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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by thisismyusername on Aug 6, 2017 13:03:02 GMT 1, But he would never do that. If you think Stik is good in controlling inventory, then Banksy is the king of inventory control. Yeah, most artists these days seem to put increasing the values and controls of limited editions above anything else. Price is also a measure of popularity, isn't it ?
But he would never do that. If you think Stik is good in controlling inventory, then Banksy is the king of inventory control. Yeah, most artists these days seem to put increasing the values and controls of limited editions above anything else. Price is also a measure of popularity, isn't it ?
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by bennybankrupt on Aug 6, 2017 13:08:08 GMT 1, Dont like them. I'm not a fan of Sandra's work, but the added bits by Martin Whatson do improve things slightly, but not enough that I would ever buy any of them. I wonder if the artists feel they are gaining from the partnership? Is one more popular than the other? Has one or both run out of ideas on their own? They both gain from eachothers fans ofcourse, but in this case my educated guess would be: Because their puppetmaster Martyn Reed told them/asked them to do it.
Dont like them. I'm not a fan of Sandra's work, but the added bits by Martin Whatson do improve things slightly, but not enough that I would ever buy any of them. I wonder if the artists feel they are gaining from the partnership? Is one more popular than the other? Has one or both run out of ideas on their own? They both gain from eachothers fans ofcourse, but in this case my educated guess would be: Because their puppetmaster Martyn Reed told them/asked them to do it.
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 6, 2017 15:13:39 GMT 1, I don't think either are particularly good at what they do, so when you stick them both in a blender, what comes out ain't pretty. Whatson is mediocre with his stencil work and has no roots in tagging, so his faux tagging shtick is a joke. Beyond his lack of technical skills, I find the work devoid of any real meaning or message. The creative process seems to be "what can I ejaculate these faux tags on next?" Chevrier paints at a community college level, at best. Thankfully, the portraits are covered in comic books, which I will admit, in the early days she excelled at tearing and pasting. The one redeeming quality in her work is that there is an actual meaning that she strives for. Regardless of my opinions, both have found a fan base that appreciates their work and good on them for making it in a tough business. It's hard to fault them for doing what pays the bills.
This is pretty spot on to me. There are multiple artists/memeber a in this forum with better stenciling skills then whatson. And to me that's all whatsons art is. Some mediocre stencils of images.
I don't think either are particularly good at what they do, so when you stick them both in a blender, what comes out ain't pretty. Whatson is mediocre with his stencil work and has no roots in tagging, so his faux tagging shtick is a joke. Beyond his lack of technical skills, I find the work devoid of any real meaning or message. The creative process seems to be "what can I ejaculate these faux tags on next?" Chevrier paints at a community college level, at best. Thankfully, the portraits are covered in comic books, which I will admit, in the early days she excelled at tearing and pasting. The one redeeming quality in her work is that there is an actual meaning that she strives for. Regardless of my opinions, both have found a fan base that appreciates their work and good on them for making it in a tough business. It's hard to fault them for doing what pays the bills. This is pretty spot on to me. There are multiple artists/memeber a in this forum with better stenciling skills then whatson. And to me that's all whatsons art is. Some mediocre stencils of images.
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Hairbland on Aug 7, 2017 0:44:30 GMT 1, How long will Chevrier continue to grow when there's coffee mug editions etc, and an abundance of prints. At at certain point it's going to have a negative effect, the question is if it'll have a negative effect on her as an artist or if it'll increase the value on the older stuff Abundance of prints sure has hurt that Fairey guy. He sure disappeared and has become irrelevant.
You are confusing game-changers with hangers-on. Some open doors that didn't exist, some are johnny one notes trying to cash in.
How long will Chevrier continue to grow when there's coffee mug editions etc, and an abundance of prints. At at certain point it's going to have a negative effect, the question is if it'll have a negative effect on her as an artist or if it'll increase the value on the older stuff Abundance of prints sure has hurt that Fairey guy. He sure disappeared and has become irrelevant. You are confusing game-changers with hangers-on. Some open doors that didn't exist, some are johnny one notes trying to cash in.
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Charlie Bronson on Aug 7, 2017 1:02:12 GMT 1, Chevrier, Whatson, Banksy, Os Gemeos, Retna, Dface, Invader....they're all going to be worthless. That's why i'm dumping all of my pieces from said artists and funding original Pricasso paintings.
"There are millions of artists in the world, but only one who paints with his p***s"-Pricasso pricasso.com
Chevrier, Whatson, Banksy, Os Gemeos, Retna, Dface, Invader....they're all going to be worthless. That's why i'm dumping all of my pieces from said artists and funding original Pricasso paintings. "There are millions of artists in the world, but only one who paints with his p***s"-Pricasso pricasso.com
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by cmodart on Aug 7, 2017 2:02:35 GMT 1, Waiting on Sandra to release a special lenticular edition, with a swatch of supermans cape at the bottom, and a hologram for authenticity. That will out my kids through college one day.
Waiting on Sandra to release a special lenticular edition, with a swatch of supermans cape at the bottom, and a hologram for authenticity. That will out my kids through college one day.
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by thomasmer on Aug 7, 2017 3:00:23 GMT 1, I agree, I move like that for Banksy would help concrete his popularity with the general public outside the art scene and get his work up on the walls in millions of homes. But he would never do that. If you think Stik is good in controlling inventory, then Banksy is the king of inventory control. Never ?
I agree, I move like that for Banksy would help concrete his popularity with the general public outside the art scene and get his work up on the walls in millions of homes. But he would never do that. If you think Stik is good in controlling inventory, then Banksy is the king of inventory control. Never ?
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Hairbland on Aug 7, 2017 4:48:48 GMT 1, I think street art scene is luckily to be associated with Sandra. Her work is the most original thing to hit it since 2013. I would be embarrassed to post this.
I think street art scene is luckily to be associated with Sandra. Her work is the most original thing to hit it since 2013. I would be embarrassed to post this.
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by andyroo0312 on Aug 7, 2017 7:01:13 GMT 1, Abundance of prints sure has hurt that Fairey guy. He sure disappeared and has become irrelevant. You are confusing game-changers with hangers-on. Some open doors that didn't exist, some are johnny one notes trying to cash in. Don't forget majority of Faireys prints are $40-$50 from source which is a lot different to hundreds for something that only belongs in the garage next to the dart ๐ฏ.
Abundance of prints sure has hurt that Fairey guy. He sure disappeared and has become irrelevant. You are confusing game-changers with hangers-on. Some open doors that didn't exist, some are johnny one notes trying to cash in. Don't forget majority of Faireys prints are $40-$50 from source which is a lot different to hundreds for something that only belongs in the garage next to the dart ๐ฏ.
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by loveart10000 on Aug 7, 2017 8:03:23 GMT 1, I think street art scene is luckily to be associated with Sandra. Her work is the most original thing to hit it since 2013. I would be embarrassed to post this.
Please don't quote my posts. Thanks.
I think street art scene is luckily to be associated with Sandra. Her work is the most original thing to hit it since 2013. I would be embarrassed to post this. Please don't quote my posts. Thanks.
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by pr.yu on Aug 7, 2017 11:18:43 GMT 1, I think street art scene is luckily to be associated with Sandra. Her work is the most original thing to hit it since 2013. I would be embarrassed to post this.
Gotcha. One more guy (or gal, perhaps) who's better than all of us and "knows" what's earth-shattering, mind-blowing and game-changing. Must be from New York and love Kaws. Is he game-changing, too?
You don't have to like it or pay for it. But this whole idea that you get to decide who's game-changing and who's a hanger-on is just ridiculous. Get over yourself. People really like Whatson. And people really like Chevrier. Someone just paid $100M for a Basquiat that many others could have done themselves. You don't think people snickered at Basquiat and Warhol and Lichtenstein and Miro and thought they were ridiculous and belonged on dart boards?
If it's not your cup of tea, then say that. But to expect anyone on here to be able to predict who's gonna make it and who's not is just a little silly, really.
I'm not suggesting I like all of their work, and I didn't love the the prints released. But, in general, I like Whatson because it's whimsical and it makes me happy to look at his work. I like Chevrier because it speaks to female empowerment (in my mind) and it gives me a nostalgic feeling because of the comic books. My life has enough serious moments that I enjoy the break these give me when I see them. They make me feel happy. I suspect you feel the same when you see those Kaws dolls. And isn't that what art is all about? To make you feel something?
I think street art scene is luckily to be associated with Sandra. Her work is the most original thing to hit it since 2013. I would be embarrassed to post this. Gotcha. One more guy (or gal, perhaps) who's better than all of us and "knows" what's earth-shattering, mind-blowing and game-changing. Must be from New York and love Kaws. Is he game-changing, too? You don't have to like it or pay for it. But this whole idea that you get to decide who's game-changing and who's a hanger-on is just ridiculous. Get over yourself. People really like Whatson. And people really like Chevrier. Someone just paid $100M for a Basquiat that many others could have done themselves. You don't think people snickered at Basquiat and Warhol and Lichtenstein and Miro and thought they were ridiculous and belonged on dart boards? If it's not your cup of tea, then say that. But to expect anyone on here to be able to predict who's gonna make it and who's not is just a little silly, really. I'm not suggesting I like all of their work, and I didn't love the the prints released. But, in general, I like Whatson because it's whimsical and it makes me happy to look at his work. I like Chevrier because it speaks to female empowerment (in my mind) and it gives me a nostalgic feeling because of the comic books. My life has enough serious moments that I enjoy the break these give me when I see them. They make me feel happy. I suspect you feel the same when you see those Kaws dolls. And isn't that what art is all about? To make you feel something?
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Hairbland on Aug 7, 2017 12:31:36 GMT 1, I would be embarrassed to post this. Please don't quote my posts. Thanks. Earth to loveart10000 - this is a forum. If you post an opinion as a definitive statement there will be responses. Have a nice day!
I would be embarrassed to post this. Please don't quote my posts. Thanks. Earth to loveart10000 - this is a forum. If you post an opinion as a definitive statement there will be responses. Have a nice day!
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Hairbland on Aug 7, 2017 12:39:37 GMT 1, I would be embarrassed to post this. Gotcha. One more guy (or gal, perhaps) who's better than all of us and "knows" what's earth-shattering, mind-blowing and game-changing. Must be from New York and love Kaws. Is he game-changing, too? You don't have to like it or pay for it. But this whole idea that you get to decide who's game-changing and who's a hanger-on is just ridiculous. Get over yourself. People really like Whatson. And people really like Chevrier. Someone just paid $100M for a Basquiat that many others could have done themselves. You don't think people snickered at Basquiat and Warhol and Lichtenstein and Miro and thought they were ridiculous and belonged on dart boards? If it's not your cup of tea, then say that. But to expect anyone on here to be able to predict who's gonna make it and who's not is just a little silly, really. I'm not suggesting I like all of their work, and I didn't love the the prints released. But, in general, I like Whatson because it's whimsical and it makes me happy to look at his work. I like Chevrier because it speaks to female empowerment (in my mind) and it gives me a nostalgic feeling because of the comic books. My life has enough serious moments that I enjoy the break these give me when I see them. They make me feel happy. I suspect you feel the same when you see those Kaws dolls. And isn't that what art is all about? To make you feel something? A long and all over the map response. It's cool if you dig either of these artists, but maybe you should look into some history on this place as you've just joined to see how polarizing these "artists" are. To bring the other artists you mention into this argument is laughable. To think I might own KAWS dolls shows a lack of proper defense of your argument and ends up as nothing more than petulance.
I would be embarrassed to post this. Gotcha. One more guy (or gal, perhaps) who's better than all of us and "knows" what's earth-shattering, mind-blowing and game-changing. Must be from New York and love Kaws. Is he game-changing, too? You don't have to like it or pay for it. But this whole idea that you get to decide who's game-changing and who's a hanger-on is just ridiculous. Get over yourself. People really like Whatson. And people really like Chevrier. Someone just paid $100M for a Basquiat that many others could have done themselves. You don't think people snickered at Basquiat and Warhol and Lichtenstein and Miro and thought they were ridiculous and belonged on dart boards? If it's not your cup of tea, then say that. But to expect anyone on here to be able to predict who's gonna make it and who's not is just a little silly, really. I'm not suggesting I like all of their work, and I didn't love the the prints released. But, in general, I like Whatson because it's whimsical and it makes me happy to look at his work. I like Chevrier because it speaks to female empowerment (in my mind) and it gives me a nostalgic feeling because of the comic books. My life has enough serious moments that I enjoy the break these give me when I see them. They make me feel happy. I suspect you feel the same when you see those Kaws dolls. And isn't that what art is all about? To make you feel something? A long and all over the map response. It's cool if you dig either of these artists, but maybe you should look into some history on this place as you've just joined to see how polarizing these "artists" are. To bring the other artists you mention into this argument is laughable. To think I might own KAWS dolls shows a lack of proper defense of your argument and ends up as nothing more than petulance.
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by nobokov on Aug 7, 2017 12:56:28 GMT 1, This forum seems to rehash the same subjects every few months doesn't it?, same subjects, same arguments, same bashes, same retorts.
This must be the third or fourth cycle of this subject matter in the past 12 months. In another 3 months, people will argue yet again about whether 3d is Banksy. Four more, then we'll wax poetic about WCP. Then close the year off with a Visiting Japan, What art-relates places should I check out, thread?
This forum seems to rehash the same subjects every few months doesn't it?, same subjects, same arguments, same bashes, same retorts.
This must be the third or fourth cycle of this subject matter in the past 12 months. In another 3 months, people will argue yet again about whether 3d is Banksy. Four more, then we'll wax poetic about WCP. Then close the year off with a Visiting Japan, What art-relates places should I check out, thread?
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by loveart10000 on Aug 7, 2017 12:59:17 GMT 1, Please don't quote my posts. Thanks. Earth to loveart10000 - this is a forum. If you post an opinion as a definitive statement there will be responses. Have a nice day!
Ok. I'll put it this way. Stop trolling my posts.
Thanks.
Please don't quote my posts. Thanks. Earth to loveart10000 - this is a forum. If you post an opinion as a definitive statement there will be responses. Have a nice day! Ok. I'll put it this way. Stop trolling my posts. Thanks.
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by pr.yu on Aug 7, 2017 13:00:06 GMT 1, A long and all over the map response. It's cool if you dig either of these artists, but maybe you should look into some history on this place as you've just joined to see how polarizing these "artists" are. To bring the other artists you mention into this argument is laughable. To think I might own KAWS dolls shows a lack of proper defense of your argument and ends up as nothing more than petulance.
You're better than me, I get it. But petulant is telling someone they should be embarrassed about their opinion of an artist. It's not a counter-argument to that opinion.
A long and all over the map response. It's cool if you dig either of these artists, but maybe you should look into some history on this place as you've just joined to see how polarizing these "artists" are. To bring the other artists you mention into this argument is laughable. To think I might own KAWS dolls shows a lack of proper defense of your argument and ends up as nothing more than petulance. You're better than me, I get it. But petulant is telling someone they should be embarrassed about their opinion of an artist. It's not a counter-argument to that opinion.
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by pr.yu on Aug 7, 2017 13:02:34 GMT 1, This forum seems to rehash the same subjects every few months doesn't it?, same subjects, same arguments, same bashes, same retorts. This must be the third or fourth cycle of this subject matter in the past 12 months. In another 3 months, people will argue yet again about whether 3d is Banksy. Four more, then we'll wax poetic about WCP. Then close the year off with a Visiting Japan, What art-relates places should I check out, thread?
Let's get another LIITA sales thread up to break the monotony.
This forum seems to rehash the same subjects every few months doesn't it?, same subjects, same arguments, same bashes, same retorts. This must be the third or fourth cycle of this subject matter in the past 12 months. In another 3 months, people will argue yet again about whether 3d is Banksy. Four more, then we'll wax poetic about WCP. Then close the year off with a Visiting Japan, What art-relates places should I check out, thread? Let's get another LIITA sales thread up to break the monotony.
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Hairbland on Aug 7, 2017 13:33:49 GMT 1, Earth to loveart10000 - this is a forum. If you post an opinion as a definitive statement there will be responses. Have a nice day! Ok. I'll put it this way. Stop trolling my posts. Thanks.
Rather foolish for a noob to call an established member a troll, don't you think? Maybe you should re-register under a new name and start over. Do your homework. Maybe a bit less of what Steve Bannon was recently accused of?
Earth to loveart10000 - this is a forum. If you post an opinion as a definitive statement there will be responses. Have a nice day! Ok. I'll put it this way. Stop trolling my posts. Thanks. Rather foolish for a noob to call an established member a troll, don't you think? Maybe you should re-register under a new name and start over. Do your homework. Maybe a bit less of what Steve Bannon was recently accused of?
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by pr.yu on Aug 7, 2017 13:49:04 GMT 1, Ok. I'll put it this way. Stop trolling my posts. Thanks. Rather foolish for a noob to call an established member a troll, don't you think? Maybe you should re-register under a new name and start over. Do your homework. Maybe a bit less of what Steve Bannon was recently accused of?
Earth to hairbland: you saw what happened to the establishment, right?
Trolling: making a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.
I'd say the noob was spot on.
(I in no way condone, defend or support the current administration (only 3 1/2 years to go!). Just merely pointing out that being part of the establishment doesn't always make you right.)
Ok. I'll put it this way. Stop trolling my posts. Thanks. Rather foolish for a noob to call an established member a troll, don't you think? Maybe you should re-register under a new name and start over. Do your homework. Maybe a bit less of what Steve Bannon was recently accused of? Earth to hairbland: you saw what happened to the establishment, right? Trolling: making a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them. I'd say the noob was spot on. (I in no way condone, defend or support the current administration (only 3 1/2 years to go!). Just merely pointing out that being part of the establishment doesn't always make you right.)
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Hairbland on Aug 7, 2017 14:03:38 GMT 1, Rather foolish for a noob to call an established member a troll, don't you think? Maybe you should re-register under a new name and start over. Do your homework. Maybe a bit less of what Steve Bannon was recently accused of? Earth to hairbland: you saw what happened to the establishment, right? Trolling: making a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them. I'd say the noob was spot on. (I in no way condone, defend or support the current administration (only 3 1/2 years to go!). Just merely pointing out that being part of the establishment doesn't always make you right.) so you are using that education you pointed out earlier to post online dictionary definitions? I used to start my middle school papers that way. My posts to the noob were tame and the noob doesn't have the cojones to back up their statements, resorting to trite name calling. I believe you were admonished regarding this earlier in this thread. Who joins a forum to start arguments? Trolls? Or have you guys been enlisted to join this forum to protect the brand?
Rather foolish for a noob to call an established member a troll, don't you think? Maybe you should re-register under a new name and start over. Do your homework. Maybe a bit less of what Steve Bannon was recently accused of? Earth to hairbland: you saw what happened to the establishment, right? Trolling: making a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them. I'd say the noob was spot on. (I in no way condone, defend or support the current administration (only 3 1/2 years to go!). Just merely pointing out that being part of the establishment doesn't always make you right.) so you are using that education you pointed out earlier to post online dictionary definitions? I used to start my middle school papers that way. My posts to the noob were tame and the noob doesn't have the cojones to back up their statements, resorting to trite name calling. I believe you were admonished regarding this earlier in this thread. Who joins a forum to start arguments? Trolls? Or have you guys been enlisted to join this forum to protect the brand?
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by loveart10000 on Aug 7, 2017 14:57:09 GMT 1, Ok. I'll put it this way. Stop trolling my posts. Thanks. Rather foolish for a noob to call an established member a troll, don't you think? Maybe you should re-register under a new name and start over. Do your homework. Maybe a bit less of what Steve Bannon was recently accused of?
Oh please FFS. Look no more attention from me. Flag and troll my posts all you like.
Ok. I'll put it this way. Stop trolling my posts. Thanks. Rather foolish for a noob to call an established member a troll, don't you think? Maybe you should re-register under a new name and start over. Do your homework. Maybe a bit less of what Steve Bannon was recently accused of? Oh please FFS. Look no more attention from me. Flag and troll my posts all you like.
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by pr.yu on Aug 7, 2017 15:17:37 GMT 1, so you are using that education you pointed out earlier to post online dictionary definitions? I used to start my middle school papers that way. My posts to the noob were tame and the noob doesn't have the cojones to back up their statements, resorting to trite name calling. I believe you were admonished regarding this earlier in this thread. Who joins a forum to start arguments? Trolls? Or have you guys been enlisted to join this forum to protect the brand?[/quote]
Look, all I'm saying is that that IS the definition of trolling. I'm not arguing. I just don't like bullying, especially online in an anonymous format. It's lame. I made my points about why I like some of their work. All I see you doing is calling others out for having their opinion without actually stating why you don't like the work. The thread is here to discuss the positives and negatives of the work not just disparage what others think. And I never liked the idea of not questioning the "establishment" because of their status. Isn't that what most urban art is about? You caught me. I actually am Chevrier. And Whatson.
so you are using that education you pointed out earlier to post online dictionary definitions? I used to start my middle school papers that way. My posts to the noob were tame and the noob doesn't have the cojones to back up their statements, resorting to trite name calling. I believe you were admonished regarding this earlier in this thread. Who joins a forum to start arguments? Trolls? Or have you guys been enlisted to join this forum to protect the brand?[/quote] Look, all I'm saying is that that IS the definition of trolling. I'm not arguing. I just don't like bullying, especially online in an anonymous format. It's lame. I made my points about why I like some of their work. All I see you doing is calling others out for having their opinion without actually stating why you don't like the work. The thread is here to discuss the positives and negatives of the work not just disparage what others think. And I never liked the idea of not questioning the "establishment" because of their status. Isn't that what most urban art is about? You caught me. I actually am Chevrier. And Whatson.
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by thomasmer on Aug 7, 2017 17:01:25 GMT 1, I would be embarrassed to post this. Please don't quote my posts. Thanks. Please don't say silly things then.
Or at least wait till she's tirelessly painting stunning street pieces week in and week out, not the odd one on the side of the gallery a week before the show.
I would be embarrassed to post this. Please don't quote my posts. Thanks. Please don't say silly things then. Or at least wait till she's tirelessly painting stunning street pieces week in and week out, not the odd one on the side of the gallery a week before the show.
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by thomasmer on Aug 7, 2017 17:08:44 GMT 1, I like Chevrier because it speaks to female empowerment I'm so over this Chevrier female empowerment guff as well, if that gets you going maybe take a look at Swoon, theres some real empowerment and a real street art soul right there.
I like Chevrier because it speaks to female empowerment I'm so over this Chevrier female empowerment guff as well, if that gets you going maybe take a look at Swoon, theres some real empowerment and a real street art soul right there.
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Hairbland on Aug 7, 2017 22:16:22 GMT 1, I'm so over this Chevrier female empowerment guff as well, if that gets you going maybe take a look at Swoon, theres some real empowerment and a real street art soul right there.
Yup. Some are real, followed by some cashing in by dumbing down. I made my career in the music biz - the trendsetters were always followed by the diluted cr*p.
I'm so over this Chevrier female empowerment guff as well, if that gets you going maybe take a look at Swoon, theres some real empowerment and a real street art soul right there. Yup. Some are real, followed by some cashing in by dumbing down. I made my career in the music biz - the trendsetters were always followed by the diluted cr*p.
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by andyroo0312 on Aug 8, 2017 0:48:16 GMT 1, Rather foolish for a noob to call an established member a troll, don't you think? Maybe you should re-register under a new name and start over. Do your homework. Maybe a bit less of what Steve Bannon was recently accused of? Oh please FFS. Look no more attention from me. Flag and troll my posts all you like. Now thats a better attitude. I write what i think and if people troll, flag, quote or even plagiarise, i think great for them as it is all water off a ducks back in the bigger scheme of things.
Rather foolish for a noob to call an established member a troll, don't you think? Maybe you should re-register under a new name and start over. Do your homework. Maybe a bit less of what Steve Bannon was recently accused of? Oh please FFS. Look no more attention from me. Flag and troll my posts all you like. Now thats a better attitude. I write what i think and if people troll, flag, quote or even plagiarise, i think great for them as it is all water off a ducks back in the bigger scheme of things.
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Hairbland on Aug 8, 2017 4:29:31 GMT 1, Oh please FFS. Look no more attention from me. Flag and troll my posts all you like. Now thats a better attitude. I write what i think and if people troll, flag, quote or even plagiarise, i think great for them as it is all water off a ducks back in the bigger scheme of things. . And a bit more fun, this is a street art forum, not a quilting forum. It's not like anyone is acting like that Chicago flipper guy of a year ago!
Oh please FFS. Look no more attention from me. Flag and troll my posts all you like. Now thats a better attitude. I write what i think and if people troll, flag, quote or even plagiarise, i think great for them as it is all water off a ducks back in the bigger scheme of things. . And a bit more fun, this is a street art forum, not a quilting forum. It's not like anyone is acting like that Chicago flipper guy of a year ago!
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by Poesia on Aug 8, 2017 22:22:00 GMT 1, I think we have to learn to start to using terminology correct and not call emerging artists street artists, there is a difference. Raphael wrote a nice article on the subject worth a read for anyone not familiar with the argument and the ongoing terminology debate.
"Perhaps it is best to work backward in order to move forward. As a defined artistic milieu, I would argue that Street Art was operative and, crucially, innovative, between approximately the years of 1998 and 2008 (the time period of our period). Although Street Art practices as such were seen prior to 1998 (anticipatory, proto-Street Art works being quite visible in the poetic messages of John Fekner and the graffiti abstractions of Futura2000 in the 1970s, in the eponymous stencils of Blek le Rat in the 1980s, and in the stickers, posters and roll-ups of REVS & COST in the 1990s for example), the critical mass of practices began occurring at this date."
hyperallergic.com/310616/street-art-is-a-period-period-or-the-emergence-of-intermural-art/
I think we have to learn to start to using terminology correct and not call emerging artists street artists, there is a difference. Raphael wrote a nice article on the subject worth a read for anyone not familiar with the argument and the ongoing terminology debate. "Perhaps it is best to work backward in order to move forward. As a defined artistic milieu, I would argue that Street Art was operative and, crucially, innovative, between approximately the years of 1998 and 2008 (the time period of our period). Although Street Art practices as such were seen prior to 1998 (anticipatory, proto-Street Art works being quite visible in the poetic messages of John Fekner and the graffiti abstractions of Futura2000 in the 1970s, in the eponymous stencils of Blek le Rat in the 1980s, and in the stickers, posters and roll-ups of REVS & COST in the 1990s for example), the critical mass of practices began occurring at this date." hyperallergic.com/310616/street-art-is-a-period-period-or-the-emergence-of-intermural-art/
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by thomasmer on Aug 9, 2017 6:48:18 GMT 1, I think we have to learn to start to using terminology correct and not call emerging artists street artists, there is a difference. Raphael wrote a nice article on the subject worth a read for anyone not familiar with the argument and the ongoing terminology debate. "Perhaps it is best to work backward in order to move forward. As a defined artistic milieu, I would argue that Street Art was operative and, crucially, innovative, between approximately the years of 1998 and 2008 (the time period of our period). Although Street Art practices as such were seen prior to 1998 (anticipatory, proto-Street Art works being quite visible in the poetic messages of John Fekner and the graffiti abstractions of Futura2000 in the 1970s, in the eponymous stencils of Blek le Rat in the 1980s, and in the stickers, posters and roll-ups of REVS & COST in the 1990s for example), the critical mass of practices began occurring at this date." hyperallergic.com/310616/street-art-is-a-period-period-or-the-emergence-of-intermural-art/ A strong quote/post, and agree with most of it.
I think we have to learn to start to using terminology correct and not call emerging artists street artists, there is a difference. Raphael wrote a nice article on the subject worth a read for anyone not familiar with the argument and the ongoing terminology debate. "Perhaps it is best to work backward in order to move forward. As a defined artistic milieu, I would argue that Street Art was operative and, crucially, innovative, between approximately the years of 1998 and 2008 (the time period of our period). Although Street Art practices as such were seen prior to 1998 (anticipatory, proto-Street Art works being quite visible in the poetic messages of John Fekner and the graffiti abstractions of Futura2000 in the 1970s, in the eponymous stencils of Blek le Rat in the 1980s, and in the stickers, posters and roll-ups of REVS & COST in the 1990s for example), the critical mass of practices began occurring at this date." hyperallergic.com/310616/street-art-is-a-period-period-or-the-emergence-of-intermural-art/A strong quote/post, and agree with most of it.
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