JJ
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Art Wanted, by JJ on Nov 16, 2019 6:21:38 GMT 1, I'm looking for this print from Judith Supine
"Untitled 1" 18 x 24" 5 Color Silkscreen Print Edition of 70 2007
Looking to pay cash for a print in pristine condition OR trade for this print
Ryan Travis Christian 9 Color Silkscreen Print Edition of 50 2017
Prefer a local transaction in NYC but will consider shipping.
I'm looking for this print from Judith Supine "Untitled 1" 18 x 24" 5 Color Silkscreen Print Edition of 70 2007 Looking to pay cash for a print in pristine condition OR trade for this print Ryan Travis Christian 9 Color Silkscreen Print Edition of 50 2017 Prefer a local transaction in NYC but will consider shipping.
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Quinnster
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Art Wanted, by Quinnster on Nov 16, 2019 16:59:26 GMT 1, LOOKING TO BUY CHRISTOPHER WOOL 'SPOKESMAN’ POSTER, MEASURES 39.5’X26’. PUBLISHED IN 1989 BY GALERIE MAX HEXLER. I BELIEVE THESE WERE PRODUCED TO PROMOTE BLACK BOOK RELEASE. ALSO THINK THESE WERE FOLDED. STILL ON THE LOOKOUT FOR CHRISTOPHER WOOL 'SPOKESMAN’ POSTER, MEASURES 39.5’X26’. PUBLISHED IN 1989 BY GALERIE MAX HEXLER. I BELIEVE THESE WERE PRODUCED TO PROMOTE BLACK BOOK RELEASE. ALSO THINK THESE WERE FOLDED.
No need to shout.
LOOKING TO BUY CHRISTOPHER WOOL 'SPOKESMAN’ POSTER, MEASURES 39.5’X26’. PUBLISHED IN 1989 BY GALERIE MAX HEXLER. I BELIEVE THESE WERE PRODUCED TO PROMOTE BLACK BOOK RELEASE. ALSO THINK THESE WERE FOLDED. STILL ON THE LOOKOUT FOR CHRISTOPHER WOOL 'SPOKESMAN’ POSTER, MEASURES 39.5’X26’. PUBLISHED IN 1989 BY GALERIE MAX HEXLER. I BELIEVE THESE WERE PRODUCED TO PROMOTE BLACK BOOK RELEASE. ALSO THINK THESE WERE FOLDED. No need to shout.
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Art Wanted, by Hanging Around on Nov 16, 2019 21:05:08 GMT 1, Looking to buy Bridget Riley prints... whatcha got?
Looking to buy Bridget Riley prints... whatcha got?
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icanmix
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Art Wanted, by icanmix on Nov 19, 2019 0:27:23 GMT 1, Hi everyone, Am looking for a CEPT print of "again & again" - I appreciate it was issued several years ago now, so would be grateful for any help! Many Thanks, Simon.
Hi everyone, Am looking for a CEPT print of "again & again" - I appreciate it was issued several years ago now, so would be grateful for any help! Many Thanks, Simon.
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banksyboy
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Art Wanted, by banksyboy on Nov 19, 2019 0:52:47 GMT 1, Hi everyone. After a few years collecting some WCP prints, I decided giving the brazilian chap a try. As the only unframed WCP print that I still have is a flower thrower, my comparison with be basically on it. Below goes the pics that I took for comparison. Please note that I have only purchased the ones listed as "deluxe editions". The seller has quick response and show to be very polite n educated, and sincere. He "strongly suggested" that I go for the one listed as "deluxe editions". He claimed that these listed as deluxe editions are even better than Pow editions one. My conclusion: Yes, superultrasniper (or as their instagram name Banksy deluxe editions) are really un-comparable. Print and colors seems much more vivid, alive, pretty. WCP printed area looks dead when compared. Also red color in flower thrower is a bit darker and more precise with the Pow real one. But for me the best thing was the paper on deluxe editions.... really splendid. WCP paper looks like a cheap cardboard when compared to the paper used in BDE. WCP has a small banksy stamp on lower right side but terrible quality, so I dont care that BDE dont have it. BDE is numbered in front in pencil with nice calligraphy and WCP is numbered on back (probably with a numbering machine). I always was (and still am) a fan of WCP prints but IMHO for sure BDE are much better overall, so I dont need to say that I am very happy. I also bought one Girl with balloon in gold color, and a Glitter Gorilla in silver color. I am completely in love with these 2 and I just made my second order this morning, so soon I will have more Glitter Gorillas colors to post if anyone want to me to post. The sparkles on glitter gorilla are very difficult to capture in pictures but in person are just amazing! You could swear it is an original print by banksy because of the overall quality. Best purchase of the year for me that cant afford a real one. Also it arrived very fast in Spain where I live and he accepted my offers. The sad thing is BDE have less images than WCP.... Well here goes the pictures I took
Hi everyone. After a few years collecting some WCP prints, I decided giving the brazilian chap a try. As the only unframed WCP print that I still have is a flower thrower, my comparison with be basically on it. Below goes the pics that I took for comparison. Please note that I have only purchased the ones listed as "deluxe editions". The seller has quick response and show to be very polite n educated, and sincere. He "strongly suggested" that I go for the one listed as "deluxe editions". He claimed that these listed as deluxe editions are even better than Pow editions one. My conclusion: Yes, superultrasniper (or as their instagram name Banksy deluxe editions) are really un-comparable. Print and colors seems much more vivid, alive, pretty. WCP printed area looks dead when compared. Also red color in flower thrower is a bit darker and more precise with the Pow real one. But for me the best thing was the paper on deluxe editions.... really splendid. WCP paper looks like a cheap cardboard when compared to the paper used in BDE. WCP has a small banksy stamp on lower right side but terrible quality, so I dont care that BDE dont have it. BDE is numbered in front in pencil with nice calligraphy and WCP is numbered on back (probably with a numbering machine). I always was (and still am) a fan of WCP prints but IMHO for sure BDE are much better overall, so I dont need to say that I am very happy. I also bought one Girl with balloon in gold color, and a Glitter Gorilla in silver color. I am completely in love with these 2 and I just made my second order this morning, so soon I will have more Glitter Gorillas colors to post if anyone want to me to post. The sparkles on glitter gorilla are very difficult to capture in pictures but in person are just amazing! You could swear it is an original print by banksy because of the overall quality. Best purchase of the year for me that cant afford a real one. Also it arrived very fast in Spain where I live and he accepted my offers. The sad thing is BDE have less images than WCP.... Well here goes the pictures I took
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banksyboy
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Art Wanted, by banksyboy on Nov 19, 2019 0:55:20 GMT 1,
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banksyboy
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Art Wanted, by banksyboy on Nov 19, 2019 0:58:26 GMT 1, Now here are my favorites ones, girl with the golden balloon and glitter gorilla:
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avec art
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Art Wanted, by avec art on Nov 19, 2019 1:12:44 GMT 1, It looks like you've never owned or even seen a Banksy print up close. You say you 'could swear its an original print by Banksy', well you probably could think so. But people who know about this stuff and collectors can spot they're fake a 1000 miles off based on what you call the 'quality' alone.
All of the detail is now merged together, whereas in the original prints, it shows as clusters of fine spray. Looking at the copy's of super ultra whatever they call themselves, you can see not only is the background horribly double printed, even the black of the main image is also double printed.
This is caused by the paper slipping between pulls and is not only ugly to look at, but demonstrates a lack of sound technique. Prints with errors as apparent as that would not leave POW printing studio and end up in the bin.
Super's black is darker though, which is something. Probably due to the Italian paper used as much as the ink. Still copying another persons work for financial gain should be deplored not encouraged.
It looks like you've never owned or even seen a Banksy print up close. You say you 'could swear its an original print by Banksy', well you probably could think so. But people who know about this stuff and collectors can spot they're fake a 1000 miles off based on what you call the 'quality' alone.
All of the detail is now merged together, whereas in the original prints, it shows as clusters of fine spray. Looking at the copy's of super ultra whatever they call themselves, you can see not only is the background horribly double printed, even the black of the main image is also double printed.
This is caused by the paper slipping between pulls and is not only ugly to look at, but demonstrates a lack of sound technique. Prints with errors as apparent as that would not leave POW printing studio and end up in the bin.
Super's black is darker though, which is something. Probably due to the Italian paper used as much as the ink. Still copying another persons work for financial gain should be deplored not encouraged.
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banksyboy
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Art Wanted, by banksyboy on Nov 19, 2019 1:19:44 GMT 1, When I say "I could swear this could be a real Pow Banksy print" I was saying about Glitter Gorilla, mate... As a Banksy expert as you seem to be glitter gorilla has never been released. So...... Also: all WCP prints are not high resolution not for lack of quality, and not for any of the things u said, but due to the simple fact that they DO NOT have the originals (as they claim to have) to use as clones. That is the only reason. And probably the same happens with BDE. And you as an original collector should thank this, so its easy to spot. Quality in this case doesnt mean necessarily a perfect clone, expert-boy..... This is meant to be what it is: a rereading of the work, smartboy.... this paper and the finishing in these prints yes can be considered even better then pow. period. "Still copying another persons work for financial gain should be deplored not encouraged" Bla bla bla bla this is not "another persons work" expert-boy, this is Banksy. You can care as much as you want, but he doesnt... lol. Accept one thing: Banksy does not care! He is the only one who can complain about this, expert... considering the history of the human race, it would be strange if it were any different as we all know that in every corner you will find counterfeit Banksy stuff... Jesus....! If it wasnt for WCP or BDE me and many others will never have the chance to have our favorite artist at our walls. And our favorite artist is meant to be for everyone. He is the artist that pretend to sell his own fakes in NYC, u forgot that? He is the one who said "the great artist steal", he is the one who committed countless crimes against the UK and the law. Thats why he is not an hypocrite like many in this forum. I am very happy with my order and of course a hatter has to appear to sow his bad vibes.... life always been like this and always will be..... If you dont like WCP cant understand why u loosing your time and focus in the WCP thread. People are strange!
When I say "I could swear this could be a real Pow Banksy print" I was saying about Glitter Gorilla, mate... As a Banksy expert as you seem to be glitter gorilla has never been released. So...... Also: all WCP prints are not high resolution not for lack of quality, and not for any of the things u said, but due to the simple fact that they DO NOT have the originals (as they claim to have) to use as clones. That is the only reason. And probably the same happens with BDE. And you as an original collector should thank this, so its easy to spot. Quality in this case doesnt mean necessarily a perfect clone, expert-boy..... This is meant to be what it is: a rereading of the work, smartboy.... this paper and the finishing in these prints yes can be considered even better then pow. period. "Still copying another persons work for financial gain should be deplored not encouraged" Bla bla bla bla this is not "another persons work" expert-boy, this is Banksy. You can care as much as you want, but he doesnt... lol. Accept one thing: Banksy does not care! He is the only one who can complain about this, expert... considering the history of the human race, it would be strange if it were any different as we all know that in every corner you will find counterfeit Banksy stuff... Jesus....! If it wasnt for WCP or BDE me and many others will never have the chance to have our favorite artist at our walls. And our favorite artist is meant to be for everyone. He is the artist that pretend to sell his own fakes in NYC, u forgot that? He is the one who said "the great artist steal", he is the one who committed countless crimes against the UK and the law. Thats why he is not an hypocrite like many in this forum. I am very happy with my order and of course a hatter has to appear to sow his bad vibes.... life always been like this and always will be..... If you dont like WCP cant understand why u loosing your time and focus in the WCP thread. People are strange!
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nex
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Art Wanted, by nex on Nov 19, 2019 1:57:42 GMT 1, Because this is a banksy forum not a rip off artist forum , but I understand I’ve lost that discussion given how many members buy into feeding this shite
Because this is a banksy forum not a rip off artist forum , but I understand I’ve lost that discussion given how many members buy into feeding this shite
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Jaylove
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Art Wanted, by Jaylove on Nov 19, 2019 2:09:37 GMT 1, How is WCP fying copper and flying chopper? Those are the only 2 I'd consider buying.
I've seen the real thing and wonder how off the WCP ones are.
How is WCP fying copper and flying chopper? Those are the only 2 I'd consider buying.
I've seen the real thing and wonder how off the WCP ones are.
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eye
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Art Wanted, by eye on Nov 19, 2019 3:48:11 GMT 1, Hi member, I am looking for KYNE girl canvas. Want to Reasonable price and large scale. Please PM. Thank you.
Hi member, I am looking for KYNE girl canvas. Want to Reasonable price and large scale. Please PM. Thank you.
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telecine
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Art Wanted, by telecine on Nov 19, 2019 5:56:19 GMT 1, It looks like you've never owned or even seen a Banksy print up close. You say you 'could swear its an original print by Banksy', well you probably could think so. But people who know about this stuff and collectors can spot they're fake a 1000 miles off based on what you call the 'quality' alone. All of the detail is now merged together, whereas in the original prints, it shows as clusters of fine spray. Looking at the copy's of super ultra whatever they call themselves, you can see not only is the background horribly double printed, even the black of the main image is also double printed. This is caused by the paper slipping between pulls and is not only ugly to look at, but demonstrates a lack of sound technique. Prints with errors as apparent as that would not leave POW printing studio and end up in the bin. Super's black is darker though, which is something. Probably due to the Italian paper used as much as the ink. Still copying another persons work for financial gain should be deplored not encouraged.
Spot on analysis ! Bad fakes .
It looks like you've never owned or even seen a Banksy print up close. You say you 'could swear its an original print by Banksy', well you probably could think so. But people who know about this stuff and collectors can spot they're fake a 1000 miles off based on what you call the 'quality' alone. All of the detail is now merged together, whereas in the original prints, it shows as clusters of fine spray. Looking at the copy's of super ultra whatever they call themselves, you can see not only is the background horribly double printed, even the black of the main image is also double printed. This is caused by the paper slipping between pulls and is not only ugly to look at, but demonstrates a lack of sound technique. Prints with errors as apparent as that would not leave POW printing studio and end up in the bin. Super's black is darker though, which is something. Probably due to the Italian paper used as much as the ink. Still copying another persons work for financial gain should be deplored not encouraged. Spot on analysis ! Bad fakes .
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banksyboy
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Art Wanted, by banksyboy on Nov 19, 2019 6:04:14 GMT 1, It looks like you've never owned or even seen a Banksy print up close. You say you 'could swear its an original print by Banksy', well you probably could think so. But people who know about this stuff and collectors can spot they're fake a 1000 miles off based on what you call the 'quality' alone. All of the detail is now merged together, whereas in the original prints, it shows as clusters of fine spray. Looking at the copy's of super ultra whatever they call themselves, you can see not only is the background horribly double printed, even the black of the main image is also double printed. This is caused by the paper slipping between pulls and is not only ugly to look at, but demonstrates a lack of sound technique. Prints with errors as apparent as that would not leave POW printing studio and end up in the bin. Super's black is darker though, which is something. Probably due to the Italian paper used as much as the ink. Still copying another persons work for financial gain should be deplored not encouraged. Spot on analysis ! Bad fakes . This is meant to be what it is: a rereading of the work not a clone. And in that regard it's superb whether you like it or not. Have u ever seen original Banksy paper? Its ridiculous
Read more: urbanartassociation.com/thread/140091/wcp-west-country-prince?page=38#ixzz65hGHrR7o
It looks like you've never owned or even seen a Banksy print up close. You say you 'could swear its an original print by Banksy', well you probably could think so. But people who know about this stuff and collectors can spot they're fake a 1000 miles off based on what you call the 'quality' alone. All of the detail is now merged together, whereas in the original prints, it shows as clusters of fine spray. Looking at the copy's of super ultra whatever they call themselves, you can see not only is the background horribly double printed, even the black of the main image is also double printed. This is caused by the paper slipping between pulls and is not only ugly to look at, but demonstrates a lack of sound technique. Prints with errors as apparent as that would not leave POW printing studio and end up in the bin. Super's black is darker though, which is something. Probably due to the Italian paper used as much as the ink. Still copying another persons work for financial gain should be deplored not encouraged. Spot on analysis ! Bad fakes . This is meant to be what it is: a rereading of the work not a clone. And in that regard it's superb whether you like it or not. Have u ever seen original Banksy paper? Its ridiculous Read more: urbanartassociation.com/thread/140091/wcp-west-country-prince?page=38#ixzz65hGHrR7o
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denzil
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Art Wanted, by denzil on Nov 19, 2019 9:27:05 GMT 1, When I say "I could swear this could be a real Pow Banksy print" I was saying about Glitter Gorilla, mate... As a Banksy expert as you seem to be glitter gorilla has never been released. So...... Also: all WCP prints are not high resolution not for lack of quality, and not for any of the things u said, but due to the simple fact that they DO NOT have the originals (as they claim to have) to use as clones. That is the only reason. And probably the same happens with BDE. And you as an original collector should thank this, so its easy to spot. Quality in this case doesnt mean necessarily a perfect clone, expert-boy..... This is meant to be what it is: a rereading of the work, smartboy.... this paper and the finishing in these prints yes can be considered even better then pow. period. "Still copying another persons work for financial gain should be deplored not encouraged" Bla bla bla bla this is not "another persons work" expert-boy, this is Banksy. You can care as much as you want, but he doesnt... lol. Accept one thing: Banksy does not care! He is the only one who can complain about this, expert... considering the history of the human race, it would be strange if it were any different as we all know that in every corner you will find counterfeit Banksy stuff... Jesus....! If it wasnt for WCP or BDE me and many others will never have the chance to have our favorite artist at our walls. And our favorite artist is meant to be for everyone. He is the artist that pretend to sell his own fakes in NYC, u forgot that? He is the one who said "the great artist steal", he is the one who committed countless crimes against the UK and the law. Thats why he is not an hypocrite like many in this forum. I am very happy with my order and of course a hatter has to appear to sow his bad vibes.... life always been like this and always will be..... If you dont like WCP cant understand why u loosing your time and focus in the WCP thread. People are strange! Hi banksyboy your right Banksy said "the great artist steal" He actually nicked it from Pablo Picasso who himself probably got it from someone else, And your right about the self appointed "I own a Banksy Print Cult" fucking bunch of deluded c**t Good Work with NOLA girl well done pal
Read more: urbanartassociation.com/thread/140091/wcp-west-country-prince?page=38#ixzz65i01nO9L
When I say "I could swear this could be a real Pow Banksy print" I was saying about Glitter Gorilla, mate... As a Banksy expert as you seem to be glitter gorilla has never been released. So...... Also: all WCP prints are not high resolution not for lack of quality, and not for any of the things u said, but due to the simple fact that they DO NOT have the originals (as they claim to have) to use as clones. That is the only reason. And probably the same happens with BDE. And you as an original collector should thank this, so its easy to spot. Quality in this case doesnt mean necessarily a perfect clone, expert-boy..... This is meant to be what it is: a rereading of the work, smartboy.... this paper and the finishing in these prints yes can be considered even better then pow. period. "Still copying another persons work for financial gain should be deplored not encouraged" Bla bla bla bla this is not "another persons work" expert-boy, this is Banksy. You can care as much as you want, but he doesnt... lol. Accept one thing: Banksy does not care! He is the only one who can complain about this, expert... considering the history of the human race, it would be strange if it were any different as we all know that in every corner you will find counterfeit Banksy stuff... Jesus....! If it wasnt for WCP or BDE me and many others will never have the chance to have our favorite artist at our walls. And our favorite artist is meant to be for everyone. He is the artist that pretend to sell his own fakes in NYC, u forgot that? He is the one who said "the great artist steal", he is the one who committed countless crimes against the UK and the law. Thats why he is not an hypocrite like many in this forum. I am very happy with my order and of course a hatter has to appear to sow his bad vibes.... life always been like this and always will be..... If you dont like WCP cant understand why u loosing your time and focus in the WCP thread. People are strange! Hi banksyboy your right Banksy said "the great artist steal" He actually nicked it from Pablo Picasso who himself probably got it from someone else, And your right about the self appointed "I own a Banksy Print Cult" fucking bunch of deluded c**t Good Work with NOLA girl well done pal Read more: urbanartassociation.com/thread/140091/wcp-west-country-prince?page=38#ixzz65i01nO9L
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Rubberneck
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Art Wanted, by Rubberneck on Nov 19, 2019 10:01:30 GMT 1, It would be good to see these two next to an original so we can compare all 3. I personally don’t care that people buy copies or a ‘reworking’ for their walls... I do care if they then try to pass them off as the original prints.
It’s good to post the comparisons of the different fakes out there. I’d hope that a buyer would find this thread so they can inform themselves if they’ve got any doubts about a print.
It would be good to see these two next to an original so we can compare all 3. I personally don’t care that people buy copies or a ‘reworking’ for their walls... I do care if they then try to pass them off as the original prints. It’s good to post the comparisons of the different fakes out there. I’d hope that a buyer would find this thread so they can inform themselves if they’ve got any doubts about a print.
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avec art
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Art Wanted, by avec art on Nov 19, 2019 10:43:24 GMT 1, they often do end up getting passed on as fakes.
also it's not about being part of a cult. I think it's theft when someone copies another persons work to profit from it. This applies to whoever they're ripping off. In fact it's often even more damaging and unfair when the original artist is less well known or not successful.
This is different to the tongue and cheek Banksy quote where he says great artists steal. Actually I believe he's referring to inspiration and concepts which is arguably something different to re producing a copy of another persons hard work for personal gain.
they often do end up getting passed on as fakes.
also it's not about being part of a cult. I think it's theft when someone copies another persons work to profit from it. This applies to whoever they're ripping off. In fact it's often even more damaging and unfair when the original artist is less well known or not successful.
This is different to the tongue and cheek Banksy quote where he says great artists steal. Actually I believe he's referring to inspiration and concepts which is arguably something different to re producing a copy of another persons hard work for personal gain.
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denzil
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Art Wanted, by denzil on Nov 19, 2019 10:53:53 GMT 1, they often do end up getting passed on as fakes. also it's not about being part of a cult. I think it's theft when someone copies another persons work to profit from it. This applies to whoever they're ripping off. In fact it's often even more damaging and unfair when the original artist is less well known or not successful. This is different to the tongue and cheek Banksy quote where he says great artists steal. Actually I believe he's referring to inspiration and concepts which is arguably something different to re producing a copy of another persons hard work for personal gain. Obviously clueless about Banksy and probably know as much about Art as,James Stunt
they often do end up getting passed on as fakes. also it's not about being part of a cult. I think it's theft when someone copies another persons work to profit from it. This applies to whoever they're ripping off. In fact it's often even more damaging and unfair when the original artist is less well known or not successful. This is different to the tongue and cheek Banksy quote where he says great artists steal. Actually I believe he's referring to inspiration and concepts which is arguably something different to re producing a copy of another persons hard work for personal gain. Obviously clueless about Banksy and probably know as much about Art as,James Stunt
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denzil
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Art Wanted, by denzil on Nov 19, 2019 11:05:37 GMT 1, they often do end up getting passed on as fakes. also it's not about being part of a cult. I think it's theft when someone copies another persons work to profit from it. This applies to whoever they're ripping off. In fact it's often even more damaging and unfair when the original artist is less well known or not successful. This is different to the tongue and cheek Banksy quote where he says great artists steal. Actually I believe he's referring to inspiration and concepts which is arguably something different to re producing a copy of another persons hard work for personal gain. Obviously clueless about Banksy and probably know as much about Art as,James Stunt Apologises for sounding like a complete Wanker this morning please ignore me ,Woke up today feeling very Ratty for some reason
they often do end up getting passed on as fakes. also it's not about being part of a cult. I think it's theft when someone copies another persons work to profit from it. This applies to whoever they're ripping off. In fact it's often even more damaging and unfair when the original artist is less well known or not successful. This is different to the tongue and cheek Banksy quote where he says great artists steal. Actually I believe he's referring to inspiration and concepts which is arguably something different to re producing a copy of another persons hard work for personal gain. Obviously clueless about Banksy and probably know as much about Art as,James Stunt Apologises for sounding like a complete Wanker this morning please ignore me ,Woke up today feeling very Ratty for some reason
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banksyboy
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Art Wanted, by banksyboy on Nov 19, 2019 15:49:04 GMT 1, they often do end up getting passed on as fakes. also it's not about being part of a cult. I think it's theft when someone copies another persons work to profit from it. This applies to whoever they're ripping off. In fact it's often even more damaging and unfair when the original artist is less well known or not successful. This is different to the tongue and cheek Banksy quote where he says great artists steal. Actually I believe he's referring to inspiration and concepts which is arguably something different to re producing a copy of another persons hard work for personal gain. Hey expert, nice to see you here at the WCP thread again. If a forger tries to pass any of this as an original for thousands of pounds, with so many differences in printing as you stated, with different paper, with a copy stamp on back and without a pest control document, then we have 3 brilliant minds together: The forger, the buyer.... and you
they often do end up getting passed on as fakes. also it's not about being part of a cult. I think it's theft when someone copies another persons work to profit from it. This applies to whoever they're ripping off. In fact it's often even more damaging and unfair when the original artist is less well known or not successful. This is different to the tongue and cheek Banksy quote where he says great artists steal. Actually I believe he's referring to inspiration and concepts which is arguably something different to re producing a copy of another persons hard work for personal gain. Hey expert, nice to see you here at the WCP thread again. If a forger tries to pass any of this as an original for thousands of pounds, with so many differences in printing as you stated, with different paper, with a copy stamp on back and without a pest control document, then we have 3 brilliant minds together: The forger, the buyer.... and you
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telecine
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Art Wanted, by telecine on Nov 19, 2019 15:57:00 GMT 1, they often do end up getting passed on as fakes. also it's not about being part of a cult. I think it's theft when someone copies another persons work to profit from it. This applies to whoever they're ripping off. In fact it's often even more damaging and unfair when the original artist is less well known or not successful. This is different to the tongue and cheek Banksy quote where he says great artists steal. Actually I believe he's referring to inspiration and concepts which is arguably something different to re producing a copy of another persons hard work for personal gain. Hey expert, nice to see you here at the WCP thread again. If a forger tries to pass any of this as an original for thousands of pounds, with so many differences in printing as you stated, with different paper, with a copy stamp on back and without a pest control document, then we have 3 brilliant minds together: The forger, the buyer.... and you
Artcave is right. These copies do get passed off as genuine with increasing regularity . Most people don’t know all the facts and trust what some of the more dodgy auction houses say .... You can be as snarky as you like, but it’s a fact.
they often do end up getting passed on as fakes. also it's not about being part of a cult. I think it's theft when someone copies another persons work to profit from it. This applies to whoever they're ripping off. In fact it's often even more damaging and unfair when the original artist is less well known or not successful. This is different to the tongue and cheek Banksy quote where he says great artists steal. Actually I believe he's referring to inspiration and concepts which is arguably something different to re producing a copy of another persons hard work for personal gain. Hey expert, nice to see you here at the WCP thread again. If a forger tries to pass any of this as an original for thousands of pounds, with so many differences in printing as you stated, with different paper, with a copy stamp on back and without a pest control document, then we have 3 brilliant minds together: The forger, the buyer.... and you Artcave is right. These copies do get passed off as genuine with increasing regularity . Most people don’t know all the facts and trust what some of the more dodgy auction houses say .... You can be as snarky as you like, but it’s a fact.
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shinkaiser
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Art Wanted, by shinkaiser on Nov 19, 2019 16:51:37 GMT 1, I recently bought a SuperUltraSniper version of NOLA. Haven't had the time to check the quality yet but glad to hear they're better than WCP who I was also considering to buy a print from.
I am a genuine collector and we all know Banksy prints are now near impossible to get at an acceptable price. Even with all the GDP fiasco. I was disheartened to hear that a galleries and rich art collectors managed to secure some GDP prints. Until Banksy and crew do a better job at weeding out the flippers and super rich collectors, SuperUltraSniper and WCP will do me fine. There's clearly a market for it.
I recently bought a SuperUltraSniper version of NOLA. Haven't had the time to check the quality yet but glad to hear they're better than WCP who I was also considering to buy a print from.
I am a genuine collector and we all know Banksy prints are now near impossible to get at an acceptable price. Even with all the GDP fiasco. I was disheartened to hear that a galleries and rich art collectors managed to secure some GDP prints. Until Banksy and crew do a better job at weeding out the flippers and super rich collectors, SuperUltraSniper and WCP will do me fine. There's clearly a market for it.
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denzil
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Art Wanted, by denzil on Nov 19, 2019 17:47:16 GMT 1, I recently bought a SuperUltraSniper version of NOLA. Haven't had the time to check the quality yet but glad to hear they're better than WCP who I was also considering to buy a print from. I am a genuine collector and we all know Banksy prints are now near impossible to get at an acceptable price. Even with all the GDP fiasco. I was disheartened to hear that a galleries and rich art collectors managed to secure some GDP prints. Until Banksy and crew do a better job at weeding out the flippers and super rich collectors, SuperUltraSniper and WCP will do me fine. There's clearly a market for it. I Bet there are hundreds of Print owners that have replaced the original on the wall with a WCP or SUS copys, Due to the high value making it irrational to risk slapping it up on the wall of the front room
I recently bought a SuperUltraSniper version of NOLA. Haven't had the time to check the quality yet but glad to hear they're better than WCP who I was also considering to buy a print from. I am a genuine collector and we all know Banksy prints are now near impossible to get at an acceptable price. Even with all the GDP fiasco. I was disheartened to hear that a galleries and rich art collectors managed to secure some GDP prints. Until Banksy and crew do a better job at weeding out the flippers and super rich collectors, SuperUltraSniper and WCP will do me fine. There's clearly a market for it. I Bet there are hundreds of Print owners that have replaced the original on the wall with a WCP or SUS copys, Due to the high value making it irrational to risk slapping it up on the wall of the front room
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avec art
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Art Wanted, by avec art on Nov 19, 2019 19:36:35 GMT 1, Why is the sniper shill calling me an expert. I don't think I ever claimed to be en expert on Banksy ever and I most definitely am not. But I can tell a poorly rendered copy when I see one. I also don't know who James Stunt is, and the joke might well be on me as a result.
I was thinking some valid points may have been raised, surrounding the copying question for example. We've seen times where the influence for some of the Banksy prints are rather close to the bone. So it might be argued what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
But troll language makes useful discourse far more difficult. I'm not here to take a position or to evangelise any particular artist. Those types might exist but it's not me.
I'm happy to call out WCP copies as looking a bit rubbish because to my eyes they fall way short. Being a printmaker myself, I believe I could do a much better job of it if I wanted to. Would I ... no I wouldn't.
Why is the sniper shill calling me an expert. I don't think I ever claimed to be en expert on Banksy ever and I most definitely am not. But I can tell a poorly rendered copy when I see one. I also don't know who James Stunt is, and the joke might well be on me as a result.
I was thinking some valid points may have been raised, surrounding the copying question for example. We've seen times where the influence for some of the Banksy prints are rather close to the bone. So it might be argued what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
But troll language makes useful discourse far more difficult. I'm not here to take a position or to evangelise any particular artist. Those types might exist but it's not me.
I'm happy to call out WCP copies as looking a bit rubbish because to my eyes they fall way short. Being a printmaker myself, I believe I could do a much better job of it if I wanted to. Would I ... no I wouldn't.
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Art Wanted, by Daniel Silk on Nov 19, 2019 20:41:52 GMT 1, Do people really think the original early Banksy prints were good quality? I mean I’m no expert on printing techniques, but the quality always appeared pretty low. I would think even Ben himself would probably admit he was on a learning curve at POW with the printing, and things got better over the years as he experimented and gained more skills. Sorry, I just think it’s not realistic to hold up the vast majority of Banksy prints as a shining example of quality artistic printing.
Do people really think the original early Banksy prints were good quality? I mean I’m no expert on printing techniques, but the quality always appeared pretty low. I would think even Ben himself would probably admit he was on a learning curve at POW with the printing, and things got better over the years as he experimented and gained more skills. Sorry, I just think it’s not realistic to hold up the vast majority of Banksy prints as a shining example of quality artistic printing.
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mojo
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Art Wanted, by mojo on Nov 19, 2019 21:23:03 GMT 1, Do people really think the original early Banksy prints were good quality? I mean I’m no expert on printing techniques, but the quality always appeared pretty low. I would think even Ben himself would probably admit he was on a learning curve at POW with the printing, and things got better over the years as he experimented and gained more skills. Sorry, I just think it’s not realistic to hold up the vast majority of Banksy prints as a shining example of quality artistic printing. I think you've massively missed the point.
Do people really think the original early Banksy prints were good quality? I mean I’m no expert on printing techniques, but the quality always appeared pretty low. I would think even Ben himself would probably admit he was on a learning curve at POW with the printing, and things got better over the years as he experimented and gained more skills. Sorry, I just think it’s not realistic to hold up the vast majority of Banksy prints as a shining example of quality artistic printing. I think you've massively missed the point.
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pellets
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Art Wanted, by pellets on Nov 19, 2019 21:36:31 GMT 1, People on GDP thread frequently say Banksy is a brand now.
When people go on holiday to, say, Thailand (other asian countries are available) they often buy fake goods, e.g. a t-shirt emblazoned with ‘Supreme’.
So isnt buying a fake Banksy just the same as buying a fake item on holiday. All of your mates know you can afford the real item and the people who can afford the real ones are rich enough to not care that you bought a fake.
Its obviously bad that people are being tricked into buying these fakes but when spending that kind of money surely one has to conduct some due diligence #CaveatEmptor
People on GDP thread frequently say Banksy is a brand now.
When people go on holiday to, say, Thailand (other asian countries are available) they often buy fake goods, e.g. a t-shirt emblazoned with ‘Supreme’.
So isnt buying a fake Banksy just the same as buying a fake item on holiday. All of your mates know you can afford the real item and the people who can afford the real ones are rich enough to not care that you bought a fake.
Its obviously bad that people are being tricked into buying these fakes but when spending that kind of money surely one has to conduct some due diligence #CaveatEmptor
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pellets
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Art Wanted, by pellets on Nov 19, 2019 21:37:47 GMT 1, And also, be nicer to Art Cave, (s)he’s just trying to be helpful.
And also, be nicer to Art Cave, (s)he’s just trying to be helpful.
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