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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by pr.yu on Aug 5, 2017 19:18:18 GMT 1, I think you mean rancour. I CAN HAS AUTHORITY? So much rancor over something so subjective. Like you're all the definitive authority on skill and good taste. If you dont like it, no need to be so angry about it. Most urban art bought and sold and hailed on here doesn't take a ton of talent; it takes ingenuity and a sense of mindfulness of the times. Plus, there's a lot of schtick, too, to make someone popular. That goes for most all of contemporary art as well. If you don't like them, I can send you my address and you can mail the ones you all have in your flat files to me. Apparently I'd be happier than you to have them.
No I meant rancor -- one of the benefits of winning our independence was not putting that stupid "u" in all our wourds.
I think you mean rancour. I CAN HAS AUTHORITY? So much rancor over something so subjective. Like you're all the definitive authority on skill and good taste. If you dont like it, no need to be so angry about it. Most urban art bought and sold and hailed on here doesn't take a ton of talent; it takes ingenuity and a sense of mindfulness of the times. Plus, there's a lot of schtick, too, to make someone popular. That goes for most all of contemporary art as well. If you don't like them, I can send you my address and you can mail the ones you all have in your flat files to me. Apparently I'd be happier than you to have them. No I meant rancor -- one of the benefits of winning our independence was not putting that stupid "u" in all our wourds. |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by thisismyusername on Aug 5, 2017 19:18:23 GMT 1, The demand for this one seems to be coming from Scandinavia. They love it. Over there it's all the rage for living rooms to have light grey paint, 'kinfolk' books on a side table and this print on the wall. They paste it all over insta - more than the Brits love posting pics of avocados. 
The demand for this one seems to be coming from Scandinavia. They love it. Over there it's all the rage for living rooms to have light grey paint, 'kinfolk' books on a side table and this print on the wall. They paste it all over insta - more than the Brits love posting pics of avocados. The bit about kinfolk is spot on though |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by coller on Aug 5, 2017 19:28:21 GMT 1, i don't like martin whatson's work because his characters are created in photoshop and you can tell; those damn grey/white/black layers are such an eyesore. same goes to some other artists...
i like sandra's stuff.
i don't like martin whatson's work because his characters are created in photoshop and you can tell; those damn grey/white/black layers are such an eyesore. same goes to some other artists...
i like sandra's stuff.
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Dive Jedi on Aug 5, 2017 19:30:39 GMT 1, I find neither artists interesting.  Their early work was good though. Not much of a fan of their collaboration or anything else they are doing these days.
I find neither artists interesting. Their early work was good though. Not much of a fan of their collaboration or anything else they are doing these days. So I'm guessing this is not your cup of tea..... |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Poster Bob on Aug 5, 2017 19:37:02 GMT 1, Uneducated is uneducated. Spell check if you a pleb son.
I think you mean rancour. I CAN HAS AUTHORITY? Love it when arguments start to become spelling competitshions
Uneducated is uneducated. Spell check if you a pleb son. I think you mean rancour. I CAN HAS AUTHORITY? Love it when arguments start to become spelling competitshions |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by brycepen on Aug 5, 2017 20:07:02 GMT 1, It's not the abundance of prints it's the abundance of s**t. There is zero quality control in his releases. If he cut it down to say four relevant pieces per year he'd be an absolute superstar. Abundance of prints sure has hurt that Fairey guy. He sure disappeared and has become irrelevant.
I have to agree and say that almost everything fairey releases mostly sucks and also seems like a cash grab. He's relevant now, but releasing a hundred shit prints a year is going to catch up to him (or it should, if the art world has any shred of integrity left in it).
It's not the abundance of prints it's the abundance of s**t. There is zero quality control in his releases. If he cut it down to say four relevant pieces per year he'd be an absolute superstar. Abundance of prints sure has hurt that Fairey guy. He sure disappeared and has become irrelevant. I have to agree and say that almost everything fairey releases mostly sucks and also seems like a cash grab. He's relevant now, but releasing a hundred shit prints a year is going to catch up to him (or it should, if the art world has any shred of integrity left in it). |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by highflyer on Aug 5, 2017 20:12:54 GMT 1, I think you mean rancour. I CAN HAS AUTHORITY? No I meant rancor -- one of the benefits of winning our independence was not putting that stupid "u" in all our wourds.
Racist pruck
I think you mean rancour. I CAN HAS AUTHORITY? No I meant rancor -- one of the benefits of winning our independence was not putting that stupid "u" in all our wourds. Racist pruck |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by pr.yu on Aug 5, 2017 20:19:02 GMT 1, No I meant rancor -- one of the benefits of winning our independence was not putting that stupid "u" in all our wourds. Racist pruck
Racist?! Not an insult I take lightly. Not really sure what you're talking about.
No I meant rancor -- one of the benefits of winning our independence was not putting that stupid "u" in all our wourds. Racist pruck Racist?! Not an insult I take lightly. Not really sure what you're talking about. |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by pr.yu on Aug 5, 2017 20:20:04 GMT 1, Uneducated is uneducated. Spell check if you a pleb son. Love it when arguments start to become spelling competitshions
Happy to compare diplomas any time, friend. Or is it diploumas?
Uneducated is uneducated. Spell check if you a pleb son. Love it when arguments start to become spelling competitshions Happy to compare diplomas any time, friend. Or is it diploumas? |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Daniel Silk on Aug 5, 2017 20:26:44 GMT 1, Please keep this discussion civilised and polite please lads  Talk about the subject rather than personal remarks against each other.
Please keep this discussion civilised and polite please lads Talk about the subject rather than personal remarks against each other. |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Poster Bob on Aug 5, 2017 20:59:11 GMT 1, We can anytime but unless you've got a PhD you've already lost.
Uneducated is uneducated. Spell check if you a pleb son. Happy to compare diplomas any time, friend. Or is it diploumas?
We can anytime but unless you've got a PhD you've already lost. Uneducated is uneducated. Spell check if you a pleb son. Happy to compare diplomas any time, friend. Or is it diploumas? |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by pr.yu on Aug 5, 2017 21:06:27 GMT 1, We can anytime but unless you've got a PhD you've already lost. Happy to compare diplomas any time, friend. Or is it diploumas?
PhD? Is that even a doctor? (Wink, wink)
We can anytime but unless you've got a PhD you've already lost. Happy to compare diplomas any time, friend. Or is it diploumas? PhD? Is that even a doctor? (Wink, wink) |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by highflyer on Aug 5, 2017 21:25:46 GMT 1, We can anytime but unless you've got a PhD you've already lost. Happy to compare diplomas any time, friend. Or is it diploumas?
PhD stands for "2 years ago, the experts told me unsigned Banksy prints are garbage"
Damn it.
We can anytime but unless you've got a PhD you've already lost. Happy to compare diplomas any time, friend. Or is it diploumas? PhD stands for "2 years ago, the experts told me unsigned Banksy prints are garbage" Damn it. |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Poster Bob on Aug 5, 2017 22:03:09 GMT 1, You and every other forum member holding worthless paper. I've sold all of mine to buy signed. No one listens though and it's not like I can actually have a conversation here about the value of a signature given the vested interest in unsigned reproductions.
We can anytime but unless you've got a PhD you've already lost. PhD stands for "2 years ago, the experts told me unsigned Banksy prints are garbage" Damn it.
You and every other forum member holding worthless paper. I've sold all of mine to buy signed. No one listens though and it's not like I can actually have a conversation here about the value of a signature given the vested interest in unsigned reproductions. We can anytime but unless you've got a PhD you've already lost. PhD stands for "2 years ago, the experts told me unsigned Banksy prints are garbage" Damn it. |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by pr.yu on Aug 5, 2017 22:48:07 GMT 1, You and every other forum member holding worthless paper. I've sold all of mine to buy signed. No one listens though and it's not like I can actually have a conversation here about the value of a signature given the vested interest in unsigned reproductions. PhD stands for "2 years ago, the experts told me unsigned Banksy prints are garbage" Damn it.
No one will ever accuse you of being anything but definitive:
Unsigned prints are worthless
Whatson is pathetic
Chevrier is a joke
No wiggle room there. Got it.
You and every other forum member holding worthless paper. I've sold all of mine to buy signed. No one listens though and it's not like I can actually have a conversation here about the value of a signature given the vested interest in unsigned reproductions. PhD stands for "2 years ago, the experts told me unsigned Banksy prints are garbage" Damn it. No one will ever accuse you of being anything but definitive: Unsigned prints are worthless Whatson is pathetic Chevrier is a joke No wiggle room there. Got it. |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by thisismyusername on Aug 5, 2017 23:16:36 GMT 1, I find neither artists interesting. Their early work was good though. Not much of a fan of their collaboration or anything else they are doing these days. So I'm guessing this is not your cup of tea..... 
I find neither artists interesting. Their early work was good though. Not much of a fan of their collaboration or anything else they are doing these days. So I'm guessing this is not your cup of tea..... |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by highflyer on Aug 5, 2017 23:20:30 GMT 1, You and every other forum member holding worthless paper. I've sold all of mine to buy signed. No one listens though and it's not like I can actually have a conversation here about the value of a signature given the vested interest in unsigned reproductions. PhD stands for "2 years ago, the experts told me unsigned Banksy prints are garbage" Damn it.
Fair enough other than the worthless paper bit. I guess it's the COA which is valuable. But I do get your point.
You and every other forum member holding worthless paper. I've sold all of mine to buy signed. No one listens though and it's not like I can actually have a conversation here about the value of a signature given the vested interest in unsigned reproductions. PhD stands for "2 years ago, the experts told me unsigned Banksy prints are garbage" Damn it. Fair enough other than the worthless paper bit. I guess it's the COA which is valuable. But I do get your point. |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by mfb on Aug 5, 2017 23:48:10 GMT 1, You and every other forum member holding worthless paper. I've sold all of mine to buy signed. No one listens though and it's not like I can actually have a conversation here about the value of a signature given the vested interest in unsigned reproductions. PhD stands for "2 years ago, the experts told me unsigned Banksy prints are garbage" Damn it.
Give a man a half lot and he'll want fish and chips....
Give a man chips and he'd want a half lot....
A hungry man will eat scraps....
Pretty much sums up this forum to be honest!!!
You and every other forum member holding worthless paper. I've sold all of mine to buy signed. No one listens though and it's not like I can actually have a conversation here about the value of a signature given the vested interest in unsigned reproductions. PhD stands for "2 years ago, the experts told me unsigned Banksy prints are garbage" Damn it. Give a man a half lot and he'll want fish and chips.... Give a man chips and he'd want a half lot.... A hungry man will eat scraps.... Pretty much sums up this forum to be honest!!! |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by mrizzle on Aug 6, 2017 0:30:31 GMT 1, You and every other forum member holding worthless paper. I've sold all of mine to buy signed. No one listens though and it's not like I can actually have a conversation here about the value of a signature given the vested interest in unsigned reproductions. Give a man a half lot and he'll want fish and chips.... Give a man chips and he'd want a half lot.... A hungry man will eat scraps.... Pretty much sums up this forum to be honest!!!
I prefer steak...preferably from a unicorn.
You and every other forum member holding worthless paper. I've sold all of mine to buy signed. No one listens though and it's not like I can actually have a conversation here about the value of a signature given the vested interest in unsigned reproductions. Give a man a half lot and he'll want fish and chips.... Give a man chips and he'd want a half lot.... A hungry man will eat scraps.... Pretty much sums up this forum to be honest!!! I prefer steak...preferably from a unicorn. |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by loveart10000 on Aug 6, 2017 7:37:36 GMT 1, I think street art scene is luckily to be associated with Sandra. Her work is the most original thing to hit it since 2013.
I think street art scene is luckily to be associated with Sandra. Her work is the most original thing to hit it since 2013.
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Viking Surfer on Aug 6, 2017 9:44:24 GMT 1, I find neither artists interesting.
I have to agree, I think they are both pants.
Although I have seen the odd Whatson OG that has been nice.
I find neither artists interesting. I have to agree, I think they are both pants. Although I have seen the odd Whatson OG that has been nice. |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Reader on Aug 6, 2017 11:34:43 GMT 1, I guarantee both will have a looong and successful career, they've broken away from the maximum 3k budgets where most of us operate and are into a world of interiors and art, not critically acclaimed by self appointed "experts" perhaps. But beautiful and colourful things will always win out. The idea that you need, or artists want, more than one solid idea they can develop over many years is a myth. Painting isn't a "trick", they've both become a lot more technically accomplished over the years and I've never met two artists more dedicated to their "careers", you can bet they'll be around and devloping a loooong time after most others have moved on. Have a long look at their careers, early work compared to later work, who represents and buys them...they're pretty much established now, and barring any disasterous decisions, their fan base will grow and grow. As will their prices. In my opinion. How long will Chevrier continue to grow when there's coffee mug editions etc, and an abundance of prints. At at certain point it's going to have a negative effect, the question is if it'll have a negative effect on her as an artist or if it'll increase the value on the older stuff
I guarantee both will have a looong and successful career, they've broken away from the maximum 3k budgets where most of us operate and are into a world of interiors and art, not critically acclaimed by self appointed "experts" perhaps. But beautiful and colourful things will always win out. The idea that you need, or artists want, more than one solid idea they can develop over many years is a myth. Painting isn't a "trick", they've both become a lot more technically accomplished over the years and I've never met two artists more dedicated to their "careers", you can bet they'll be around and devloping a loooong time after most others have moved on. Have a long look at their careers, early work compared to later work, who represents and buys them...they're pretty much established now, and barring any disasterous decisions, their fan base will grow and grow. As will their prices. In my opinion. How long will Chevrier continue to grow when there's coffee mug editions etc, and an abundance of prints. At at certain point it's going to have a negative effect, the question is if it'll have a negative effect on her as an artist or if it'll increase the value on the older stuff That's like saying a band releasing a T-Shirt will affect the next album. I'm not aware of limited edition Coffee Mugs, post cards, fridge magnets or having available print editions having a negative impact on an artists career. I imagine the evidence points in the other direction. |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by thisismyusername on Aug 6, 2017 11:53:27 GMT 1, How long will Chevrier continue to grow when there's coffee mug editions etc, and an abundance of prints. At at certain point it's going to have a negative effect, the question is if it'll have a negative effect on her as an artist or if it'll increase the value on the older stuff That's like saying a band releasing a T-Shirt will affect the next album. I'm not aware of limited edition Coffee Mugs, post cards, fridge magnets or having available print editions having a negative impact on an artists career. I imagine the evidence points in the other direction.
If Banksy ended up in a Ikea campaign with posters, do you think it would have a positive or negative effect on the market value for his prints ?
How long will Chevrier continue to grow when there's coffee mug editions etc, and an abundance of prints. At at certain point it's going to have a negative effect, the question is if it'll have a negative effect on her as an artist or if it'll increase the value on the older stuff That's like saying a band releasing a T-Shirt will affect the next album. I'm not aware of limited edition Coffee Mugs, post cards, fridge magnets or having available print editions having a negative impact on an artists career. I imagine the evidence points in the other direction. But it's not really the same as saying a band releasing a t-shirt....It's a far fetched comparison. There's timed releases, coffee mugs, when will we see an H&M co-op with Chevrier t-shirts ? If Banksy ended up in a Ikea campaign with posters, do you think it would have a positive or negative effect on the market value for his prints ? |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Daniel Silk on Aug 6, 2017 12:28:49 GMT 1, That's like saying a band releasing a T-Shirt will affect the next album. I'm not aware of limited edition Coffee Mugs, post cards, fridge magnets or having available print editions having a negative impact on an artists career. I imagine the evidence points in the other direction. But it's not really the same as saying a band releasing a t-shirt....It's a far fetched comparison. There's timed releases, coffee mugs, when will we see an H&M co-op with Chevrier t-shirts ? If Banksy ended up in a Ikea campaign with posters, do you think it would have a positive or negative effect on the market value for his prints ?
That's like saying a band releasing a T-Shirt will affect the next album. I'm not aware of limited edition Coffee Mugs, post cards, fridge magnets or having available print editions having a negative impact on an artists career. I imagine the evidence points in the other direction. But it's not really the same as saying a band releasing a t-shirt....It's a far fetched comparison. There's timed releases, coffee mugs, when will we see an H&M co-op with Chevrier t-shirts ? If Banksy ended up in a Ikea campaign with posters, do you think it would have a positive or negative effect on the market value for his prints ? Depends if the market value of Banksy's prints is important or the way to judge his popularity. |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by thomasmer on Aug 6, 2017 12:30:40 GMT 1, If Banksy ended up in a Ikea campaign with posters, do you think it would have a positive or negative effect on the market value for his prints ?
If Banksy ended up in a Ikea campaign with posters, do you think it would have a positive or negative effect on the market value for his prints ? I think a positive effect and he will make millions. |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Daniel Silk on Aug 6, 2017 12:35:30 GMT 1, If Banksy ended up in a Ikea campaign with posters, do you think it would have a positive or negative effect on the market value for his prints ? I think a positive effect and he will make millions.
If Banksy ended up in a Ikea campaign with posters, do you think it would have a positive or negative effect on the market value for his prints ? I think a positive effect and he will make millions. I agree, I move like that for Banksy would help concrete his popularity with the general public outside the art scene and get his work up on the walls in millions of homes. |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by BKBOI on Aug 6, 2017 12:41:11 GMT 1, I think a positive effect and he will make millions. I agree, I move like that for Banksy would help concrete his popularity with the general public outside the art scene and get his work up on the walls in millions of homes.
But he would never do that. If you think Stik is good in controlling inventory, then Banksy is the king of inventory control.
I think a positive effect and he will make millions. I agree, I move like that for Banksy would help concrete his popularity with the general public outside the art scene and get his work up on the walls in millions of homes. But he would never do that. If you think Stik is good in controlling inventory, then Banksy is the king of inventory control. |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Happy Go Lucky Chap on Aug 6, 2017 12:44:28 GMT 1, I think this would have been better without the Chevrier collab, graffed up proper Whatson style
In my mind, Chevrier is completely flogging a dead horse, has been milking it for years.
That said, I still do like the occasional Chevrier piece, just not this one
I think this would have been better without the Chevrier collab, graffed up proper Whatson style
In my mind, Chevrier is completely flogging a dead horse, has been milking it for years.
That said, I still do like the occasional Chevrier piece, just not this one
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Daniel Silk on Aug 6, 2017 12:45:21 GMT 1, I agree, I move like that for Banksy would help concrete his popularity with the general public outside the art scene and get his work up on the walls in millions of homes. But he would never do that. If you think Stik is good in controlling inventory, then Banksy is the king of inventory control.
I agree, I move like that for Banksy would help concrete his popularity with the general public outside the art scene and get his work up on the walls in millions of homes. But he would never do that. If you think Stik is good in controlling inventory, then Banksy is the king of inventory control. Yeah, most artists these days seem to put increasing the values and controls of limited editions above anything else. |
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by thisismyusername on Aug 6, 2017 13:00:27 GMT 1, But it's not really the same as saying a band releasing a t-shirt....It's a far fetched comparison. There's timed releases, coffee mugs, when will we see an H&M co-op with Chevrier t-shirts ? If Banksy ended up in a Ikea campaign with posters, do you think it would have a positive or negative effect on the market value for his prints ? Depends if the market value of Banksy's prints is important or the way to judge his popularity.
Banksys popularity is easy to measure, when even foreign papers are running it as front page news on their websites that his identity might possibly be revealed, it's because they know their average reader will press the link..My take on it is that he'd make easy money from my far fetched example, but it would ruin the market value on the prints, not to mention that many would be less than interested in collecting something that's become mainstream.
Nothing like having a ยฃ20k print on your wall and people asking if you got it off the local Ikea, yeah, that'll do wonders.
But it's not really the same as saying a band releasing a t-shirt....It's a far fetched comparison. There's timed releases, coffee mugs, when will we see an H&M co-op with Chevrier t-shirts ? If Banksy ended up in a Ikea campaign with posters, do you think it would have a positive or negative effect on the market value for his prints ? Depends if the market value of Banksy's prints is important or the way to judge his popularity. Market value, that was also my point in regards to Chevrier and the timed releases, the coffee mugs etc. Banksys popularity is easy to measure, when even foreign papers are running it as front page news on their websites that his identity might possibly be revealed, it's because they know their average reader will press the link..My take on it is that he'd make easy money from my far fetched example, but it would ruin the market value on the prints, not to mention that many would be less than interested in collecting something that's become mainstream. Nothing like having a ยฃ20k print on your wall and people asking if you got it off the local Ikea, yeah, that'll do wonders. |
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