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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Jonny Wednesday on Sept 5, 2020 19:44:51 GMT 1, Hey Fusion0001, Keen to understand how you put the figures together a little more, as I'm sure others are as well. Its certainly seems to becoming a reference point / guide for prices at the moment. It looks like you dont apply the same percentage gain to all prints. If you look at U/S laugh now, thats jumped from 50k to 70k, even though one wasnt sold as part of the Forum Auction. Very Little Helps did sell for 56k hammer, which with cost was over 76k but is only marked at 49k. U/S WSM wasn't in the auction yesterday now up at 35k, which is more than a signed version, which was sold yesterday. I really want to believe in these figures, even though they gave me a restless night last night, I have to say I am a little skeptical atm - please dont take that as a criticism - I really want these figure to be correct or as close as can be and I think its a great resource ! But understanding a bit more behind the math might help convince me this is for real. Should I be ignoring the "Print Value (auto)" column and focus on "Print value (expert range)" instead to get a guide on value? I looked a bit into the issue and have slightly tweaked the algorithm so that it reacts faster to price moves. This has now fixed some of the issues you have observed. To summarize how the calculations on www.banksy-value.com work now:
BPI is the print value index, which is calculated as value-weighted average price of all Banksy prints (always taking the last observed sales price in auction) indexed to 2008 price level equal 100. There is no extrapolation; only actual sales data. Print value (auto) is calculated as follows - If the print has been sold in last 3 months then I take the average of all sales prices over last 3 months and multiply it by how much BPI has increased over the period since last observed sale (e.g. WSM unsigned was sold for 22.5k in June and index has gone up from around 750 to around 1150, so the price for it is projected at 1150/750*22.5k=35k
- If the print has not sold in last 3 months I take single latest sales value and multiply it by index increase
Print value (expert) is a manual update that I do. It takes some days for me to run through the list and do a proper update (will do over the weekend) Hope this helps clarify. And thanks for the observation, which helped improve the estimates!
Thanks Fusion !! I see how you're doing this now ! I do data migration for a job, so always keen to look at data and how its generated. Sad, yes, I know  . i'm a data geek, I cant help it.
Anyway, very much appreciated. Didn't expect you to work the weekend on it 
I do hope you get some recognition from the site and get some advertising revenue for all your hard work.
Hey Fusion0001, Keen to understand how you put the figures together a little more, as I'm sure others are as well. Its certainly seems to becoming a reference point / guide for prices at the moment. It looks like you dont apply the same percentage gain to all prints. If you look at U/S laugh now, thats jumped from 50k to 70k, even though one wasnt sold as part of the Forum Auction. Very Little Helps did sell for 56k hammer, which with cost was over 76k but is only marked at 49k. U/S WSM wasn't in the auction yesterday now up at 35k, which is more than a signed version, which was sold yesterday. I really want to believe in these figures, even though they gave me a restless night last night, I have to say I am a little skeptical atm - please dont take that as a criticism - I really want these figure to be correct or as close as can be and I think its a great resource ! But understanding a bit more behind the math might help convince me this is for real. Should I be ignoring the "Print Value (auto)" column and focus on "Print value (expert range)" instead to get a guide on value? I looked a bit into the issue and have slightly tweaked the algorithm so that it reacts faster to price moves. This has now fixed some of the issues you have observed. To summarize how the calculations on www.banksy-value.com work now:
BPI is the print value index, which is calculated as value-weighted average price of all Banksy prints (always taking the last observed sales price in auction) indexed to 2008 price level equal 100. There is no extrapolation; only actual sales data. Print value (auto) is calculated as follows - If the print has been sold in last 3 months then I take the average of all sales prices over last 3 months and multiply it by how much BPI has increased over the period since last observed sale (e.g. WSM unsigned was sold for 22.5k in June and index has gone up from around 750 to around 1150, so the price for it is projected at 1150/750*22.5k=35k
- If the print has not sold in last 3 months I take single latest sales value and multiply it by index increase
Print value (expert) is a manual update that I do. It takes some days for me to run through the list and do a proper update (will do over the weekend) Hope this helps clarify. And thanks for the observation, which helped improve the estimates! Thanks Fusion !! I see how you're doing this now ! I do data migration for a job, so always keen to look at data and how its generated. Sad, yes, I know . i'm a data geek, I cant help it. Anyway, very much appreciated. Didn't expect you to work the weekend on it I do hope you get some recognition from the site and get some advertising revenue for all your hard work. |
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Karl Read on Sept 9, 2020 14:20:17 GMT 1, Buyers paid the following Inc BP, VAT and ARR CND Solders US Β£32,160.00 Have a Nice Day S Β£53,600.00 Grannies (POW) US Β£42,880.00 Very Little Helps S Β£75,040.00 Weston Super Mare S Β£40,200.00 Toxic Mary US Β£29,480.00 Wrong War S Β£37,520.00 Girl With Balloon US Β£176,880.00 Rude Copper (Sprayed) S Β£167,500.00 Napalm US Β£38,860.00 Queen Vic US Β£38,860.00 Trolleys (BW POW) US Β£50,920.00 Applause (POW) US Β£37,520.00 Soup Can S Β£68,340.00 I Fought The Law S Β£50,920.00 Grannies (POW) S Β£67,000.00 Donuts (Strawberry) S Β£80,400.00 Jack & Jill S Β£73,700.00 Bar Code US Β£73,700.00 Choose Your Weapon (Cool Gray) S Β£99,160.00 Happy Choppers S Β£67,000.00 Toxic Mary S Β£48,240.00 Morons (Sepia) S Β£67,000.00 Turf War US Β£64,320.00
Β£99k for a grey CYW!
Surely this growth cant carry on?
Buyers paid the following Inc BP, VAT and ARR CND Solders US Β£32,160.00 Have a Nice Day S Β£53,600.00 Grannies (POW) US Β£42,880.00 Very Little Helps S Β£75,040.00 Weston Super Mare S Β£40,200.00 Toxic Mary US Β£29,480.00 Wrong War S Β£37,520.00 Girl With Balloon US Β£176,880.00 Rude Copper (Sprayed) S Β£167,500.00 Napalm US Β£38,860.00 Queen Vic US Β£38,860.00 Trolleys (BW POW) US Β£50,920.00 Applause (POW) US Β£37,520.00 Soup Can S Β£68,340.00 I Fought The Law S Β£50,920.00 Grannies (POW) S Β£67,000.00 Donuts (Strawberry) S Β£80,400.00 Jack & Jill S Β£73,700.00 Bar Code US Β£73,700.00 Choose Your Weapon (Cool Gray) S Β£99,160.00 Happy Choppers S Β£67,000.00 Toxic Mary S Β£48,240.00 Morons (Sepia) S Β£67,000.00 Turf War US Β£64,320.00 Wow, strong results! Β£99k for a grey CYW! Surely this growth cant carry on? |
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Dive Jedi on Sept 9, 2020 14:24:00 GMT 1, Buyers paid the following Inc BP, VAT and ARR CND Solders US Β£32,160.00 Have a Nice Day S Β£53,600.00 Grannies (POW) US Β£42,880.00 Very Little Helps S Β£75,040.00 Weston Super Mare S Β£40,200.00 Toxic Mary US Β£29,480.00 Wrong War S Β£37,520.00 Girl With Balloon US Β£176,880.00 Rude Copper (Sprayed) S Β£167,500.00 Napalm US Β£38,860.00 Queen Vic US Β£38,860.00 Trolleys (BW POW) US Β£50,920.00 Applause (POW) US Β£37,520.00 Soup Can S Β£68,340.00 I Fought The Law S Β£50,920.00 Grannies (POW) S Β£67,000.00 Donuts (Strawberry) S Β£80,400.00 Jack & Jill S Β£73,700.00 Bar Code US Β£73,700.00 Choose Your Weapon (Cool Gray) S Β£99,160.00 Happy Choppers S Β£67,000.00 Toxic Mary S Β£48,240.00 Morons (Sepia) S Β£67,000.00 Turf War US Β£64,320.00 Wow, strong results! Β£99k for a grey Choose Your Weapon! Surely this growth cant carry on?
And 2 years ago.
And 5 years ago.
Buyers paid the following Inc BP, VAT and ARR CND Solders US Β£32,160.00 Have a Nice Day S Β£53,600.00 Grannies (POW) US Β£42,880.00 Very Little Helps S Β£75,040.00 Weston Super Mare S Β£40,200.00 Toxic Mary US Β£29,480.00 Wrong War S Β£37,520.00 Girl With Balloon US Β£176,880.00 Rude Copper (Sprayed) S Β£167,500.00 Napalm US Β£38,860.00 Queen Vic US Β£38,860.00 Trolleys (BW POW) US Β£50,920.00 Applause (POW) US Β£37,520.00 Soup Can S Β£68,340.00 I Fought The Law S Β£50,920.00 Grannies (POW) S Β£67,000.00 Donuts (Strawberry) S Β£80,400.00 Jack & Jill S Β£73,700.00 Bar Code US Β£73,700.00 Choose Your Weapon (Cool Gray) S Β£99,160.00 Happy Choppers S Β£67,000.00 Toxic Mary S Β£48,240.00 Morons (Sepia) S Β£67,000.00 Turf War US Β£64,320.00 Wow, strong results! Β£99k for a grey Choose Your Weapon! Surely this growth cant carry on?Yeah, that's what they said last year. And 2 years ago. And 5 years ago. |
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Karl Read on Sept 9, 2020 14:31:03 GMT 1, Wow, strong results! Β£99k for a grey Choose Your Weapon! Surely this growth cant carry on?Yeah, that's what they said last year. And 2 years ago. And 5 years ago.
Wow, strong results! Β£99k for a grey Choose Your Weapon! Surely this growth cant carry on?Yeah, that's what they said last year. And 2 years ago. And 5 years ago. Very true but the recent growth seems to be on a particularly steeper curve. |
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by buffin on Sept 9, 2020 15:21:35 GMT 1, Yeah, that's what they said last year. And 2 years ago. And 5 years ago. Very true but the recent growth seems to be on a particularly steeper curve.Β
Agreed and things canβt continue at the same rate unless the Β£ tanks. There are likely to be a number of prints on the market soon as these are life changing amounts of money. That in itself is likely to cool things down. All just my opinion.
Yeah, that's what they said last year. And 2 years ago. And 5 years ago. Very true but the recent growth seems to be on a particularly steeper curve.Β Agreed and things canβt continue at the same rate unless the Β£ tanks. There are likely to be a number of prints on the market soon as these are life changing amounts of money. That in itself is likely to cool things down. All just my opinion. |
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Viscount Jerkoff on Sept 16, 2020 3:06:02 GMT 1, Hey Fusion0001, Keen to understand how you put the figures together a little more, as I'm sure others are as well. Its certainly seems to becoming a reference point / guide for prices at the moment. It looks like you dont apply the same percentage gain to all prints. If you look at U/S laugh now, thats jumped from 50k to 70k, even though one wasnt sold as part of the Forum Auction. Very Little Helps did sell for 56k hammer, which with cost was over 76k but is only marked at 49k. U/S WSM wasn't in the auction yesterday now up at 35k, which is more than a signed version, which was sold yesterday. I really want to believe in these figures, even though they gave me a restless night last night, I have to say I am a little skeptical atm - please dont take that as a criticism - I really want these figure to be correct or as close as can be and I think its a great resource ! But understanding a bit more behind the math might help convince me this is for real. Should I be ignoring the "Print Value (auto)" column and focus on "Print value (expert range)" instead to get a guide on value?Β I looked a bit into the issue and have slightly tweaked the algorithm so that it reacts faster to price moves. This has now fixed some of the issues you have observed. To summarize how the calculations on www.banksy-value.com work now:
BPI is the print value index, which is calculated as value-weighted average price of all Banksy prints (always taking the last observed sales price in auction) indexed to 2008 price level equal 100. There is no extrapolation; only actual sales data. Print value (auto) is calculated as follows - If the print has been sold in last 3 months then I take the average of all sales prices over last 3 months and multiply it by how much BPI has increased over the period since last observed sale (e.g. WSM unsigned was sold for 22.5k in June and index has gone up from around 750 to around 1150, so the price for it is projected at 1150/750*22.5k=35k
- If the print has not sold in last 3 months I take single latest sales value and multiply it by index increase
Print value (expert) is a manual update that I do. It takes some days for me to run through the list and do a proper update (will do over the weekend) Hope this helps clarify. And thanks for the observation, which helped improve the estimates!
Hi Fusion,
Realizing that you are in charge of the Banksy-value website, which is awesome btw. I was wondering if you would/could add Napalm: Canβt beat the feeling, Serpentine edition, B&W with hand finished blood splatter. And Dumbo.
I guess Dumbo doesnβt come up very much. There is a gallery in the USA that has one listed at $1million usd, which is silly, but I would put it at Β£3-500k in this climate
Hey Fusion0001, Keen to understand how you put the figures together a little more, as I'm sure others are as well. Its certainly seems to becoming a reference point / guide for prices at the moment. It looks like you dont apply the same percentage gain to all prints. If you look at U/S laugh now, thats jumped from 50k to 70k, even though one wasnt sold as part of the Forum Auction. Very Little Helps did sell for 56k hammer, which with cost was over 76k but is only marked at 49k. U/S WSM wasn't in the auction yesterday now up at 35k, which is more than a signed version, which was sold yesterday. I really want to believe in these figures, even though they gave me a restless night last night, I have to say I am a little skeptical atm - please dont take that as a criticism - I really want these figure to be correct or as close as can be and I think its a great resource ! But understanding a bit more behind the math might help convince me this is for real. Should I be ignoring the "Print Value (auto)" column and focus on "Print value (expert range)" instead to get a guide on value?Β I looked a bit into the issue and have slightly tweaked the algorithm so that it reacts faster to price moves. This has now fixed some of the issues you have observed. To summarize how the calculations on www.banksy-value.com work now:
BPI is the print value index, which is calculated as value-weighted average price of all Banksy prints (always taking the last observed sales price in auction) indexed to 2008 price level equal 100. There is no extrapolation; only actual sales data. Print value (auto) is calculated as follows - If the print has been sold in last 3 months then I take the average of all sales prices over last 3 months and multiply it by how much BPI has increased over the period since last observed sale (e.g. WSM unsigned was sold for 22.5k in June and index has gone up from around 750 to around 1150, so the price for it is projected at 1150/750*22.5k=35k
- If the print has not sold in last 3 months I take single latest sales value and multiply it by index increase
Print value (expert) is a manual update that I do. It takes some days for me to run through the list and do a proper update (will do over the weekend) Hope this helps clarify. And thanks for the observation, which helped improve the estimates! Hi Fusion, Realizing that you are in charge of the Banksy-value website, which is awesome btw. I was wondering if you would/could add Napalm: Canβt beat the feeling, Serpentine edition, B&W with hand finished blood splatter. And Dumbo. I guess Dumbo doesnβt come up very much. There is a gallery in the USA that has one listed at $1million usd, which is silly, but I would put it at Β£3-500k in this climate |
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by fusion0001 on Sept 16, 2020 7:18:00 GMT 1, I looked a bit into the issue and have slightly tweaked the algorithm so that it reacts faster to price moves. This has now fixed some of the issues you have observed. To summarize how the calculations on www.banksy-value.com work now:
BPI is the print value index, which is calculated as value-weighted average price of all Banksy prints (always taking the last observed sales price in auction) indexed to 2008 price level equal 100. There is no extrapolation; only actual sales data. Print value (auto) is calculated as follows - If the print has been sold in last 3 months then I take the average of all sales prices over last 3 months and multiply it by how much BPI has increased over the period since last observed sale (e.g. WSM unsigned was sold for 22.5k in June and index has gone up from around 750 to around 1150, so the price for it is projected at 1150/750*22.5k=35k
- If the print has not sold in last 3 months I take single latest sales value and multiply it by index increase
Print value (expert) is a manual update that I do. It takes some days for me to run through the list and do a proper update (will do over the weekend) Hope this helps clarify. And thanks for the observation, which helped improve the estimates! Hi Fusion, Realizing that you are in charge of the Banksy-value website, which is awesome btw. I was wondering if you would/could add Napalm: Canβt beat the feeling, Serpentine edition, B&W with hand finished blood splatter. And Dumbo. I guess Dumbo doesnβt come up very much. There is a gallery in the USA that has one listed at $1million usd, which is silly, but I would put it at Β£3-500k in this climate
Will add it to the list. Have quite a few prints I need to add
- Nola yellow
- Split gold flag
- CYW queue jumper
- Napalm Serpentine
- ...
It is a bit of an effort but I will one day try to make these changes
I looked a bit into the issue and have slightly tweaked the algorithm so that it reacts faster to price moves. This has now fixed some of the issues you have observed. To summarize how the calculations on www.banksy-value.com work now:
BPI is the print value index, which is calculated as value-weighted average price of all Banksy prints (always taking the last observed sales price in auction) indexed to 2008 price level equal 100. There is no extrapolation; only actual sales data. Print value (auto) is calculated as follows - If the print has been sold in last 3 months then I take the average of all sales prices over last 3 months and multiply it by how much BPI has increased over the period since last observed sale (e.g. WSM unsigned was sold for 22.5k in June and index has gone up from around 750 to around 1150, so the price for it is projected at 1150/750*22.5k=35k
- If the print has not sold in last 3 months I take single latest sales value and multiply it by index increase
Print value (expert) is a manual update that I do. It takes some days for me to run through the list and do a proper update (will do over the weekend) Hope this helps clarify. And thanks for the observation, which helped improve the estimates! Hi Fusion, Realizing that you are in charge of the Banksy-value website, which is awesome btw. I was wondering if you would/could add Napalm: Canβt beat the feeling, Serpentine edition, B&W with hand finished blood splatter. And Dumbo. I guess Dumbo doesnβt come up very much. There is a gallery in the USA that has one listed at $1million usd, which is silly, but I would put it at Β£3-500k in this climate Will add it to the list. Have quite a few prints I need to add - Nola yellow - Split gold flag - CYW queue jumper - Napalm Serpentine - ... It is a bit of an effort but I will one day try to make these changes |
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 7:25:14 GMT 1, Hi Fusion, Realizing that you are in charge of the Banksy-value website, which is awesome btw. I was wondering if you would/could add Napalm: Canβt beat the feeling, Serpentine edition, B&W with hand finished blood splatter. And Dumbo. I guess Dumbo doesnβt come up very much. There is a gallery in the USA that has one listed at $1million usd, which is silly, but I would put it at Β£3-500k in this climate Will add it to the list. Have quite a few prints I need to add - Nola yellow - Split gold flag - Choose Your Weapon queue jumper - Napalm Serpentine - ... It is a bit of an effort but I will one day try to make these changes
Hi Fusion, Realizing that you are in charge of the Banksy-value website, which is awesome btw. I was wondering if you would/could add Napalm: Canβt beat the feeling, Serpentine edition, B&W with hand finished blood splatter. And Dumbo. I guess Dumbo doesnβt come up very much. There is a gallery in the USA that has one listed at $1million usd, which is silly, but I would put it at Β£3-500k in this climate Will add it to the list. Have quite a few prints I need to add - Nola yellow - Split gold flag - Choose Your Weapon queue jumper - Napalm Serpentine - ... It is a bit of an effort but I will one day try to make these changes Banksquait..... |
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 7:28:46 GMT 1, Will add it to the list. Have quite a few prints I need to add - Nola yellow - Split gold flag - Choose Your Weapon queue jumper - Napalm Serpentine - ... It is a bit of an effort but I will one day try to make these changes Banksquait.....
Will add it to the list. Have quite a few prints I need to add - Nola yellow - Split gold flag - Choose Your Weapon queue jumper - Napalm Serpentine - ... It is a bit of an effort but I will one day try to make these changes Banksquait..... Also change βtemporary offerβ to βIβm a Banksy dealerβ - itβs not temporary, we all know that. |
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by fusion0001 on Sept 16, 2020 10:03:22 GMT 1, Will add it to the list. Have quite a few prints I need to add - Nola yellow - Split gold flag - Choose Your Weapon queue jumper - Napalm Serpentine - ... It is a bit of an effort but I will one day try to make these changes Banksquait.....
Added also to the list!
PS. Will indeed update the offer later as well. But to be fair I pretty much only buy prints exactly as my offer says, as it makes no sense to sell anything in the current market π Also I happily offer friends or people who ask kindly to put their print for sale on the site.
Will add it to the list. Have quite a few prints I need to add - Nola yellow - Split gold flag - Choose Your Weapon queue jumper - Napalm Serpentine - ... It is a bit of an effort but I will one day try to make these changes Banksquait..... Added also to the list! PS. Will indeed update the offer later as well. But to be fair I pretty much only buy prints exactly as my offer says, as it makes no sense to sell anything in the current market π Also I happily offer friends or people who ask kindly to put their print for sale on the site. |
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by joey on Sept 22, 2020 15:49:53 GMT 1, They haven't released the list yet but it will only be Banksy works auctioned - will the prices keep rising?
They haven't released the list yet but it will only be Banksy works auctioned - will the prices keep rising?
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by therivler1 on Sept 22, 2020 15:52:52 GMT 1, 
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by JD on Sept 22, 2020 22:44:10 GMT 1, Ah man not another ****ing auction. I just don't want to know anymore. I don't want to know how much the print that I've sold is now worth..  And I don't want to know how much the prints that I have still got are now worth... Enough already.
Goose we need a beer . Call me
Ah man not another ****ing auction. I just don't want to know anymore. I don't want to know how much the print that I've sold is now worth.. And I don't want to know how much the prints that I have still got are now worth... Enough already. Goose we need a beer . Call me |
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by JD on Sept 22, 2020 22:47:29 GMT 1, They haven't released the list yet but it will only be Banksy works auctioned - will the prices keep rising?
Only if the galleryβs and insiders holding stock bid them up . Itβs the last un regulated market left
*edit I own Banksy prints and this is great but ....... wake up
BBay Sale starts tomorrow
They haven't released the list yet but it will only be Banksy works auctioned - will the prices keep rising? Only if the galleryβs and insiders holding stock bid them up . Itβs the last un regulated market left *edit I own Banksy prints and this is great but ....... wake up BBay Sale starts tomorrow |
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by LJCal on Sept 22, 2020 22:59:54 GMT 1, I am amazed more people haven't questioned the unsigned, board mounted LIITA that went for over Β£200k, when you could have 'easily' picked one up from Β£30+k .
I am amazed more people haven't questioned the unsigned, board mounted LIITA that went for over Β£200k, when you could have 'easily' picked one up from Β£30+k . People must not question, everything is normal, auction results are 100% legit. Come on everyone buy, buy, buy, another 20% gain to be had this week! |
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by 18921892 on Sept 22, 2020 23:04:08 GMT 1, I am amazed more people haven't questioned the unsigned, board mounted LIITA that went for over Β£200k, when you could have 'easily' picked one up from Β£30+k .
I am amazed more people haven't questioned the unsigned, board mounted LIITA that went for over Β£200k, when you could have 'easily' picked one up from Β£30+k . There weren't any unsigned LIITA pre Sothebys for Β£30k. They had past that long ago. |
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by LJCal on Sept 22, 2020 23:07:03 GMT 1, I was offered a LIITA unsigned in May for Β£35k, Β£35-200k in 4 months is manipulated
I was offered a LIITA unsigned in May for Β£35k, Β£35-200k in 4 months is manipulated
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by LJCal on Sept 22, 2020 23:13:31 GMT 1, I was offered a LIITA unsigned in May for Β£35k, Β£35-200k in 4 months is manipulated I bet it's Steve using some of his book and tenner money to keep driving up the cost of Tenners.
I was offered a LIITA unsigned in May for Β£35k, Β£35-200k in 4 months is manipulated I bet it's Steve using some of his book and tenner money to keep driving up the cost of Tenners. Haha probably, he only has to sell a couple hundred tenners and the Liitas paid for |
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by therivler1 on Sept 22, 2020 23:18:20 GMT 1, don't forget there was a stop at Β£75k along the way at Forum.
Another way to look at it is that they were woefully undervalued in comparison to Girl With Balloon.
I'm not saying it all makes sense, but there hasn't been a signed one at auction in three years. In that time there have been almost 10 signed Girl With Balloon. And if one were to believe that LIITA is on par with GWB, it makes a little more sense. Not a whole lot more, though, as the buyers could have saved themselves Β£100k by just stopping bidding and picking them up on secondary.
don't forget there was a stop at Β£75k along the way at Forum.
Another way to look at it is that they were woefully undervalued in comparison to Girl With Balloon.
I'm not saying it all makes sense, but there hasn't been a signed one at auction in three years. In that time there have been almost 10 signed Girl With Balloon. And if one were to believe that LIITA is on par with GWB, it makes a little more sense. Not a whole lot more, though, as the buyers could have saved themselves Β£100k by just stopping bidding and picking them up on secondary.
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Pawel on Sept 22, 2020 23:52:03 GMT 1, To be honest I wasn't meaning to start a debate on it...but is this the future of this forum now? Talking about auction sales? There seems to be one every month - so that's a grim thought.
To be honest I wasn't meaning to start a debate on it...but is this the future of this forum now? Talking about auction sales? There seems to be one every month - so that's a grim thought. No worries, when the cheapest banksy print is over $1m in the near future, most people here will sell theirs, and the the auction sales wonβt be discussed as much. |
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by 18921892 on Sept 22, 2020 23:54:23 GMT 1, To be honest I wasn't meaning to start a debate on it...but is this the future of this forum now? Talking about auction sales? There seems to be one every month - so that's a grim thought.
To be honest I wasn't meaning to start a debate on it...but is this the future of this forum now? Talking about auction sales? There seems to be one every month - so that's a grim thought. Maybe don't comment on those threads if it bothers you that much, then members won't respond to your posts regarding auctions. Or maybe start a thread about something that you would enjoy more. |
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Pawel on Sept 23, 2020 0:01:05 GMT 1, To be honest I wasn't meaning to start a debate on it...but is this the future of this forum now? Talking about auction sales? There seems to be one every month - so that's a grim thought. Maybe don't comment on those threads if it bothers you that much, then members won't respond to your posts regarding auctions. Or maybe start a thread about something that you would enjoy more.
urbanartassociation.com/thread/166000/photography-releases-thread
While weβre at it. Wanna buy my first Don McCullin album. Any recommendations anyone?
To be honest I wasn't meaning to start a debate on it...but is this the future of this forum now? Talking about auction sales? There seems to be one every month - so that's a grim thought. Maybe don't comment on those threads if it bothers you that much, then members won't respond to your posts regarding auctions. Or maybe start a thread about something that you would enjoy more. Exactly, for example here is a totally awesome thread (8 posts)about photography: urbanartassociation.com/thread/166000/photography-releases-threadWhile weβre at it. Wanna buy my first Don McCullin album. Any recommendations anyone? |
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by therivler1 on Oct 2, 2020 17:26:00 GMT 1, nice - another unsigned LIITA to see if the last one was a fluke. and finally a signed barcode, which I think we'll see some fireworks on.
nice - another unsigned LIITA to see if the last one was a fluke. and finally a signed barcode, which I think we'll see some fireworks on.
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by saint on Oct 2, 2020 20:55:46 GMT 1, Another soup can edition of 10, theyβre like buses!
Another soup can edition of 10, theyβre like buses!
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Jonny Wednesday on Oct 2, 2020 21:12:40 GMT 1, with all the auctions this month and with a good set of Banksy prints, we should get a good idea what the market is doing.
with all the auctions this month and with a good set of Banksy prints, we should get a good idea what the market is doing.
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Number48 on Oct 2, 2020 21:42:30 GMT 1, Another soup can edition of 10, theyβre like buses!
When you say another!?
Another soup can edition of 10, theyβre like buses! When you say another!? |
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by saint on Oct 2, 2020 22:00:18 GMT 1, Another soup can edition of 10, theyβre like buses! When you say another!?
Thereβs one at Tate Wardβs next sale.
Another soup can edition of 10, theyβre like buses! When you say another!? Thereβs one at Tate Wardβs next sale. |
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