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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by Daniel Silk on Mar 16, 2017 11:34:41 GMT 1, What do you think of the these? I guess it's at least a step up from doing straight Banksy copies, but not on the level where he's gonna really gain credit as an artist
Thirsty Bstrd
"Thirsty Bstrd is a french visual artist from Paris, using spray paint, stencils, stickers and videos. His work mainly consists in making satirical comments about society, politics and consumerism, by ยซ using powerful symbols and popular images and making them look funny or weird. The purpose being to provoke and generate an emotion From 2011 to 2015, he was the artistic director of his own creative agency based in Paris. In addition to his inventive works for companies, he worked as a curator and organiser of numerous urban art exhibitions in Paris and Los Angeles, showing his own art at every opportunity. His work features in solo and group shows and numerous collections in Paris, London, Singapore and the USA. It also attracted attention in several art auctions with a great amount of enthusiast. His artworks, from stencils to stickers, can be seen by a worldwide audience in the streets."
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What do you think of the these? I guess it's at least a step up from doing straight Banksy copies, but not on the level where he's gonna really gain credit as an artist Thirsty Bstrd "Thirsty Bstrd is a french visual artist from Paris, using spray paint, stencils, stickers and videos. His work mainly consists in making satirical comments about society, politics and consumerism, by ยซ using powerful symbols and popular images and making them look funny or weird. The purpose being to provoke and generate an emotion From 2011 to 2015, he was the artistic director of his own creative agency based in Paris. In addition to his inventive works for companies, he worked as a curator and organiser of numerous urban art exhibitions in Paris and Los Angeles, showing his own art at every opportunity. His work features in solo and group shows and numerous collections in Paris, London, Singapore and the USA. It also attracted attention in several art auctions with a great amount of enthusiast. His artworks, from stencils to stickers, can be seen by a worldwide audience in the streets." printclublondon.com/artist/thirsty-bstrd
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by Damien on Mar 16, 2017 11:41:26 GMT 1, Ebays full of similar stuff under ยฃ10
Ebays full of similar stuff under ยฃ10
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by vulva on Mar 16, 2017 11:54:23 GMT 1, 'attracted attention in several art auktions with great amount of entusiast'
Really? Great amount of enthusiast? Attracted? Mm pocket wankers.
'attracted attention in several art auktions with great amount of entusiast'
Really? Great amount of enthusiast? Attracted? Mm pocket wankers.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by frankiefrench on Mar 16, 2017 11:55:36 GMT 1, What do you think of the these? I guess it's at least a step up from doing straight Banksy copies, but not on the level where he's gonna really gain credit as an artist Thirsty Bstrd "Thirsty Bstrd is a french visual artist from Paris, using spray paint, stencils, stickers and videos. His work mainly consists in making satirical comments about society, politics and consumerism, by ยซ using powerful symbols and popular images and making them look funny or weird. The purpose being to provoke and generate an emotion From 2011 to 2015, he was the artistic director of his own creative agency based in Paris. In addition to his inventive works for companies, he worked as a curator and organiser of numerous urban art exhibitions in Paris and Los Angeles, showing his own art at every opportunity. His work features in solo and group shows and numerous collections in Paris, London, Singapore and the USA. It also attracted attention in several art auctions with a great amount of enthusiast. His artworks, from stencils to stickers, can be seen by a worldwide audience in the streets." printclublondon.com/artist/thirsty-bstrd God help us.
What do you think of the these? I guess it's at least a step up from doing straight Banksy copies, but not on the level where he's gonna really gain credit as an artist Thirsty Bstrd "Thirsty Bstrd is a french visual artist from Paris, using spray paint, stencils, stickers and videos. His work mainly consists in making satirical comments about society, politics and consumerism, by ยซ using powerful symbols and popular images and making them look funny or weird. The purpose being to provoke and generate an emotion From 2011 to 2015, he was the artistic director of his own creative agency based in Paris. In addition to his inventive works for companies, he worked as a curator and organiser of numerous urban art exhibitions in Paris and Los Angeles, showing his own art at every opportunity. His work features in solo and group shows and numerous collections in Paris, London, Singapore and the USA. It also attracted attention in several art auctions with a great amount of enthusiast. His artworks, from stencils to stickers, can be seen by a worldwide audience in the streets." printclublondon.com/artist/thirsty-bstrdGod help us.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by frankiefrench on Mar 16, 2017 11:58:08 GMT 1, 'attracted attention in several art auktions with great amount of entusiast' Really? Great amount of enthusiast? Attracted? Mm pocket wankers. Yep, self appointed, self serving agenda. People that are so desperate to fleece pockets with any old toss that they cant even be bothered to spell. The attitude of any old lookalike s**t will do, has to end.
'attracted attention in several art auktions with great amount of entusiast' Really? Great amount of enthusiast? Attracted? Mm pocket wankers. Yep, self appointed, self serving agenda. People that are so desperate to fleece pockets with any old toss that they cant even be bothered to spell. The attitude of any old lookalike s**t will do, has to end.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by frankiefrench on Mar 16, 2017 12:00:38 GMT 1, At - At walker with giant adidas shell toes sneakers onโฆ. oh hang on, i'm trying to make up uber rubbish and somebody already went and did it. You actually cant make it up anymore.
At - At walker with giant adidas shell toes sneakers onโฆ. oh hang on, i'm trying to make up uber rubbish and somebody already went and did it. You actually cant make it up anymore.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by frankiefrench on Mar 16, 2017 12:02:25 GMT 1, Just don't understand why talented artists choose to imitate rather than innovate? I get creating in the same style but come up with your own original creative ideas. Copycat art sucks Agreed, it is this sort of garbage that spawned the whole prank with Mr Brainwash, a sort of modern day take on Trading places, we can hype up and make a 'star' out of anybody. Oh how that backfired.
Just don't understand why talented artists choose to imitate rather than innovate? I get creating in the same style but come up with your own original creative ideas. Copycat art sucks Agreed, it is this sort of garbage that spawned the whole prank with Mr Brainwash, a sort of modern day take on Trading places, we can hype up and make a 'star' out of anybody. Oh how that backfired.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by frankiefrench on Mar 16, 2017 12:02:49 GMT 1, TURDSTY BARSTURD
TURDSTY BARSTURD
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by Dahmer on Mar 16, 2017 12:02:50 GMT 1, yeah, really dont like it.
yeah, really dont like it.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by Hairbland on Mar 16, 2017 15:04:07 GMT 1, Just don't understand why talented artists choose to imitate rather than innovate? I get creating in the same style but come up with your own original creative ideas. ย Copycat art sucks
Not a talented artist, more an Art Director in advertising and marketing, where it is all about "the sell" and ideas are nicked and repurposed as a general rule. I think guys like this see an opportunity to try to get a quick fake entry at what they perceive to be the cooler kids table - yet they don't realize it is actually the nerds done good table.
No soul. Name sucks also. Eliminating vowels was so 10 years ago.
Just don't understand why talented artists choose to imitate rather than innovate? I get creating in the same style but come up with your own original creative ideas. ย Copycat art sucks Not a talented artist, more an Art Director in advertising and marketing, where it is all about "the sell" and ideas are nicked and repurposed as a general rule. I think guys like this see an opportunity to try to get a quick fake entry at what they perceive to be the cooler kids table - yet they don't realize it is actually the nerds done good table. No soul. Name sucks also. Eliminating vowels was so 10 years ago.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by Daniel Silk on Mar 16, 2017 16:05:28 GMT 1, Just don't understand why talented artists choose to imitate rather than innovate? I get creating in the same style but come up with your own original creative ideas. Copycat art sucks
Just don't understand why talented artists choose to imitate rather than innovate? I get creating in the same style but come up with your own original creative ideas. Copycat art sucks
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by Happy Shopper on Mar 16, 2017 16:14:48 GMT 1, I don't think when Banksy did Kate Moss in the style of the famous Warhol Marilyn it was a case of copying. I'm fairly sure he knew that people knew the original image well enough to recognise he was either subverting it or updating it with a new "icon".
I was about to write that he left Warhol there and didn't continue to imitate his art, but then remembered he did Soup Cans too! haha
I don't think when Banksy did Kate Moss in the style of the famous Warhol Marilyn it was a case of copying. I'm fairly sure he knew that people knew the original image well enough to recognise he was either subverting it or updating it with a new "icon".
I was about to write that he left Warhol there and didn't continue to imitate his art, but then remembered he did Soup Cans too! haha
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by sakesake on Mar 16, 2017 16:53:34 GMT 1, Obviously Banksy ripped off Warhol, although I see it more as a quote rather than imitation due to a lack of creativity. They are my least favorites Banksy too. CYW is a sort of rip off as well but at least it's done in a creative way. Just my 2 cents.
Obviously Banksy ripped off Warhol, although I see it more as a quote rather than imitation due to a lack of creativity. They are my least favorites Banksy too. CYW is a sort of rip off as well but at least it's done in a creative way. Just my 2 cents.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by pedrofuhrer on Mar 16, 2017 21:31:45 GMT 1, There's lot of almost copy/paste... Liechtenstein/DFace, Haring/Banksy, Warhol/Banksy... But I also face it as an inspiration.
In my opinion they get something from the older artist and apply some new and original view and style.
Of course that some pieces looks more copy than others, but again as much talked about in this forum, art is something very individual.
And I think that's the great thing on arts.
Mr. Brainwash doesn't mean nothing for me, but can be great for someone else.
There will always be a discussion about this....
There's lot of almost copy/paste... Liechtenstein/DFace, Haring/Banksy, Warhol/Banksy... But I also face it as an inspiration.
In my opinion they get something from the older artist and apply some new and original view and style.
Of course that some pieces looks more copy than others, but again as much talked about in this forum, art is something very individual.
And I think that's the great thing on arts.
Mr. Brainwash doesn't mean nothing for me, but can be great for someone else.
There will always be a discussion about this....
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by Coach on Mar 16, 2017 22:03:07 GMT 1, Obviously Banksy ripped off Warhol, although I see it more as a quote rather than imitation due to a lack of creativity. They are my least favorites Banksy too. Choose Your Weapon is a sort of rip off as well but at least it's done in a creative way. Just my 2 cents.
If the piece is clearly a homage to another artist, is rip off the right phrase? Not to my mind. Same comment to Daniel Silk's posting of the Kate.
Obviously Banksy ripped off Warhol, although I see it more as a quote rather than imitation due to a lack of creativity. They are my least favorites Banksy too. Choose Your Weapon is a sort of rip off as well but at least it's done in a creative way. Just my 2 cents. If the piece is clearly a homage to another artist, is rip off the right phrase? Not to my mind. Same comment to Daniel Silk's posting of the Kate.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by Con Art Studio on Mar 17, 2017 0:38:28 GMT 1, Obviously Banksy ripped off Warhol, although I see it more as a quote rather than imitation due to a lack of creativity. They are my least favorites Banksy too. Choose Your Weapon is a sort of rip off as well but at least it's done in a creative way. Just my 2 cents. If the piece is clearly a homage to another artist, is rip off the right phrase? Not to my mind. Same comment to Daniel Silk's posting of the Kate. to me, if the images were executed well it doesn't matter what the subject matter is. the problem is they weren't, they were poorly vectorized using the live trace feature in adobe illustrator. Just look at the paint drips on the Ewok... ever seen paint drips with sharp angles and lines? That's an unfortunate side effect from live trace which should have been cleaned up. The original laugh now image has softer lines and some overspray from the stencil, all of which are missing from the ewok. If you're going to mimick/parody other art then make sure it's perfectly executed.
Obviously Banksy ripped off Warhol, although I see it more as a quote rather than imitation due to a lack of creativity. They are my least favorites Banksy too. Choose Your Weapon is a sort of rip off as well but at least it's done in a creative way. Just my 2 cents. If the piece is clearly a homage to another artist, is rip off the right phrase? Not to my mind. Same comment to Daniel Silk's posting of the Kate. to me, if the images were executed well it doesn't matter what the subject matter is. the problem is they weren't, they were poorly vectorized using the live trace feature in adobe illustrator. Just look at the paint drips on the Ewok... ever seen paint drips with sharp angles and lines? That's an unfortunate side effect from live trace which should have been cleaned up. The original laugh now image has softer lines and some overspray from the stencil, all of which are missing from the ewok. If you're going to mimick/parody other art then make sure it's perfectly executed.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by Coach on Mar 17, 2017 1:11:13 GMT 1, If the piece is clearly a homage to another artist, is rip off the right phrase? Not to my mind. Same comment to Daniel Silk's posting of the Kate. to me, if the images were executed well it doesn't matter what the subject matter is. the problem is they weren't, they were poorly vectorized using the live trace feature in adobe illustrator. Just look at the paint drips on the Ewok... ever seen paint drips with sharp angles and lines? That's an unfortunate side effect from live trace which should have been cleaned up. The original laugh now image has softer lines and some overspray from the stencil, all of which are missing from the ewok. If you're going to mimick/parody other art then make sure it's perfectly executed.
Thank you. However my post was in reference to the comment that Banksy had "Ripped off" Warhol.
If the piece is clearly a homage to another artist, is rip off the right phrase? Not to my mind. Same comment to Daniel Silk's posting of the Kate. to me, if the images were executed well it doesn't matter what the subject matter is. the problem is they weren't, they were poorly vectorized using the live trace feature in adobe illustrator. Just look at the paint drips on the Ewok... ever seen paint drips with sharp angles and lines? That's an unfortunate side effect from live trace which should have been cleaned up. The original laugh now image has softer lines and some overspray from the stencil, all of which are missing from the ewok. If you're going to mimick/parody other art then make sure it's perfectly executed. Thank you. However my post was in reference to the comment that Banksy had "Ripped off" Warhol.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by Con Art Studio on Mar 17, 2017 1:15:57 GMT 1, to me, if the images were executed well it doesn't matter what the subject matter is. the problem is they weren't, they were poorly vectorized using the live trace feature in adobe illustrator. Just look at the paint drips on the Ewok... ever seen paint drips with sharp angles and lines? That's an unfortunate side effect from live trace which should have been cleaned up. The original laugh now image has softer lines and some overspray from the stencil, all of which are missing from the ewok. If you're going to mimick/parody other art then make sure it's perfectly executed. Thank you. However my post was in reference to the comment that Banksy had "Ripped off" Warhol. i agree, neither case should be considered a "rip off" because they aren't. They are parodies (or homages as you mentioned) of other works. In neither case are the artists claiming, or passing off, the ideas, or styles, are their own.
to me, if the images were executed well it doesn't matter what the subject matter is. the problem is they weren't, they were poorly vectorized using the live trace feature in adobe illustrator. Just look at the paint drips on the Ewok... ever seen paint drips with sharp angles and lines? That's an unfortunate side effect from live trace which should have been cleaned up. The original laugh now image has softer lines and some overspray from the stencil, all of which are missing from the ewok. If you're going to mimick/parody other art then make sure it's perfectly executed. Thank you. However my post was in reference to the comment that Banksy had "Ripped off" Warhol. i agree, neither case should be considered a "rip off" because they aren't. They are parodies (or homages as you mentioned) of other works. In neither case are the artists claiming, or passing off, the ideas, or styles, are their own.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by Daniel Silk on Mar 17, 2017 1:18:11 GMT 1, It's an interesting argument, coz I can't see much difference between what Banksy and other artists have done over the years by copying and reworking other artists images, but for some reason it's not acceptable for Thirsty Bstrd? I don't know the answer I'm just throwing the questions about coz I'm interested to hear what you all think.
It's an interesting argument, coz I can't see much difference between what Banksy and other artists have done over the years by copying and reworking other artists images, but for some reason it's not acceptable for Thirsty Bstrd? I don't know the answer I'm just throwing the questions about coz I'm interested to hear what you all think.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by Hairbland on Mar 17, 2017 1:34:29 GMT 1, It's an interesting argument, coz I can't see much difference between what Banksy and other artists have done over the years by copying and reworking other artists images, but for some reason it's not acceptable for Thirsty Bstrd? I don't know the answer I'm just throwing the questions about coz I'm interested to hear what you all think.
Hard to say, subjective arguments are what they are, but I think the forum is largely in agreement over the over-use of Star Wars imagery.
It's an interesting argument, coz I can't see much difference between what Banksy and other artists have done over the years by copying and reworking other artists images, but for some reason it's not acceptable for Thirsty Bstrd? I don't know the answer I'm just throwing the questions about coz I'm interested to hear what you all think. Hard to say, subjective arguments are what they are, but I think the forum is largely in agreement over the over-use of Star Wars imagery.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by Con Art Studio on Mar 17, 2017 2:06:31 GMT 1, It's an interesting argument, coz I can't see much difference between what Banksy and other artists have done over the years by copying and reworking other artists images, but for some reason it's not acceptable for Thirsty Bstrd? I don't know the answer I'm just throwing the questions about coz I'm interested to hear what you all think. There is no difference which is why the execution is so important. The work posted above is not executed well and is a sloppy and lazy execution of pushing a button in adobe illustrator. Very little time and effort went into making those and it shows. If you're going to charge people money for the work then at least give them their money's worth.
It's an interesting argument, coz I can't see much difference between what Banksy and other artists have done over the years by copying and reworking other artists images, but for some reason it's not acceptable for Thirsty Bstrd? I don't know the answer I'm just throwing the questions about coz I'm interested to hear what you all think. There is no difference which is why the execution is so important. The work posted above is not executed well and is a sloppy and lazy execution of pushing a button in adobe illustrator. Very little time and effort went into making those and it shows. If you're going to charge people money for the work then at least give them their money's worth.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by frankiefrench on Mar 17, 2017 2:45:50 GMT 1, It's an interesting argument, coz I can't see much difference between what Banksy and other artists have done over the years by copying and reworking other artists images, but for some reason it's not acceptable for Thirsty Bstrd? I don't know the answer I'm just throwing the questions about coz I'm interested to hear what you all think. I do see a difference, a big difference and i'll attempt to explain my own personal take on this which does of course not make it fact but rather subjective. First of all when Banksy did Kate Moss, although it wasn't actually him but thats another conversation, there had been a gap of decades and in that time enough rest space for a new icon to come along and serve some relevance in terms of comparison, ie being held a loft as a 'new' so and so, celebrated, canonised and then demonised in and by the media. Here today, gone tomorrow, celebrities have their day in the spotlight, fall from grace and bounce back again or not as the case may be. Using Kate was clever, witty even, a British icon offered up by another, a prankster in the great tradition of pop and agit prop. To simply come out of nowhere, literally nowhere with no history or lineage and start hashing up weak and meaningless riffs on Star Wars pictures is just garbage and the stuff of every high school art room project for the last 10 years or so. It has been done and done to death, and in this case particularly badly! Images thrown together for the sake of trying to be popular or funny or whatever the hell he is trying so desperately to be just leaves me cold. Just my opinion but we are in danger of going down a dead end with this high contrast black and white photo tracing nonsense, I correct that, we have ALREADY gone way too far down that back alley and its become a very easy to dismiss and pigeonhole urban flash in the pan. All of the lookalikes and wannabes will fade away having made a quick buck and leave their owners with a tacky collection of bad art that should be gracing the digital canvas sin bin of high street tat shops such as the Works.
It's an interesting argument, coz I can't see much difference between what Banksy and other artists have done over the years by copying and reworking other artists images, but for some reason it's not acceptable for Thirsty Bstrd? I don't know the answer I'm just throwing the questions about coz I'm interested to hear what you all think. I do see a difference, a big difference and i'll attempt to explain my own personal take on this which does of course not make it fact but rather subjective. First of all when Banksy did Kate Moss, although it wasn't actually him but thats another conversation, there had been a gap of decades and in that time enough rest space for a new icon to come along and serve some relevance in terms of comparison, ie being held a loft as a 'new' so and so, celebrated, canonised and then demonised in and by the media. Here today, gone tomorrow, celebrities have their day in the spotlight, fall from grace and bounce back again or not as the case may be. Using Kate was clever, witty even, a British icon offered up by another, a prankster in the great tradition of pop and agit prop. To simply come out of nowhere, literally nowhere with no history or lineage and start hashing up weak and meaningless riffs on Star Wars pictures is just garbage and the stuff of every high school art room project for the last 10 years or so. It has been done and done to death, and in this case particularly badly! Images thrown together for the sake of trying to be popular or funny or whatever the hell he is trying so desperately to be just leaves me cold. Just my opinion but we are in danger of going down a dead end with this high contrast black and white photo tracing nonsense, I correct that, we have ALREADY gone way too far down that back alley and its become a very easy to dismiss and pigeonhole urban flash in the pan. All of the lookalikes and wannabes will fade away having made a quick buck and leave their owners with a tacky collection of bad art that should be gracing the digital canvas sin bin of high street tat shops such as the Works.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by frankiefrench on Mar 17, 2017 2:48:56 GMT 1, Although the Works does have its good points, Street Sketchbook Journeys a recent pick up
Although the Works does have its good points, Street Sketchbook Journeys a recent pick up
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by randomname on Mar 17, 2017 3:24:48 GMT 1, It's an interesting argument, coz I can't see much difference between what Banksy and other artists have done over the years by copying and reworking other artists images, but for some reason it's not acceptable for Thirsty Bstrd? I don't know the answer I'm just throwing the questions about coz I'm interested to hear what you all think.
I think the difference is Banksy was already established on his own artistic merits. When one great artist pays homage to another, it's a compliment.
That's not the case with what you posted here. This guy relies entirely on Banksy's creativity. That, in my opinion, is not art.
It's an interesting argument, coz I can't see much difference between what Banksy and other artists have done over the years by copying and reworking other artists images, but for some reason it's not acceptable for Thirsty Bstrd? I don't know the answer I'm just throwing the questions about coz I'm interested to hear what you all think. I think the difference is Banksy was already established on his own artistic merits. When one great artist pays homage to another, it's a compliment. That's not the case with what you posted here. This guy relies entirely on Banksy's creativity. That, in my opinion, is not art.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by Hairbland on Mar 17, 2017 6:18:10 GMT 1, It's an interesting argument, coz I can't see much difference between what Banksy and other artists have done over the years by copying and reworking other artists images, but for some reason it's not acceptable for Thirsty Bstrd? I don't know the answer I'm just throwing the questions about coz I'm interested to hear what you all think. I think the difference is Banksy was already established on his own artistic merits. When one great artist pays homage to another, it's a compliment. That's not the case with what you posted here. This guy relies entirely on Banksy's creativity. That, in my opinion, is not art.
I also think it was more than paying homage to Warhol. It was substituting an over the top hyper sexualized British icon for a different era American one. Warhol doing Marilyn made her a commodity, much like shoes or Brillo, which is what pop culture is. Kate an update, with reference to the master. Just my 2 cents.
It's an interesting argument, coz I can't see much difference between what Banksy and other artists have done over the years by copying and reworking other artists images, but for some reason it's not acceptable for Thirsty Bstrd? I don't know the answer I'm just throwing the questions about coz I'm interested to hear what you all think. I think the difference is Banksy was already established on his own artistic merits. When one great artist pays homage to another, it's a compliment. That's not the case with what you posted here. This guy relies entirely on Banksy's creativity. That, in my opinion, is not art. I also think it was more than paying homage to Warhol. It was substituting an over the top hyper sexualized British icon for a different era American one. Warhol doing Marilyn made her a commodity, much like shoes or Brillo, which is what pop culture is. Kate an update, with reference to the master. Just my 2 cents.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by randomname on Mar 17, 2017 16:20:21 GMT 1, I think it's also interesting that he chose artists who were initially mocked by the art establishment and later became pillars of that establishment. It's almost as if he were sending a message about how he would later be perceived.
I think it's also interesting that he chose artists who were initially mocked by the art establishment and later became pillars of that establishment. It's almost as if he were sending a message about how he would later be perceived.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by Con Art Studio on Mar 17, 2017 17:46:30 GMT 1, I think the difference is Banksy was already established on his own artistic merits. When one great artist pays homage to another, it's a compliment. That's not the case with what you posted here. This guy relies entirely on Banksy's creativity. That, in my opinion, is not art. I also think it was more than paying homage to Warhol. It was substituting an over the top hyper sexualized British icon for a different era American one. Warhol doing Marilyn made her a commodity, much like shoes or Brillo, which is what pop culture is. Kate an update, with reference to the master. Just my 2 cents. i agree and that logic works with particular image... but in with the tesco soup can image banksy did, there's no difference.
I think the difference is Banksy was already established on his own artistic merits. When one great artist pays homage to another, it's a compliment. That's not the case with what you posted here. This guy relies entirely on Banksy's creativity. That, in my opinion, is not art. I also think it was more than paying homage to Warhol. It was substituting an over the top hyper sexualized British icon for a different era American one. Warhol doing Marilyn made her a commodity, much like shoes or Brillo, which is what pop culture is. Kate an update, with reference to the master. Just my 2 cents. i agree and that logic works with particular image... but in with the tesco soup can image banksy did, there's no difference.
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nobokov
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by nobokov on Mar 17, 2017 19:51:51 GMT 1, It's an interesting argument, coz I can't see much difference between what Banksy and other artists have done over the years by copying and reworking other artists images, but for some reason it's not acceptable for Thirsty Bstrd? I don't know the answer I'm just throwing the questions about coz I'm interested to hear what you all think. Hard to say, subjective arguments are what they are, but I think the forum is largely in agreement over the over-use of Star Wars imagery. I was always partial to Star Trek. I'd love to see Data hugging a bomb or Geordi with a paint can.
It's an interesting argument, coz I can't see much difference between what Banksy and other artists have done over the years by copying and reworking other artists images, but for some reason it's not acceptable for Thirsty Bstrd? I don't know the answer I'm just throwing the questions about coz I'm interested to hear what you all think. Hard to say, subjective arguments are what they are, but I think the forum is largely in agreement over the over-use of Star Wars imagery. I was always partial to Star Trek. I'd love to see Data hugging a bomb or Geordi with a paint can.
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sakesake
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by sakesake on Mar 17, 2017 19:56:55 GMT 1, Obviously Banksy ripped off Warhol, although I see it more as a quote rather than imitation due to a lack of creativity. They are my least favorites Banksy too. Choose Your Weapon is a sort of rip off as well but at least it's done in a creative way. Just my 2 cents. If the piece is clearly a homage to another artist, is rip off the right phrase? Not to my mind. Same comment to Daniel Silk 's posting of the Kate. You're right coach; I didn't fully meant to say rip off, that's why I said it was a quote (as an homage). I feel limited when I speak english.
Obviously Banksy ripped off Warhol, although I see it more as a quote rather than imitation due to a lack of creativity. They are my least favorites Banksy too. Choose Your Weapon is a sort of rip off as well but at least it's done in a creative way. Just my 2 cents. If the piece is clearly a homage to another artist, is rip off the right phrase? Not to my mind. Same comment to Daniel Silk 's posting of the Kate. You're right coach; I didn't fully meant to say rip off, that's why I said it was a quote (as an homage). I feel limited when I speak english.
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Thirsty Bstrd - Banksy Images?, by Coach on Mar 17, 2017 20:10:05 GMT 1, If the piece is clearly a homage to another artist, is rip off the right phrase? Not to my mind. Same comment to Daniel Silk 's posting of the Kate. You're right coach; I didn't fully meant to say rip off, that's why I said it was a quote (as an homage). I feel limited when I speak english.
English is not your first language? If so, please let me applaud your superb grasp of it. I understand what you mean now, thank you.
If the piece is clearly a homage to another artist, is rip off the right phrase? Not to my mind. Same comment to Daniel Silk 's posting of the Kate. You're right coach; I didn't fully meant to say rip off, that's why I said it was a quote (as an homage). I feel limited when I speak english. English is not your first language? If so, please let me applaud your superb grasp of it. I understand what you mean now, thank you.
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