of its creator in London as the first intifada was starting. More about Naji Al-Ali here: www.handala.org/naji.htmlPersonally, I think it's fair for all the foreign artists to give all proceeds to charity but for the Palestinian ones to keep some moolah. We've effectively invaded their land with our art...here's hoping that we're not viewed as artistic imperialists because after the buzz of the Ghetto has gone it'll be the locals putting their pieces on the walls (if they can afford the art supplies). Most people who visited have never been to the West Bank -- Bethlehem is pretty damn affluent in Palestinian terms -- its even got its own heirarchy in terms of old families, new families. The Pals that really break your heart are the ones living in mud huts who have to work for 100shekel a week on 'organic' farms in the Jordan Valley. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by G-Man on Dec 20, 2007 10:46:04 GMT 1, Called dolly at POW and she said that there will not be another Banksy release before Xmas
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news peeps
Called dolly at POW and she said that there will not be another Banksy release before Xmas
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news peeps
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by melmoth on Dec 20, 2007 17:22:28 GMT 1, Called dolly at POW and she said that there will not be another Banksy release before Xmas Sorry to be the bearer of bad news peeps
Did she indicate whether there would be ANY more prints released before Chrimbo?
;D
Called dolly at POW and she said that there will not be another Banksy release before Xmas Sorry to be the bearer of bad news peeps Did she indicate whether there would be ANY more prints released before Chrimbo? ;D |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by melmoth on Dec 21, 2007 16:57:24 GMT 1, Does anyone know definitively whether or not all the Flag prints are sold out at the Ghetto? If not, and there are some actually unsold at the end of the Ghetto, what happens to those?
Does anyone know definitively whether or not all the Flag prints are sold out at the Ghetto? If not, and there are some actually unsold at the end of the Ghetto, what happens to those?
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by dave313perry on Dec 21, 2007 16:59:39 GMT 1, Does anyone know definitively whether or not all the Flag prints are sold out at the Ghetto? If not, and there are some actually unsold at the end of the Ghetto, what happens to those?
i read somewhere earlier that there were 13 left - be quick but it will be worth the visit!
Does anyone know definitively whether or not all the Flag prints are sold out at the Ghetto? If not, and there are some actually unsold at the end of the Ghetto, what happens to those? i read somewhere earlier that there were 13 left - be quick but it will be worth the visit! |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Natas on Dec 21, 2007 17:11:31 GMT 1, Are we done with?
Are we done with?
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by melmoth on Dec 21, 2007 18:14:33 GMT 1, Does anyone know definitively whether or not all the Flag prints are sold out at the Ghetto? If not, and there are some actually unsold at the end of the Ghetto, what happens to those? i read somewhere earlier that there were 13 left - be quick but it will be worth the visit!
Thanks for the info. I just can't get over there in time due to personal reasons back here. I would love to have gone though, and I'm full of admiration (though jealous too) of all those who have made the trip.
Does anyone know definitively whether or not all the Flag prints are sold out at the Ghetto? If not, and there are some actually unsold at the end of the Ghetto, what happens to those? i read somewhere earlier that there were 13 left - be quick but it will be worth the visit! Thanks for the info. I just can't get over there in time due to personal reasons back here. I would love to have gone though, and I'm full of admiration (though jealous too) of all those who have made the trip. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by foreman on Dec 21, 2007 18:58:52 GMT 1, just read this.. not everyone interprets the messages the same...
arts.guardian.co.uk/art/news/story/0,,2230868,00.html
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