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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by mydeaddogwontwoof on Jan 4, 2008 11:01:56 GMT 1, Have to agree with Mike, it sucks!, why anyone would want a pic of some gnarled old bat on their wall is beyond me!!
Have to agree with Mike, it sucks!, why anyone would want a pic of some gnarled old bat on their wall is beyond me!!
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by Va Va Voom on Jan 4, 2008 11:48:03 GMT 1, This is the same image that was sold on Adhoc in early december for $600 also in a run of 250....have just mailed them,will be interesting to see their response (adhoc,that is !).
This is the same image that was sold on Adhoc in early december for $600 also in a run of 250....have just mailed them,will be interesting to see their response (adhoc,that is !).
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by buffin on Jan 4, 2008 12:03:27 GMT 1, Excuse my ignorance but can someone please explain why its cool to have tea and coffee stains on your Swoon or Faile but a slight crease in your Banksy or Micallef is a big no no?
Excuse my ignorance but can someone please explain why its cool to have tea and coffee stains on your Swoon or Faile but a slight crease in your Banksy or Micallef is a big no no?
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by BlackRatPress on Jan 4, 2008 12:06:54 GMT 1, i have this print - its really excellent
i have this print - its really excellent
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by G-Man on Jan 4, 2008 12:44:51 GMT 1, I love the cause and I hope she raises loads
Not sure about all this overnight sensation crap about Swoon.. shes in for the long haul IMO
As to the price again as I have said before... its right that the prints are priced at the market value.. which this one considering the hand finishing is IMO... This deters flippers and ensures the artists work ends up on peoples walls
The whole debate over the hand finishing of prints is everywhere on the forum... IMO I love the fact you get something between a print and an original.. Lovin my hand finished Faile and Aiko prints.. makes me think I have originals so bring it on... Just charge the relevant and appropriate mark up
I love the cause and I hope she raises loads
Not sure about all this overnight sensation crap about Swoon.. shes in for the long haul IMO
As to the price again as I have said before... its right that the prints are priced at the market value.. which this one considering the hand finishing is IMO... This deters flippers and ensures the artists work ends up on peoples walls
The whole debate over the hand finishing of prints is everywhere on the forum... IMO I love the fact you get something between a print and an original.. Lovin my hand finished Faile and Aiko prints.. makes me think I have originals so bring it on... Just charge the relevant and appropriate mark up
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by G-Man on Jan 4, 2008 14:17:08 GMT 1, I love the cause and I hope she raises loads Not sure about all this overnight sensation crap about Swoon.. shes in for the long haul IMO As to the price again as I have said before... its right that the prints are priced at the market value.. which this one considering the hand finishing is IMO... This deters flippers and ensures the artists work ends up on peoples walls The whole debate over the hand finishing of prints is everywhere on the forum... IMO I love the fact you get something between a print and an original.. Lovin my hand finished Faile and Aiko prints.. makes me think I have originals so bring it on... Just charge the relevant and appropriate mark up
This forum makes me laugh....
Everytime I express an opinion I get negged! LOL
Ho HUM... 
I love the cause and I hope she raises loads Not sure about all this overnight sensation crap about Swoon.. shes in for the long haul IMO As to the price again as I have said before... its right that the prints are priced at the market value.. which this one considering the hand finishing is IMO... This deters flippers and ensures the artists work ends up on peoples walls The whole debate over the hand finishing of prints is everywhere on the forum... IMO I love the fact you get something between a print and an original.. Lovin my hand finished Faile and Aiko prints.. makes me think I have originals so bring it on... Just charge the relevant and appropriate mark up This forum makes me laugh.... Everytime I express an opinion I get negged! LOL Ho HUM... |
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by gbh on Jan 4, 2008 14:22:56 GMT 1, yawn...
not doing a lot for me
yawn...
not doing a lot for me
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by gbh on Jan 4, 2008 14:23:39 GMT 1, FYI
Further notes from the shippers at Justseeds:
The art is printed on a heavy book-board and they have curled slightly in the staining process, to see what they look like click here. All sales on these prints are final.
FYI Further notes from the shippers at Justseeds: The art is printed on a heavy book-board and they have curled slightly in the staining process, to see what they look like click here. All sales on these prints are final. |
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by gbh on Jan 4, 2008 14:27:55 GMT 1, small
mediocre image
high edition
over priced
defective print process
pass
pass
small
mediocre image
high edition
over priced
defective print process
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by Neate Michael on Jan 4, 2008 14:36:40 GMT 1, I love Swoon, love the image and if I had all the money in the world I would buy it. Love the one at BRP too but not got the cash for that either. Dammit.
I love Swoon, love the image and if I had all the money in the world I would buy it. Love the one at BRP too but not got the cash for that either. Dammit.
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by burnz on Jan 4, 2008 14:55:37 GMT 1, i think its gash and a bit over priced but what do i no 
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by bobbymeachamjr on Jan 4, 2008 16:56:13 GMT 1, Yeah absolutely. Who cares if shes been doing street work since 1999. Some of you die hards might of heard of her prior to the last 2 years but simply hearing of a name doesn't = sensation. She is who she is now because of the recent frenzy in street art. Just like a lot of other street artists ie. Micallef
This strategy is going to haunt these overnight sensation artists one day... Overnight sensation? You are kidding right. She has been doing street work since around 1999. Check out this NY Times article written in 2004 www.nytimes.com/2004/07/09/nyregion/09street.html?ex=1247112000&en=87b164f0ec2b3c36&ei=5090Anyway re pricing Swoon Helena's have been going for between $500 and $700 on the bay so this print is priced at market value. Given that it is a worthy cause why shouldn't justseeds sell at market value? It may take longer to sell out but they still get the money rather than a flipper.
Yeah absolutely. Who cares if shes been doing street work since 1999. Some of you die hards might of heard of her prior to the last 2 years but simply hearing of a name doesn't = sensation. She is who she is now because of the recent frenzy in street art. Just like a lot of other street artists ie. Micallef This strategy is going to haunt these overnight sensation artists one day... Overnight sensation? You are kidding right. She has been doing street work since around 1999. Check out this NY Times article written in 2004 www.nytimes.com/2004/07/09/nyregion/09street.html?ex=1247112000&en=87b164f0ec2b3c36&ei=5090Anyway re pricing Swoon Helena's have been going for between $500 and $700 on the bay so this print is priced at market value. Given that it is a worthy cause why shouldn't justseeds sell at market value? It may take longer to sell out but they still get the money rather than a flipper. |
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by pezlow on Jan 4, 2008 16:58:55 GMT 1, Micallef isn't a street artist. I can't see how you can say she is an overnight sensation just because she has become more popular in the last 12 months.
Micallef isn't a street artist. I can't see how you can say she is an overnight sensation just because she has become more popular in the last 12 months.
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by bobbymeachamjr on Jan 4, 2008 17:11:21 GMT 1, Micallef 2005 - relative unknown
Micallef 2007 - hundreds of thousands for his work
= overnight sensation
Swoon 2005 - 2% of current fan base
Swoon 2007 - adds 98% of her current fan base
= overnight sensation
Micallef 2005 - relative unknown
Micallef 2007 - hundreds of thousands for his work
= overnight sensation
Swoon 2005 - 2% of current fan base
Swoon 2007 - adds 98% of her current fan base
= overnight sensation
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by Backpack Punk on Jan 4, 2008 17:21:21 GMT 1, Micallef 2005 - relative unknown Micallef 2007 - hundreds of thousands for his work = overnight sensation Swoon 2005 - 2% of current fan base Swoon 2007 - adds 98% of her current fan base = overnight sensation
Banksy 04 10% of current fan base
Banksy 06 (LA show) adds 98%.......
=overnight sensation?
Just because someone who has been doing art for close to 10 years becomes known doesn't mean they become overnight sensation, it means that many years of hard work have come to fruition.
2007 was filled with overnight sensations when it comes to street art, but Swoon was not one of them........Hutch comes to mind though 
Micallef 2005 - relative unknown Micallef 2007 - hundreds of thousands for his work = overnight sensation Swoon 2005 - 2% of current fan base Swoon 2007 - adds 98% of her current fan base = overnight sensation Banksy 04 10% of current fan base Banksy 06 (LA show) adds 98%....... =overnight sensation? Just because someone who has been doing art for close to 10 years becomes known doesn't mean they become overnight sensation, it means that many years of hard work have come to fruition. 2007 was filled with overnight sensations when it comes to street art, but Swoon was not one of them........Hutch comes to mind though |
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by Backpack Punk on Jan 4, 2008 17:23:17 GMT 1, Also keep in mind Swoon didn't release very many prints before 07 so I think most people haven't heard of her, once she started releasing prints more people had access to her work hence more attention is paid to her.
Also keep in mind Swoon didn't release very many prints before 07 so I think most people haven't heard of her, once she started releasing prints more people had access to her work hence more attention is paid to her.
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by BlackRatPress on Jan 4, 2008 17:23:18 GMT 1, rubbish
she was being bought by moma back in 05.. so what if some people on some forums didn't know who she was. She was already making attacting interest from critics, museums and major galleries.
rubbish
she was being bought by moma back in 05.. so what if some people on some forums didn't know who she was. She was already making attacting interest from critics, museums and major galleries.
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by valeha on Jan 4, 2008 17:23:32 GMT 1, Micallef 2005 - relative unknown Micallef 2007 - hundreds of thousands for his work = overnight sensation Swoon 2005 - 2% of current fan base Swoon 2007 - adds 98% of her current fan base = overnight sensation Banksy 04 10% of current fan base Banksy 06 (LA show) adds 98%....... =overnight sensation? Just because someone who has been doing art for close to 10 years becomes known doesn't mean they become overnight sensation, it means that many years of hard work have come to fruition. 2007 was filled with overnight sensations when it comes to street art, but Swoon was not one of them........Hutch comes to mind though
gotta agree...2 years of hard graft (between '05-'07) = overnight sensation?
I think you're doing your sums wrong.
what does that mean anyway? Artists get more exposure and their fan base grows, it does not in anyway dimish the greatness of their work.
I love the new swoon - if only I wasn't so broke I'd get it.
Micallef 2005 - relative unknown Micallef 2007 - hundreds of thousands for his work = overnight sensation Swoon 2005 - 2% of current fan base Swoon 2007 - adds 98% of her current fan base = overnight sensation Banksy 04 10% of current fan base Banksy 06 (LA show) adds 98%....... =overnight sensation? Just because someone who has been doing art for close to 10 years becomes known doesn't mean they become overnight sensation, it means that many years of hard work have come to fruition. 2007 was filled with overnight sensations when it comes to street art, but Swoon was not one of them........Hutch comes to mind though gotta agree...2 years of hard graft (between '05-'07) = overnight sensation? I think you're doing your sums wrong. what does that mean anyway? Artists get more exposure and their fan base grows, it does not in anyway dimish the greatness of their work. I love the new swoon - if only I wasn't so broke I'd get it. |
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by BlackRatPress on Jan 4, 2008 17:25:05 GMT 1, her success out of everyone has least to do with the street art frenzy and most to do with a slow, steady and un hyped progression focused on making art not money
her success out of everyone has least to do with the street art frenzy and most to do with a slow, steady and un hyped progression focused on making art not money
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by pezlow on Jan 4, 2008 17:29:08 GMT 1, her success out of everyone has least to do with the street art frenzy and most to do with a slow, steady and un hyped progression focused on making art not money
Absolutely - look how many of the prints she has released have been for charity or charitable organisations. 3 prints with justseeds, one print with MRA and countless originals etc.
her success out of everyone has least to do with the street art frenzy and most to do with a slow, steady and un hyped progression focused on making art not money Absolutely - look how many of the prints she has released have been for charity or charitable organisations. 3 prints with justseeds, one print with MRA and countless originals etc. |
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by bobbymeachamjr on Jan 4, 2008 17:31:18 GMT 1, ummm banksy and his rise is the very epitome of an overnight sensation.
ummm banksy and his rise is the very epitome of an overnight sensation.
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by pezlow on Jan 4, 2008 17:34:38 GMT 1, ummm banksy and his rise is the very epitome of an overnight sensation.
Well if you class starting off as a graffiti writer in your teens and becoming successful in your late twenties as an overnight sensation then I guess everyone is.
By this token Damien Hirst and all the YBA's were overnight sensations when they became prominent in 1980's. As was koons, murakami etc etc.
ummm banksy and his rise is the very epitome of an overnight sensation. Well if you class starting off as a graffiti writer in your teens and becoming successful in your late twenties as an overnight sensation then I guess everyone is. By this token Damien Hirst and all the YBA's were overnight sensations when they became prominent in 1980's. As was koons, murakami etc etc. |
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by valeha on Jan 4, 2008 17:37:20 GMT 1, bobbymeacham - I think you're not clear on the term overnight sensation. IMO an overnight sensation would be someone who pops onto the scene from nowhere - may ride the "streetart bandwagon" then dissapear (i have one or two peeps in mind) but none are whom you mentioned.
banksy is in no way an overnight senastion, just because his fan base has grown, and his prices have soared as a result does not = overnight sensation.
bobbymeacham - I think you're not clear on the term overnight sensation. IMO an overnight sensation would be someone who pops onto the scene from nowhere - may ride the "streetart bandwagon" then dissapear (i have one or two peeps in mind) but none are whom you mentioned.
banksy is in no way an overnight senastion, just because his fan base has grown, and his prices have soared as a result does not = overnight sensation.
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by bobbymeachamjr on Jan 4, 2008 17:38:15 GMT 1, your argument claims that theres no such thing as an overnight sensation period.
Every musician who are defined by being an overnight sensation surely was doing music in their teens no?
ummm banksy and his rise is the very epitome of an overnight sensation. Well if you class starting off as a graffiti writer in your teens and becoming successful in your late twenties as an overnight sensation then I guess everyone is. By this token Damien Hirst and all the YBA's were overnight sensations when they became prominent in 1980's. As was koons, murakami etc etc.
your argument claims that theres no such thing as an overnight sensation period. Every musician who are defined by being an overnight sensation surely was doing music in their teens no? ummm banksy and his rise is the very epitome of an overnight sensation. Well if you class starting off as a graffiti writer in your teens and becoming successful in your late twenties as an overnight sensation then I guess everyone is. By this token Damien Hirst and all the YBA's were overnight sensations when they became prominent in 1980's. As was koons, murakami etc etc. |
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by valeha on Jan 4, 2008 17:38:25 GMT 1, oh and what pezlow said, he always puts it more eloquently than i ever could!
oh and what pezlow said, he always puts it more eloquently than i ever could!
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by bobbymeachamjr on Jan 4, 2008 17:39:20 GMT 1, You can be an overnight sensation and not "disappear"
You can be an overnight sensation and not "disappear"
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by ricosg11 on Jan 4, 2008 17:40:20 GMT 1, ummm banksy and his rise is the very epitome of an overnight sensation.
fortunately for Swoon she is sooo far removed from this statement and hype that what is said on these boards about her has no bearing on her "market". You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but it is factually and conceptually wrong. My pride and joys:
ummm banksy and his rise is the very epitome of an overnight sensation. fortunately for Swoon she is sooo far removed from this statement and hype that what is said on these boards about her has no bearing on her "market". You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but it is factually and conceptually wrong. My pride and joys: |
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by valeha on Jan 4, 2008 17:41:53 GMT 1, indeed you can - but you can't be an overnight sensation when you have been doing incredible, respeceted work for many years...just because their prices have risen does not mean they are overnight sensations. I've been a fan of Banksy since '03 - so for me he's not overnight sensation!!
indeed you can - but you can't be an overnight sensation when you have been doing incredible, respeceted work for many years...just because their prices have risen does not mean they are overnight sensations. I've been a fan of Banksy since '03 - so for me he's not overnight sensation!!
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by giiiant on Jan 4, 2008 17:52:25 GMT 1, that last pic frightened me
that last pic frightened me
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by timebomb on Jan 4, 2008 17:58:41 GMT 1, your argument claims that theres no such thing as an overnight sensation period. Every musician who are defined by being an overnight sensation surely was doing music in their teens no? Well if you class starting off as a graffiti writer in your teens and becoming successful in your late twenties as an overnight sensation then I guess everyone is. By this token Damien Hirst and all the YBA's were overnight sensations when they became prominent in 1980's. As was koons, murakami etc etc.
Good point- it all comes down to the change from the artist having to directly deal with his work and selling to it being taken out of their hands after the grassroot fans have been built. It takes years for it to get into the public consciousness and acquire a speculative (hate that term!!) value.
your argument claims that theres no such thing as an overnight sensation period. Every musician who are defined by being an overnight sensation surely was doing music in their teens no? Well if you class starting off as a graffiti writer in your teens and becoming successful in your late twenties as an overnight sensation then I guess everyone is. By this token Damien Hirst and all the YBA's were overnight sensations when they became prominent in 1980's. As was koons, murakami etc etc. Good point- it all comes down to the change from the artist having to directly deal with his work and selling to it being taken out of their hands after the grassroot fans have been built. It takes years for it to get into the public consciousness and acquire a speculative (hate that term!!) value. |
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