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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by sapi on Jun 23, 2020 4:53:53 GMT 1, thanks samo ! does anyone know if that was the final bid or the total (with the 30% "buyers premium") - 5000 EU or 6500 EU total? in either case, a good result (and long term. compared to his peers and in light of how limited his overall print release was, a bargain).
thanks samo ! does anyone know if that was the final bid or the total (with the 30% "buyers premium") - 5000 EU or 6500 EU total? in either case, a good result (and long term. compared to his peers and in light of how limited his overall print release was, a bargain). |
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by The Italian One on Jun 23, 2020 9:18:54 GMT 1, thanks samo ! does anyone know if that was the final bid or the total (with the 30% "buyers premium") - 5000 EU or 6500 EU total? in either case, a good result (and long term. compared to his peers and in light of how limited his overall print release was, a bargain).
6.5k is strong strong result but in line with others result (monkey 2k few days ago)
nice to see blu finally has the result he deserve
thanks samo ! does anyone know if that was the final bid or the total (with the 30% "buyers premium") - 5000 EU or 6500 EU total? in either case, a good result (and long term. compared to his peers and in light of how limited his overall print release was, a bargain). think it is plus BP 30% as mentioned in the bottom left of the page. correct me if i'm wrong. 6.5k is strong strong result but in line with others result (monkey 2k few days ago) nice to see blu finally has the result he deserve |
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by sakesake on Jun 25, 2020 16:03:03 GMT 1, Headquarters is 100% chandelier, Monkey is real sale.
Headquarters is 100% chandelier, Monkey is real sale.
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by The Italian One on Jun 25, 2020 16:05:17 GMT 1, Headquarters is 100% chandelier, Monkey is real sale.
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by samo on Jun 25, 2020 16:23:56 GMT 1, Headquarters is 100% chandelier, Monkey is real sale. what do you mean?
sakesake also told me that the result for the monkey is including all fees. So the Monkey sold for about €1500 / 1700USD which I think is a fair price.
Headquarters is 100% chandelier, Monkey is real sale. what do you mean?
sakesake also told me that the result for the monkey is including all fees. So the Monkey sold for about €1500 / 1700USD which I think is a fair price.
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by sapi on Jun 25, 2020 18:22:33 GMT 1, Headquarters is 100% chandelier, Monkey is real sale.
per the screencap, headquarters sold. so "100% chandelier" makes no sense to me. are you saying (1) headquarters did not sell; (2) headquarters sold at guarantee through the auction house; (3) it was chandelier below the final bid; or ...?
and what is your source?
Headquarters is 100% chandelier, Monkey is real sale. i understand chandelier bids in online auctions to be the auction house placing bids to get it to the point where the first actual bid will meet the reserve (and have seen this happen with artnet, for example). it relates to the starting bid being lower than the reserve to generate interest (which i question as a reasonable strategy these days) and can undermine confidence in the system (i'd prefer the first bid to be the reserve/minimum to sell). per the screencap, headquarters sold. so "100% chandelier" makes no sense to me. are you saying (1) headquarters did not sell; (2) headquarters sold at guarantee through the auction house; (3) it was chandelier below the final bid; or ...? and what is your source? |
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by sakesake on Jun 25, 2020 18:57:20 GMT 1, Headquarters is 100% chandelier, Monkey is real sale. i understand chandelier bids in online auctions to be the auction house placing bids to get it to the point where the first actual bid will meet the reserve (and have seen this happen with artnet, for example). it relates to the starting bid being lower than the reserve to generate interest (which i question as a reasonable strategy these days) and can undermine confidence in the system (i'd prefer the first bid to be the reserve/minimum to sell). per the screencap, headquarters sold. so "100% chandelier" makes no sense to me. are you saying (1) headquarters did not sell; (2) headquarters sold at guarantee through the auction house; (3) it was chandelier below the final bid; or ...? and what is your source?
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If they ever publish the results you'll see it's unsold.
Headquarters is 100% chandelier, Monkey is real sale. i understand chandelier bids in online auctions to be the auction house placing bids to get it to the point where the first actual bid will meet the reserve (and have seen this happen with artnet, for example). it relates to the starting bid being lower than the reserve to generate interest (which i question as a reasonable strategy these days) and can undermine confidence in the system (i'd prefer the first bid to be the reserve/minimum to sell). per the screencap, headquarters sold. so "100% chandelier" makes no sense to me. are you saying (1) headquarters did not sell; (2) headquarters sold at guarantee through the auction house; (3) it was chandelier below the final bid; or ...? and what is your source? (1) If they ever publish the results you'll see it's unsold. |
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by sapi on Jun 25, 2020 21:52:27 GMT 1, i understand chandelier bids in online auctions to be the auction house placing bids to get it to the point where the first actual bid will meet the reserve (and have seen this happen with artnet, for example). it relates to the starting bid being lower than the reserve to generate interest (which i question as a reasonable strategy these days) and can undermine confidence in the system (i'd prefer the first bid to be the reserve/minimum to sell). per the screencap, headquarters sold. so "100% chandelier" makes no sense to me. are you saying (1) headquarters did not sell; (2) headquarters sold at guarantee through the auction house; (3) it was chandelier below the final bid; or ...? and what is your source? (1) If they ever publish the results you'll see it's unsold.
if true, another strike against digard (who already seem problematic, including their failure to post results in a reasonable manner).
if anyone ever sees confirmation of this, please post.
i understand chandelier bids in online auctions to be the auction house placing bids to get it to the point where the first actual bid will meet the reserve (and have seen this happen with artnet, for example). it relates to the starting bid being lower than the reserve to generate interest (which i question as a reasonable strategy these days) and can undermine confidence in the system (i'd prefer the first bid to be the reserve/minimum to sell). per the screencap, headquarters sold. so "100% chandelier" makes no sense to me. are you saying (1) headquarters did not sell; (2) headquarters sold at guarantee through the auction house; (3) it was chandelier below the final bid; or ...? and what is your source? (1) If they ever publish the results you'll see it's unsold. thanks for the update / clarifying. if true, another strike against digard (who already seem problematic, including their failure to post results in a reasonable manner). if anyone ever sees confirmation of this, please post. |
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by The Italian One on Jun 26, 2020 7:19:18 GMT 1,
sakesake also told me that the result for the monkey is including all fees. So the Monkey sold for about €1500 / 1700USD which I think is a fair price.
sakesake also told me that the result for the monkey is including all fees. So the Monkey sold for about €1500 / 1700USD which I think is a fair price.
interesting ... thanks |
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by sakesake on Jun 26, 2020 16:46:16 GMT 1, I wouldn't put Digard under fire though, I think they are a legit auction house. In my opinion they accepted the consignment of Headquarters with an unrealistic reserve price. No one in their right mind would pay that for a work outside of the edition that has no hand finishing or extra details like the drawing in the shoulder as seen around here. As for the results, they seem to publish when they do a strong sale and decide not to publish when their sale is not so good. That's weird but I guess they are not obligated in any way to publish their results. My 2 cents.
I wouldn't put Digard under fire though, I think they are a legit auction house. In my opinion they accepted the consignment of Headquarters with an unrealistic reserve price. No one in their right mind would pay that for a work outside of the edition that has no hand finishing or extra details like the drawing in the shoulder as seen around here. As for the results, they seem to publish when they do a strong sale and decide not to publish when their sale is not so good. That's weird but I guess they are not obligated in any way to publish their results. My 2 cents.
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by sapi on Jun 26, 2020 18:47:19 GMT 1, I wouldn't put Digard under fire though, I think they are a legit auction house. In my opinion they accepted the consignment of Headquarters with an unrealistic reserve price. No one in their right mind would pay that for a work outside of the edition that has no hand finishing or extra details like the drawing in the shoulder as seen around here. As for the results, they seem to publish when they do a strong sale and decide not to publish when their sale is not so good. That's weird but I guess they are not obligated in any way to publish their results. My 2 cents.
(1) auction houses should not accept a consignment with an unrealistic reserve (or, if they do, they should own up when it doesn't sell and accept the lower sell through rate);
(2) auction houses should not show a work as "sold" that did not sell (this is just truth versus lies; marking something as "sold" that did not sell, when exposed as here, undermines confidence in the auction house);
(3) auction houses should post the results during the sale (top auction houses do this with their auctions that are not online only) or within a day after alongside the listing with all the info (rather than on a separate sheet with numbers requiring us to locate and cross check). it is fairly common to not publish results of online only auctions (e.g., Christies & Sothebys do this), but is a mistake and will change as online auctions become more of the norm.
I wouldn't put Digard under fire though, I think they are a legit auction house. In my opinion they accepted the consignment of Headquarters with an unrealistic reserve price. No one in their right mind would pay that for a work outside of the edition that has no hand finishing or extra details like the drawing in the shoulder as seen around here. As for the results, they seem to publish when they do a strong sale and decide not to publish when their sale is not so good. That's weird but I guess they are not obligated in any way to publish their results. My 2 cents. from my perspective that is a very low bar. my view is -- (1) auction houses should not accept a consignment with an unrealistic reserve (or, if they do, they should own up when it doesn't sell and accept the lower sell through rate); (2) auction houses should not show a work as "sold" that did not sell (this is just truth versus lies; marking something as "sold" that did not sell, when exposed as here, undermines confidence in the auction house); (3) auction houses should post the results during the sale (top auction houses do this with their auctions that are not online only) or within a day after alongside the listing with all the info (rather than on a separate sheet with numbers requiring us to locate and cross check). it is fairly common to not publish results of online only auctions (e.g., Christies & Sothebys do this), but is a mistake and will change as online auctions become more of the norm. |
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by samo on Jun 27, 2020 17:58:58 GMT 1, i understand chandelier bids in online auctions to be the auction house placing bids to get it to the point where the first actual bid will meet the reserve (and have seen this happen with artnet, for example). it relates to the starting bid being lower than the reserve to generate interest (which i question as a reasonable strategy these days) and can undermine confidence in the system (i'd prefer the first bid to be the reserve/minimum to sell). per the screencap, headquarters sold. so "100% chandelier" makes no sense to me. are you saying (1) headquarters did not sell; (2) headquarters sold at guarantee through the auction house; (3) it was chandelier below the final bid; or ...? and what is your source? (1) If they ever publish the results you'll see it's unsold.
Results have been posted and indeed as sakesake already said it looks like it went unsold. They have removed lot no. 61, fishy to say the least... Just goes to show that they are probably aware their estimate was to high.
i understand chandelier bids in online auctions to be the auction house placing bids to get it to the point where the first actual bid will meet the reserve (and have seen this happen with artnet, for example). it relates to the starting bid being lower than the reserve to generate interest (which i question as a reasonable strategy these days) and can undermine confidence in the system (i'd prefer the first bid to be the reserve/minimum to sell). per the screencap, headquarters sold. so "100% chandelier" makes no sense to me. are you saying (1) headquarters did not sell; (2) headquarters sold at guarantee through the auction house; (3) it was chandelier below the final bid; or ...? and what is your source? (1) If they ever publish the results you'll see it's unsold.
Results have been posted and indeed as sakesake already said it looks like it went unsold. They have removed lot no. 61, fishy to say the least... Just goes to show that they are probably aware their estimate was to high.
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by sapi on Jun 27, 2020 21:37:44 GMT 1, thanks for the update samo.
& yeah, their marking the item as "sold" was clearly bad (possibly bad faith).
good that they are posting the results quickly, and now alongside the listings (rather than their prior practice of creating a separate list / requiring unnecessary cross referencing).
auctions now, in the middle of a pandemic (or, maybe this is still the beginning), look like they draw out (1) desperate sellers & (2) do not have many prospective buyers (i've seen some iconic work by hot artists in other online auctions that did not sell or sold at the low bid). which is opportunity for buyers but not a reliable reference for establishing the market value of works.
thanks for the update samo. & yeah, their marking the item as "sold" was clearly bad (possibly bad faith). good that they are posting the results quickly, and now alongside the listings (rather than their prior practice of creating a separate list / requiring unnecessary cross referencing). auctions now, in the middle of a pandemic (or, maybe this is still the beginning), look like they draw out (1) desperate sellers & (2) do not have many prospective buyers (i've seen some iconic work by hot artists in other online auctions that did not sell or sold at the low bid). which is opportunity for buyers but not a reliable reference for establishing the market value of works. |
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by sfnyc on Jun 28, 2020 3:52:55 GMT 1, Shady but not surprising from a small Drouot auction house. Drouot is a multi room venue for mid- small auctioneers in Paris. There are some well known and respected auction houses working in there, but Digard in France is only considered like another whatever auction house. As they tried their hand in street art, their online reputation grew much bigger than their actual reputation in France.
So yes it's a legit auction house, but don't expect the expertise quality, collector reach and responsibility that what you see with bigger houses.
Whereas top mid tier houses in France like Tajan, Millon / Cornette de St Cyr are much more professional than Digard but imo they still lag behind in experience with the urban arts market/history to be better experts than those at Digard.
Shady but not surprising from a small Drouot auction house. Drouot is a multi room venue for mid- small auctioneers in Paris. There are some well known and respected auction houses working in there, but Digard in France is only considered like another whatever auction house. As they tried their hand in street art, their online reputation grew much bigger than their actual reputation in France.
So yes it's a legit auction house, but don't expect the expertise quality, collector reach and responsibility that what you see with bigger houses.
Whereas top mid tier houses in France like Tajan, Millon / Cornette de St Cyr are much more professional than Digard but imo they still lag behind in experience with the urban arts market/history to be better experts than those at Digard.
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by The Italian One on Jul 17, 2020 14:35:20 GMT 1, New great work by BLU
check out his website for more photos blublu.org
enjoy
New great work by BLU check out his website for more photos blublu.org enjoy |
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by The Italian One on Jul 17, 2020 14:37:02 GMT 1, you just beat me for 2 m 
you just beat me for 2 m |
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by Coach on Jul 17, 2020 14:40:06 GMT 1, you just beat me for 2 m
He’s the best!
you just beat me for 2 m He’s the best! |
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by The Italian One on Jul 17, 2020 14:53:33 GMT 1, you just beat me for 2 m He’s the best!
just can't stand his hate against collectors!
you just beat me for 2 m He’s the best! he is! definitely just can't stand his hate against collectors! |
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by Laugh Now 10 on Jul 17, 2020 15:11:16 GMT 1, Thanks for sharing this. I was watching “BANKSY and the Rise of Outlaw Art” the other night (it’s free on amazon prime if you happen to have that where you live) and when Eine or someone was talking about the POW days they showed some prints on the screen and one of them was BLU’s CMYK. That made me smile. It was great to see a BLU image pop up on the screen and now this! Such an epic wall!
Thanks for sharing this. I was watching “BANKSY and the Rise of Outlaw Art” the other night (it’s free on amazon prime if you happen to have that where you live) and when Eine or someone was talking about the POW days they showed some prints on the screen and one of them was BLU’s CMYK. That made me smile. It was great to see a BLU image pop up on the screen and now this! Such an epic wall!
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by Red Barron on Jul 17, 2020 15:21:23 GMT 1, This is brilliant!!! Blu really is the best and restores faith in the idea that there is more to street art than flipping tshirts.
This is brilliant!!! Blu really is the best and restores faith in the idea that there is more to street art than flipping tshirts.
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by pippyt75 on Jul 17, 2020 16:29:53 GMT 1, Absolutely amazing. Simply the best!
Absolutely amazing. Simply the best!
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 16:35:09 GMT 1, you just beat me for 2 m
So start your own and you might be more popular
More than likely Blu's billionaire father owns that wall
you just beat me for 2 m I started the first Banksy tube thread, but Carlcashman's gets the glory - it not about who posted first, it's who everyone goes to. So start your own and you might be more popular More than likely Blu's billionaire father owns that wall |
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by Skizz 82 on Jul 17, 2020 17:29:04 GMT 1, you just beat me for 2 m I started the first Banksy tube thread, but Carlcashman's gets the glory - it not about who posted first, it's who everyone goes to. So start your own and you might be more popular More than likely Blu's billionaire father owns that wall
you just beat me for 2 m I started the first Banksy tube thread, but Carlcashman's gets the glory - it not about who posted first, it's who everyone goes to. So start your own and you might be more popular More than likely Blu's billionaire father owns that wall never heard the story of Blu and his millionaire father .... hardly credible .... but maybe I'm wrong |
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by Skizz 82 on Jul 17, 2020 17:29:37 GMT 1, Maybe Wall...mart
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by Icesay on Jul 17, 2020 18:08:19 GMT 1, Just brilliant!
Just brilliant!
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by Fast Eddie on Jul 17, 2020 19:01:20 GMT 1, Where is this wall located?
Blu always on point.
Where is this wall located?
Blu always on point.
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Blu 🇮🇹 Bologna Street Art • Print Release • Art For Sale, by pellets on Jul 17, 2020 19:06:34 GMT 1, Isnt this just as *whispers* racist as calling it “kung flu” or “wuhan flu” or whatever it is that people dont like it being called?
Isnt this just as *whispers* racist as calling it “kung flu” or “wuhan flu” or whatever it is that people dont like it being called?
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