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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by cmc on Apr 2, 2017 20:20:35 GMT 1, I've never known what the Rat is writing here, Ipows? Ipews? anyone care to enlighten me?
I've never known what the Rat is writing here, Ipows? Ipews? anyone care to enlighten me?
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joey
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by joey on Apr 2, 2017 20:33:50 GMT 1, I don't believe anyone has satisfactorily answered that question - although many theories have been advanced.
I don't believe anyone has satisfactorily answered that question - although many theories have been advanced.
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by pippyt75 on Apr 2, 2017 20:45:37 GMT 1, I Paint On Walls is the theory I like the most!
I Paint On Walls is the theory I like the most!
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by sufsean on Apr 2, 2017 21:19:52 GMT 1, Crap- no answer. What's it end up going for?
Crap- no answer. What's it end up going for?
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 13:49:57 GMT 1, Someone has just offered me an unsigned welcome to Hell for 10k GBP with provenance and PC. Great condition and professionally framed. Worth it?
Someone has just offered me an unsigned welcome to Hell for 10k GBP with provenance and PC. Great condition and professionally framed. Worth it?
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by highflyer on Apr 21, 2017 13:51:43 GMT 1, Someone has just offered me an unsigned welcome to Hell for 10k GBP with provenance and PC. Great condition and professionally framed. Worth it?
No
£8k
Someone has just offered me an unsigned welcome to Hell for 10k GBP with provenance and PC. Great condition and professionally framed. Worth it? No £8k |
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 13:59:34 GMT 1, Cheers, many thanks
Cheers, many thanks
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by disappointed on Apr 21, 2017 16:34:56 GMT 1, Someone has just offered me an unsigned welcome to Hell for 10k GBP with provenance and PC. Great condition and professionally framed. Worth it? No £8k
I really wish people would qualify opinions such as this.
I've seen a lot of numbers offered as valuation for prints but often they seem to be based on wishful thinking and/or crude speculation. Without showing the working, in the form of actual agreed sales prices, or historical evidence for an increasing (or decreasing) price trend I would have little confidence in any such opinion.
Have you seen this particular print sell for the price you suggest?
And, no, I do not own either of the prints discussed here, and have zero interest in ever owning either, so have no vested interest in their pricing.
Someone has just offered me an unsigned welcome to Hell for 10k GBP with provenance and PC. Great condition and professionally framed. Worth it? No £8k I really wish people would qualify opinions such as this. I've seen a lot of numbers offered as valuation for prints but often they seem to be based on wishful thinking and/or crude speculation. Without showing the working, in the form of actual agreed sales prices, or historical evidence for an increasing (or decreasing) price trend I would have little confidence in any such opinion. Have you seen this particular print sell for the price you suggest? And, no, I do not own either of the prints discussed here, and have zero interest in ever owning either, so have no vested interest in their pricing. |
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by highflyer on Apr 21, 2017 17:29:05 GMT 1, I really wish people would qualify opinions such as this. I've seen a lot of numbers offered as valuation for prints but often they seem to be based on wishful thinking and/or crude speculation. Without showing the working, in the form of actual agreed sales prices, or historical evidence for an increasing (or decreasing) price trend I would have little confidence in any such opinion. Have you seen this particular print sell for the price you suggest? And, no, I do not own either of the prints discussed here, and have zero interest in ever owning either, so have no vested interest in their pricing.
(9+10+5)/3=8
I really wish people would qualify opinions such as this. I've seen a lot of numbers offered as valuation for prints but often they seem to be based on wishful thinking and/or crude speculation. Without showing the working, in the form of actual agreed sales prices, or historical evidence for an increasing (or decreasing) price trend I would have little confidence in any such opinion. Have you seen this particular print sell for the price you suggest? And, no, I do not own either of the prints discussed here, and have zero interest in ever owning either, so have no vested interest in their pricing. (9+10+5)/3=8 |
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by joey on Apr 21, 2017 20:24:58 GMT 1, If I remember rightly a love rat sold for £10k at auction ages ago. I haven't heard of one since. Prices seem to have been going up steadily. I guess a placard rat is worth less. But using my psychic powers I reckon the lover rat would now be about 12k. And using wild guesswork I would conclude with no supporting evidence whatsoever that a placard rat might be worth £8k-10k. - It a stab in the dark
If I remember rightly a love rat sold for £10k at auction ages ago. I haven't heard of one since. Prices seem to have been going up steadily. I guess a placard rat is worth less. But using my psychic powers I reckon the lover rat would now be about 12k. And using wild guesswork I would conclude with no supporting evidence whatsoever that a placard rat might be worth £8k-10k. - It a stab in the dark
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by JJN on Apr 23, 2017 15:55:04 GMT 1, I have the original signed paint on canvas edition of 15 if anyone is interested, not super keen to sell but if anyone is seriously looking for 1 DM me.
I have the original signed paint on canvas edition of 15 if anyone is interested, not super keen to sell but if anyone is seriously looking for 1 DM me.
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by JJN on Apr 23, 2017 16:29:21 GMT 1, I guess PM Pest Control they will tell you if real or not
I guess PM Pest Control they will tell you if real or not
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by milo99 on Apr 23, 2017 16:56:54 GMT 1, Probably fake, anyway I think pest control don't authenticate
Probably fake, anyway I think pest control don't authenticate
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by sleazus1slord on Apr 23, 2017 18:39:06 GMT 1, Looks cool. Post it on ebay for $15,000 or best offer if pest control wont validate your lottery ticket.
Looks cool. Post it on ebay for $15,000 or best offer if pest control wont validate your lottery ticket.
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by Majestic on Apr 23, 2017 19:35:11 GMT 1, Impossible to know really - I see so many stencil templates on ebay for banksy that these can be easily sprayed on absolutely anything with a nice story added for good measure.
Either way, good luck with it!
Impossible to know really - I see so many stencil templates on ebay for banksy that these can be easily sprayed on absolutely anything with a nice story added for good measure.
Either way, good luck with it!
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 21:35:00 GMT 1, People are very polite on here 
People are very polite on here |
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by milo99 on Apr 23, 2017 21:52:34 GMT 1, Yes they are ha, looks like was sprayed last week, nice clean board. Should be on ebay £20 max
Yes they are ha, looks like was sprayed last week, nice clean board. Should be on ebay £20 max
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by highflyer on Apr 23, 2017 21:55:31 GMT 1, Haters gonna hate
Haters gonna hate
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by sleazus1slord on Apr 24, 2017 3:37:19 GMT 1, Pretty great for a gag gift. Make it seem very important like you believe it's real, and paid a gazillion for it.
Pretty great for a gag gift. Make it seem very important like you believe it's real, and paid a gazillion for it. |
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by disappointed on Apr 24, 2017 11:02:55 GMT 1, I really wish people would qualify opinions such as this. I've seen a lot of numbers offered as valuation for prints but often they seem to be based on wishful thinking and/or crude speculation. Without showing the working, in the form of actual agreed sales prices, or historical evidence for an increasing (or decreasing) price trend I would have little confidence in any such opinion. Have you seen this particular print sell for the price you suggest? And, no, I do not own either of the prints discussed here, and have zero interest in ever owning either, so have no vested interest in their pricing. (9+10+5)/3=8
This sort of validates my point and leads me to conclude that you picked a price out of the air. Being unable to offer any evidence for the price you suggest could easily lead a third party to conclude that you are manipulating the market.
I've seen this sort of baseless advice offered on a couple of threads recently (I don't check that many) and find it concerning, especially when the advice offered relates to artworks costing many thousands. In the short term, the guy who asked the question may now walk away from what may be (or, indeed, may not be) a fair price for that print and the next time he finds a print in similar condition, with good provenance, it could well cost him more.
I really wish people would qualify opinions such as this. I've seen a lot of numbers offered as valuation for prints but often they seem to be based on wishful thinking and/or crude speculation. Without showing the working, in the form of actual agreed sales prices, or historical evidence for an increasing (or decreasing) price trend I would have little confidence in any such opinion. Have you seen this particular print sell for the price you suggest? And, no, I do not own either of the prints discussed here, and have zero interest in ever owning either, so have no vested interest in their pricing. (9+10+5)/3=8 This sort of validates my point and leads me to conclude that you picked a price out of the air. Being unable to offer any evidence for the price you suggest could easily lead a third party to conclude that you are manipulating the market. I've seen this sort of baseless advice offered on a couple of threads recently (I don't check that many) and find it concerning, especially when the advice offered relates to artworks costing many thousands. In the short term, the guy who asked the question may now walk away from what may be (or, indeed, may not be) a fair price for that print and the next time he finds a print in similar condition, with good provenance, it could well cost him more. |
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by highflyer on Apr 24, 2017 11:12:41 GMT 1, This sort of validates my point and leads me to conclude that you picked a price out of the air. Being unable to offer any evidence for the price you suggest could easily lead a third party to conclude that you are manipulating the market. I've seen this sort of baseless advice offered on a couple of threads recently (I don't check that many) and find it concerning, especially when the advice offered relates to artworks costing many thousands. In the short term, the guy who asked the question may now walk away from what may be (or, indeed, may not be) a fair price for that print and the next time he finds a print in similar condition, with good provenance, it could well cost him more.
I don't need to justify it to you or anyone else you concerned cretin. He asked for an estimated value, I gave him one. He can do with it what he likes.
This sort of validates my point and leads me to conclude that you picked a price out of the air. Being unable to offer any evidence for the price you suggest could easily lead a third party to conclude that you are manipulating the market. I've seen this sort of baseless advice offered on a couple of threads recently (I don't check that many) and find it concerning, especially when the advice offered relates to artworks costing many thousands. In the short term, the guy who asked the question may now walk away from what may be (or, indeed, may not be) a fair price for that print and the next time he finds a print in similar condition, with good provenance, it could well cost him more. I don't need to justify it to you or anyone else you concerned cretin. He asked for an estimated value, I gave him one. He can do with it what he likes. |
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by mla on Apr 24, 2017 11:15:57 GMT 1, Cretin? Show a little respect. You were asked a legitimate question and the response is totally justified.
Cretin? Show a little respect. You were asked a legitimate question and the response is totally justified.
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by highflyer on Apr 24, 2017 11:34:49 GMT 1, The guy thinks I'm manipulating the Banksy market hahahaha
The guy thinks I'm manipulating the Banksy market hahahaha
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by disappointed on Apr 24, 2017 11:37:03 GMT 1, This sort of validates my point and leads me to conclude that you picked a price out of the air. Being unable to offer any evidence for the price you suggest could easily lead a third party to conclude that you are manipulating the market. I've seen this sort of baseless advice offered on a couple of threads recently (I don't check that many) and find it concerning, especially when the advice offered relates to artworks costing many thousands. In the short term, the guy who asked the question may now walk away from what may be (or, indeed, may not be) a fair price for that print and the next time he finds a print in similar condition, with good provenance, it could well cost him more. I don't need to justify it to you or anyone else you concerned cretin. He asked for an estimated value, I gave him one. He can do with it what he likes.
Thanks for the reply.
I would argue that justification of the price who offered is EXACTLY what you would need to do therefore, considering your seemingly baseless price plucking, I'd advise the OP to disregard your opinion as I certainly will be in the future.
This sort of validates my point and leads me to conclude that you picked a price out of the air. Being unable to offer any evidence for the price you suggest could easily lead a third party to conclude that you are manipulating the market. I've seen this sort of baseless advice offered on a couple of threads recently (I don't check that many) and find it concerning, especially when the advice offered relates to artworks costing many thousands. In the short term, the guy who asked the question may now walk away from what may be (or, indeed, may not be) a fair price for that print and the next time he finds a print in similar condition, with good provenance, it could well cost him more. I don't need to justify it to you or anyone else you concerned cretin. He asked for an estimated value, I gave him one. He can do with it what he likes. Thanks for the reply. I would argue that justification of the price who offered is EXACTLY what you would need to do therefore, considering your seemingly baseless price plucking, I'd advise the OP to disregard your opinion as I certainly will be in the future. |
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by disappointed on Apr 24, 2017 11:40:53 GMT 1, The guy thinks I'm manipulating the Banksy market hahahaha
No, 'the guy' suggested that offering financial advice without justification could easily lead to that conclusion.
Which it does.
It's not a stretch to imagine a scenario in which someone who is considering buying this print now, or in the near future, talks down prices in order to ensure a better price for himself is it?
The guy thinks I'm manipulating the Banksy market hahahaha No, 'the guy' suggested that offering financial advice without justification could easily lead to that conclusion. Which it does. It's not a stretch to imagine a scenario in which someone who is considering buying this print now, or in the near future, talks down prices in order to ensure a better price for himself is it? |
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by serpico001 on Apr 24, 2017 11:47:18 GMT 1, Yes they are ha, looks like was sprayed last week, nice clean board. Should be on ebay £20 max
So part of your criteria for A Banksy street piece is that it has to look dirty/weathered 😂😂😂😂😂
I'm not trying to sell this piece so have nothing to gain by buying A stencil from eBay & A bit of board from b&q & spraying it on myself then upload it to this forum. It IS about 15 years old & it HAS been stored in my parents loft for the last 10. I know that 100% for certain. Are you certain that I sprayed this last week? If so you know Jack about Banksy.
I've got A boatload of old Banksy prints dude why would I want to make A fake street piece!!!
I'm A 46 year old father of 2,believe me I've got better things to do in life.
Yes they are ha, looks like was sprayed last week, nice clean board. Should be on ebay £20 max So part of your criteria for A Banksy street piece is that it has to look dirty/weathered 😂😂😂😂😂 I'm not trying to sell this piece so have nothing to gain by buying A stencil from eBay & A bit of board from b&q & spraying it on myself then upload it to this forum. It IS about 15 years old & it HAS been stored in my parents loft for the last 10. I know that 100% for certain. Are you certain that I sprayed this last week? If so you know Jack about Banksy. I've got A boatload of old Banksy prints dude why would I want to make A fake street piece!!! I'm A 46 year old father of 2,believe me I've got better things to do in life. |
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by highflyer on Apr 24, 2017 11:51:56 GMT 1, Sooo bored of this. Sorry to the guy who asked for help. I won't bother next time. Anyone else who owns that print, sorry for manipulating the price down. You must be gutted. I can hear the crash of Banksy print prices as I tap. Other than the guy as he doesn't care fortunately for him.
Sooo bored of this. Sorry to the guy who asked for help. I won't bother next time. Anyone else who owns that print, sorry for manipulating the price down. You must be gutted. I can hear the crash of Banksy print prices as I tap. Other than the guy as he doesn't care fortunately for him.
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Banksy • Gangsta Rat Print, by disappointed on Apr 24, 2017 11:53:02 GMT 1, Sooo bored of this. Sorry to the guy who asked for help. I won't bother next time. Anyone else who owns that print, sorry for manipulating the price down. You must be gutted. I can hear the crash of Banksy print prices as I tap. Other than the guy as he doesn't care fortunately for him.
You are awfully dramatic but, yes, I think it would be for the best if you no longer offered such 'advice'.
Sooo bored of this. Sorry to the guy who asked for help. I won't bother next time. Anyone else who owns that print, sorry for manipulating the price down. You must be gutted. I can hear the crash of Banksy print prices as I tap. Other than the guy as he doesn't care fortunately for him. You are awfully dramatic but, yes, I think it would be for the best if you no longer offered such 'advice'. |
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