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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Jan 31, 2018 21:22:22 GMT 1, Searching for a Bast Mickey (or any other Bast for that matter). Also for a Faile Bunny Girl (one of the studio prints not the POW version). Can offer a straight cash deal or have some Invader and Blu as swaps. Thanks
Right I have sourced a Mickey from a legend of the forum. Still on the look out for a Faile Bunny Girl and more Bast (including another Mickey - perhaps without a profanity this time)! Let me know what you have available.
I can offer an Invader RVE, Blu and perhaps a Banksy Soup Csn as part of a trade.
Thanks
Searching for a Bast Mickey (or any other Bast for that matter). Also for a Faile Bunny Girl (one of the studio prints not the POW version). Can offer a straight cash deal or have some Invader and Blu as swaps. Thanks Right I have sourced a Mickey from a legend of the forum. Still on the look out for a Faile Bunny Girl and more Bast (including another Mickey - perhaps without a profanity this time)! Let me know what you have available. I can offer an Invader RVE, Blu and perhaps a Banksy Soup Csn as part of a trade. Thanks
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moron
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Art Wanted, by moron on Feb 1, 2018 19:06:38 GMT 1, Over 6 years trading doubt it will put forward now, Yes, that's the reason I don't buy the moral argument about "no permission was given" or "acting against Banksy will". My guess is that some kind of tacit permission has been given to WCP, is the only rational explanation about why WCP has not received a simple letter with a standard C&D boilerplate. When all said and done, it is up to Banksy or his m a n a g m e n t to take action.
Banksy states clearly he is not represented by any galleries, so that would exclude WCP from having any permission too.
As all of the authentic Banksy editions sold out a long time ago and there is no more money to eb made from them by Banksy, maybe he misses the old days when he was selling prints for fifty quid to people who appreciated his efforts and seeing people buying the WCP prints gives him a warm feeling inside.
I do wonder if Banksy should have set up a clothing line early on with his art on T shirts etc as just looking at the demand worldwide and sales would have made a lot of money for him rather than the fakers.
Over 6 years trading doubt it will put forward now, Yes, that's the reason I don't buy the moral argument about "no permission was given" or "acting against Banksy will". My guess is that some kind of tacit permission has been given to WCP, is the only rational explanation about why WCP has not received a simple letter with a standard C&D boilerplate. When all said and done, it is up to Banksy or his m a n a g m e n t to take action. Banksy states clearly he is not represented by any galleries, so that would exclude WCP from having any permission too. As all of the authentic Banksy editions sold out a long time ago and there is no more money to eb made from them by Banksy, maybe he misses the old days when he was selling prints for fifty quid to people who appreciated his efforts and seeing people buying the WCP prints gives him a warm feeling inside. I do wonder if Banksy should have set up a clothing line early on with his art on T shirts etc as just looking at the demand worldwide and sales would have made a lot of money for him rather than the fakers.
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tab1
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Art Wanted, by tab1 on Feb 1, 2018 19:19:32 GMT 1, Yes, that's the reason I don't buy the moral argument about "no permission was given" or "acting against Banksy will". My guess is that some kind of tacit permission has been given to WCP, is the only rational explanation about why WCP has not received a simple letter with a standard C&D boilerplate. When all said and done, it is up to Banksy or his m a n a g m e n t to take action. Banksy states clearly he is not represented by any galleries, so that would exclude WCP from having any permission too. As all of the authentic Banksy editions sold out a long time ago and there is no more money to eb made from them by Banksy, maybe he misses the old days when he was selling prints for fifty quid to people who appreciated his efforts and seeing people buying the WCP prints gives him a warm feeling inside. I do wonder if Banksy should have set up a clothing line early on with his art on T shirts etc as just looking at the demand worldwide and sales would have made a lot of money for him rather than the fakers.
He would make more money selling various merchandise But may loose a few serious collectors ,can be a bit of a snobby market out there now Only a certain demographic buys prints now .
By wcp selling these it does not effect his market , so no care to banksy .
Yes, that's the reason I don't buy the moral argument about "no permission was given" or "acting against Banksy will". My guess is that some kind of tacit permission has been given to WCP, is the only rational explanation about why WCP has not received a simple letter with a standard C&D boilerplate. When all said and done, it is up to Banksy or his m a n a g m e n t to take action. Banksy states clearly he is not represented by any galleries, so that would exclude WCP from having any permission too. As all of the authentic Banksy editions sold out a long time ago and there is no more money to eb made from them by Banksy, maybe he misses the old days when he was selling prints for fifty quid to people who appreciated his efforts and seeing people buying the WCP prints gives him a warm feeling inside. I do wonder if Banksy should have set up a clothing line early on with his art on T shirts etc as just looking at the demand worldwide and sales would have made a lot of money for him rather than the fakers. He would make more money selling various merchandise But may loose a few serious collectors ,can be a bit of a snobby market out there now Only a certain demographic buys prints now . By wcp selling these it does not effect his market , so no care to banksy .
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moron
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Art Wanted, by moron on Feb 1, 2018 19:34:50 GMT 1, When all said and done, it is up to Banksy or his m a n a g m e n t to take action. Banksy states clearly he is not represented by any galleries, so that would exclude WCP from having any permission too. As all of the authentic Banksy editions sold out a long time ago and there is no more money to eb made from them by Banksy, maybe he misses the old days when he was selling prints for fifty quid to people who appreciated his efforts and seeing people buying the WCP prints gives him a warm feeling inside. I do wonder if Banksy should have set up a clothing line early on with his art on T shirts etc as just looking at the demand worldwide and sales would have made a lot of money for him rather than the fakers. He would make more money selling various merchandise But may loose a few serious collectors ,can be a bit of a snobby market out there now Only a certain demographic buys prints now . By wcp selling these it does not effect his market , so no care to banksy . I think it's a myth that clothing line would put off rich collectors.
I'm sure Banksy doesn't give a hoot about pleasing the mega rich.
When all said and done, it is up to Banksy or his m a n a g m e n t to take action. Banksy states clearly he is not represented by any galleries, so that would exclude WCP from having any permission too. As all of the authentic Banksy editions sold out a long time ago and there is no more money to eb made from them by Banksy, maybe he misses the old days when he was selling prints for fifty quid to people who appreciated his efforts and seeing people buying the WCP prints gives him a warm feeling inside. I do wonder if Banksy should have set up a clothing line early on with his art on T shirts etc as just looking at the demand worldwide and sales would have made a lot of money for him rather than the fakers. He would make more money selling various merchandise But may loose a few serious collectors ,can be a bit of a snobby market out there now Only a certain demographic buys prints now . By wcp selling these it does not effect his market , so no care to banksy . I think it's a myth that clothing line would put off rich collectors. I'm sure Banksy doesn't give a hoot about pleasing the mega rich.
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tab1
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Art Wanted, by tab1 on Feb 1, 2018 20:28:40 GMT 1, He would make more money selling various merchandise But may loose a few serious collectors ,can be a bit of a snobby market out there now Only a certain demographic buys prints now . By wcp selling these it does not effect his market , so no care to banksy . I think it's a myth that clothing line would put off rich collectors. I'm sure Banksy doesn't give a hoot about pleasing the mega rich.
The one thing he stood for has all changed now.
His high auctions and celebrity purchases are orchestrated and released to media via his team to further speculate the market
His new releases are only released to the vip list If he didn’t care would be released openly
Creates pieces only for certain celebrities which filters down .
They want the exclusivity which the rich buy into and want.
Hard to get items always drives the demand no matter the cost.
He probably lives in a £ 5 million mansion now a far distance from when he started .
Majority of his true and original collectors that helped get him to this point now cannot afford to buy in at today’s prices
He would make more money selling various merchandise But may loose a few serious collectors ,can be a bit of a snobby market out there now Only a certain demographic buys prints now . By wcp selling these it does not effect his market , so no care to banksy . I think it's a myth that clothing line would put off rich collectors. I'm sure Banksy doesn't give a hoot about pleasing the mega rich. The one thing he stood for has all changed now. His high auctions and celebrity purchases are orchestrated and released to media via his team to further speculate the market His new releases are only released to the vip list If he didn’t care would be released openly Creates pieces only for certain celebrities which filters down . They want the exclusivity which the rich buy into and want. Hard to get items always drives the demand no matter the cost. He probably lives in a £ 5 million mansion now a far distance from when he started . Majority of his true and original collectors that helped get him to this point now cannot afford to buy in at today’s prices
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Art Wanted, by Oscar Zetaacosta on Feb 5, 2018 21:07:19 GMT 1, I see the Brazilian chap on ebay has massively increased his range of Banksy prints.
I see the Brazilian chap on ebay has massively increased his range of Banksy prints.
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highflyer
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Art Wanted, by highflyer on Feb 5, 2018 21:28:14 GMT 1, I see the Brazilian chap on ebay has massively increased his range of Banksy prints.
Would you have a link to this chap please?
I see the Brazilian chap on ebay has massively increased his range of Banksy prints. Would you have a link to this chap please?
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moron
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Art Wanted, by moron on Feb 5, 2018 21:33:10 GMT 1, I see the Brazilian chap on ebay has massively increased his range of Banksy prints. Would you have a link to this chap please? Plus prints by other artists like Bridget Riley etc.
The Banksy copy screenprints, look awful quality but they do have Banksy stamped on the back. So would look great on any wall during a power cut at midnight.
I see the Brazilian chap on ebay has massively increased his range of Banksy prints. Would you have a link to this chap please? Plus prints by other artists like Bridget Riley etc. The Banksy copy screenprints, look awful quality but they do have Banksy stamped on the back. So would look great on any wall during a power cut at midnight.
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tab1
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Art Wanted, by tab1 on Feb 5, 2018 22:05:41 GMT 1, I see the Brazilian chap on ebay has massively increased his range of Banksy prints.
Banksy other big market outside of uk is America and this chap will appeal to American buyers as cheaper than wcp with Less post and custom charges. Probably other people will set up shop seeing as how many sales wcp has made now and no follow up . The only problem will be others might not print copies on the back?! There’ is even people selling inkjet prints of dolk and pobel now.
I see the Brazilian chap on ebay has massively increased his range of Banksy prints. Banksy other big market outside of uk is America and this chap will appeal to American buyers as cheaper than wcp with Less post and custom charges. Probably other people will set up shop seeing as how many sales wcp has made now and no follow up . The only problem will be others might not print copies on the back?! There’ is even people selling inkjet prints of dolk and pobel now.
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tezpellet
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Art Wanted, by tezpellet on Feb 6, 2018 1:01:13 GMT 1, Looking for cept again and again..... any colourway !!!
Looking for cept again and again..... any colourway !!!
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Wisconinla
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Art Wanted, by Wisconinla on Feb 6, 2018 7:52:36 GMT 1, I think WCP pulled up the stakes and moved on, until next time I assume.
Got this update on my order: “Hi
Your print/prints are on their way.
We take great care in rolling and putting the prints into the tube so please be very careful getting them out.
PLEASE DO NOT PULL THE PRINT/PRINTS BY THEIR CORNER'S.
We carefully check each print for scuffs and marks and none are sent with scuffs and marks.
The black mat ink on some of the prints marks very easy - the originals were the same - so be careful
If you are getting them framed then get the framer to do it - otherwise - gentle tap one end until the kraft paper appears then gently pull the Kraft paper - Not the print.
Make sure there are no burrs on the opening of the tube as they might catch the print.
Cheers
WCP”
I think WCP pulled up the stakes and moved on, until next time I assume.
Got this update on my order: “Hi
Your print/prints are on their way.
We take great care in rolling and putting the prints into the tube so please be very careful getting them out.
PLEASE DO NOT PULL THE PRINT/PRINTS BY THEIR CORNER'S.
We carefully check each print for scuffs and marks and none are sent with scuffs and marks.
The black mat ink on some of the prints marks very easy - the originals were the same - so be careful
If you are getting them framed then get the framer to do it - otherwise - gentle tap one end until the kraft paper appears then gently pull the Kraft paper - Not the print.
Make sure there are no burrs on the opening of the tube as they might catch the print.
Cheers
WCP”
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Art Wanted, by Oscar Zetaacosta on Feb 6, 2018 8:47:41 GMT 1, I see the Brazilian chap on ebay has massively increased his range of Banksy prints. Would you have a link to this chap please?
Not sure how to post links but the seller is called superultrasniper.
I see the Brazilian chap on ebay has massively increased his range of Banksy prints. Would you have a link to this chap please? Not sure how to post links but the seller is called superultrasniper.
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elberto77
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Art Wanted, by elberto77 on Feb 7, 2018 15:06:52 GMT 1, And found so disregard😀👍
And found so disregard😀👍
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Bruno Art 99
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Art Wanted, by Bruno Art 99 on Feb 8, 2018 17:19:14 GMT 1, Anybody had there prints from the last batch on the bay ,I know they are on there way ,bought from them before and seemed a lot quicker then .
Anybody had there prints from the last batch on the bay ,I know they are on there way ,bought from them before and seemed a lot quicker then .
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Art Wanted, by tedtheodorelogan on Feb 9, 2018 4:02:14 GMT 1, i've not received mine yet, but maybe I'll get them tomorrow on...
Friday, Friday!
gotta get prints on Friday
Gunna hang them up at the weekend! - weekend!
Sorry.
i've not received mine yet, but maybe I'll get them tomorrow on...
Friday, Friday!
gotta get prints on Friday
Gunna hang them up at the weekend! - weekend!
Sorry.
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Geezer Mate
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Art Wanted, by Geezer Mate on Feb 9, 2018 9:03:52 GMT 1, He will probably start on some Shrigley’s now
He will probably start on some Shrigley’s now
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Art Wanted, by corticalocelot on Feb 9, 2018 23:08:53 GMT 1, Looking to buy prints by Hua Tunan, especially cats and birds. PM me what you have.
Looking to buy prints by Hua Tunan, especially cats and birds. PM me what you have.
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kideight
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Art Wanted, by kideight on Feb 10, 2018 12:41:52 GMT 1, just received my soup can and grannies
just received my soup can and grannies
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iamzero
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Art Wanted, by iamzero on Feb 10, 2018 13:54:18 GMT 1, just received my soup can and grannies
Any good?
just received my soup can and grannies Any good?
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kideight
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Art Wanted, by kideight on Feb 10, 2018 14:01:22 GMT 1, just received my soup can and grannies Any good? Letting them flatten out bit at the moment. Soup can looks good. The grannies has lost a lot of quality in my opinion though. The black isn't as defined as the original, looks like a low res image trace somewhat.
just received my soup can and grannies Any good? Letting them flatten out bit at the moment. Soup can looks good. The grannies has lost a lot of quality in my opinion though. The black isn't as defined as the original, looks like a low res image trace somewhat.
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kideight
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Art Wanted, by kideight on Feb 10, 2018 14:07:05 GMT 1, For comparison. Not sure if low count Screen was used or too much bleed was applied around all the black? Wouldn't fool any Banksy aficionados but not a bad repro
Original
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For comparison. Not sure if low count Screen was used or too much bleed was applied around all the black? Wouldn't fool any Banksy aficionados but not a bad repro Original WCP
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iamzero
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Art Wanted, by iamzero on Feb 10, 2018 15:35:53 GMT 1, Good to see an actual comparison side by side instead of the usual slating these get.
Good to see an actual comparison side by side instead of the usual slating these get.
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Art Wanted, by Coach on Feb 10, 2018 15:51:29 GMT 1, Good to see an actual comparison side by side instead of the usual slating these get.
They tend to get slated regarding whether it’s ethical or not to reproduce the prints without the artist’s permission, and quality is irrelevant so far as that is concerned, it seems to me.
As for quality, the difference between the original Grannies and the reproduction are fairly significant, in my opinion.
Good to see an actual comparison side by side instead of the usual slating these get. They tend to get slated regarding whether it’s ethical or not to reproduce the prints without the artist’s permission, and quality is irrelevant so far as that is concerned, it seems to me. As for quality, the difference between the original Grannies and the reproduction are fairly significant, in my opinion.
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iamzero
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Art Wanted, by iamzero on Feb 10, 2018 16:03:57 GMT 1, I agree that the difference is noticeable so the chance of anyone passing them off as genuine is unlikely rendering that argument moot.
I agree that the difference is noticeable so the chance of anyone passing them off as genuine is unlikely rendering that argument moot.
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kideight
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Art Wanted, by kideight on Feb 10, 2018 16:12:47 GMT 1, I've only skimmed the pages here but hasn't anyone mentioned the fact Banksy was a bootlegger too?
I've only skimmed the pages here but hasn't anyone mentioned the fact Banksy was a bootlegger too?
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Art Wanted, by Coach on Feb 10, 2018 16:18:43 GMT 1, I agree that the difference is noticeable so the chance of anyone passing them off as genuine is unlikely rendering that argument moot.
A potential buyer is unlikely to have a genuine one with them at the time of purchase, to carry out a comparison. In any event, the chance of them being used to dupe a buyer is not the main ethical argument.
I agree that the difference is noticeable so the chance of anyone passing them off as genuine is unlikely rendering that argument moot. A potential buyer is unlikely to have a genuine one with them at the time of purchase, to carry out a comparison. In any event, the chance of them being used to dupe a buyer is not the main ethical argument.
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iamzero
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Art Wanted, by iamzero on Feb 10, 2018 18:45:26 GMT 1, If you’re looking for ethics then street art probably isn’t the primary concern. Was is ethical for Mission to be selling off back door prints. Or Eine and the POW crew to be rinsing the system by selling shady prints on the early days. Granted things have changed a lot since then but I don’t think ethics got in the way when Banksy was spraypainting on other people’s property way back when.
If you’re looking for ethics then street art probably isn’t the primary concern. Was is ethical for Mission to be selling off back door prints. Or Eine and the POW crew to be rinsing the system by selling shady prints on the early days. Granted things have changed a lot since then but I don’t think ethics got in the way when Banksy was spraypainting on other people’s property way back when.
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Art Wanted, by Coach on Feb 10, 2018 18:49:25 GMT 1, If you’re looking for ethics then street art probably isn’t the primary concern. Was is ethical for Mission to be selling off back door prints. Or Eine and the POW crew to be rinsing the system by selling shady prints on the early days. Granted things have changed a lot since then but I don’t think ethics got in the way when Banksy was spraypainting on other people’s property way back when.
I think ethics are relevant. Most members call foul when someone here tries to sell an invader that has been torn off a wall, or a Banksy gets cut out of a wall to be sold to a bank, rather than be enjoyed by all passing by. I guess it’s just a case of where each of us draws the line.
If you’re looking for ethics then street art probably isn’t the primary concern. Was is ethical for Mission to be selling off back door prints. Or Eine and the POW crew to be rinsing the system by selling shady prints on the early days. Granted things have changed a lot since then but I don’t think ethics got in the way when Banksy was spraypainting on other people’s property way back when. I think ethics are relevant. Most members call foul when someone here tries to sell an invader that has been torn off a wall, or a Banksy gets cut out of a wall to be sold to a bank, rather than be enjoyed by all passing by. I guess it’s just a case of where each of us draws the line.
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iamzero
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Art Wanted, by iamzero on Feb 10, 2018 19:00:32 GMT 1, I think the lines are very blurred and the waters very muddy around these parts.
I think the lines are very blurred and the waters very muddy around these parts.
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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 19:28:54 GMT 1, I've only skimmed the pages here but hasn't anyone mentioned the fact Banksy was a bootlegger too?
tell us all about it
I've only skimmed the pages here but hasn't anyone mentioned the fact Banksy was a bootlegger too? tell us all about it
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