I was considering buying a Banksy tesco can, but I decided I liked this one more ! More cheeky commentary on Warhol - and it's 10 cents on the dollar compared to the homage that Banksy did, just like the Reduced sticker indicates.

Out of curiosity tabtab, why are you selling your zedsy poison apple ?

Thanks to 11 for a smooth deal

A fair point well made. I meant 'Unoriginal' by Zedsy in relation to Warhol, and Banksy's work.

Warhol gave the Campbell's soup can his own spin, so did Banksy the Tesco can. I also think that Zedsy has the Campbell's can. Not an original idea though.

I'll admit being a little baffled by this.

Initially, my assumption was that you were disingenuous and trying to cloud the issue. So under normal circumstances, I'd have dismissed your reply and ignored it — for prioritisation reasons, keeping in mind how I wish to spend my key limited resource: the time I have left on earth.

However, re-reading your comments made me think they might be sincere. Either way, I'll address them as if they were. This post will be hard-hitting, but honestly expressed and without malice.

Although it may be futile, I wanted to respond because the situation also relates to a matter of broader relevance. It ties in with some of the major benefits of Art generally: Encouraging people to open their eyes, to examine things more carefully or differently, to question and reflect. I'm referring to real attempts at considering other perspectives, as opposed to knee-jerk, superficial or conditioned responses.

There often seems to be a failure by many art lovers to harness and actually apply the above benefits. Hence my long-winded endeavour which follows.

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Summary assessment (from one forum member to another) of your reply:

Your efforts were unsatisfactory because you didn't think through your arguments before pressing the Create Post button.

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Assessment in detail:

The citation of an impressive-sounding Latin phrase is noted, which will appease those demanding gods of pseudo-academia. I'm a fan of the language, despite having resented two years of forced studies at school. But it doesn't sound as if you've given this particular maxim proper consideration, let alone challenged it in your mind before quoting it.

The reasoning these words champion is thought-terminating. They serve to shut down potentially meaningful exchanges about art.

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Regarding the Warhol, Banksy and Rembrandt arguments mentioned, they are beside the point.

Nobody, for example, would ever claim Warhol invented the design of the Campbell's soup can. This is a case of you addressing issues that are both undisputed and separate to matters being discussed. Originality was demonstrated by Warhol 50+ years ago. Not in the soup can design but through the idea of turning clinical depictions of mundane commercial objects into fine art.

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Your example of the Daniel David Mitsubishi logo is helpful. Let's use it in conclusion. We just need to fabricate a different context to make a credible analogy with the recent output by Zedsy.

Imagine the following scenario:

1. An ecstasy-themed art sculpture is released by artist #1. Cute concept, with nostalgic club-subculture references, an amusing shift in scale and recontextualisation.

2. A slightly different ecstasy-themed art sculpture is later released by artist #2. This work is derivative of the first, but still fun. The main downside is the idea being less fresh because a similar concept was previously explored by artist #1. In this respect, the second release falls prey to the law of diminishing returns.

3. Next, is a Chinese water torture-style drip sequence of, say, 28 more ecstasy-themed art sculpture releases over the course of decades. Each is by a different artist. In aggregate, they offer ad nauseum takes on the same subject matter: an ecstasy pill featuring the Mitsubishi logo.

Again, to labour the point, 28 more of these things: One after another, after yet another, and so on — going beyond dull, beyond clichéd, beyond parody. Beyond excruciating. It's no longer just about ever-decreasing circles; it now epitomises extreme poverty of imagination. That isn't changed by the fact uninformed observers may be oblivious to some or most of the 30 separate sculpture variants produced.

4. Daniel David comes along as artist #31. He releases his sculpture version of an ecstasy pill with the Mitsubishi logo.

5. Somebody on an internet forum then states that the previously-released pill sculptures by all the other artists do not detract from David's own pill sculpture "as a piece of art".


Now, having witnessed this whole scenario, query if the art forum claim in point 5 has the potential to make you feel irritable or even exasperated.

"This post will be hard-hitting"

Respectfully Met, I think you are overestimating the impact your reply may have.  You are certainly entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine, however I think you are off base on most of what you write.  No matter, c'est la vie.  You are spending so much time reading into and ascribing motive and meaning to my comments.  I find that fascinating ! Thanks

Because it was a huge post that would take a long time to respond to and I don't want to spend that much additional time arguing about art on an internet forum. I find it very interesting that there are people who are bothered about what I like or don't like - my preference or disdain for a print doesn't affect anyone else's ability to enjoy it.  There is a lot of art hanging in museums I don't like, and a lot I do like. There is also lots of art that my wife doesnt like, that I like.  It isn't about which one of us is right, it is about what I like or what she likes. I don't argue with her about why she does or doesn't like something, what would be the point ?

How else would you define art?

Guys, this is not a Jackson Pollock Number 1A. It's a 50 quid print. Looking forward to the frame ups from the people that bought.

Hello.

Some of you will be aware that I became an artist last month.

I am pleased to announce my latest print is now available for sale. It's called I Move For No Man. Being a populist, the underlying concept was to create work in response to what is currently popular:


I Move For No Man, 2016
Signed and numbered giclée print on 75gsm paper
Limited edition of 90
Sheet dimensions: 297 x 210 mm
Price: £47.99


There are vast numbers of art lovers looking to decorate their walls with nice, fun images that also have historical appeal. This print ticks all of the boxes. It has several layers of meaning. On one hand, it's nice. On the other hand, it's fun. On a third hand, it's historical — it homages paintings from last century by a famous artist, Andy Warhol, who knew Michael Jackson. So the work has many levels and is very multifaceted.

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I'd like to thank all who have supported me so far. My collectors are great people. They are against discrimination, against any kind of discrimination when it comes to art. Enthusiastic, generous with their praise, undemanding. They know what they like and, more importantly, they like what they know.

Everybody wants to be comfortable. That's the truth. And what's more comfortable than the familiar? Say you were travelling for some ungodly reason to some weird place like Bolivia or Montenegro or Vietnam. Would you really be prepared to risk food poisoning by eating the "food" sold on the street? Or would you find the nearest golden arches, where you're sure about what you're gonna get, where they have proper seats, and where the toilets are checked and cleaned every 30 minutes? I know which option I'd choose. And it doesn't involve gambling with my own health. Art is the same.

In conclusion, art is for the whole world. It should not be elitist and require a school degree to understand, or deep thinking, or other forms of snobbery. Art needs to be democratic. I am 110% for democracy. Thank you.

First come, first served.

Forum members can send me a private message for my PayPal details.

How about my latest print then, it is a further deconstructed derivative of the original. Will be a limited edition of 1000 at £100 each. Price will go up every 10 mins until sold out. If it does sell out I will release the currently huge pile of AP's.

Right now Fanakapan is thinking "Why didn't I think of that?!?!?!"

have we hyped these up to the £1000 mark yet?

Give me a shout when they get above this and reach the top of the market, as thats when i usually buy in

Here is a peak of the COAs I saw on his IG