sgolby
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Art Wanted, by sgolby on Jan 30, 2015 22:07:28 GMT 1, Is this person the canal street of the Banksy world? He's at least honest about it... So is the dude who sells bootleg DVD's at my train station... All that said, if he posts here he should state in the thread "BOOTLEG ...... Available now"
Is this person the canal street of the Banksy world? He's at least honest about it... So is the dude who sells bootleg DVD's at my train station... All that said, if he posts here he should state in the thread "BOOTLEG ...... Available now"
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Acme Thunderer
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Art Wanted, by Acme Thunderer on Jan 30, 2015 22:34:08 GMT 1, Thought these were supposed to be limited to 50 prints - got to be a lot more done of the Happy Choppers plus some of the others.
Thought these were supposed to be limited to 50 prints - got to be a lot more done of the Happy Choppers plus some of the others.
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WOOF
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Art Wanted, by WOOF on Jan 30, 2015 22:36:32 GMT 1, He's at least honest about it... So is the dude who sells bootleg DVD's at my train station... All that said, if he posts here he should state in the thread "BOOTLEG ...... Available now" Not really. The guy who sells bootleg DVD's doesn't say, hey man, these are definitely bootleg. WCP is very clear on every single auction they have:
"They are stamped on the reverse - COPY - to prevent being sold on the market as originals, as the originals can sell for up to ยฃ2000. These come with our own numbering system and stamp.THESE ARE NOT SOLD AS ORIGINALS. These are not sold with a frame."
You can dislike the practice all you want, but the person is very up front about it and as far as I can tell, does not conduct any business on this forum, only posts updates when prints are on the 'bay.
He's at least honest about it... So is the dude who sells bootleg DVD's at my train station... All that said, if he posts here he should state in the thread "BOOTLEG ...... Available now" Not really. The guy who sells bootleg DVD's doesn't say, hey man, these are definitely bootleg. WCP is very clear on every single auction they have: "They are stamped on the reverse - COPY - to prevent being sold on the market as originals, as the originals can sell for up to ยฃ2000. These come with our own numbering system and stamp.THESE ARE NOT SOLD AS ORIGINALS. These are not sold with a frame." You can dislike the practice all you want, but the person is very up front about it and as far as I can tell, does not conduct any business on this forum, only posts updates when prints are on the 'bay.
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Nick
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Art Wanted, by Nick on Jan 30, 2015 23:30:51 GMT 1, Stamp should be on the front though.. Yes it would detract from the image, but i'm sure someone with very little expertise in the art game who fancies a Banksy could be duped into buying a WCP framed piece. Not quite sure how you can stick up for him
Stamp should be on the front though.. Yes it would detract from the image, but i'm sure someone with very little expertise in the art game who fancies a Banksy could be duped into buying a WCP framed piece. Not quite sure how you can stick up for him
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Art Wanted, by wishingiwaslucky on Jan 30, 2015 23:34:25 GMT 1, Stamp should be on the front though.. Yes it would detract from the image, but i'm sure someone with very little expertise in the art game who fancies a Banksy could be duped into buying a WCP framed piece. Not quite sure how you can stick up for him The numbering and stamping is WCP, so must be a right novice to not even know the basics like print release, by whom etc. Personally I don't like copies, but if they are to be done, and they will/are prefer it's done this way and not trying to dupe anyone.
Stamp should be on the front though.. Yes it would detract from the image, but i'm sure someone with very little expertise in the art game who fancies a Banksy could be duped into buying a WCP framed piece. Not quite sure how you can stick up for him The numbering and stamping is WCP, so must be a right novice to not even know the basics like print release, by whom etc. Personally I don't like copies, but if they are to be done, and they will/are prefer it's done this way and not trying to dupe anyone.
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Nick
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Art Wanted, by Nick on Jan 30, 2015 23:41:31 GMT 1, Never actually seen one, if it has different numbering and wcp blind stamp then yeah i agree, and retract what i said. Thought it looked identical to the original prints from the front.
Never actually seen one, if it has different numbering and wcp blind stamp then yeah i agree, and retract what i said. Thought it looked identical to the original prints from the front.
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Art Wanted, by wishingiwaslucky on Jan 31, 2015 0:02:36 GMT 1, Not seen one bye eye, but from what I hear they are very good quality, and I'm sure there are a few out there that could do this with fraudulent intentions, which is not the case here. I don't condone copying, but in 2-3 years we will all be queuing up for a copy as we can't even afford to smell one anymore..just a view to clear up confusion. I have no knowledge or intent to advertise for this company, so don't take my comments in any way other than informative.
Not seen one bye eye, but from what I hear they are very good quality, and I'm sure there are a few out there that could do this with fraudulent intentions, which is not the case here. I don't condone copying, but in 2-3 years we will all be queuing up for a copy as we can't even afford to smell one anymore..just a view to clear up confusion. I have no knowledge or intent to advertise for this company, so don't take my comments in any way other than informative.
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sgolby
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Art Wanted, by sgolby on Jan 31, 2015 1:26:07 GMT 1, So is the dude who sells bootleg DVD's at my train station... All that said, if he posts here he should state in the thread "BOOTLEG ...... Available now" Not really. The guy who sells bootleg DVD's doesn't say, hey man, these are definitely bootleg. WCP is very clear on every single auction they have: "They are stamped on the reverse - COPY - to prevent being sold on the market as originals, as the originals can sell for up to ยฃ2000. These come with our own numbering system and stamp.THESE ARE NOT SOLD AS ORIGINALS. These are not sold with a frame." You can dislike the practice all you want, but the person is very up front about it and as far as I can tell, does not conduct any business on this forum, only posts updates when prints are on the 'bay.
Either way when listing on here they should openly state that these are bootlegs. That way if someone jumps and buys one without reading they won't be screwed. While i appreciate the disclaimer they post, i believe they should state bootleg or fake somewhere in the sale title. Don't really give a damn either way for myself as i would never buy one, but would prefer if you come on this forum and are peddaling a fake, that you state it in the title. Otherwise piss off to ebay and don't advetise on here.
So is the dude who sells bootleg DVD's at my train station... All that said, if he posts here he should state in the thread "BOOTLEG ...... Available now" Not really. The guy who sells bootleg DVD's doesn't say, hey man, these are definitely bootleg. WCP is very clear on every single auction they have: "They are stamped on the reverse - COPY - to prevent being sold on the market as originals, as the originals can sell for up to ยฃ2000. These come with our own numbering system and stamp.THESE ARE NOT SOLD AS ORIGINALS. These are not sold with a frame." You can dislike the practice all you want, but the person is very up front about it and as far as I can tell, does not conduct any business on this forum, only posts updates when prints are on the 'bay. Either way when listing on here they should openly state that these are bootlegs. That way if someone jumps and buys one without reading they won't be screwed. While i appreciate the disclaimer they post, i believe they should state bootleg or fake somewhere in the sale title. Don't really give a damn either way for myself as i would never buy one, but would prefer if you come on this forum and are peddaling a fake, that you state it in the title. Otherwise piss off to ebay and don't advetise on here.
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Art Wanted, by wishingiwaslucky on Jan 31, 2015 1:38:17 GMT 1, Not really. The guy who sells bootleg DVD's doesn't say, hey man, these are definitely bootleg. WCP is very clear on every single auction they have: "They are stamped on the reverse - COPY - to prevent being sold on the market as originals, as the originals can sell for up to ยฃ2000. These come with our own numbering system and stamp.THESE ARE NOT SOLD AS ORIGINALS. These are not sold with a frame." You can dislike the practice all you want, but the person is very up front about it and as far as I can tell, does not conduct any business on this forum, only posts updates when prints are on the 'bay. Either way when listing on here they should openly state that these are bootlegs. That way if someone jumps and buys one without reading they won't be screwed. While i appreciate the disclaimer they post, i believe they should state bootleg or fake somewhere in the sale title. Don't really give a damn either way for myself as i would never buy one, but would prefer if you come on this forum and are peddaling a fake, that you state it in the title. Otherwise piss off to ebay and don't advetise on here. Agree also, but for ยฃ300 you should be a tad suspicious when you get to that point, and they won't charge more...most here I believe know WCP, but (although I never dealt with) would think that at no point would it be even suggested, after contact, that they are legit. Seem honest copiers
Not really. The guy who sells bootleg DVD's doesn't say, hey man, these are definitely bootleg. WCP is very clear on every single auction they have: "They are stamped on the reverse - COPY - to prevent being sold on the market as originals, as the originals can sell for up to ยฃ2000. These come with our own numbering system and stamp.THESE ARE NOT SOLD AS ORIGINALS. These are not sold with a frame." You can dislike the practice all you want, but the person is very up front about it and as far as I can tell, does not conduct any business on this forum, only posts updates when prints are on the 'bay. Either way when listing on here they should openly state that these are bootlegs. That way if someone jumps and buys one without reading they won't be screwed. While i appreciate the disclaimer they post, i believe they should state bootleg or fake somewhere in the sale title. Don't really give a damn either way for myself as i would never buy one, but would prefer if you come on this forum and are peddaling a fake, that you state it in the title. Otherwise piss off to ebay and don't advetise on here. Agree also, but for ยฃ300 you should be a tad suspicious when you get to that point, and they won't charge more...most here I believe know WCP, but (although I never dealt with) would think that at no point would it be even suggested, after contact, that they are legit. Seem honest copiers
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Dice
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Art Wanted, by Dice on Jan 31, 2015 1:55:06 GMT 1, Come on anyone who buys a banksy print without a COA is just asking for trouble, you can't accuse WCP of trying to scam anyone. The onus is on the buyer (who is parting with their hard earned cash) to check authenticity anyway.
Come on anyone who buys a banksy print without a COA is just asking for trouble, you can't accuse WCP of trying to scam anyone. The onus is on the buyer (who is parting with their hard earned cash) to check authenticity anyway.
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Art Wanted, by wishingiwaslucky on Jan 31, 2015 2:00:58 GMT 1, Better the devil you know..
Better the devil you know..
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Art Wanted, by Rouen Cathedral on Jan 31, 2015 3:34:52 GMT 1, So are these copies numbered?
I keep seeing that they are but do they keep making more?
So are these copies numbered?
I keep seeing that they are but do they keep making more?
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naughtyshorty
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Art Wanted, by naughtyshorty on Jan 31, 2015 7:54:25 GMT 1, Have to say, I think this thread and the wcp prints are misleading. This is a banksy forum where people buy banksy prints. So if someone is advertising a happy choppers and barcode for sale and not explicitly saying there are fakes, I'm not going to know any different. Understood that the eBay selling is much clearer so no issue with that.
When I bought my first banksy I had v little knowledge of what I was doing. Could have been so easily scammed and could have got it v wrong. Luckily I didnt, but there are lots of buyers out there who don't know or understand about blind stamps and who would have never even known about wcp.
I've no big theoretical issue against wcp (although I don't see much or a difference between this and pirate DVDs other than Im sure wcp doesn't fund organised crime), I just think in all sellings it should be explicitly clear.....
Have to say, I think this thread and the wcp prints are misleading. This is a banksy forum where people buy banksy prints. So if someone is advertising a happy choppers and barcode for sale and not explicitly saying there are fakes, I'm not going to know any different. Understood that the eBay selling is much clearer so no issue with that.
When I bought my first banksy I had v little knowledge of what I was doing. Could have been so easily scammed and could have got it v wrong. Luckily I didnt, but there are lots of buyers out there who don't know or understand about blind stamps and who would have never even known about wcp.
I've no big theoretical issue against wcp (although I don't see much or a difference between this and pirate DVDs other than Im sure wcp doesn't fund organised crime), I just think in all sellings it should be explicitly clear.....
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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 10:15:33 GMT 1, I agree, I can remember the day when I went to pick up my first Bansky, I was bamboozled by the seller somewhat, when I got home and attempted to get it out of the tube it was not a Bansky at all!!, it turned out to be a semi detached cottage in Mobberley near Wilmslow!!, how we all laughed.
I agree, I can remember the day when I went to pick up my first Bansky, I was bamboozled by the seller somewhat, when I got home and attempted to get it out of the tube it was not a Bansky at all!!, it turned out to be a semi detached cottage in Mobberley near Wilmslow!!, how we all laughed.
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Dr Plip
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Art Wanted, by Dr Plip on Jan 31, 2015 10:22:53 GMT 1, I agree, I can remember the day when I went to pick up my first Bansky, I was bamboozled by the seller somewhat, when I got home and attempted to get it out of the tube it was not a Bansky at all!!, it turned out to be a semi detached cottage in Mobberley near Wilmslow!!, how we all laughed. Yeah. They blind you with art jargon. When you're starting out, who knows the difference between deckled and decking?
I agree, I can remember the day when I went to pick up my first Bansky, I was bamboozled by the seller somewhat, when I got home and attempted to get it out of the tube it was not a Bansky at all!!, it turned out to be a semi detached cottage in Mobberley near Wilmslow!!, how we all laughed. Yeah. They blind you with art jargon. When you're starting out, who knows the difference between deckled and decking?
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Art Wanted, by wishingiwaslucky on Feb 1, 2015 5:39:12 GMT 1, That brings me back to a time when my folks were expecting a delivery from Argos, there was a knock at the door, and when they opened it there was a giant sheep there...they phoned Argos and sorted it out, should have been a toaster...oh how we laughed
That brings me back to a time when my folks were expecting a delivery from Argos, there was a knock at the door, and when they opened it there was a giant sheep there...they phoned Argos and sorted it out, should have been a toaster...oh how we laughed
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Art Wanted, by The West Country Prince on Mar 1, 2015 20:54:49 GMT 1, Now available, along with others ;-)
Now available, along with others ;-)
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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 21:19:39 GMT 1, do they come with a COA?
do they come with a COA?
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Art Wanted, by Liverpool ste123 on Mar 1, 2015 21:24:42 GMT 1, Now available, along with others ;-) Where from please?
Now available, along with others ;-) Where from please?
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Art Wanted, by Schrรถdinger's Chat on Mar 1, 2015 21:27:19 GMT 1, EBay - WCP - banksy reproductions
EBay - WCP - banksy reproductions
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Art Wanted, by Liverpool ste123 on Mar 1, 2015 21:43:32 GMT 1, Cheers fella, I'll have a mooch
Cheers fella, I'll have a mooch
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Art Wanted, by Fish in the Sea on Mar 1, 2015 21:49:50 GMT 1, Cheers fella, I'll have a mooch Lol
Cheers fella, I'll have a mooch Lol
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Art Wanted, by Liverpool ste123 on Mar 1, 2015 21:52:56 GMT 1, What's funny?
Not going to be affording a banksy anytime soon...
What's funny?
Not going to be affording a banksy anytime soon...
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chads007
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Art Wanted, by chads007 on Mar 2, 2015 0:40:17 GMT 1, Pm mc9205
Pm mc9205
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SW20
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Art Wanted, by SW20 on Mar 2, 2015 1:50:17 GMT 1, What's funny? Not going to be affording a banksy anytime soon... Then may be consider buying a piece of art as opposed to a photo copy!!!!
What's funny? Not going to be affording a banksy anytime soon... Then may be consider buying a piece of art as opposed to a photo copy!!!!
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Art Wanted, by Liverpool ste123 on Mar 2, 2015 3:35:54 GMT 1, Oh right. I didn't realise I needed to run it by the forum & the great wisdom of the many to buy a ยฃ40/ยฃ50 piece of paper...
As per my reasoning, do you not think if I had ยฃ10k spare to invest, I wouldn't invest it in a Banksy? To afford one I'd need to sell a chunk of my collection.
But for my expected baby's room, who cares? (Obviously a bunch of snobs on here with deep pockets and a hatred for WCP).
I've never owned a WCP print & for the no-brainer outlay see it as no big deal. Nor should anyone else. It's horses for courses and anybody not wanting to run in the race should avoid the commentary on mine...
There are plenty more threads to place sarcastic comments on to gain likes you know
Oh right. I didn't realise I needed to run it by the forum & the great wisdom of the many to buy a ยฃ40/ยฃ50 piece of paper... As per my reasoning, do you not think if I had ยฃ10k spare to invest, I wouldn't invest it in a Banksy? To afford one I'd need to sell a chunk of my collection. But for my expected baby's room, who cares? (Obviously a bunch of snobs on here with deep pockets and a hatred for WCP). I've never owned a WCP print & for the no-brainer outlay see it as no big deal. Nor should anyone else. It's horses for courses and anybody not wanting to run in the race should avoid the commentary on mine... There are plenty more threads to place sarcastic comments on to gain likes you know
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Art Wanted, by Quinnster on Mar 2, 2015 15:03:52 GMT 1, What's funny? Not going to be affording a banksy anytime soon...
That's cos you keep buying everything else :-)
Go on a buying ban for a few months and you will have the cash :-)
What's funny? Not going to be affording a banksy anytime soon... That's cos you keep buying everything else :-) Go on a buying ban for a few months and you will have the cash :-)
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Art Wanted, by Liverpool ste123 on Mar 2, 2015 16:25:49 GMT 1, On a large purchase buying ban now as expecting 3rd baby, changing our car & saving for a house deposit - hence looking at the cheapies WCP does
This addiction to art is one unhealthy obsession!
On a large purchase buying ban now as expecting 3rd baby, changing our car & saving for a house deposit - hence looking at the cheapies WCP does This addiction to art is one unhealthy obsession!
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Art Wanted, by Coach on Mar 2, 2015 17:52:54 GMT 1, On a large purchase buying ban now as expecting 3rd baby, changing our car & saving for a house deposit - hence looking at the cheapies WCP does This addiction to art is one unhealthy obsession!
Congratulations on the pending arrival!!
On a large purchase buying ban now as expecting 3rd baby, changing our car & saving for a house deposit - hence looking at the cheapies WCP does This addiction to art is one unhealthy obsession! Congratulations on the pending arrival!!
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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 22:24:09 GMT 1, Agreed, good luck with the impending arrival - child's play really if you already have two!
Some people on here think that everyone else are millionaires (and some are) but I'm sure that's not the case else we wouldn't be mincing about at the lower end of the market?
Agreed, good luck with the impending arrival - child's play really if you already have two!
Some people on here think that everyone else are millionaires (and some are) but I'm sure that's not the case else we wouldn't be mincing about at the lower end of the market?
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