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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by moron on Aug 6, 2018 22:59:26 GMT 1, Regardless, 3D art and prints are a good investment in their own right. The cross over from music, to politics to art is complementary as many artists of the past were political.
I remember when Bob Dylan started touting his art for sale and it was very affordable. Now it's very expensive.
Regardless, 3D art and prints are a good investment in their own right. The cross over from music, to politics to art is complementary as many artists of the past were political.
I remember when Bob Dylan started touting his art for sale and it was very affordable. Now it's very expensive.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 7, 2018 1:20:20 GMT 1, This may be a case of talking about two different things I'm referencing the questions in regards to this post you made daylightrobber said:Do you not wonder, if del Naja genuinely was Banksy, then why haven't all of his 3D pieces, once on POW and now on eBay, along with those still available at other sources, been bought, by those who are in the know? Surely they'd make a great investment at the prices they're available for. That's such a good point, and basically all the evidence needed. In the same way that some people just "knew" to start queuing for Banksy prints, those people would be buying up 3D... And they're not In regards to your current statement in this post on the recent availability I would say that is a sure possibility. However I probably favor the non paying buyer theory as that seems to what eBay has basically become. Either way my main gripe with your post was the above 'why aren't those that know buying the 3d prints' argument. Then I really can't explain it to you any clearer. It's not hard evidence, but it's quite telling... I think we can assume many people know who Banksy really is, but choose to hide it for one reason or another, but mostly because it's not important. People involved early on in the scene, artists, gallery owners, clients at record labels, magazines, anyone who worked with him, friends, family, friends of family. They'd know if 3D was Banksy, and I'd assume would therefore know a good investment when they saw one. But it seems to me no one is hoovering up 3D prints over the years. They've sat unsold on POW and Laz for years and years and still don't sell for much on eBay. I think you also made some point about why Banksy prints sell for Β£30k despite being easily available, but that's just economics! The price of anything is set at the price one person is willing to sell for and another is willing to buy for. Too low and they sell quickly and get resold higher. Too high and they sit unsold until someone's willing to pay that price. That's the game any retailer plays. Banksy's level is several thousands. 3D's level is several hundred. Does that answer your questions?
Not really. Who are these people that know? You make it sound like hundreds maybe thousands know. Is that what you think?
Man you have some great faith in humanity if you think hundreds know and don't settle for a Payday when all they'd have to do is reveal it.
And you think they don't release it because it's not important? That's hilarious because the most important thing about banksys rise to popularity was his anonimity. Now it's not important? You disagree?
Man and to be clear none of my comments on this subject should be interpreted as negative towards banksy the artist. Honestly I give my hats off to him cause he is pulling the wool over his fans eyes if now he has them believing his anonimity isn't important. Wow what a feat by banksy. If his anonimity isn't important why does he stay anonomous? If you only and we're one question in this post can you answer that one for me?
This may be a case of talking about two different things I'm referencing the questions in regards to this post you made daylightrobber said:Do you not wonder, if del Naja genuinely was Banksy, then why haven't all of his 3D pieces, once on POW and now on eBay, along with those still available at other sources, been bought, by those who are in the know? Surely they'd make a great investment at the prices they're available for. That's such a good point, and basically all the evidence needed. In the same way that some people just "knew" to start queuing for Banksy prints, those people would be buying up 3D... And they're not In regards to your current statement in this post on the recent availability I would say that is a sure possibility. However I probably favor the non paying buyer theory as that seems to what eBay has basically become. Either way my main gripe with your post was the above 'why aren't those that know buying the 3d prints' argument. Then I really can't explain it to you any clearer. It's not hard evidence, but it's quite telling... I think we can assume many people know who Banksy really is, but choose to hide it for one reason or another, but mostly because it's not important. People involved early on in the scene, artists, gallery owners, clients at record labels, magazines, anyone who worked with him, friends, family, friends of family. They'd know if 3D was Banksy, and I'd assume would therefore know a good investment when they saw one. But it seems to me no one is hoovering up 3D prints over the years. They've sat unsold on POW and Laz for years and years and still don't sell for much on eBay. I think you also made some point about why Banksy prints sell for Β£30k despite being easily available, but that's just economics! The price of anything is set at the price one person is willing to sell for and another is willing to buy for. Too low and they sell quickly and get resold higher. Too high and they sit unsold until someone's willing to pay that price. That's the game any retailer plays. Banksy's level is several thousands. 3D's level is several hundred. Does that answer your questions? Not really. Who are these people that know? You make it sound like hundreds maybe thousands know. Is that what you think? Man you have some great faith in humanity if you think hundreds know and don't settle for a Payday when all they'd have to do is reveal it. And you think they don't release it because it's not important? That's hilarious because the most important thing about banksys rise to popularity was his anonimity. Now it's not important? You disagree? Man and to be clear none of my comments on this subject should be interpreted as negative towards banksy the artist. Honestly I give my hats off to him cause he is pulling the wool over his fans eyes if now he has them believing his anonimity isn't important. Wow what a feat by banksy. If his anonimity isn't important why does he stay anonomous? If you only and we're one question in this post can you answer that one for me? |
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by nex on Aug 7, 2018 4:42:39 GMT 1, There are many artists who choose to stay out of the limelight, for many reasons, including allowing their work to speak for itself; the myth being more interesting than the person; the media being shit and so on.
Check out Aphex Twin.
There are many artists who choose to stay out of the limelight, for many reasons, including allowing their work to speak for itself; the myth being more interesting than the person; the media being shit and so on.
Check out Aphex Twin.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Happy Shopper on Aug 7, 2018 8:56:50 GMT 1, Then I really can't explain it to you any clearer. It's not hard evidence, but it's quite telling... I think we can assume many people know who Banksy really is, but choose to hide it for one reason or another, but mostly because it's not important. People involved early on in the scene, artists, gallery owners, clients at record labels, magazines, anyone who worked with him, friends, family, friends of family. They'd know if 3D was Banksy, and I'd assume would therefore know a good investment when they saw one. But it seems to me no one is hoovering up 3D prints over the years. They've sat unsold on POW and Laz for years and years and still don't sell for much on eBay. I think you also made some point about why Banksy prints sell for Β£30k despite being easily available, but that's just economics! The price of anything is set at the price one person is willing to sell for and another is willing to buy for. Too low and they sell quickly and get resold higher. Too high and they sit unsold until someone's willing to pay that price. That's the game any retailer plays. Banksy's level is several thousands. 3D's level is several hundred. Does that answer your questions? Not really. Who are these people that know? You make it sound like hundreds maybe thousands know. Is that what you think? Man you have some great faith in humanity if you think hundreds know and don't settle for a Payday when all they'd have to do is reveal it. And you think they don't release it because it's not important? That's hilarious because the most important thing about banksys rise to popularity was his anonimity. Now it's not important? You disagree? Man and to be clear none of my comments on this subject should be interpreted as negative towards banksy the artist. Honestly I give my hats off to him cause he is pulling the wool over his fans eyes if now he has them believing his anonimity isn't important. Wow what a feat by banksy. If his anonimity isn't important why does he stay anonomous? If you only and we're one question in this post can you answer that one for me?
See. Again you get a proper, clear answer and choose to ignore the obvious facts and rant on about some other aspect of what I wrote.
The endless cycle continues.
Banksy has friends and ex work colleagues, unless he's a hermit! Is that what you think?
Do you think no one knows who he is? Because that's the conclusion of what you're saying.
Another little point... I do wonder why none of those people who know him have tried to cash in, especially if Banksy IS celebrity musician 3D. That would be surprising.
Perhaps if Banksy actually is Robin Gunningham that would explain it? No story to tell.
Then I really can't explain it to you any clearer. It's not hard evidence, but it's quite telling... I think we can assume many people know who Banksy really is, but choose to hide it for one reason or another, but mostly because it's not important. People involved early on in the scene, artists, gallery owners, clients at record labels, magazines, anyone who worked with him, friends, family, friends of family. They'd know if 3D was Banksy, and I'd assume would therefore know a good investment when they saw one. But it seems to me no one is hoovering up 3D prints over the years. They've sat unsold on POW and Laz for years and years and still don't sell for much on eBay. I think you also made some point about why Banksy prints sell for Β£30k despite being easily available, but that's just economics! The price of anything is set at the price one person is willing to sell for and another is willing to buy for. Too low and they sell quickly and get resold higher. Too high and they sit unsold until someone's willing to pay that price. That's the game any retailer plays. Banksy's level is several thousands. 3D's level is several hundred. Does that answer your questions? Not really. Who are these people that know? You make it sound like hundreds maybe thousands know. Is that what you think? Man you have some great faith in humanity if you think hundreds know and don't settle for a Payday when all they'd have to do is reveal it. And you think they don't release it because it's not important? That's hilarious because the most important thing about banksys rise to popularity was his anonimity. Now it's not important? You disagree? Man and to be clear none of my comments on this subject should be interpreted as negative towards banksy the artist. Honestly I give my hats off to him cause he is pulling the wool over his fans eyes if now he has them believing his anonimity isn't important. Wow what a feat by banksy. If his anonimity isn't important why does he stay anonomous? If you only and we're one question in this post can you answer that one for me? See. Again you get a proper, clear answer and choose to ignore the obvious facts and rant on about some other aspect of what I wrote. The endless cycle continues. Banksy has friends and ex work colleagues, unless he's a hermit! Is that what you think? Do you think no one knows who he is? Because that's the conclusion of what you're saying. Another little point... I do wonder why none of those people who know him have tried to cash in, especially if Banksy IS celebrity musician 3D. That would be surprising. Perhaps if Banksy actually is Robin Gunningham that would explain it? No story to tell. |
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 7, 2018 12:10:29 GMT 1, Not really. Who are these people that know? You make it sound like hundreds maybe thousands know. Is that what you think? Man you have some great faith in humanity if you think hundreds know and don't settle for a Payday when all they'd have to do is reveal it. And you think they don't release it because it's not important? That's hilarious because the most important thing about banksys rise to popularity was his anonimity. Now it's not important? You disagree? Man and to be clear none of my comments on this subject should be interpreted as negative towards banksy the artist. Honestly I give my hats off to him cause he is pulling the wool over his fans eyes if now he has them believing his anonimity isn't important. Wow what a feat by banksy. If his anonimity isn't important why does he stay anonomous? If you only and we're one question in this post can you answer that one for me? See. Again you get a proper, clear answer and choose to ignore the obvious facts and rant on about some other aspect of what I wrote. The endless cycle continues. Banksy has friends and ex work colleagues, unless he's a hermit! Is that what you think? Do you think no one knows who he is? Because that's the conclusion of what you're saying. Another little point... I do wonder why none of those people who know him have tried to cash in, especially if Banksy IS celebrity musician 3D. That would be surprising. Perhaps if Banksy actually is Robin Gunningham that would explain it? No story to tell.
Confused by the claim I'm ranting on something your wrote. Isn't that the point? To discuss what you wrote?
Of course people know who he is. No where did I write no one knows. Not sure where that's coming from. I'd like to know how many people you think know?
Whether it's 3D gunningham or the trash man the idea that the anonimity isn't important is a bizarre opinion. The identity is valuable no matter who it is so I don't understand that statement. Do you not think the anonimity is important?
Not really. Who are these people that know? You make it sound like hundreds maybe thousands know. Is that what you think? Man you have some great faith in humanity if you think hundreds know and don't settle for a Payday when all they'd have to do is reveal it. And you think they don't release it because it's not important? That's hilarious because the most important thing about banksys rise to popularity was his anonimity. Now it's not important? You disagree? Man and to be clear none of my comments on this subject should be interpreted as negative towards banksy the artist. Honestly I give my hats off to him cause he is pulling the wool over his fans eyes if now he has them believing his anonimity isn't important. Wow what a feat by banksy. If his anonimity isn't important why does he stay anonomous? If you only and we're one question in this post can you answer that one for me? See. Again you get a proper, clear answer and choose to ignore the obvious facts and rant on about some other aspect of what I wrote. The endless cycle continues. Banksy has friends and ex work colleagues, unless he's a hermit! Is that what you think? Do you think no one knows who he is? Because that's the conclusion of what you're saying. Another little point... I do wonder why none of those people who know him have tried to cash in, especially if Banksy IS celebrity musician 3D. That would be surprising. Perhaps if Banksy actually is Robin Gunningham that would explain it? No story to tell. Confused by the claim I'm ranting on something your wrote. Isn't that the point? To discuss what you wrote? Of course people know who he is. No where did I write no one knows. Not sure where that's coming from. I'd like to know how many people you think know? Whether it's 3D gunningham or the trash man the idea that the anonimity isn't important is a bizarre opinion. The identity is valuable no matter who it is so I don't understand that statement. Do you not think the anonimity is important? |
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 7, 2018 12:14:26 GMT 1, There are many artists who choose to stay out of the limelight, for many reasons, including allowing their work to speak for itself; the myth being more interesting than the person; the media beings**t and so on. Check out Aphex Twin.
Are you saying this is true of banksy?
You make a good point about other artists. However it's completely different because their work is speaking for itself. Same can't be said for banksy. Whether it was his doing originally or not the anonimity helped push him to the top and it's a major aspect of brand banksy. Maybe it was the reverse effect in his case and he wished it could have been different. But the reality is what it is.
There are many artists who choose to stay out of the limelight, for many reasons, including allowing their work to speak for itself; the myth being more interesting than the person; the media beings**t and so on. Check out Aphex Twin. Are you saying this is true of banksy? You make a good point about other artists. However it's completely different because their work is speaking for itself. Same can't be said for banksy. Whether it was his doing originally or not the anonimity helped push him to the top and it's a major aspect of brand banksy. Maybe it was the reverse effect in his case and he wished it could have been different. But the reality is what it is. |
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by mojo on Aug 7, 2018 12:30:01 GMT 1, This thread is getting really tedious ....3D should be respected in his own right as an internationally recognized and successful artist. As should Banksy regardless to whether their identity is known or not.
This thread is getting really tedious ....3D should be respected in his own right as an internationally recognized and successful artist. As should Banksy regardless to whether their identity is known or not.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by caruso on Aug 7, 2018 13:04:20 GMT 1, How on earth did this thread take such a crazy turn? Just agree to disagree guys, for at least one of you is right.
How on earth did this thread take such a crazy turn? Just agree to disagree guys, for at least one of you is right.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by met on Aug 7, 2018 13:15:55 GMT 1, Not really. Who are these people that know? You make it sound like hundreds maybe thousands know. Is that what you think? Man you have some great faith in humanity if you think hundreds know and don't settle for a Payday when all they'd have to do is reveal it. And you think they don't release it because it's not important? That's hilarious because the most important thing about banksys rise to popularity was his anonimity. Now it's not important? You disagree? Man and to be clear none of my comments on this subject should be interpreted as negative towards banksy the artist. Honestly I give my hats off to him cause he is pulling the wool over his fans eyes if now he has them believing his anonimity isn't important. Wow what a feat by banksy. If his anonimity isn't important why does he stay anonomous? If you only and we're one question in this post can you answer that one for me? See. Again you get a proper, clear answer and choose to ignore the obvious facts and rant on about some other aspect of what I wrote. The endless cycle continues.Banksy has friends and ex work colleagues, unless he's a hermit! Is that what you think? Do you think no one knows who he is? Because that's the conclusion of what you're saying. Another little point... I do wonder why none of those people who know him have tried to cash in, especially if Banksy IS celebrity musician 3D. That would be surprising. Perhaps if Banksy actually is Robin Gunningham that would explain it? No story to tell.
The following point has been made a number of times. Including by me, such as here, here, and most recently (five months ago) here.
In essence, it's always the same message.
Since repetition can be tiresome, I make the effort of introducing variety to the manner in which the point is expressed. By resorting to humour. Or alternatively to brusqueness. And by appealing to the relevant members' sense of courtesy towards other readers (dare I even say "civic duty").
My ongoing hope is that, one day, the message will eventually stick. For the sake of everybody's mental health.
__________
When accessing this platform, the image of Hannah Simpson's knitted Freddy is an avatar I keep an eye out for, because I enjoy your posts on the whole.
That said, you're also a recidivist contributor to the "endless cycle" you've referred to above.
You perpetuate this cycle β and yet also repeatedly complain about it, as if it were not (at least partly) of your own making.
I would submit that greater potential lies elsewhere for exchanges on the forum that are viewed as more productive.
Not really. Who are these people that know? You make it sound like hundreds maybe thousands know. Is that what you think? Man you have some great faith in humanity if you think hundreds know and don't settle for a Payday when all they'd have to do is reveal it. And you think they don't release it because it's not important? That's hilarious because the most important thing about banksys rise to popularity was his anonimity. Now it's not important? You disagree? Man and to be clear none of my comments on this subject should be interpreted as negative towards banksy the artist. Honestly I give my hats off to him cause he is pulling the wool over his fans eyes if now he has them believing his anonimity isn't important. Wow what a feat by banksy. If his anonimity isn't important why does he stay anonomous? If you only and we're one question in this post can you answer that one for me? See. Again you get a proper, clear answer and choose to ignore the obvious facts and rant on about some other aspect of what I wrote. The endless cycle continues.Banksy has friends and ex work colleagues, unless he's a hermit! Is that what you think? Do you think no one knows who he is? Because that's the conclusion of what you're saying. Another little point... I do wonder why none of those people who know him have tried to cash in, especially if Banksy IS celebrity musician 3D. That would be surprising. Perhaps if Banksy actually is Robin Gunningham that would explain it? No story to tell. The following point has been made a number of times. Including by me, such as here, here, and most recently (five months ago) here. In essence, it's always the same message. Since repetition can be tiresome, I make the effort of introducing variety to the manner in which the point is expressed. By resorting to humour. Or alternatively to brusqueness. And by appealing to the relevant members' sense of courtesy towards other readers (dare I even say "civic duty"). My ongoing hope is that, one day, the message will eventually stick. For the sake of everybody's mental health. __________ When accessing this platform, the image of Hannah Simpson's knitted Freddy is an avatar I keep an eye out for, because I enjoy your posts on the whole. That said, you're also a recidivist contributor to the "endless cycle" you've referred to above. You perpetuate this cycle β and yet also repeatedly complain about it, as if it were not (at least partly) of your own making. I would submit that greater potential lies elsewhere for exchanges on the forum that are viewed as more productive. |
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by trop on Aug 7, 2018 13:56:17 GMT 1, is del naja Italian or Palestinian ?,most refugees changed there names to fit in with local culture ,el naja is a Palestinian name ..del naja could sound Italian.
is del naja Italian or Palestinian ?,most refugees changed there names to fit in with local culture ,el naja is a Palestinian name ..del naja could sound Italian.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Happy Shopper on Aug 7, 2018 14:18:58 GMT 1, See. Again you get a proper, clear answer and choose to ignore the obvious facts and rant on about some other aspect of what I wrote. The endless cycle continues.Banksy has friends and ex work colleagues, unless he's a hermit! Is that what you think? Do you think no one knows who he is? Because that's the conclusion of what you're saying. Another little point... I do wonder why none of those people who know him have tried to cash in, especially if Banksy IS celebrity musician 3D. That would be surprising. Perhaps if Banksy actually is Robin Gunningham that would explain it? No story to tell. The following point has been made a number of times. Including by me, such as here, here, and most recently (five months ago) here. In essence, it's always the same message. Since repetition can be tiresome, I make the effort of introducing variety to the manner in which the point is expressed. By resorting to humour. Or alternatively to brusqueness. And by appealing to the relevant members' sense of courtesy towards other readers (dare I even say "civic duty"). My ongoing hope is that, one day, the message will eventually stick. For the sake of everybody's mental health. __________ When accessing this platform, the image of Hannah Simpson's knitted Freddy is an avatar I keep an eye out for, because I enjoy your posts on the whole. That said, you're also a recidivist contributor to the "endless cycle" you've referred to above. You perpetuate this cycle β and yet also repeatedly complain about it, as if it were not (at least partly) of your own making. I would submit that greater potential lies elsewhere for exchanges on the forum that are viewed as more productive.
You're right. I know it's pointless. 
I try to give thought through answers to the endless questions, but they're never the right answers! ahaha
See. Again you get a proper, clear answer and choose to ignore the obvious facts and rant on about some other aspect of what I wrote. The endless cycle continues.Banksy has friends and ex work colleagues, unless he's a hermit! Is that what you think? Do you think no one knows who he is? Because that's the conclusion of what you're saying. Another little point... I do wonder why none of those people who know him have tried to cash in, especially if Banksy IS celebrity musician 3D. That would be surprising. Perhaps if Banksy actually is Robin Gunningham that would explain it? No story to tell. The following point has been made a number of times. Including by me, such as here, here, and most recently (five months ago) here. In essence, it's always the same message. Since repetition can be tiresome, I make the effort of introducing variety to the manner in which the point is expressed. By resorting to humour. Or alternatively to brusqueness. And by appealing to the relevant members' sense of courtesy towards other readers (dare I even say "civic duty"). My ongoing hope is that, one day, the message will eventually stick. For the sake of everybody's mental health. __________ When accessing this platform, the image of Hannah Simpson's knitted Freddy is an avatar I keep an eye out for, because I enjoy your posts on the whole. That said, you're also a recidivist contributor to the "endless cycle" you've referred to above. You perpetuate this cycle β and yet also repeatedly complain about it, as if it were not (at least partly) of your own making. I would submit that greater potential lies elsewhere for exchanges on the forum that are viewed as more productive. You're right. I know it's pointless. I try to give thought through answers to the endless questions, but they're never the right answers! ahaha |
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 7, 2018 15:44:41 GMT 1, See. Again you get a proper, clear answer and choose to ignore the obvious facts and rant on about some other aspect of what I wrote. The endless cycle continues.Banksy has friends and ex work colleagues, unless he's a hermit! Is that what you think? Do you think no one knows who he is? Because that's the conclusion of what you're saying. Another little point... I do wonder why none of those people who know him have tried to cash in, especially if Banksy IS celebrity musician 3D. That would be surprising. Perhaps if Banksy actually is Robin Gunningham that would explain it? No story to tell. The following point has been made a number of times. Including by me, such as here, here, and most recently (five months ago) here. In essence, it's always the same message. Since repetition can be tiresome, I make the effort of introducing variety to the manner in which the point is expressed. By resorting to humour. Or alternatively to brusqueness. And by appealing to the relevant members' sense of courtesy towards other readers (dare I even say "civic duty"). My ongoing hope is that, one day, the message will eventually stick. For the sake of everybody's mental health. __________ When accessing this platform, the image of Hannah Simpson's knitted Freddy is an avatar I keep an eye out for, because I enjoy your posts on the whole. That said, you're also a recidivist contributor to the "endless cycle" you've referred to above. You perpetuate this cycle β and yet also repeatedly complain about it, as if it were not (at least partly) of your own making. I would submit that greater potential lies elsewhere for exchanges on the forum that are viewed as more productive.
I hope you do realize that your posts on this forum are exact proof of what you are preaching against.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing but the nature of discussion and theory on a subject such as art is inherently a cycle.
I don't understand the arrogance to try and rail against it or make other members feel less adequate or hint they are not allowed to post.
The theory of art is a discussion that will never end.
See. Again you get a proper, clear answer and choose to ignore the obvious facts and rant on about some other aspect of what I wrote. The endless cycle continues.Banksy has friends and ex work colleagues, unless he's a hermit! Is that what you think? Do you think no one knows who he is? Because that's the conclusion of what you're saying. Another little point... I do wonder why none of those people who know him have tried to cash in, especially if Banksy IS celebrity musician 3D. That would be surprising. Perhaps if Banksy actually is Robin Gunningham that would explain it? No story to tell. The following point has been made a number of times. Including by me, such as here, here, and most recently (five months ago) here. In essence, it's always the same message. Since repetition can be tiresome, I make the effort of introducing variety to the manner in which the point is expressed. By resorting to humour. Or alternatively to brusqueness. And by appealing to the relevant members' sense of courtesy towards other readers (dare I even say "civic duty"). My ongoing hope is that, one day, the message will eventually stick. For the sake of everybody's mental health. __________ When accessing this platform, the image of Hannah Simpson's knitted Freddy is an avatar I keep an eye out for, because I enjoy your posts on the whole. That said, you're also a recidivist contributor to the "endless cycle" you've referred to above. You perpetuate this cycle β and yet also repeatedly complain about it, as if it were not (at least partly) of your own making. I would submit that greater potential lies elsewhere for exchanges on the forum that are viewed as more productive. I hope you do realize that your posts on this forum are exact proof of what you are preaching against. I'm not saying it's a bad thing but the nature of discussion and theory on a subject such as art is inherently a cycle. I don't understand the arrogance to try and rail against it or make other members feel less adequate or hint they are not allowed to post. The theory of art is a discussion that will never end. |
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 7, 2018 15:48:51 GMT 1, The following point has been made a number of times. Including by me, such as here, here, and most recently (five months ago) here. In essence, it's always the same message. Since repetition can be tiresome, I make the effort of introducing variety to the manner in which the point is expressed. By resorting to humour. Or alternatively to brusqueness. And by appealing to the relevant members' sense of courtesy towards other readers (dare I even say "civic duty"). My ongoing hope is that, one day, the message will eventually stick. For the sake of everybody's mental health. __________ When accessing this platform, the image of Hannah Simpson's knitted Freddy is an avatar I keep an eye out for, because I enjoy your posts on the whole. That said, you're also a recidivist contributor to the "endless cycle" you've referred to above. You perpetuate this cycle β and yet also repeatedly complain about it, as if it were not (at least partly) of your own making. I would submit that greater potential lies elsewhere for exchanges on the forum that are viewed as more productive. You're right. I know it's pointless. I try to give thought through answers to the endless questions, but they're never the right answers! ahaha
Where did I say your answers were wrong?
The following point has been made a number of times. Including by me, such as here, here, and most recently (five months ago) here. In essence, it's always the same message. Since repetition can be tiresome, I make the effort of introducing variety to the manner in which the point is expressed. By resorting to humour. Or alternatively to brusqueness. And by appealing to the relevant members' sense of courtesy towards other readers (dare I even say "civic duty"). My ongoing hope is that, one day, the message will eventually stick. For the sake of everybody's mental health. __________ When accessing this platform, the image of Hannah Simpson's knitted Freddy is an avatar I keep an eye out for, because I enjoy your posts on the whole. That said, you're also a recidivist contributor to the "endless cycle" you've referred to above. You perpetuate this cycle β and yet also repeatedly complain about it, as if it were not (at least partly) of your own making. I would submit that greater potential lies elsewhere for exchanges on the forum that are viewed as more productive. You're right. I know it's pointless. I try to give thought through answers to the endless questions, but they're never the right answers! ahaha Where did I say your answers were wrong? |
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Whitefish on Aug 7, 2018 15:53:32 GMT 1, Banksy collaborated with Coca-Cola and Mr Brainwash to make this print
Queen (red) 2014
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Banksy collaborated with Coca-Cola and Mr Brainwash to make this print Queen (red) 2014 22in x 22in edition 150 |
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Happy Shopper on Aug 7, 2018 15:54:52 GMT 1, You're right. I know it's pointless. I try to give thought through answers to the endless questions, but they're never the right answers! ahaha Where did I say your answers were wrong?
Another question 
You're right. I know it's pointless. I try to give thought through answers to the endless questions, but they're never the right answers! ahaha Where did I say your answers were wrong? Another question |
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 7, 2018 16:38:50 GMT 1, Where did I say your answers were wrong? Another questionΒ
Why are questions not allowed?
I guess you have no interest in a discussion. Just say it then.
Art history is all about questions so I'm not sure why so many get offended. Questions lead to discussion.
Where did I say your answers were wrong? Another questionΒ Why are questions not allowed? I guess you have no interest in a discussion. Just say it then. Art history is all about questions so I'm not sure why so many get offended. Questions lead to discussion. |
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by jimbofatz on Aug 8, 2018 1:30:24 GMT 1, Go for it.....been up for days.
Surely it should be worth more if it was an original banksy??? Someone has to know the truth and would have bought it by now. Knowing it will skyrocket in value.
He must not be Banksy....
The last Robin Gunningham yearbook with his art in it which was posted on here had no offers and got sold off on ebay for a lousy 300 pounds.
So by the people in the know would scoop it all up logic... you are out 3D, Robin Gunningham.
But the reality is....
3D is BANKSY and Robin Gunningham is an old punk who's brilliant at carrying paint and tape.
Go for it.....been up for days.
Surely it should be worth more if it was an original banksy??? Someone has to know the truth and would have bought it by now. Knowing it will skyrocket in value.
He must not be Banksy....
The last Robin Gunningham yearbook with his art in it which was posted on here had no offers and got sold off on ebay for a lousy 300 pounds.
So by the people in the know would scoop it all up logic... you are out 3D, Robin Gunningham.
But the reality is....
3D is BANKSY and Robin Gunningham is an old punk who's brilliant at carrying paint and tape.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by jimbofatz on Aug 8, 2018 4:49:00 GMT 1, This thread is getting really tedious ....3D should be respected in his own right as an internationally recognized and successful artist. As should Banksy regardless to whether their identity is known or not.
3D is an amazing artist. No one is saying otherwise. Laz who manages his art career and how he's promoted posts pictures of him alluding to him being Banksy. I agree this would be very distracting/poor taste (especially by a manager with such a well known client) and if he wasn't actually involved in banksy-- it would never be tolerated.
That should be enough proof right there.
What's said in this thread who really cares? Its the complete opposite of what Laz/3Ds relationship is --professional and well thought out.
This thread is getting really tedious ....3D should be respected in his own right as an internationally recognized and successful artist. As should Banksy regardless to whether their identity is known or not.
3D is an amazing artist. No one is saying otherwise. Laz who manages his art career and how he's promoted posts pictures of him alluding to him being Banksy. I agree this would be very distracting/poor taste (especially by a manager with such a well known client) and if he wasn't actually involved in banksy-- it would never be tolerated.
That should be enough proof right there.
What's said in this thread who really cares? Its the complete opposite of what Laz/3Ds relationship is --professional and well thought out.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by amsterdam9697 on Aug 8, 2018 5:26:14 GMT 1,
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Carl Cashman on Aug 8, 2018 6:32:49 GMT 1,
Go for it.....been up for days.
Surely it should be worth more if it was an original banksy??? Someone has to know the truth and would have bought it by now. Knowing it will skyrocket in value.
He must not be Banksy....
The last Robin Gunningham yearbook with his art in it which was posted on here had no offers and got sold off on ebay for a lousy 300 pounds.
So by the people in the know would scoop it all up logic... you are out 3D, Robin Gunningham.
But the reality is....
3D is BANKSY and Robin Gunningham is an old punk who's brilliant at carrying paint and tape.
It's not a banksy though is it ? It's a Gunningham from when he was a kid.
AND it's a photocopy, not an actual drawing.
Go for it.....been up for days.
Surely it should be worth more if it was an original banksy??? Someone has to know the truth and would have bought it by now. Knowing it will skyrocket in value.
He must not be Banksy....
The last Robin Gunningham yearbook with his art in it which was posted on here had no offers and got sold off on ebay for a lousy 300 pounds.
So by the people in the know would scoop it all up logic... you are out 3D, Robin Gunningham.
But the reality is....
3D is BANKSY and Robin Gunningham is an old punk who's brilliant at carrying paint and tape.
It's not a banksy though is it ? It's a Gunningham from when he was a kid. AND it's a photocopy, not an actual drawing. |
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by hnkpnk on Aug 8, 2018 10:27:58 GMT 1, Another question Why are questions not allowed? I guess you have no interest in a discussion. Just say it then. Art history is all about questions so I'm not sure why so many get offended. Questions lead to discussion. 
"Sea lioning.
Repeated and relentless questioning, often times after the question has been explained in detail multiple times. The sea lion will insist they are acting perfectly civilly, but they are really just trying to delay you as long as possible and derail the conversion. The name comes from a webcomic frame."
www.muddycolors.com/2017/04/troll-tactics/
Another question Why are questions not allowed? I guess you have no interest in a discussion. Just say it then. Art history is all about questions so I'm not sure why so many get offended. Questions lead to discussion. "Sea lioning. Repeated and relentless questioning, often times after the question has been explained in detail multiple times. The sea lion will insist they are acting perfectly civilly, but they are really just trying to delay you as long as possible and derail the conversion. The name comes from a webcomic frame." www.muddycolors.com/2017/04/troll-tactics/ |
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by caruso on Aug 8, 2018 12:25:40 GMT 1, That was entertaining. Sea lions should really be slandered in private.
That was entertaining. Sea lions should really be slandered in private.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Whitefish on Aug 8, 2018 13:29:05 GMT 1, Banksy collaborated with Coca-Cola and Mr Brainwash to make this print Queen (red) 2014 22in x 22in edition 150
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 8, 2018 14:19:30 GMT 1, Why are questions not allowed? I guess you have no interest in a discussion. Just say it then. Art history is all about questions so I'm not sure why so many get offended. Questions lead to discussion. "Sea lioning. Repeated and relentless questioning, often times after the question has been explained in detail multiple times. The sea lion will insist they are acting perfectly civilly, but they are really just trying to delay you as long as possible and derail the conversion. The name comes from a webcomic frame." www.muddycolors.com/2017/04/troll-tactics/
Where are the answers to my questions?
If it's been discussed previously maybe I missed it. Sorry I haven't read every thread on the forum.
I'm also confused by that comic. There was no answers in the comic for the sea lion so how can the explanation say it was previously explained? However it is a funny comic.
Why are questions not allowed? I guess you have no interest in a discussion. Just say it then. Art history is all about questions so I'm not sure why so many get offended. Questions lead to discussion. "Sea lioning. Repeated and relentless questioning, often times after the question has been explained in detail multiple times. The sea lion will insist they are acting perfectly civilly, but they are really just trying to delay you as long as possible and derail the conversion. The name comes from a webcomic frame." www.muddycolors.com/2017/04/troll-tactics/Where are the answers to my questions? If it's been discussed previously maybe I missed it. Sorry I haven't read every thread on the forum. I'm also confused by that comic. There was no answers in the comic for the sea lion so how can the explanation say it was previously explained? However it is a funny comic. |
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by moron on Aug 8, 2018 23:31:18 GMT 1, "Sea lioning. Repeated and relentless questioning, often times after the question has been explained in detail multiple times. The sea lion will insist they are acting perfectly civilly, but they are really just trying to delay you as long as possible and derail the conversion. The name comes from a webcomic frame." www.muddycolors.com/2017/04/troll-tactics/Where are the answers to my questions? If it's been discussed previously maybe I missed it. Sorry I haven't read every thread on the forum. I'm also confused by that comic. There was no answers in the comic for the sea lion so how can the explanation say it was previously explained? However it is a funny comic.
"Sea lioning. Repeated and relentless questioning, often times after the question has been explained in detail multiple times. The sea lion will insist they are acting perfectly civilly, but they are really just trying to delay you as long as possible and derail the conversion. The name comes from a webcomic frame." www.muddycolors.com/2017/04/troll-tactics/Where are the answers to my questions? If it's been discussed previously maybe I missed it. Sorry I haven't read every thread on the forum. I'm also confused by that comic. There was no answers in the comic for the sea lion so how can the explanation say it was previously explained? However it is a funny comic. |
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by met on Aug 17, 2018 17:40:31 GMT 1, Robert Del Naja is clearly Banksy. I really don't get how anyone can think differently. I would love to have my mind blown and changed at this point....but not likely. One of these days the truth will out, or in some way at least become clear to you, and youβll sorely realise just how much of this short lifeβs all too precious time youβve wasted on your wildly incorrect theory. I hope that time comes for you sooner rather than later.
In a post written last year, I made reference to odd fixations on famous strangers.
The behaviour is easier to understand with young teenagers. They may be infatuated and chatter non-stop about, say, Leif Garrett. Or Limahl. Or Justin Bieber. In those cases, the relevant kids soon get over it. We're usually talking about harmless, temporary phases.
But when the obsessor is an adult, it becomes disconcerting. When 90% of their posts are about the same subject and artist, that makes for uncomfortable reading. To the point where I start feeling vicariously a bit anxious, as if in the presence of a genuine mental health issue.
__________
I share the hope you've expressed for a future realisation by this forum member, regarding the brevity of our time on earth and his incorrect theory.
However, I'm also aware of the psychological barriers to such an awakening. We repeatedly see these types of things. For example, when moon-landing deniers are presented with irrefutable evidence of the Apollo program, along with comprehensive rebuttals to their NASA-hoax claims.
Perhaps a different approach may therefore be more fruitful:
Consider the best-case scenario in the mind of this member. What would it be?
My guess is that it involves managing to convince the world 3D is Banksy.
Leaving reality aside here, let's just assume he finally succeeds. Then what?
Eventually, lying on a deathbed, he'll look back and contemplate the number of years he obsessed over 3D and Banksy in order to prove both were one and the same.
Now query whether, at this point β having actually achieved his ideal outcome β he'll congratulate himself over his time and life well-spent.
Robert Del Naja is clearly Banksy. I really don't get how anyone can think differently. I would love to have my mind blown and changed at this point....but not likely. One of these days the truth will out, or in some way at least become clear to you, and youβll sorely realise just how much of this short lifeβs all too precious time youβve wasted on your wildly incorrect theory. I hope that time comes for you sooner rather than later. In a post written last year, I made reference to odd fixations on famous strangers. The behaviour is easier to understand with young teenagers. They may be infatuated and chatter non-stop about, say, Leif Garrett. Or Limahl. Or Justin Bieber. In those cases, the relevant kids soon get over it. We're usually talking about harmless, temporary phases. But when the obsessor is an adult, it becomes disconcerting. When 90% of their posts are about the same subject and artist, that makes for uncomfortable reading. To the point where I start feeling vicariously a bit anxious, as if in the presence of a genuine mental health issue. __________ I share the hope you've expressed for a future realisation by this forum member, regarding the brevity of our time on earth and his incorrect theory. However, I'm also aware of the psychological barriers to such an awakening. We repeatedly see these types of things. For example, when moon-landing deniers are presented with irrefutable evidence of the Apollo program, along with comprehensive rebuttals to their NASA-hoax claims. Perhaps a different approach may therefore be more fruitful:Consider the best-case scenario in the mind of this member. What would it be? My guess is that it involves managing to convince the world 3 D is Ban ksy. Leaving reality aside here, let's just assume he finally succeeds. Then what? Eventually, lying on a deathbed, he'll look back and contemplate the number of years he obsessed over 3 D and Ban ksy in order to prove both were one and the same. Now query whether, at this point β having actually achieved his ideal outcome β he'll congratulate himself over his time and life well-spent. |
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by caruso on Aug 17, 2018 18:06:41 GMT 1, Some people clearly need therapy.
Some people clearly need therapy.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by jimbofatz on Aug 17, 2018 19:53:47 GMT 1, Dearest MET,
I am well aware of the fact that even though 'best case scenario' and by 'chance' I may actually say some things that turn out to be true I've spouted off more than enough things to discredit myself amongst you weirdos on here. Did you ever think possibly that I am slightly being a parody of you.
You've got 1405 posts and 4 stars on an internet message board. I worry for you.
Plus 3D is Banksy.
Dearest MET,
I am well aware of the fact that even though 'best case scenario' and by 'chance' I may actually say some things that turn out to be true I've spouted off more than enough things to discredit myself amongst you weirdos on here. Did you ever think possibly that I am slightly being a parody of you.
You've got 1405 posts and 4 stars on an internet message board. I worry for you.
Plus 3D is Banksy.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by irl1 on Aug 17, 2018 20:09:59 GMT 1, Dearest MET, I am well aware of the fact that even though 'best case scenario' and by 'chance' I may actually say some things that turn out to be true I've spouted off more than enough things to discredit myself amongst you weirdos on here. Did you ever think possibly that I am slightly being a parody of you. You've got 1405 posts and 4 stars on an internet message board. I worry for you. Plus 3D is Banksy. 
Dearest MET, I am well aware of the fact that even though 'best case scenario' and by 'chance' I may actually say some things that turn out to be true I've spouted off more than enough things to discredit myself amongst you weirdos on here. Did you ever think possibly that I am slightly being a parody of you. You've got 1405 posts and 4 stars on an internet message board. I worry for you. Plus 3D is Banksy. Em, were not all weirdos on here.......... but we do try hard to be |
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 20:29:33 GMT 1, Dearest MET, I am well aware of the fact that even though 'best case scenario' and by 'chance' I may actually say some things that turn out to be true I've spouted off more than enough things to discredit myself amongst you weirdos on here. Did you ever think possibly that I am slightly being a parody of you. You've got 1405 posts and 4 stars on an internet message board. I worry for you. Plus 3D is Banksy.
Let's play post count madness
Dearest MET, I am well aware of the fact that even though 'best case scenario' and by 'chance' I may actually say some things that turn out to be true I've spouted off more than enough things to discredit myself amongst you weirdos on here. Did you ever think possibly that I am slightly being a parody of you. You've got 1405 posts and 4 stars on an internet message board. I worry for you. Plus 3D is Banksy. Let's play post count madness |
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