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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 6, 2018 11:54:54 GMT 1, Can you stop harassing every post I make. Please. I've tried to thoughtfully explain my point in the thread so I don't understand the need to just call me a troll. Why from a forum gaurdian? Your "point" makes no valid points. Just for the sake of clarity... It doesn't matter how many people know 3D is Banksy! If it was true, and just 1 person knew, they'd be buying up all the couple of hundred pound 3D prints because Banksy prints sell for Β£30000 or more! It's very simple and logical I'm starting to wonder if this whole thread is just a way to attract attention to certain eBay listings.
This makes no sense.
So now you are telling me the people that know want his identity exposed? Otherwise why would they buy 3D prints? Only way 3D prints rise in price is if his identity gets confirmed with full proof and acceptance - which it never will. Banksy could post his identity ok his Instagram and people wouldn't believe it. Saying it's just a work of art or something to troll the art world.
Can you stop harassing every post I make. Please. I've tried to thoughtfully explain my point in the thread so I don't understand the need to just call me a troll. Why from a forum gaurdian? Your "point" makes no valid points. Just for the sake of clarity... It doesn't matter how many people know 3D is Banksy! If it was true, and just 1 person knew, they'd be buying up all the couple of hundred pound 3D prints because Banksy prints sell for Β£30000 or more! It's very simple and logical I'm starting to wonder if this whole thread is just a way to attract attention to certain eBay listings. This makes no sense. So now you are telling me the people that know want his identity exposed? Otherwise why would they buy 3D prints? Only way 3D prints rise in price is if his identity gets confirmed with full proof and acceptance - which it never will. Banksy could post his identity ok his Instagram and people wouldn't believe it. Saying it's just a work of art or something to troll the art world.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Daylight Robber on Aug 6, 2018 12:02:12 GMT 1, Your "point" makes no valid points. Just for the sake of clarity... It doesn't matter how many people know 3D is Banksy! If it was true, and just 1 person knew, they'd be buying up all the couple of hundred pound 3D prints because Banksy prints sell for Β£30000 or more! It's very simple and logical I'm starting to wonder if this whole thread is just a way to attract attention to certain eBay listings. This makes no sense. So now you are telling me the people that know want his identity exposed? Otherwise why would they buy 3D prints? Only way 3D prints rise in price is if his identity gets confirmed with full proof and acceptance - which it never will. Banksy could post his identity ok his Instagram and people wouldn't believe it. Saying it's just a work of art or something to troll the art world. Never? Never ever? Do you think it'll be a secret that goes to the grave?
Your "point" makes no valid points. Just for the sake of clarity... It doesn't matter how many people know 3D is Banksy! If it was true, and just 1 person knew, they'd be buying up all the couple of hundred pound 3D prints because Banksy prints sell for Β£30000 or more! It's very simple and logical I'm starting to wonder if this whole thread is just a way to attract attention to certain eBay listings. This makes no sense. So now you are telling me the people that know want his identity exposed? Otherwise why would they buy 3D prints? Only way 3D prints rise in price is if his identity gets confirmed with full proof and acceptance - which it never will. Banksy could post his identity ok his Instagram and people wouldn't believe it. Saying it's just a work of art or something to troll the art world. Never? Never ever? Do you think it'll be a secret that goes to the grave?
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by caruso on Aug 6, 2018 12:14:40 GMT 1, You know what, that made me laugh but it is actually a good point, Banksy could post his identity on his IG and people would refute it and claim it's been hacked.
On a serious note, if - and only IF - 3D turned out to be Banksy, his 600 ed print would NEVER reach 30K. You guys seriously need to have a look at the current Banksy market value.
I for one would rather invest in lower editions, much more likely to retain value or spike, even if 3D is 'only' 3D, he is in my opinion undervalued today. And no I do not have anything to sell on eBay.
You know what, that made me laugh but it is actually a good point, Banksy could post his identity on his IG and people would refute it and claim it's been hacked.
On a serious note, if - and only IF - 3D turned out to be Banksy, his 600 ed print would NEVER reach 30K. You guys seriously need to have a look at the current Banksy market value.
I for one would rather invest in lower editions, much more likely to retain value or spike, even if 3D is 'only' 3D, he is in my opinion undervalued today. And no I do not have anything to sell on eBay.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 6, 2018 14:23:19 GMT 1, This makes no sense. So now you are telling me the people that know want his identity exposed? Otherwise why would they buy 3D prints? Only way 3D prints rise in price is if his identity gets confirmed with full proof and acceptance - which it never will. Banksy could post his identity ok his Instagram and people wouldn't believe it. Saying it's just a work of art or something to troll the art world. Never? Never ever? Do you think it'll be a secret that goes to the grave?
Like I said. Banksy could come out and release his identity. Half the fans wouldn't accept it. The others would say it doesn't matter. Both would say it only makes the banksy art they own double in price.
This makes no sense. So now you are telling me the people that know want his identity exposed? Otherwise why would they buy 3D prints? Only way 3D prints rise in price is if his identity gets confirmed with full proof and acceptance - which it never will. Banksy could post his identity ok his Instagram and people wouldn't believe it. Saying it's just a work of art or something to troll the art world. Never? Never ever? Do you think it'll be a secret that goes to the grave? Like I said. Banksy could come out and release his identity. Half the fans wouldn't accept it. The others would say it doesn't matter. Both would say it only makes the banksy art they own double in price.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by moron on Aug 6, 2018 16:36:53 GMT 1, If anyone out there is sure 3D is Banksy, you're welcome to make me an offer on this signed book. Who is Keg Biopral Koolnak?
If anyone out there is sure 3D is Banksy, you're welcome to make me an offer on this signed book. Who is Keg Biopral Koolnak?
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by moron on Aug 6, 2018 16:41:09 GMT 1, For someone that has followed these on eBay. I will confirm that many 'sell' but then another is listed with same photos and description. I would say that one reason for that is because often 50% of bidders or buyers on certain items refuse to follow through and actually pay for the item. With ebay policies only protecting buyers, the only thing sellers can do is file an unpaid item claim to get back their ebay fees and block the buyer from bidding in the future. Often sellers don't even bother filing an unpaid item claim and put it down to one aspect of selling on ebay.
For someone that has followed these on eBay. I will confirm that many 'sell' but then another is listed with same photos and description. I would say that one reason for that is because often 50% of bidders or buyers on certain items refuse to follow through and actually pay for the item. With ebay policies only protecting buyers, the only thing sellers can do is file an unpaid item claim to get back their ebay fees and block the buyer from bidding in the future. Often sellers don't even bother filing an unpaid item claim and put it down to one aspect of selling on ebay.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by moron on Aug 6, 2018 16:44:03 GMT 1, It really doesn't matter who he is, and if it turned out to be 3D, it wouldn't make his work rocket in value anyway. Beatles memorabilia is valuable, Paul McCartney and the frog chorus, less so
This is actually a pretty interesting point/scenario and worth a mention. In music when a group splits and members go solo...absolutely 9 out of 10 times its a disaster. But in the art world it works in the complete opposite way. Usually its a scene and when a leader of a movement/project or a member gets singled out....it becomes a rocket ship to the moon. The fine art blue chip world rarely elevates groups it doesn't fit the set in stone fine art mold of A singular genius. This is why there were no mentions of crews or groups in exit through the gift shop even though crews are predominate in the sub culture of street art. You always have to elevate A singular artist in the fine art world that is attached to a movement/project/movie etc. So once banksy splits/is revealed logic would tell you someone is going to get the push...
Not all banksy's are created equal hopefully you at very least got a Ringo because there's been a lot more than 4 people involved.
Spandau Ballet too. Tony Hadley for example.
It really doesn't matter who he is, and if it turned out to be 3D, it wouldn't make his work rocket in value anyway. Beatles memorabilia is valuable, Paul McCartney and the frog chorus, less so
This is actually a pretty interesting point/scenario and worth a mention. In music when a group splits and members go solo...absolutely 9 out of 10 times its a disaster. But in the art world it works in the complete opposite way. Usually its a scene and when a leader of a movement/project or a member gets singled out....it becomes a rocket ship to the moon. The fine art blue chip world rarely elevates groups it doesn't fit the set in stone fine art mold of A singular genius. This is why there were no mentions of crews or groups in exit through the gift shop even though crews are predominate in the sub culture of street art. You always have to elevate A singular artist in the fine art world that is attached to a movement/project/movie etc. So once banksy splits/is revealed logic would tell you someone is going to get the push...
Not all banksy's are created equal hopefully you at very least got a Ringo because there's been a lot more than 4 people involved.
Spandau Ballet too. Tony Hadley for example.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Carl Cashman on Aug 6, 2018 16:44:09 GMT 1, If anyone out there is sure 3D is Banksy, you're welcome to make me an offer on this signed book. Who is Keg Biopral Koolnak? π keep inspired cash man
If anyone out there is sure 3D is Banksy, you're welcome to make me an offer on this signed book. Who is Keg Biopral Koolnak? π keep inspired cash man
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by moron on Aug 6, 2018 16:46:57 GMT 1, I do hope you're just trolling... The point is easy to understand. The point that those in the know aren't buying 3D prints? Honestly I'm not sure what substance there is to that 'point'. A similar point would be Banksy isnt a great artist because if his works we're really timeless treasures of the art world people would be buying them whenever available. But look banksy prints are available to anyone who wants one. π€π€π€π€ I am interested in you explaining how many people actually know and who they are? Wouldn't those that know not want his identity exposed? If it never gets exposed then why would they buy 3d prints? Like I said your point isnt thinking any of it through. If it's a shot of a comment from the hip that's fine but to say it's the deciding fact that 3D isn't banksy is terrible conclusion drawing. That's my point in this discussion. Everyone overthibkibg the flaws in Jimbo conclusion yet the 3d isn't banksy argument with no evidence or thoughtful comments is just expected to hold true and be accepted as fact... Banksy never set out to be a great artist. His art was designed to get media attention and appeal to the people who have two minute attention spans. Hence repetition of rats and simple subjects, snorting coppers shit like that. It's just lots of marketing behind it.
I do hope you're just trolling... The point is easy to understand. The point that those in the know aren't buying 3D prints? Honestly I'm not sure what substance there is to that 'point'. A similar point would be Banksy isnt a great artist because if his works we're really timeless treasures of the art world people would be buying them whenever available. But look banksy prints are available to anyone who wants one. π€π€π€π€ I am interested in you explaining how many people actually know and who they are? Wouldn't those that know not want his identity exposed? If it never gets exposed then why would they buy 3d prints? Like I said your point isnt thinking any of it through. If it's a shot of a comment from the hip that's fine but to say it's the deciding fact that 3D isn't banksy is terrible conclusion drawing. That's my point in this discussion. Everyone overthibkibg the flaws in Jimbo conclusion yet the 3d isn't banksy argument with no evidence or thoughtful comments is just expected to hold true and be accepted as fact... Banksy never set out to be a great artist. His art was designed to get media attention and appeal to the people who have two minute attention spans. Hence repetition of rats and simple subjects, snorting coppers shit like that. It's just lots of marketing behind it.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by moron on Aug 6, 2018 16:52:22 GMT 1, ... it's murrke ... of course he is ... Can you stop harassing every post I make. Please. I've tried to thoughtfully explain my point in the thread so I don't understand the need to just call me a troll. Why from a forum gaurdian? I enjoy your posts Rouen Cat,
Some people just follow the herd so attack some on here without thinking. I don't know if the little dwarf spitting on and hitting and threatening women teeny bopper pop singer Dappy Constantinople is an inspiration or role model for some on here but I for one know that it takes all sorts.
I agree the harassing and attacks can be wearing and shows a form of weak mindedness by the people doing it. It's a forum, your viws are as valid as some of the heavyweight serious types who stroke their chin and feel intellectual superiority when in reality it's all an illusion.
... it's murrke ... of course he is ... Can you stop harassing every post I make. Please. I've tried to thoughtfully explain my point in the thread so I don't understand the need to just call me a troll. Why from a forum gaurdian? I enjoy your posts Rouen Cat, Some people just follow the herd so attack some on here without thinking. I don't know if the little dwarf spitting on and hitting and threatening women teeny bopper pop singer Dappy Constantinople is an inspiration or role model for some on here but I for one know that it takes all sorts. I agree the harassing and attacks can be wearing and shows a form of weak mindedness by the people doing it. It's a forum, your viws are as valid as some of the heavyweight serious types who stroke their chin and feel intellectual superiority when in reality it's all an illusion.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by moron on Aug 6, 2018 16:57:10 GMT 1, Never? Never ever? Do you think it'll be a secret that goes to the grave? Like I said. Banksy could come out and release his identity. Half the fans wouldn't accept it. The others would say it doesn't matter. Both would say it only makes the banksy art they own double in price. What if 3D used to be Banksy and for some reason or other someone took over from 3D and what if the person used to be Banksy who took over from 3D is an Australian and what if there is more banksy meaning 3D is Banksy but also the Australian and one or two others are also Banksy.
londondada.art/2014/10/10/new-banksy-scoop-19535461/
Never? Never ever? Do you think it'll be a secret that goes to the grave? Like I said. Banksy could come out and release his identity. Half the fans wouldn't accept it. The others would say it doesn't matter. Both would say it only makes the banksy art they own double in price. What if 3D used to be Banksy and for some reason or other someone took over from 3D and what if the person used to be Banksy who took over from 3D is an Australian and what if there is more banksy meaning 3D is Banksy but also the Australian and one or two others are also Banksy. londondada.art/2014/10/10/new-banksy-scoop-19535461/
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Happy Shopper on Aug 6, 2018 17:01:22 GMT 1, Can you stop harassing every post I make. Please. I've tried to thoughtfully explain my point in the thread so I don't understand the need to just call me a troll. Why from a forum gaurdian? I enjoy your posts Rouen Cat, Some people just follow the herd so attack some on here without thinking. I don't know if the little dwarf spitting on and hitting and threatening women teeny bopper pop singer Dappy Constantinople is an inspiration or role model for some on here but I for one know that it takes all sorts. I agree the harassing and attacks can be wearing and shows a form of weak mindedness by the people doing it. It's a forum, your viws are as valid as some of the heavyweight serious types who stroke their chin and feel intellectual superiority when in reality it's all an illusion. You 2 (possibly 3) have to be the same person with multiple accounts! Forget "Is 3D Banksy?". Is Moron, Rouen, Jimbo, Ploppi, badnews420 the same person?
Can you stop harassing every post I make. Please. I've tried to thoughtfully explain my point in the thread so I don't understand the need to just call me a troll. Why from a forum gaurdian? I enjoy your posts Rouen Cat, Some people just follow the herd so attack some on here without thinking. I don't know if the little dwarf spitting on and hitting and threatening women teeny bopper pop singer Dappy Constantinople is an inspiration or role model for some on here but I for one know that it takes all sorts. I agree the harassing and attacks can be wearing and shows a form of weak mindedness by the people doing it. It's a forum, your viws are as valid as some of the heavyweight serious types who stroke their chin and feel intellectual superiority when in reality it's all an illusion. You 2 (possibly 3) have to be the same person with multiple accounts! Forget "Is 3D Banksy?". Is Moron, Rouen, Jimbo, Ploppi, badnews420 the same person?
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by moron on Aug 6, 2018 17:05:21 GMT 1, I enjoy your posts Rouen Cat, Some people just follow the herd so attack some on here without thinking. I don't know if the little dwarf spitting on and hitting and threatening women teeny bopper pop singer Dappy Constantinople is an inspiration or role model for some on here but I for one know that it takes all sorts. I agree the harassing and attacks can be wearing and shows a form of weak mindedness by the people doing it. It's a forum, your viws are as valid as some of the heavyweight serious types who stroke their chin and feel intellectual superiority when in reality it's all an illusion. You 2 (possibly 3) have to be the same person with multiple accounts! Forget "Is 3D Banksy?", is "Moron, Rouen, Jimbo, Ploppi, badnews420 the same person?" You are clearly suffering from some form of forum induced paranoia.
It is a medical condition and treatments are available on the POW website.
I enjoy your posts Rouen Cat, Some people just follow the herd so attack some on here without thinking. I don't know if the little dwarf spitting on and hitting and threatening women teeny bopper pop singer Dappy Constantinople is an inspiration or role model for some on here but I for one know that it takes all sorts. I agree the harassing and attacks can be wearing and shows a form of weak mindedness by the people doing it. It's a forum, your viws are as valid as some of the heavyweight serious types who stroke their chin and feel intellectual superiority when in reality it's all an illusion. You 2 (possibly 3) have to be the same person with multiple accounts! Forget "Is 3D Banksy?", is "Moron, Rouen, Jimbo, Ploppi, badnews420 the same person?" You are clearly suffering from some form of forum induced paranoia. It is a medical condition and treatments are available on the POW website.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Happy Shopper on Aug 6, 2018 17:08:15 GMT 1, You 2 (possibly 3) have to be the same person with multiple accounts! Forget "Is 3D Banksy?", is "Moron, Rouen, Jimbo, Ploppi, badnews420 the same person?" You are clearly suffering from some form of forum induced paranoia. It is a medical condition and treatments are available on the POW website. Probably just a coincidence that you all post about hating the same thing, the same obsessive questioning, and never contribute anything positive.
You 2 (possibly 3) have to be the same person with multiple accounts! Forget "Is 3D Banksy?", is "Moron, Rouen, Jimbo, Ploppi, badnews420 the same person?" You are clearly suffering from some form of forum induced paranoia. It is a medical condition and treatments are available on the POW website. Probably just a coincidence that you all post about hating the same thing, the same obsessive questioning, and never contribute anything positive.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by moron on Aug 6, 2018 17:14:35 GMT 1, You are clearly suffering from some form of forum induced paranoia. It is a medical condition and treatments are available on the POW website. Probably just a coincidence that you all post about hating the same thing, the same obsessive questioning, and never contribute anything positive. Rub the affected area with a Banksy print. It's very soothing.
You are clearly suffering from some form of forum induced paranoia. It is a medical condition and treatments are available on the POW website. Probably just a coincidence that you all post about hating the same thing, the same obsessive questioning, and never contribute anything positive. Rub the affected area with a Banksy print. It's very soothing.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 6, 2018 17:32:26 GMT 1, I enjoy your posts Rouen Cat,Β Β Β Some people just follow the herd so attack some on here without thinking. I don't know if the little dwarf spitting on and hitting and threatening women teeny bopper pop singer Dappy Constantinople is an inspiration or role model for some on here but I for one know that it takes all sorts. I agree the harassing and attacks can be wearing and shows a form of weak mindedness by the people doing it. Β It's a forum, your viws are as valid as some of the heavyweight serious types who stroke their chin and feel intellectual superiority when in reality it's all an illusion. You 2 (possibly 3) have to be the same person with multiple accounts! Forget "Is 3D Banksy?". Is Moron, Rouen, Jimbo, Ploppi, badnews420 the same person?
Any I'm the one accused of trolling...
Why are you ignoring the actual posts on topic. The countless questions that relate to the subject.
If you want to ignore them or not think deeper then fine. But why continue to post if you don't want a discussion?
I enjoy your posts Rouen Cat,Β Β Β Some people just follow the herd so attack some on here without thinking. I don't know if the little dwarf spitting on and hitting and threatening women teeny bopper pop singer Dappy Constantinople is an inspiration or role model for some on here but I for one know that it takes all sorts. I agree the harassing and attacks can be wearing and shows a form of weak mindedness by the people doing it. Β It's a forum, your viws are as valid as some of the heavyweight serious types who stroke their chin and feel intellectual superiority when in reality it's all an illusion. You 2 (possibly 3) have to be the same person with multiple accounts! Forget "Is 3D Banksy?". Is Moron, Rouen, Jimbo, Ploppi, badnews420 the same person? Any I'm the one accused of trolling... Why are you ignoring the actual posts on topic. The countless questions that relate to the subject. If you want to ignore them or not think deeper then fine. But why continue to post if you don't want a discussion?
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 18:21:14 GMT 1, You 2 (possibly 3) have to be the same person with multiple accounts! Forget "Is 3D Banksy?". Is Moron, Rouen, Jimbo, Ploppi, badnews420 the same person? Any I'm the one accused of trolling... Why are you ignoring the actual posts on topic. The countless questions that relate to the subject. If you want to ignore them or not think deeper then fine. But why continue to post if you don't want a discussion?
Think deeper? Will that help change 3D into Banksy?
Do you guys honestly think he is?
And why do you want to know who he is anyway?
Isnt it fun the way it is?
You 2 (possibly 3) have to be the same person with multiple accounts! Forget "Is 3D Banksy?". Is Moron, Rouen, Jimbo, Ploppi, badnews420 the same person? Any I'm the one accused of trolling... Why are you ignoring the actual posts on topic. The countless questions that relate to the subject. If you want to ignore them or not think deeper then fine. But why continue to post if you don't want a discussion? Think deeper? Will that help change 3D into Banksy? Do you guys honestly think he is? And why do you want to know who he is anyway? Isnt it fun the way it is?
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Happy Shopper on Aug 6, 2018 18:48:51 GMT 1, You 2 (possibly 3) have to be the same person with multiple accounts! Forget "Is 3D Banksy?". Is Moron, Rouen, Jimbo, Ploppi, badnews420 the same person? Any I'm the one accused of trolling... Why are you ignoring the actual posts on topic. The countless questions that relate to the subject. If you want to ignore them or not think deeper then fine. But why continue to post if you don't want a discussion?
Ah, yes. I forgot the other things you all do... Ignore the answers, ask another question, play the victim.
Why is it all these accounts act in the same way?
I'd love to know what the "posts on topic" are by the way!?
You 2 (possibly 3) have to be the same person with multiple accounts! Forget "Is 3D Banksy?". Is Moron, Rouen, Jimbo, Ploppi, badnews420 the same person? Any I'm the one accused of trolling... Why are you ignoring the actual posts on topic. The countless questions that relate to the subject. If you want to ignore them or not think deeper then fine. But why continue to post if you don't want a discussion? Ah, yes. I forgot the other things you all do... Ignore the answers, ask another question, play the victim. Why is it all these accounts act in the same way? I'd love to know what the "posts on topic" are by the way!?
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 6, 2018 20:22:56 GMT 1, Any I'm the one accused of trolling... Why are you ignoring the actual posts on topic. The countless questions that relate to the subject. If you want to ignore them or not think deeper then fine. But why continue to post if you don't want a discussion? Think deeper? Will that help change 3D into Banksy? Do you guys honestly think he is? And why do you want to know who he is anyway? Isnt it fun the way it is?
Where did I say thinking deeper will change 3D into banksy?
My posts are in regards to challenging simplistic thinking. Whether it's hoppychopper simplistic anaylsis of undsold 3D prints or cashmans quotes book from 3D and taking that as proof.
And no I don't think 3D in Banksy alone. I find it hard to believe anyone can honestly believe he's one person.
Any I'm the one accused of trolling... Why are you ignoring the actual posts on topic. The countless questions that relate to the subject. If you want to ignore them or not think deeper then fine. But why continue to post if you don't want a discussion? Think deeper? Will that help change 3D into Banksy? Do you guys honestly think he is? And why do you want to know who he is anyway? Isnt it fun the way it is? Where did I say thinking deeper will change 3D into banksy? My posts are in regards to challenging simplistic thinking. Whether it's hoppychopper simplistic anaylsis of undsold 3D prints or cashmans quotes book from 3D and taking that as proof. And no I don't think 3D in Banksy alone. I find it hard to believe anyone can honestly believe he's one person.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 6, 2018 20:27:27 GMT 1, Any I'm the one accused of trolling... Why are you ignoring the actual posts on topic. The countless questions that relate to the subject. If you want to ignore them or not think deeper then fine. But why continue to post if you don't want a discussion? Ah, yes. I forgot the other things you all do... Ignore the answers, ask another question, play the victim. Why is it all these accounts act in the same way? I'd love to know what the "posts on topic" are by the way!?
Ignore the answers? What answers have you provided?
You made a statement about eBay sales proving 3D isn't banksy and I clearly explained how that conclusion making is rubbish and a very simplistic thought. And now you go on the troll attack. Interesting ...
So I'm assuming you don't actually want to discuss the topic cause you sure railroaded it once I started pointing out the simplistic analysis of the prints on eBay being available. Feel free to respond with your thinking on that if you care to actually discuss the topic. I'd love to hear the reasoning behind it. That's all I'm trying to understand with my questions that you've continued to ignore..
Any I'm the one accused of trolling... Why are you ignoring the actual posts on topic. The countless questions that relate to the subject. If you want to ignore them or not think deeper then fine. But why continue to post if you don't want a discussion? Ah, yes. I forgot the other things you all do... Ignore the answers, ask another question, play the victim. Why is it all these accounts act in the same way? I'd love to know what the "posts on topic" are by the way!? Ignore the answers? What answers have you provided? You made a statement about eBay sales proving 3D isn't banksy and I clearly explained how that conclusion making is rubbish and a very simplistic thought. And now you go on the troll attack. Interesting ... So I'm assuming you don't actually want to discuss the topic cause you sure railroaded it once I started pointing out the simplistic analysis of the prints on eBay being available. Feel free to respond with your thinking on that if you care to actually discuss the topic. I'd love to hear the reasoning behind it. That's all I'm trying to understand with my questions that you've continued to ignore..
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 20:53:52 GMT 1, Think deeper? Will that help change 3D into Banksy? Do you guys honestly think he is? And why do you want to know who he is anyway? Isnt it fun the way it is? Where did I say thinking deeper will change 3D into banksy? My posts are in regards to challenging simplistic thinking. Whether it's hoppychopper simplistic anaylsis of undsold 3D prints or cashmans quotes book from 3D and taking that as proof. And no I don't think 3D in Banksy alone. I find it hard to believe anyone can honestly believe he's one person.
Do you think he started as banksy? Or was he part of a collective
Think deeper? Will that help change 3D into Banksy? Do you guys honestly think he is? And why do you want to know who he is anyway? Isnt it fun the way it is? Where did I say thinking deeper will change 3D into banksy? My posts are in regards to challenging simplistic thinking. Whether it's hoppychopper simplistic anaylsis of undsold 3D prints or cashmans quotes book from 3D and taking that as proof. And no I don't think 3D in Banksy alone. I find it hard to believe anyone can honestly believe he's one person. Do you think he started as banksy? Or was he part of a collective
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Happy Shopper on Aug 6, 2018 21:02:36 GMT 1, Ah, yes. I forgot the other things you all do... Ignore the answers, ask another question, play the victim. Why is it all these accounts act in the same way? I'd love to know what the "posts on topic" are by the way!? Ignore the answers? What answers have you provided? You made a statement about eBay sales proving 3D isn't banksy and I clearly explained how that conclusion making is rubbish and a very simplistic thought. And now you go on the troll attack. Interesting ... So I'm assuming you don't actually want to discuss the topic cause you sure railroaded it once I started pointing out the simplistic analysis of the prints on eBay being available. Feel free to respond with your thinking on that if you care to actually discuss the topic. I'd love to hear the reasoning behind it. That's all I'm trying to understand with my questions that you've continued to ignore..
I did answer you a while back, which you ignored. It's quite obvious. A few people bought a lot of prints when they were cheap, just as 3D rumours were starting, and now they have many multiples to sell. Seems like a straight forward and logical explaination for multiple sales with the same pictures and deception. What's your theory?
Ah, yes. I forgot the other things you all do... Ignore the answers, ask another question, play the victim. Why is it all these accounts act in the same way? I'd love to know what the "posts on topic" are by the way!? Ignore the answers? What answers have you provided? You made a statement about eBay sales proving 3D isn't banksy and I clearly explained how that conclusion making is rubbish and a very simplistic thought. And now you go on the troll attack. Interesting ... So I'm assuming you don't actually want to discuss the topic cause you sure railroaded it once I started pointing out the simplistic analysis of the prints on eBay being available. Feel free to respond with your thinking on that if you care to actually discuss the topic. I'd love to hear the reasoning behind it. That's all I'm trying to understand with my questions that you've continued to ignore.. I did answer you a while back, which you ignored. It's quite obvious. A few people bought a lot of prints when they were cheap, just as 3D rumours were starting, and now they have many multiples to sell. Seems like a straight forward and logical explaination for multiple sales with the same pictures and deception. What's your theory?
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 6, 2018 21:03:16 GMT 1, Where did I say thinking deeper will change 3D into banksy? My posts are in regards to challenging simplistic thinking. Whether it's hoppychopper simplistic anaylsis of undsold 3D prints or cashmans quotes book from 3D and taking that as proof. And no I don't think 3D in Banksy alone. I find it hard to believe anyone can honestly believe he's one person. Do you think he started as banksy? Or was he part of a collective
At one time it's very possible there was one person.
Early banksy could easily have been one person with a couple helping out after a while.
Late banksy not so much in my opinion.
And I think it's very shortsighted to say that because banksy may have started as one person now everything that is released as by banksy I and should be attributed to that one person.
Where did I say thinking deeper will change 3D into banksy? My posts are in regards to challenging simplistic thinking. Whether it's hoppychopper simplistic anaylsis of undsold 3D prints or cashmans quotes book from 3D and taking that as proof. And no I don't think 3D in Banksy alone. I find it hard to believe anyone can honestly believe he's one person. Do you think he started as banksy? Or was he part of a collective At one time it's very possible there was one person. Early banksy could easily have been one person with a couple helping out after a while. Late banksy not so much in my opinion. And I think it's very shortsighted to say that because banksy may have started as one person now everything that is released as by banksy I and should be attributed to that one person.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 6, 2018 21:07:56 GMT 1, Ignore the answers? What answers have you provided? You made a statement about eBay sales proving 3D isn't banksy and I clearly explained how that conclusion making is rubbish and a very simplistic thought. And now you go on the troll attack. Interesting ... So I'm assuming you don't actually want to discuss the topic cause you sure railroaded it once I started pointing out the simplistic analysis of the prints on eBay being available. Feel free to respond with your thinking on that if you care to actually discuss the topic. I'd love to hear the reasoning behind it. That's all I'm trying to understand with my questions that you've continued to ignore.. I did answer you a while back, which you ignored. It's quite obvious. A few people bought a lot of prints when they were cheap, just as 3D rumours were starting, and now they have many multiples to sell. Seems like a straight forward and logical explaination for multiple sales with the same pictures and deception. What's your theory?
This may be a case of talking about two different things I'm referencing the questions in regards to this post you made
daylightrobber said:Do you not wonder, if del Naja genuinely was Banksy, then why haven't all of his 3D pieces, once on POW and now on eBay, along with those still available at other sources, been bought, by those who are in the know? Surely they'd make a great investment at the prices they're available for.
That's such a good point, and basically all the evidence needed.
In the same way that some people just "knew" to start queuing for Banksy prints, those people would be buying up 3D... And they're not
In regards to your current statement in this post on the recent availability I would say that is a sure possibility. However I probably favor the non paying buyer theory as that seems to what eBay has basically become. Either way my main gripe with your post was the above 'why aren't those that know buying the 3d prints' argument.
Ignore the answers? What answers have you provided? You made a statement about eBay sales proving 3D isn't banksy and I clearly explained how that conclusion making is rubbish and a very simplistic thought. And now you go on the troll attack. Interesting ... So I'm assuming you don't actually want to discuss the topic cause you sure railroaded it once I started pointing out the simplistic analysis of the prints on eBay being available. Feel free to respond with your thinking on that if you care to actually discuss the topic. I'd love to hear the reasoning behind it. That's all I'm trying to understand with my questions that you've continued to ignore.. I did answer you a while back, which you ignored. It's quite obvious. A few people bought a lot of prints when they were cheap, just as 3D rumours were starting, and now they have many multiples to sell. Seems like a straight forward and logical explaination for multiple sales with the same pictures and deception. What's your theory? This may be a case of talking about two different things I'm referencing the questions in regards to this post you made daylightrobber said:Do you not wonder, if del Naja genuinely was Banksy, then why haven't all of his 3D pieces, once on POW and now on eBay, along with those still available at other sources, been bought, by those who are in the know? Surely they'd make a great investment at the prices they're available for. That's such a good point, and basically all the evidence needed. In the same way that some people just "knew" to start queuing for Banksy prints, those people would be buying up 3D... And they're not In regards to your current statement in this post on the recent availability I would say that is a sure possibility. However I probably favor the non paying buyer theory as that seems to what eBay has basically become. Either way my main gripe with your post was the above 'why aren't those that know buying the 3d prints' argument.
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 21:36:22 GMT 1, Do you think he started as banksy? Or was he part of a collective At one time it's very possible there was one person. Early banksy could easily have been one person with a couple helping out after a while. Late banksy not so much in my opinion. And I think it's very shortsighted to say that because banksy may have started as one person now everything that is released as by banksy I and should be attributed to that one person.
Why shortsighted ?
Do you think he started as banksy? Or was he part of a collective At one time it's very possible there was one person. Early banksy could easily have been one person with a couple helping out after a while. Late banksy not so much in my opinion. And I think it's very shortsighted to say that because banksy may have started as one person now everything that is released as by banksy I and should be attributed to that one person. Why shortsighted ?
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Dive Jedi on Aug 6, 2018 21:40:17 GMT 1, At one time it's very possible there was one person. Early banksy could easily have been one person with a couple helping out after a while. Late banksy not so much in my opinion. And I think it's very shortsighted to say that because banksy may have started as one person now everything that is released as by banksy I and should be attributed to that one person. Why shortsighted ? Are you murrking him ? ?
At one time it's very possible there was one person. Early banksy could easily have been one person with a couple helping out after a while. Late banksy not so much in my opinion. And I think it's very shortsighted to say that because banksy may have started as one person now everything that is released as by banksy I and should be attributed to that one person. Why shortsighted ? Are you murrking him ? ?
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 22:18:30 GMT 1,
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 22:31:32 GMT 1, Ignore the answers? What answers have you provided? You made a statement about eBay sales proving 3D isn't banksy and I clearly explained how that conclusion making is rubbish and a very simplistic thought. And now you go on the troll attack. Interesting ... So I'm assuming you don't actually want to discuss the topic cause you sure railroaded it once I started pointing out the simplistic analysis of the prints on eBay being available. Feel free to respond with your thinking on that if you care to actually discuss the topic. I'd love to hear the reasoning behind it. That's all I'm trying to understand with my questions that you've continued to ignore.. I did answer you a while back, which you ignored. It's quite obvious. A few people bought a lot of prints when they were cheap, just as 3D rumours were starting, and now they have many multiples to sell. Seems like a straight forward and logical explaination for multiple sales with the same pictures and deception. What's your theory?
Whoa. Hang on a second Mr logic, you may just be on to something here. So what is it your saying? 3D is not Banksy?
Ignore the answers? What answers have you provided? You made a statement about eBay sales proving 3D isn't banksy and I clearly explained how that conclusion making is rubbish and a very simplistic thought. And now you go on the troll attack. Interesting ... So I'm assuming you don't actually want to discuss the topic cause you sure railroaded it once I started pointing out the simplistic analysis of the prints on eBay being available. Feel free to respond with your thinking on that if you care to actually discuss the topic. I'd love to hear the reasoning behind it. That's all I'm trying to understand with my questions that you've continued to ignore.. I did answer you a while back, which you ignored. It's quite obvious. A few people bought a lot of prints when they were cheap, just as 3D rumours were starting, and now they have many multiples to sell. Seems like a straight forward and logical explaination for multiple sales with the same pictures and deception. What's your theory? Whoa. Hang on a second Mr logic, you may just be on to something here. So what is it your saying? 3D is not Banksy?
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by Happy Shopper on Aug 6, 2018 22:31:34 GMT 1, I did answer you a while back, which you ignored. It's quite obvious. A few people bought a lot of prints when they were cheap, just as 3D rumours were starting, and now they have many multiples to sell. Seems like a straight forward and logical explaination for multiple sales with the same pictures and deception. What's your theory? This may be a case of talking about two different things I'm referencing the questions in regards to this post you made daylightrobber said:Do you not wonder, if del Naja genuinely was Banksy, then why haven't all of his 3D pieces, once on POW and now on eBay, along with those still available at other sources, been bought, by those who are in the know? Surely they'd make a great investment at the prices they're available for. That's such a good point, and basically all the evidence needed. In the same way that some people just "knew" to start queuing for Banksy prints, those people would be buying up 3D... And they're not In regards to your current statement in this post on the recent availability I would say that is a sure possibility. However I probably favor the non paying buyer theory as that seems to what eBay has basically become. Either way my main gripe with your post was the above 'why aren't those that know buying the 3d prints' argument.
Then I really can't explain it to you any clearer. It's not hard evidence, but it's quite telling...
I think we can assume many people know who Banksy really is, but choose to hide it for one reason or another, but mostly because it's not important. People involved early on in the scene, artists, gallery owners, clients at record labels, magazines, anyone who worked with him, friends, family, friends of family. They'd know if 3D was Banksy, and I'd assume would therefore know a good investment when they saw one. But it seems to me no one is hoovering up 3D prints over the years. They've sat unsold on POW and Laz for years and years and still don't sell for much on eBay.
I think you also made some point about why Banksy prints sell for Β£30k despite being easily available, but that's just economics! The price of anything is set at the price one person is willing to sell for and another is willing to buy for. Too low and they sell quickly and get resold higher. Too high and they sit unsold until someone's willing to pay that price. That's the game any retailer plays. Banksy's level is several thousands. 3D's level is several hundred.
Does that answer your questions?
I did answer you a while back, which you ignored. It's quite obvious. A few people bought a lot of prints when they were cheap, just as 3D rumours were starting, and now they have many multiples to sell. Seems like a straight forward and logical explaination for multiple sales with the same pictures and deception. What's your theory? This may be a case of talking about two different things I'm referencing the questions in regards to this post you made daylightrobber said:Do you not wonder, if del Naja genuinely was Banksy, then why haven't all of his 3D pieces, once on POW and now on eBay, along with those still available at other sources, been bought, by those who are in the know? Surely they'd make a great investment at the prices they're available for. That's such a good point, and basically all the evidence needed. In the same way that some people just "knew" to start queuing for Banksy prints, those people would be buying up 3D... And they're not In regards to your current statement in this post on the recent availability I would say that is a sure possibility. However I probably favor the non paying buyer theory as that seems to what eBay has basically become. Either way my main gripe with your post was the above 'why aren't those that know buying the 3d prints' argument. Then I really can't explain it to you any clearer. It's not hard evidence, but it's quite telling... I think we can assume many people know who Banksy really is, but choose to hide it for one reason or another, but mostly because it's not important. People involved early on in the scene, artists, gallery owners, clients at record labels, magazines, anyone who worked with him, friends, family, friends of family. They'd know if 3D was Banksy, and I'd assume would therefore know a good investment when they saw one. But it seems to me no one is hoovering up 3D prints over the years. They've sat unsold on POW and Laz for years and years and still don't sell for much on eBay. I think you also made some point about why Banksy prints sell for Β£30k despite being easily available, but that's just economics! The price of anything is set at the price one person is willing to sell for and another is willing to buy for. Too low and they sell quickly and get resold higher. Too high and they sit unsold until someone's willing to pay that price. That's the game any retailer plays. Banksy's level is several thousands. 3D's level is several hundred. Does that answer your questions?
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Robert Del Naja π¬π§ 3D β’ Street Artist β’ Massive Attack , by moron on Aug 6, 2018 22:52:01 GMT 1, Where did I say thinking deeper will change 3D into banksy? My posts are in regards to challenging simplistic thinking. Whether it's hoppychopper simplistic anaylsis of undsold 3D prints or cashmans quotes book from 3D and taking that as proof. And no I don't think 3D in Banksy alone. I find it hard to believe anyone can honestly believe he's one person. Do you think he started as banksy? Or was he part of a collective Definately part of a crew. The clues are in his art he is like Leonardi Da Vin Drinki. Crude oil, crude sounds a bit like crew and knowing the Banksy code he is giving us information.
Where did I say thinking deeper will change 3D into banksy? My posts are in regards to challenging simplistic thinking. Whether it's hoppychopper simplistic anaylsis of undsold 3D prints or cashmans quotes book from 3D and taking that as proof. And no I don't think 3D in Banksy alone. I find it hard to believe anyone can honestly believe he's one person. Do you think he started as banksy? Or was he part of a collective Definately part of a crew. The clues are in his art he is like Leonardi Da Vin Drinki. Crude oil, crude sounds a bit like crew and knowing the Banksy code he is giving us information.
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