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Art Wanted, by Daniel Silk on Jul 11, 2016 20:27:07 GMT 1, People are discussing WCP on another thread, so -
Do you think West Country Prince damages Banksy's reputation? Or does it just allow fans of the images get art at cheap prices? Do you think it really bothers Banksy? Or does it really only effect the big money art collectors?
People are discussing WCP on another thread, so -
Do you think West Country Prince damages Banksy's reputation? Or does it just allow fans of the images get art at cheap prices? Do you think it really bothers Banksy? Or does it really only effect the big money art collectors?
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Art Wanted, by Karl Read on Jul 11, 2016 20:42:37 GMT 1, People are discussing WCP on another thread, so - Do you think West Country Prince damages Banksy's reputation? Or does it just allow fans of the images get art at cheap prices? Do you think it really bothers Banksy? Or does it really only effect the big money art collectors? What it does effect is the increase in someone getting ripped off! HATE WCP!!!!!!
People are discussing WCP on another thread, so - Do you think West Country Prince damages Banksy's reputation? Or does it just allow fans of the images get art at cheap prices? Do you think it really bothers Banksy? Or does it really only effect the big money art collectors? What it does effect is the increase in someone getting ripped off! HATE WCP!!!!!!
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Art Wanted, by Monkey Say Monkey Do on Jul 11, 2016 20:49:18 GMT 1, if you enjoy the image , why not buy the print ??
good luck to ya WCP
its not all about money ....
if you enjoy the image , why not buy the print ??
good luck to ya WCP
its not all about money ....
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Art Wanted, by rgc on Jul 11, 2016 20:54:24 GMT 1, People are discussing WCP on another thread, so - Do you think West Country Prince damages Banksy's reputation? Or does it just allow fans of the images get art at cheap prices? Do you think it really bothers Banksy? Or does it really only effect the big money art collectors? What it does effect is the increase in someone getting ripped off! HATE WCP!!!!!!
How does someone get ripped off? Last time I looked these were less than ยฃ100 and looked like reasonable copies. I don't think people are buying them thinking they are legit?! So people are assessing if ยฃ100 is worth the money for an image they can no longer afford. Fakes on the bay must be much worse in terms of being passed of as legit and getting ripped off
People are discussing WCP on another thread, so - Do you think West Country Prince damages Banksy's reputation? Or does it just allow fans of the images get art at cheap prices? Do you think it really bothers Banksy? Or does it really only effect the big money art collectors? What it does effect is the increase in someone getting ripped off! HATE WCP!!!!!! How does someone get ripped off? Last time I looked these were less than ยฃ100 and looked like reasonable copies. I don't think people are buying them thinking they are legit?! So people are assessing if ยฃ100 is worth the money for an image they can no longer afford. Fakes on the bay must be much worse in terms of being passed of as legit and getting ripped off
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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 21:25:33 GMT 1, Maybe because the WCP stamp gets covered on the back with a sticker, fake signature and fake COA?
Maybe because the WCP stamp gets covered on the back with a sticker, fake signature and fake COA?
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Art Wanted, by Karl Read on Jul 11, 2016 21:28:41 GMT 1, What it does effect is the increase in someone getting ripped off! HATE WCP!!!!!! How does someone get ripped off? Last time I looked these were less than ยฃ100 and looked like reasonable copies. I don't think people are buying them thinking they are legit?! So people are assessing if ยฃ100 is worth the money for an image they can no longer afford. Fakes on the bay must be much worse in terms of being passed of as legit and getting ripped off A fake WCP White print (Framed was sold on eBay for around ยฃ11,000 a few months ago. Fake sig.
What it does effect is the increase in someone getting ripped off! HATE WCP!!!!!! How does someone get ripped off? Last time I looked these were less than ยฃ100 and looked like reasonable copies. I don't think people are buying them thinking they are legit?! So people are assessing if ยฃ100 is worth the money for an image they can no longer afford. Fakes on the bay must be much worse in terms of being passed of as legit and getting ripped off A fake WCP White print (Framed was sold on eBay for around ยฃ11,000 a few months ago. Fake sig.
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Art Wanted, by rjf76 on Jul 11, 2016 22:35:28 GMT 1, How does someone get ripped off? Last time I looked these were less than ยฃ100 and looked like reasonable copies. I don't think people are buying them thinking they are legit?! So people are assessing if ยฃ100 is worth the money for an image they can no longer afford. Fakes on the bay must be much worse in terms of being passed of as legit and getting ripped off A fake WCP White print (Framed was sold on eBay for around ยฃ11,000 a few months ago. Fake sig.
Ouch.
How does someone get ripped off? Last time I looked these were less than ยฃ100 and looked like reasonable copies. I don't think people are buying them thinking they are legit?! So people are assessing if ยฃ100 is worth the money for an image they can no longer afford. Fakes on the bay must be much worse in terms of being passed of as legit and getting ripped off A fake WCP White print (Framed was sold on eBay for around ยฃ11,000 a few months ago. Fake sig. Ouch.
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Art Wanted, by Happy Go Lucky Chap on Jul 12, 2016 1:27:21 GMT 1, The quality of the repros are top drawer (I unashamedly have a couple of WCPs), suitable for anyone just wanting to display a print on the wall to admire instead of being tucked away in the plans chest....
....speaking as someone who owns a large plans chest filled with treasure.
That said, I do feel sorry for those who have fallen victim to unscrupulous eBay sellers, but all WCP prints are clearly stamped as WCP on the reverse.
The quality of the repros are top drawer (I unashamedly have a couple of WCPs), suitable for anyone just wanting to display a print on the wall to admire instead of being tucked away in the plans chest....
....speaking as someone who owns a large plans chest filled with treasure.
That said, I do feel sorry for those who have fallen victim to unscrupulous eBay sellers, but all WCP prints are clearly stamped as WCP on the reverse.
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Art Wanted, by docean on Jul 12, 2016 1:33:56 GMT 1, Someone would have to be pretty darn stupid to buy one thinking it was the real thing. They are stamped showing you they're WCP.
I think it's great for anyone who loves the images and can't afford the Banksy's
Someone would have to be pretty darn stupid to buy one thinking it was the real thing. They are stamped showing you they're WCP.
I think it's great for anyone who loves the images and can't afford the Banksy's
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Art Wanted, by nobokov on Jul 12, 2016 5:06:29 GMT 1, People are discussing WCP on another thread, so - Do you think West Country Prince damages Banksy's reputation? Or does it just allow fans of the images get art at cheap prices? Do you think it really bothers Banksy? Or does it really only effect the big money art collectors? I had no idea WCP existed until this thread was commented on today, but I find this issue of repro/genuine rather interesting. Has Banksy's success rendered his art no longer meaningful or as important, if the art has transitioned into merely an investment vehicle?
I'll likely never be able to afford Banksy, but I enjoy much of his work. Upon learning about WCP, I found, Girl with a Balloon, arguably the most recognized image in his catalogue - I bought it for $75 with no other bidders. If this image is so important and if others have attested to the quality of the repro, shouldn't there be a larger demand for these?
There's another thread that discusses Banksy's alleged abandonment of the freefolk. Once an artist reaches investment-grade status, can he/she still create art for the common collector with all that underlying notoriety? And are common collectors truly interested in the art itself or are they just looking to be the next lottery winner? Perhaps the only way to create art is for him to start anew under another moniker.
Many of the discussions on these boards seem to center on the price/current value of artworks, but I haven't seen much conversation about the actual artwork - interpretation/meaning/etc. Isn't that what art is supposed to be about?
People are discussing WCP on another thread, so - Do you think West Country Prince damages Banksy's reputation? Or does it just allow fans of the images get art at cheap prices? Do you think it really bothers Banksy? Or does it really only effect the big money art collectors? I had no idea WCP existed until this thread was commented on today, but I find this issue of repro/genuine rather interesting. Has Banksy's success rendered his art no longer meaningful or as important, if the art has transitioned into merely an investment vehicle? I'll likely never be able to afford Banksy, but I enjoy much of his work. Upon learning about WCP, I found, Girl with a Balloon, arguably the most recognized image in his catalogue - I bought it for $75 with no other bidders. If this image is so important and if others have attested to the quality of the repro, shouldn't there be a larger demand for these? There's another thread that discusses Banksy's alleged abandonment of the freefolk. Once an artist reaches investment-grade status, can he/she still create art for the common collector with all that underlying notoriety? And are common collectors truly interested in the art itself or are they just looking to be the next lottery winner? Perhaps the only way to create art is for him to start anew under another moniker. Many of the discussions on these boards seem to center on the price/current value of artworks, but I haven't seen much conversation about the actual artwork - interpretation/meaning/etc. Isn't that what art is supposed to be about?
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Art Wanted, by Lroy on Jul 12, 2016 6:49:55 GMT 1, How does someone get ripped off? Last time I looked these were less than ยฃ100 and looked like reasonable copies. I don't think people are buying them thinking they are legit?! So people are assessing if ยฃ100 is worth the money for an image they can no longer afford. Fakes on the bay must be much worse in terms of being passed of as legit and getting ripped off A fake WCP White print (Framed was sold on eBay for around ยฃ11,000 a few months ago. Fake sig. who told you that ? Have you proofs ? It can't be ! lol for 11.000 ?!! I think that your hate makes you a bit lying. Bad faith.
How does someone get ripped off? Last time I looked these were less than ยฃ100 and looked like reasonable copies. I don't think people are buying them thinking they are legit?! So people are assessing if ยฃ100 is worth the money for an image they can no longer afford. Fakes on the bay must be much worse in terms of being passed of as legit and getting ripped off A fake WCP White print (Framed was sold on eBay for around ยฃ11,000 a few months ago. Fake sig. who told you that ? Have you proofs ? It can't be ! lol for 11.000 ?!! I think that your hate makes you a bit lying. Bad faith.
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Art Wanted, by Karl Read on Jul 12, 2016 7:05:20 GMT 1, A fake WCP White print (Framed was sold on eBay for around ยฃ11,000 a few months ago. Fake sig. who told you that ? Have you proofs ? It can't be ! lol for 11.000 ?!! I think that your hate makes you a bit lying. Bad faith. I did have proof yes, i posted it on here to warn people as it was getting bid on. However the thread got deleted because a another forum member posted personal information on the thread.
My hate? what you on about and i don't lie!
Daniel silk can confirm for me.
A fake WCP White print (Framed was sold on eBay for around ยฃ11,000 a few months ago. Fake sig. who told you that ? Have you proofs ? It can't be ! lol for 11.000 ?!! I think that your hate makes you a bit lying. Bad faith. I did have proof yes, i posted it on here to warn people as it was getting bid on. However the thread got deleted because a another forum member posted personal information on the thread. My hate? what you on about and i don't lie! Daniel silk can confirm for me.
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Art Wanted, by njr911 on Jul 12, 2016 9:37:22 GMT 1, I'm thinking about buying a couple of WCP prints and replacing my real Banksys with WCP ones and putting the valuable ones in secure storage. Ie my plan chest to avoid the inevatable day when one of the kids smashes a Banksy off the wall
I'm thinking about buying a couple of WCP prints and replacing my real Banksys with WCP ones and putting the valuable ones in secure storage. Ie my plan chest to avoid the inevatable day when one of the kids smashes a Banksy off the wall
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Art Wanted, by Happy Shopper on Jul 12, 2016 9:42:59 GMT 1, Someone would have to be pretty darn stupid to buy one thinking it was the real thing. They are stamped showing you they're WCP. I think it's great for anyone who loves the images and can't afford the Banksy's Tricky to see that stamp once it's framed! (It's on the back) That's how people have been tricked.
Someone would have to be pretty darn stupid to buy one thinking it was the real thing. They are stamped showing you they're WCP. I think it's great for anyone who loves the images and can't afford the Banksy's Tricky to see that stamp once it's framed! (It's on the back) That's how people have been tricked.
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Art Wanted, by Lroy on Jul 12, 2016 9:43:57 GMT 1, who told you that ? Have you proofs ? It can't be ! lol for 11.000 ?!! I think that your hate makes you a bit lying. Bad faith. I did have proof yes, i posted it on here to warn people as it was getting bid on. However the thread got deleted because a another forum member posted personal information on the thread. My hate? what you on about and i don't lie! Daniel silk can confirm for me. Ok, but was the deal have been confirmed ? Who Knows, I am sure that it is or was a fake buying/bidding to make this dealer arrested. I understand that people can be swindled on littel things, but 11.000 ?! It should be an idiot ( anyway, as read up, it is precised in three place that it is not abanksy prints, in red ). And this seller risks jails. That's why I think that it is a joke, and nobody has paid for it ! M. S... for 1000 k had proposed the banksy identity one day on ebay ! and it was a canular. Why to talk about this, we all know that WCP is making copies - as written - , and that this story oof sale on ebay, is a fake or a dump...
I have some, from the WCP, they are ok ; Do you know that they have been printed on the same paper and with the same ink than Pow ?
* concerning the hate, it is because you told it yourself in the thread upstairs. Have a nice day
who told you that ? Have you proofs ? It can't be ! lol for 11.000 ?!! I think that your hate makes you a bit lying. Bad faith. I did have proof yes, i posted it on here to warn people as it was getting bid on. However the thread got deleted because a another forum member posted personal information on the thread. My hate? what you on about and i don't lie! Daniel silk can confirm for me. Ok, but was the deal have been confirmed ? Who Knows, I am sure that it is or was a fake buying/bidding to make this dealer arrested. I understand that people can be swindled on littel things, but 11.000 ?! It should be an idiot ( anyway, as read up, it is precised in three place that it is not abanksy prints, in red ). And this seller risks jails. That's why I think that it is a joke, and nobody has paid for it ! M. S... for 1000 k had proposed the banksy identity one day on ebay ! and it was a canular. Why to talk about this, we all know that WCP is making copies - as written - , and that this story oof sale on ebay, is a fake or a dump... I have some, from the WCP, they are ok ; Do you know that they have been printed on the same paper and with the same ink than Pow ? * concerning the hate, it is because you told it yourself in the thread upstairs. Have a nice day
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Art Wanted, by Lroy on Jul 12, 2016 9:46:51 GMT 1, Someone would have to be pretty darn stupid to buy one thinking it was the real thing. They are stamped showing you they're WCP. I think it's great for anyone who loves the images and can't afford the Banksy's Tricky to see that stamp once it's framed! (It's on the back) That's how people have been tricked. Could we have the pseudo of this seller ? I can't believe that this print was really bought ... Which print was it ? thanks !
Someone would have to be pretty darn stupid to buy one thinking it was the real thing. They are stamped showing you they're WCP. I think it's great for anyone who loves the images and can't afford the Banksy's Tricky to see that stamp once it's framed! (It's on the back) That's how people have been tricked. Could we have the pseudo of this seller ? I can't believe that this print was really bought ... Which print was it ? thanks !
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Art Wanted, by RoboJ on Jul 12, 2016 10:46:27 GMT 1, Does anybody have any side by side comparisons of WCP's & originals? Are they identical or are the similar?
Does anybody have any side by side comparisons of WCP's & originals? Are they identical or are the similar?
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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Jul 12, 2016 10:58:53 GMT 1, I compared one to my LN, tbh I thought it was rubbish, not sure what all the hype is about.
I compared one to my LN, tbh I thought it was rubbish, not sure what all the hype is about.
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Art Wanted, by Lroy on Jul 12, 2016 11:00:28 GMT 1, Does anybody have any side by side comparisons of WCP's & originals? Are they identical or are the similar? Honnestly , we have to be mad to confond them ( and Banksy never made any oppostion on them ) :
Does anybody have any side by side comparisons of WCP's & originals? Are they identical or are the similar? Honnestly , we have to be mad to confond them ( and Banksy never made any oppostion on them ) :
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Art Wanted, by Lroy on Jul 12, 2016 11:02:44 GMT 1, I compared one to my LN, tbh I thought it was rubbish, not sure what all the hype is about.
Now he writes the RED " Banksy Copy " on the right face of the print.
I compared one to my LN, tbh I thought it was rubbish, not sure what all the hype is about. Now he writes the RED " Banksy Copy " on the right face of the print.
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Art Wanted, by Happy Shopper on Jul 12, 2016 12:13:42 GMT 1, Tricky to see that stamp once it's framed! (It's on the back) That's how people have been tricked. Could we have the pseudo of this seller ? I can't believe that this print was really bought ... Which print was it ? thanks ! You'll have to do a search yourself... but you're missing the point. It's just very easy for any conman to sell one of these framed to someone who's not seen a real print, or has one to compare.
If he's printing "Banksy Copy" on the front of the new ones, then obviously that's better as long as it's not so near the edge it can be hidden with a frame mount.
Tricky to see that stamp once it's framed! (It's on the back) That's how people have been tricked. Could we have the pseudo of this seller ? I can't believe that this print was really bought ... Which print was it ? thanks ! You'll have to do a search yourself... but you're missing the point. It's just very easy for any conman to sell one of these framed to someone who's not seen a real print, or has one to compare. If he's printing "Banksy Copy" on the front of the new ones, then obviously that's better as long as it's not so near the edge it can be hidden with a frame mount.
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Art Wanted, by iamzero on Jul 12, 2016 12:31:58 GMT 1, Surely anyone likely to pay thousands for a Banksy has the knowledge to check the print over out of the frame to know what's being bought. The only people I can see being turned over by one of these is someone out to bag a bargain that doesn't exist unless you're trying it on with the seller.
Surely anyone likely to pay thousands for a Banksy has the knowledge to check the print over out of the frame to know what's being bought. The only people I can see being turned over by one of these is someone out to bag a bargain that doesn't exist unless you're trying it on with the seller.
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Art Wanted, by Fะฏ on Jul 12, 2016 12:42:20 GMT 1, Surely anyone likely to pay thousands for a Banksy has the knowledge to check the print over out of the frame to know what's being bought. The only people I can see being turned over by one of these is someone out to bag a bargain that doesn't exist unless you're trying it on with the seller. Cannot believe there are still people around who believe a seller could be stupid enough to sell a Banksy print for a bargain price. If its too good to be true, then it is.
Buyers get lured in by thinking they are being clever with what they know - when the sellers are actually the 'clever' ones. That case around 7-8 years ago highlighted that when many people from this forum got fucked by that guy selling fake designer handbags.
Surely anyone likely to pay thousands for a Banksy has the knowledge to check the print over out of the frame to know what's being bought. The only people I can see being turned over by one of these is someone out to bag a bargain that doesn't exist unless you're trying it on with the seller. Cannot believe there are still people around who believe a seller could be stupid enough to sell a Banksy print for a bargain price. If its too good to be true, then it is. Buyers get lured in by thinking they are being clever with what they know - when the sellers are actually the 'clever' ones. That case around 7-8 years ago highlighted that when many people from this forum got fucked by that guy selling fake designer handbags.
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Art Wanted, by Karl Read on Jul 12, 2016 12:42:34 GMT 1, Surely anyone likely to pay thousands for a Banksy has the knowledge to check the print over out of the frame to know what's being bought. The only people I can see being turned over by one of these is someone out to bag a bargain that doesn't exist unless you're trying it on with the seller. Im pretty sure the fake had a COA as well, obviously also fake, believable for some. All you need is a Banksy tenner and you could trick someone in to buying it if they didn't check out with POW first. You would think most people would, but.....
Surely anyone likely to pay thousands for a Banksy has the knowledge to check the print over out of the frame to know what's being bought. The only people I can see being turned over by one of these is someone out to bag a bargain that doesn't exist unless you're trying it on with the seller. Im pretty sure the fake had a COA as well, obviously also fake, believable for some. All you need is a Banksy tenner and you could trick someone in to buying it if they didn't check out with POW first. You would think most people would, but.....
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Art Wanted, by Happy Shopper on Jul 12, 2016 12:44:46 GMT 1, Surely anyone likely to pay thousands for a Banksy has the knowledge to check the print over out of the frame to know what's being bought. If you were buying a print from another artist in a gallery, would you insist on getting it out of the frame? The whole "see Banksy prints out of the frame" thing seems to have come about only because of WCP.
Surely anyone likely to pay thousands for a Banksy has the knowledge to check the print over out of the frame to know what's being bought. If you were buying a print from another artist in a gallery, would you insist on getting it out of the frame? The whole "see Banksy prints out of the frame" thing seems to have come about only because of WCP.
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Art Wanted, by smokey on Jul 12, 2016 12:44:49 GMT 1, Hadn't even seen these. I'll check the funds & shipping. I did however make it to the Screaming Hand anniversary "tour", and tho not large had some brilliant skate/hand related pieces! True joy for an 80's skate punk! --And just noticed the deck is sold out. Sorry mate. Tho I may opt for the print anyway. Again, apologies
Hadn't even seen these. I'll check the funds & shipping. I did however make it to the Screaming Hand anniversary "tour", and tho not large had some brilliant skate/hand related pieces! True joy for an 80's skate punk! --And just noticed the deck is sold out. Sorry mate. Tho I may opt for the print anyway. Again, apologies
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Art Wanted, by Prescription Art on Jul 12, 2016 12:55:02 GMT 1, Who cares about where the stamp is. These things are just shit forgeries and shouldn't be supported by anyone with any morals.
Who cares about where the stamp is. These things are just shit forgeries and shouldn't be supported by anyone with any morals.
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Art Wanted, by Reader on Jul 12, 2016 13:50:30 GMT 1, Oh James! They are not forgeries as they are not pretending to be by anyone but WCP. But other people are pretending they are, so in that sense, they are Banksy forgeries. It doesn't matter who makes them, WCP or anyone else.
Oh James! They are not forgeries as they are not pretending to be by anyone but WCP. But other people are pretending they are, so in that sense, they are Banksy forgeries. It doesn't matter who makes them, WCP or anyone else.
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Art Wanted, by sneib on Jul 12, 2016 14:13:51 GMT 1, No need to feil sorry. Was sold out in an hour. Thanks Anyway. Bought it on Ebay yesterday. A bit more, but still not the worst. This is going straight up on the wall
No need to feil sorry. Was sold out in an hour. Thanks Anyway. Bought it on Ebay yesterday. A bit more, but still not the worst. This is going straight up on the wall
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