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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by Hendrix 69 on Sept 28, 2022 10:50:08 GMT 1, Looking for the above please DM if you have one for sale at a sensible price
thanks
Looking for the above please DM if you have one for sale at a sensible price
thanks
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mission
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by mission on Jan 29, 2023 18:16:32 GMT 1, Available
Banksy Toxic Mary unsigned
excellent condition
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Offers around ยฃ19,500
Available Banksy Toxic Mary unsigned excellent condition COA framed Offers around ยฃ19,500 |
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by brookvale on Jan 29, 2023 18:59:26 GMT 1, Nice frame
Nice frame
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by sevrin on Jan 29, 2023 19:15:59 GMT 1, Available Banksy Toxic Mary unsigned excellent condition COA framed Offers around ยฃ19,500
Available Banksy Toxic Mary unsigned excellent condition COA framed Offers around ยฃ19,500 Pest Control COA? |
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by stuckeyc on Jan 30, 2023 4:27:58 GMT 1, Strange. mine is stamped/numbered in opposite side
Strange. mine is stamped/numbered in opposite side
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by The Italian One on Jan 30, 2023 9:00:48 GMT 1, F****rch I paid 28k gbp a year ago for my unsigned toxic Mary ...
if I haven't one yet I would be all over this one
good luck with the sale
F****rch I paid 28k gbp a year ago for my unsigned toxic Mary ...
if I haven't one yet I would be all over this one
good luck with the sale
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by cemltz on Jan 30, 2023 13:31:23 GMT 1, Strange. mine is stamped/numbered in opposite side
Strange. mine is stamped/numbered in opposite side Not unusual or strange at all for these (or most) prints. They were done individually when sold/sent rather than batch processing...so no rhyme or reason to any of it. Left, right, both...sometimes edition number over/under, sometimes side-by-side...sometimes numbered in stamp sometimes not... |
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by stuckeyc on Jan 30, 2023 15:26:38 GMT 1, I realized that POW was a fly by night operation but didn't know there was so much variability. Thanks for clarifying. GLWTS mission. This is banksy at his best imo
I realized that POW was a fly by night operation but didn't know there was so much variability. Thanks for clarifying. GLWTS mission. This is banksy at his best imo
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by met on Jan 30, 2023 16:45:00 GMT 1, Strange. mine is stamped/numbered in opposite side Not unusual or strange at all for these (or most) prints. They were done individually when sold/sent rather than batch processing...so no rhyme or reason to any of it. Left, right, both...sometimes edition number over/under, sometimes side-by-side... sometimes numbered in stamp sometimes not...
I'd be curious to see a Pictures On Walls print that is blindstamped, but with the edition number nevertheless added outside of the stamp.
Would you have an image you could share?
Strange. mine is stamped/numbered in opposite side Not unusual or strange at all for these (or most) prints. They were done individually when sold/sent rather than batch processing...so no rhyme or reason to any of it. Left, right, both...sometimes edition number over/under, sometimes side-by-side... sometimes numbered in stamp sometimes not...I'd be curious to see a Pictures On Walls print that is blindstamped, but with the edition number nevertheless added outside of the stamp. Would you have an image you could share? |
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by met on Jan 30, 2023 17:32:06 GMT 1, I realized that POW was a fly by night operation but didn't know there was so much variability. Thanks for clarifying. GLWTS mission. This is banksy at his best imo
Inconceivable!
Mandy Patinkin in The Princess Bride (1987)
- uploaded by MrJeffooie
I've expressed my criticism about Virgin Mary / Toxic Mary in the past, and remain critical of the image.
In one instance, this led to what I consider an insightful exchange of views with @badrobot and sommguy โ a back-and-forth which can currently be found on pages 1,143 and 1,145 of the thread, Your latest purchase?.
If that discussion may be of interest, see here* and here*.
I realized that POW was a fly by night operation but didn't know there was so much variability. Thanks for clarifying. GLWTS mission. This is banksy at his best imo I've expressed my criticism about Virgin Mary / Toxic Mary in the past, and remain critical of the image. In one instance, this led to what I consider an insightful exchange of views with @ badrobot and sommguy โ a back-and-forth which can currently be found on pages 1,143 and 1,145 of the thread, Your latest purchase?. If that discussion may be of interest, see here * and here *. |
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by cemltz on Jan 30, 2023 17:46:15 GMT 1, I'd be curious to see a Pictures On Walls print that is blindstamped, but with the edition number nevertheless added outside of the stamp. Would you have an image you could share?  Let me look around - I know there are "Laugh Now" and other APs out there with numbers outside the stamp, but may have to hunt around for a "standard edition". I have seen them. My challenge for the day.
I'd be curious to see a Pictures On Walls print that is blindstamped, but with the edition number nevertheless added outside of the stamp. Would you have an image you could share? Of course you would have to ask! Do the Trolley prints with both the heavy weaponry and classic POW stamps count? Let me look around - I know there are "Laugh Now" and other APs out there with numbers outside the stamp, but may have to hunt around for a "standard edition". I have seen them. My challenge for the day. |
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by cemltz on Jan 30, 2023 17:57:38 GMT 1, I've expressed my criticism about Virgin Mary / Toxic Mary in the past, and remain critical of the image. In one instance, this led to what I consider an insightful exchange of views with @ badrobot and sommguy โ a back-and-forth which can currently be found on pages 1,143 and 1,145 of the thread, Your latest purchase?. If that discussion may be of interest, see here * and here *.
Realizing we are hijacking a legitimate for sale thread, one last snippet here..
Maybe a separate thread, if your interpretation and view changes when thinking about the image in terms of the more complete context it was often painted with - crosshairs, jet fighters, etc. :
As someone who has never really seen eye to eye with organized religion, I quite like the brutal and direct nature of the print, while still allowing for more subtle interpretations. That said, it (and Christ with Shopping Bags) has never been allowed out of my basement studio by my wife...
I've expressed my criticism about Virgin Mary / Toxic Mary in the past, and remain critical of the image. In one instance, this led to what I consider an insightful exchange of views with @ badrobot and sommguy โ a back-and-forth which can currently be found on pages 1,143 and 1,145 of the thread, Your latest purchase?. If that discussion may be of interest, see here * and here *. Realizing we are hijacking a legitimate for sale thread, one last snippet here.. Maybe a separate thread, if your interpretation and view changes when thinking about the image in terms of the more complete context it was often painted with - crosshairs, jet fighters, etc. : As someone who has never really seen eye to eye with organized religion, I quite like the brutal and direct nature of the print, while still allowing for more subtle interpretations. That said, it (and Christ with Shopping Bags) has never been allowed out of my basement studio by my wife... |
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by mission on Jan 30, 2023 17:57:58 GMT 1, A few offers so far โฆ looking close to ask
A few offers so far โฆ looking close to ask
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by met on Jan 30, 2023 18:11:37 GMT 1, I'd be curious to see a Pictures On Walls print that is blindstamped, but with the edition number nevertheless added outside of the stamp. Would you have an image you could share? Of course you would have to ask! Do the Trolley prints with both the heavy weaponry and classic POW stamps count? Let me look around - I know there are "Laugh Now" and other APs out there with numbers outside the stamp, but may have to hunt around for a "standard edition". I have seen them. My challenge for the day.
Not to worry. Thought you might have an image to hand, but no need to spend any significant time searching.
I suspect some might well exist, but have never seen one myself with either the Pictures On Walls Dot Com or the later P.O.W. Printmaking stamps.
Around the period the blindstamp was first introduced, one could envisage a situation where:
(i) the edition number was applied first, possibly due to the person being in automaton mode and momentarily forgetful about the then-recent policy change; and
(ii) upon realisation of their omission, applying the blindstamp afterwards, but elsewhere on the print (i.e. not wanting to risk going off-centre and mistakingly embossing over the number itself, as opposed to around it).
I'd be curious to see a Pictures On Walls print that is blindstamped, but with the edition number nevertheless added outside of the stamp. Would you have an image you could share? Of course you would have to ask! Do the Trolley prints with both the heavy weaponry and classic POW stamps count? Let me look around - I know there are "Laugh Now" and other APs out there with numbers outside the stamp, but may have to hunt around for a "standard edition". I have seen them. My challenge for the day. Not to worry. Thought you might have an image to hand, but no need to spend any significant time searching. I suspect some might well exist, but have never seen one myself with either the Pictures On Walls Dot Com or the later P.O.W. Printmaking stamps. Around the period the blindstamp was first introduced, one could envisage a situation where: (i) the edition number was applied first, possibly due to the person being in automaton mode and momentarily forgetful about the then-recent policy change; and (ii) upon realisation of their omission, applying the blindstamp afterwards, but elsewhere on the print (i.e. not wanting to risk going off-centre and mistakingly embossing over the number itself, as opposed to around it). |
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by met on Jan 30, 2023 19:24:35 GMT 1, I've expressed my criticism about Virgin Mary / Toxic Mary in the past, and remain critical of the image. In one instance, this led to what I consider an insightful exchange of views with @ badrobot and sommguy โ a back-and-forth which can currently be found on pages 1,143 and 1,145 of the thread, Your latest purchase?. If that discussion may be of interest, see here * and here *. Realizing we are hijacking a legitimate for sale thread, one last snippet here.. Maybe a separate thread, if your interpretation and view changes when thinking about the image in terms of the more complete context it was often painted with - crosshairs, jet fighters, etc. :  As someone who has never really seen eye to eye with organized religion, I quite like the brutal and direct nature of the print, while still allowing for more subtle interpretations. That said, it (and Christ with Shopping Bags) has never been allowed out of my basement studio by my wife...
To my mind and eyes, that one is even worse.
Just as a minor aside, I would respectfully challenge two of your references:
(i) "more complete context"
For me, the image with crosshairs and jet fighters is not necessarily more complete; it is just different. And conceptually less focused.
Banksy made the work simpler as well as far stronger by subsequently concentrating on Mary (whose purported virgin status I would also challenge) and the wee baby Jesus (whose name makes me think that at least one of his parents may have been Latin American).
(ii) "often painted with"
This may be down to my own ignorance regarding the number of such pieces that were actually painted. Or just differences in our respective views about the meaning of "often".
__________
You mention "the brutal and direct nature" of the Virgin Mary print.
I would add "obvious" or "sixth-form level" in concept.
As for Christ with Shopping Bags, I see that piece as being on a completely different level. Still brutal and direct, but also a great work of art. And arguably reminiscent of some of the most memorable graphic imagery by Peter Kennard.
I've expressed my criticism about Virgin Mary / Toxic Mary in the past, and remain critical of the image. In one instance, this led to what I consider an insightful exchange of views with @ badrobot and sommguy โ a back-and-forth which can currently be found on pages 1,143 and 1,145 of the thread, Your latest purchase?. If that discussion may be of interest, see here * and here *. Realizing we are hijacking a legitimate for sale thread, one last snippet here.. Maybe a separate thread, if your interpretation and view changes when thinking about the image in terms of the more complete context it was often painted with - crosshairs, jet fighters, etc. : As someone who has never really seen eye to eye with organized religion, I quite like the brutal and direct nature of the print, while still allowing for more subtle interpretations. That said, it (and Christ with Shopping Bags) has never been allowed out of my basement studio by my wife... To my mind and eyes, that one is even worse. Just as a minor aside, I would respectfully challenge two of your references: (i) "more complete context"For me, the image with crosshairs and jet fighters is not necessarily more complete; it is just different. And conceptually less focused. Ban ksy made the work simpler as well as far stronger by subsequently concentrating on Mary (whose purported virgin status I would also challenge) and the wee baby Jesus (whose name makes me think that at least one of his parents may have been Latin American). (ii) "often painted with"This may be down to my own ignorance regarding the number of such pieces that were actually painted. Or just differences in our respective views about the meaning of "often". __________ You mention "the brutal and direct nature" of the Virgin Mary print. I would add "obvious" or "sixth-form level" in concept. As for Christ with Shopping Bags, I see that piece as being on a completely different level. Still brutal and direct, but also a great work of art. And arguably reminiscent of some of the most memorable graphic imagery by Peter Kennard. |
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by cemltz on Jan 30, 2023 20:46:45 GMT 1, To my mind and eyes, that one is even worse. Just as a minor aside, I would respectfully challenge two of your referenc (i) "more complete context"For me, the image with crosshairs and jet fighters is not necessarily more complete; it is just different. And conceptually less focused. Ban ksy made the work simpler as well as far stronger by subsequently concentrating on Mary (whose purported virgin status I would also challenge) and the wee baby Jesus (whose name makes me think that at least one of his parents may have been Latin American). (ii) "often painted with"This may be down to my own ignorance regarding the number of such pieces that were actually painted. Or just differences in our respective views about the meaning of "often".
The beauty of art! (Even Banksy "art!) Everything in the eye of the beholder.
As for the "context" and "often" comments: when not constrained by the real estate or the process offered up by prints on paper, the "Virgin Mary" painting done with spray cans and stencil generally had explicit war references.
- The initial large board versions made prior to Turf War had cross hairs and jets.
- At Turf War 3 of the 4 had bombs and jets.
- In Sydney the massive street version was completely surrounded by bombs. Etc.
For me, this "additional context" allows for a third obvious or blatant or shallow interpretation:
1) Organized religion is bad.
2) To quote the artist, himself: "A lot of mothers will do anything for their children, except let them be themselves."
3) All the love and care we give our children to protect them when they are young is really just raising them to be a part of the war industrial machine in which we live...
Third options is less the mother intentionally poisoning the child - more that she is part of (or representative of) a bigger system...slightly more friendly, less brutal view...
Back to the sale!
To my mind and eyes, that one is even worse. Just as a minor aside, I would respectfully challenge two of your referenc (i) "more complete context"For me, the image with crosshairs and jet fighters is not necessarily more complete; it is just different. And conceptually less focused. Ban ksy made the work simpler as well as far stronger by subsequently concentrating on Mary (whose purported virgin status I would also challenge) and the wee baby Jesus (whose name makes me think that at least one of his parents may have been Latin American). (ii) "often painted with"This may be down to my own ignorance regarding the number of such pieces that were actually painted. Or just differences in our respective views about the meaning of "often". The beauty of art! (Even Banksy "art!) Everything in the eye of the beholder. As for the "context" and "often" comments: when not constrained by the real estate or the process offered up by prints on paper, the "Virgin Mary" painting done with spray cans and stencil generally had explicit war references. - The initial large board versions made prior to Turf War had cross hairs and jets. - At Turf War 3 of the 4 had bombs and jets. - In Sydney the massive street version was completely surrounded by bombs. Etc. For me, this "additional context" allows for a third obvious or blatant or shallow interpretation: 1) Organized religion is bad. 2) To quote the artist, himself: "A lot of mothers will do anything for their children, except let them be themselves." 3) All the love and care we give our children to protect them when they are young is really just raising them to be a part of the war industrial machine in which we live... Third options is less the mother intentionally poisoning the child - more that she is part of (or representative of) a bigger system...slightly more friendly, less brutal view... Back to the sale! |
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by met on Jan 31, 2023 0:39:47 GMT 1, To my mind and eyes, that one is even worse. Just as a minor aside, I would respectfully challenge two of your referenc (i) "more complete context"For me, the image with crosshairs and jet fighters is not necessarily more complete; it is just different. And conceptually less focused. Ban ksy made the work simpler as well as far stronger by subsequently concentrating on Mary (whose purported virgin status I would also challenge) and the wee baby Jesus (whose name makes me think that at least one of his parents may have been Latin American). (ii) "often painted with"This may be down to my own ignorance regarding the number of such pieces that were actually painted. Or just differences in our respective views about the meaning of "often". [...] The beauty of art! (Even Banksy "art!) Everything in the eye of the beholder. As for the "context" and "often" comments: when not constrained by the real estate or the process offered up by prints on paper, the "Virgin Mary" painting done with spray cans and stencil generally had explicit war references. - The initial large board versions made prior to Turf War had cross hairs and jets. - At Turf War 3 of the 4 had bombs and jets.- In Sydney the massive street version was completely surrounded by bombs. Etc. For me, this "additional context" allows for a third obvious or blatant or shallow interpretation: 1) Organized religion is bad. 2) To quote the artist, himself: "A lot of mothers will do anything for their children, except let them be themselves." 3) All the love and care we give our children to protect them when they are young is really just raising them to be a part of the war industrial machine in which we live... Third options is less the mother intentionally poisoning the child - more that she is part of (or representative of) a bigger system...slightly more friendly, less brutal view... Back to the sale!
Curiosity piqued.
I was familiar with only one double or mirrored Virgin Mary with the crosshairs and jet fighters from Turf War. A large piece on cardboard.
Have you seen more of these that were exhibited at the 2003 show?
[It is possible that additional originals were made, perhaps as part of a series to sell to different interested collectors, but I myself don't recall more than one having actually been on display.]
Anecdotally, the other large-scale Virgin Mary I saw at the show โ prominently placed by the entrance and also on cardboard, but without the crosshairs and jet fighters โ is the original painting and source image for the POW screen-prints:
Photo by Alan Denney
To my mind and eyes, that one is even worse. Just as a minor aside, I would respectfully challenge two of your referenc (i) "more complete context"For me, the image with crosshairs and jet fighters is not necessarily more complete; it is just different. And conceptually less focused. Ban ksy made the work simpler as well as far stronger by subsequently concentrating on Mary (whose purported virgin status I would also challenge) and the wee baby Jesus (whose name makes me think that at least one of his parents may have been Latin American). (ii) "often painted with"This may be down to my own ignorance regarding the number of such pieces that were actually painted. Or just differences in our respective views about the meaning of "often". [...] The beauty of art! (Even Banksy "art!) Everything in the eye of the beholder. As for the "context" and "often" comments: when not constrained by the real estate or the process offered up by prints on paper, the "Virgin Mary" painting done with spray cans and stencil generally had explicit war references. - The initial large board versions made prior to Turf War had cross hairs and jets. - At Turf War 3 of the 4 had bombs and jets.- In Sydney the massive street version was completely surrounded by bombs. Etc. For me, this "additional context" allows for a third obvious or blatant or shallow interpretation: 1) Organized religion is bad. 2) To quote the artist, himself: "A lot of mothers will do anything for their children, except let them be themselves." 3) All the love and care we give our children to protect them when they are young is really just raising them to be a part of the war industrial machine in which we live... Third options is less the mother intentionally poisoning the child - more that she is part of (or representative of) a bigger system...slightly more friendly, less brutal view... Back to the sale! Curiosity piqued. I was familiar with only one double or mirrored Virgin Mary with the crosshairs and jet fighters from Turf War. A large piece on cardboard. Have you seen more of these that were exhibited at the 2003 show? [It is possible that additional originals were made, perhaps as part of a series to sell to different interested collectors, but I myself don't recall more than one having actually been on display.]Anecdotally, the other large-scale Virgin Mary I saw at the show โ prominently placed by the entrance and also on cardboard, but without the crosshairs and jet fighters โ is the original painting and source image for the POW screen-prints: Photo by Alan Denney |
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by apprint on Apr 23, 2023 13:29:37 GMT 1, if you have one with COA in Mint conditions
DM me price thanks
if you have one with COA in Mint conditions
DM me price thanks
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by Coffee and Art on May 3, 2023 18:46:47 GMT 1, Hello,
Looking to purchase a signed Toxic Mary Banksy Print. Please Pm with any available.
Thanks!
Hello,
Looking to purchase a signed Toxic Mary Banksy Print. Please Pm with any available.
Thanks!
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by Coffee and Art on May 4, 2023 16:54:17 GMT 1, Bump
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by billybob1969 on Jul 21, 2023 15:50:29 GMT 1, As titledI am looking for the above, TM needs to be in good condition with pest control. Will consider most Souls subject to pricing. DM if you have anything. Thanks
As titledI am looking for the above, TM needs to be in good condition with pest control. Will consider most Souls subject to pricing. DM if you have anything. Thanks
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by LJCal on Sept 15, 2023 13:41:53 GMT 1, Looking for an unsigned Toxic Mary, must be in good condition with COA. Can pay ยฃ12,000. DM me
Looking for an unsigned Toxic Mary, must be in good condition with COA. Can pay ยฃ12,000. DM me
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by jonnyb on Mar 13, 2024 9:41:36 GMT 1, Looking for-
Banksy - Signed rats.
Signed CND
Signed Toxic Mary.
Looking for-
Banksy - Signed rats.
Signed CND
Signed Toxic Mary.
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by Razor light on Apr 8, 2024 13:04:27 GMT 1, Looking for a Signed Banksy Toxic Mary
Looking for a Signed Banksy Toxic Mary
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by artlike on Apr 8, 2024 13:47:20 GMT 1, Hooray, we've manage to find the one person out there!!
Hooray, we've manage to find the one person out there!!
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Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print, by KIG96 on Sept 29, 2024 19:30:46 GMT 1, Hello, I am looking for an unsigned Toxic Mary. Please message if you have one. ๐ค๐ผ๐ค๐ผ
Hello, I am looking for an unsigned Toxic Mary. Please message if you have one. ๐ค๐ผ๐ค๐ผ
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Let me look around - I know there are "Laugh Now" and other APs out there with numbers outside the stamp, but may have to hunt around for a "standard edition". I have seen them. My challenge for the day.
