artgrenade
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by artgrenade on Sept 4, 2017 18:47:44 GMT 1, Hello Forum, Hope you can help, I'm looking to start a collection from new Artists and have trawled through posts on here looking for some inspiration but so far, have been underwhelmed by a lot of the art on here. I'm fascinated with what people buy and of course, I realise, all art is subjective, but some Artists on here seem really really awful and I just don't seem to get what the fuss is all about. These include: Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash. However, I do like Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa, Os gemeos.
Suggestions please....
Hello Forum, Hope you can help, I'm looking to start a collection from new Artists and have trawled through posts on here looking for some inspiration but so far, have been underwhelmed by a lot of the art on here. I'm fascinated with what people buy and of course, I realise, all art is subjective, but some Artists on here seem really really awful and I just don't seem to get what the fuss is all about. These include: Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash. However, I do like Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa, Os gemeos. Suggestions please....
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pippyt75
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by pippyt75 on Sept 4, 2017 18:58:26 GMT 1, Go to as many exhibitions as you can. Your opinions will change when you see originals in the flesh. Bear in mind your tastes will change as well!
Go to as many exhibitions as you can. Your opinions will change when you see originals in the flesh. Bear in mind your tastes will change as well!
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Inknart
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by Inknart on Sept 4, 2017 19:00:17 GMT 1, Hello Forum, Hope you can help, I'm looking to start a collection from new Artists and have trawled through posts on here looking for some inspiration but so far, have been underwhelmed by a lot of the art on here. I'm fascinated with what people buy and of course, I realise, all art is subjective, but some Artists on here seem really really awful and I just don't seem to get what the fuss is all about. These include: Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash. However, I do like Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa, Os gemeos. Suggestions please.... Art is very subjective as you've just reiterated in this post. That being said, without artists you've mentioned above this forum would probably not exist as a handful of those I would consider pioneers of the urban art movement.
Hello Forum, Hope you can help, I'm looking to start a collection from new Artists and have trawled through posts on here looking for some inspiration but so far, have been underwhelmed by a lot of the art on here. I'm fascinated with what people buy and of course, I realise, all art is subjective, but some Artists on here seem really really awful and I just don't seem to get what the fuss is all about. These include: Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash. However, I do like Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa, Os gemeos. Suggestions please.... Art is very subjective as you've just reiterated in this post. That being said, without artists you've mentioned above this forum would probably not exist as a handful of those I would consider pioneers of the urban art movement.
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Dive Jedi
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by Dive Jedi on Sept 4, 2017 19:07:53 GMT 1, Hi,
welcome to the forum.
I would suggest to collect Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa and Os Gemeos.
Based upon my thorough professional analysis I advice you not to buy any Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash
Happy collecting! Jedi
Hi,
welcome to the forum.
I would suggest to collect Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa and Os Gemeos.
Based upon my thorough professional analysis I advice you not to buy any Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash
Happy collecting! Jedi
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 19:15:23 GMT 1, Hi, welcome to the forum. I would suggest to collect Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa and Os Gemeos. Based upon my thorough professional analysis I advice you not to buy any Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash Happy collecting! Jedi
Whoa, I have seriously fucked up LOL
Hi, welcome to the forum. I would suggest to collect Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa and Os Gemeos. Based upon my thorough professional analysis I advice you not to buy any Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash Happy collecting! Jedi Whoa, I have seriously fucked up LOL
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gravity1
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by gravity1 on Sept 4, 2017 19:15:34 GMT 1,
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redbirds
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by redbirds on Sept 4, 2017 19:22:59 GMT 1, Hi, welcome to the forum. I would suggest to collect Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa and Os Gemeos. Based upon my thorough professional analysis I advice you not to buy any Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash Happy collecting! Jedi
Jedi just wants all the Sniks to himself ...
Hi, welcome to the forum. I would suggest to collect Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa and Os Gemeos. Based upon my thorough professional analysis I advice you not to buy any Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash Happy collecting! Jedi Jedi just wants all the Sniks to himself ...
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 19:23:44 GMT 1, Thats fantastic
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pippyt75
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by pippyt75 on Sept 4, 2017 19:25:38 GMT 1, Also try and buy the next Invader print. The sooner you learn to cope with disappointment the better.
Also try and buy the next Invader print. The sooner you learn to cope with disappointment the better.
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by The True Cubs Fan on Sept 4, 2017 19:25:57 GMT 1, I know this may sound dumb, but if you're building a personal collection to put on the walls or keep in a portfolio to make you happy, Collect who you like
I would echo pippyt75 and go to as many shows, festivals and exhibitions as you can, because it'll help immerse you in the culture, and will let you see the art without the hype. I have bought a lot of artists who don't sell out prints in a few seconds on graffitiprints, simply because the art made me happy
The forum is really an incredible resource, and it's also good to get out of it and see what you like. Hop on Instagram and search around for art.
The other thing which was really helpful to me when I got started was realizing there will always be more art and to set aside a budget and more or less stick to it. It's an expensive hobby
Bottom line, enjoy it!!
I know this may sound dumb, but if you're building a personal collection to put on the walls or keep in a portfolio to make you happy, Collect who you like I would echo pippyt75 and go to as many shows, festivals and exhibitions as you can, because it'll help immerse you in the culture, and will let you see the art without the hype. I have bought a lot of artists who don't sell out prints in a few seconds on graffitiprints, simply because the art made me happy The forum is really an incredible resource, and it's also good to get out of it and see what you like. Hop on Instagram and search around for art. The other thing which was really helpful to me when I got started was realizing there will always be more art and to set aside a budget and more or less stick to it. It's an expensive hobby Bottom line, enjoy it!!
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everyoneowes
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by everyoneowes on Sept 4, 2017 19:28:02 GMT 1, Hi, welcome to the forum. I would suggest to collect Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa and Os Gemeos. Based upon my thorough professional analysis I advice you not to buy any Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash Happy collecting! Jedi
It's as if Yoda's in the room 😉
Learn to trust your instincts, you must....
Hi, welcome to the forum. I would suggest to collect Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa and Os Gemeos. Based upon my thorough professional analysis I advice you not to buy any Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash Happy collecting! Jedi It's as if Yoda's in the room 😉 Learn to trust your instincts, you must....
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 19:52:54 GMT 1, Hello Forum, Hope you can help, I'm looking to start a collection from new Artists and have trawled through posts on here looking for some inspiration but so far, have been underwhelmed by a lot of the art on here. I'm fascinated with what people buy and of course, I realise, all art is subjective, but some Artists on here seem really really awful and I just don't seem to get what the fuss is all about. These include: Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash. However, I do like Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa, Os gemeos. Suggestions please.... Fantastic painter by the name of Cliff Phillips, between me and you he is lined up to be the next big thing....this was a P.M wasn't it...ooops I hope I haven't let the cat out of the bag to early p.s It's clearly coincidental that my username is Cliff
Hello Forum, Hope you can help, I'm looking to start a collection from new Artists and have trawled through posts on here looking for some inspiration but so far, have been underwhelmed by a lot of the art on here. I'm fascinated with what people buy and of course, I realise, all art is subjective, but some Artists on here seem really really awful and I just don't seem to get what the fuss is all about. These include: Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash. However, I do like Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa, Os gemeos. Suggestions please.... Fantastic painter by the name of Cliff Phillips, between me and you he is lined up to be the next big thing....this was a P.M wasn't it...ooops I hope I haven't let the cat out of the bag to early p.s It's clearly coincidental that my username is Cliff
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by FЯ on Sept 4, 2017 20:02:04 GMT 1, I could say it in a roundabout way, but time is against me today. So i will just say it:
1. The arse will fall out of Harland Miller like some sort of bad food poisoning.
2. When Peter Blake passes away, the market will be saturated with his work so dont buy thinking it will go up.
3. Most artwork sold now is just pretty tags and scribbles. Girls floating, that sort of thing. Look to those artists who have depth in ideas like pejac for example (would have said banksy 10 years ago on the same note). Ideas always last longer than styles.
I could say it in a roundabout way, but time is against me today. So i will just say it:
1. The arse will fall out of Harland Miller like some sort of bad food poisoning.
2. When Peter Blake passes away, the market will be saturated with his work so dont buy thinking it will go up.
3. Most artwork sold now is just pretty tags and scribbles. Girls floating, that sort of thing. Look to those artists who have depth in ideas like pejac for example (would have said banksy 10 years ago on the same note). Ideas always last longer than styles.
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chevyav53
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by chevyav53 on Sept 4, 2017 20:05:18 GMT 1, Hello Forum, Hope you can help, I'm looking to start a collection from new Artists and have trawled through posts on here looking for some inspiration but so far, have been underwhelmed by a lot of the art on here. I'm fascinated with what people buy and of course, I realise, all art is subjective, but some Artists on here seem really really awful and I just don't seem to get what the fuss is all about. These include: Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash. However, I do like Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa, Os gemeos. Suggestions please.... I'm with you on almost all those especially MBW, Pure Evil, Snik. On the Urban side I like Pez (French one) Dulk, Alex Yanes, Paco Pomet to name a few.
Hello Forum, Hope you can help, I'm looking to start a collection from new Artists and have trawled through posts on here looking for some inspiration but so far, have been underwhelmed by a lot of the art on here. I'm fascinated with what people buy and of course, I realise, all art is subjective, but some Artists on here seem really really awful and I just don't seem to get what the fuss is all about. These include: Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash. However, I do like Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa, Os gemeos. Suggestions please.... I'm with you on almost all those especially MBW, Pure Evil, Snik. On the Urban side I like Pez (French one) Dulk, Alex Yanes, Paco Pomet to name a few.
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by Anthony Styles on Sept 4, 2017 20:27:06 GMT 1, Appreciate the comments FR but would you care to share any further insight into your Harland forecast? I ask as from what I see his work is always in high demand and sells rather quickly (with exception of a few not so wall friendly pieces).
I have also observed his work being heavily invested into by large collectors, and art buyers such as the soho house group, Hix restaurants etc which continue to offer exposure to high end clientele worldwide.
For transparency I do own a few pieces in my collection however it is not the main focus of my portfolio. I would genuinely be interested in your thoughts.
With regards to my views on some other artists mentioned, I feel the Pejac message is strong one and is well communicated through his work.
Artgrenade, only buy what you genuinely like. That way the fluctuations in art prices will not matter a damn thing. Some of the art I own has grown in value, other pieces have not however I really love all the works I own and they give me a lot of pleasure to look at on my walls.
Just my 2cents.
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Appreciate the comments FR but would you care to share any further insight into your Harland forecast? I ask as from what I see his work is always in high demand and sells rather quickly (with exception of a few not so wall friendly pieces).
I have also observed his work being heavily invested into by large collectors, and art buyers such as the soho house group, Hix restaurants etc which continue to offer exposure to high end clientele worldwide.
For transparency I do own a few pieces in my collection however it is not the main focus of my portfolio. I would genuinely be interested in your thoughts.
With regards to my views on some other artists mentioned, I feel the Pejac message is strong one and is well communicated through his work.
Artgrenade, only buy what you genuinely like. That way the fluctuations in art prices will not matter a damn thing. Some of the art I own has grown in value, other pieces have not however I really love all the works I own and they give me a lot of pleasure to look at on my walls.
Just my 2cents.
A
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by FЯ on Sept 4, 2017 20:36:01 GMT 1, Appreciate the comments FR but would you care to share any further insight into your Harland forecast? I ask as from what I see his work is always in high demand and sells rather quickly (with exception of a few not so wall friendly pieces). I have also observed his work being heavily invested into by large collectors, and art buyers such as the soho house group, Hix restaurants etc which continue to offer exposure to high end clientele worldwide. For transparency I do own a few pieces in my collection however it is not the main focus of my portfolio. I would genuinely be interested in your thoughts. With regards to my views on some other artists mentioned, I feel the Pejac message is strong one and is well communicated through his work. Artgrenade, only buy what you genuinely like. That way the fluctuations in art prices will not matter a damn thing. Some of the art I own has grown in value, other pieces have not however I really love all the works I own and they give me a lot of pleasure to look at on my walls. Just my 2cents. A See point 3 on my post - popular style right now. Goes well with the furniture. all in my opinion obviously!
Many investors quickly as well tend to pump up prices. alot of hirst works are in big collections but he cannot sell to billionaires right now.
Appreciate the comments FR but would you care to share any further insight into your Harland forecast? I ask as from what I see his work is always in high demand and sells rather quickly (with exception of a few not so wall friendly pieces). I have also observed his work being heavily invested into by large collectors, and art buyers such as the soho house group, Hix restaurants etc which continue to offer exposure to high end clientele worldwide. For transparency I do own a few pieces in my collection however it is not the main focus of my portfolio. I would genuinely be interested in your thoughts. With regards to my views on some other artists mentioned, I feel the Pejac message is strong one and is well communicated through his work. Artgrenade, only buy what you genuinely like. That way the fluctuations in art prices will not matter a damn thing. Some of the art I own has grown in value, other pieces have not however I really love all the works I own and they give me a lot of pleasure to look at on my walls. Just my 2cents. A See point 3 on my post - popular style right now. Goes well with the furniture. all in my opinion obviously! Many investors quickly as well tend to pump up prices. alot of hirst works are in big collections but he cannot sell to billionaires right now.
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caruso
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by caruso on Sept 4, 2017 21:06:10 GMT 1, Hilarious. I've already checked that disappointment box!
Also try and buy the next Invader print. The sooner you learn to cope with disappointment the better.
Hilarious. I've already checked that disappointment box! Also try and buy the next Invader print. The sooner you learn to cope with disappointment the better.
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Winter
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by Winter on Sept 4, 2017 21:06:57 GMT 1, Hi, welcome to the forum. I would suggest to collect Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa and Os Gemeos. Based upon my thorough professional analysis I advice you not to buy any Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash Happy collecting! Jedi
Can you explain what your 'thorough professional analysis' is?
Hi, welcome to the forum. I would suggest to collect Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa and Os Gemeos. Based upon my thorough professional analysis I advice you not to buy any Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash Happy collecting! Jedi Can you explain what your 'thorough professional analysis' is?
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by caruso on Sept 4, 2017 21:07:56 GMT 1, This is for brilliant posts like that I joined this forum.
I could say it in a roundabout way, but time is against me today. So i will just say it: 1. The arse will fall out of Harland Miller like some sort of bad food poisoning. 2. When Peter Blake passes away, the market will be saturated with his work so dont buy thinking it will go up. 3. Most artwork sold now is just pretty tags and scribbles. Girls floating, that sort of thing. Look to those artists who have depth in ideas like pejac for example (would have said banksy 10 years ago on the same note). Ideas always last longer than styles.
This is for brilliant posts like that I joined this forum. I could say it in a roundabout way, but time is against me today. So i will just say it: 1. The arse will fall out of Harland Miller like some sort of bad food poisoning. 2. When Peter Blake passes away, the market will be saturated with his work so dont buy thinking it will go up. 3. Most artwork sold now is just pretty tags and scribbles. Girls floating, that sort of thing. Look to those artists who have depth in ideas like pejac for example (would have said banksy 10 years ago on the same note). Ideas always last longer than styles.
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by Dungle on Sept 4, 2017 21:10:09 GMT 1, Appreciate the comments FR but would you care to share any further insight into your Harland forecast? I ask as from what I see his work is always in high demand and sells rather quickly (with exception of a few not so wall friendly pieces). I have also observed his work being heavily invested into by large collectors, and art buyers such as the soho house group, Hix restaurants etc which continue to offer exposure to high end clientele worldwide. For transparency I do own a few pieces in my collection however it is not the main focus of my portfolio. I would genuinely be interested in your thoughts. With regards to my views on some other artists mentioned, I feel the Pejac message is strong one and is well communicated through his work. Artgrenade, only buy what you genuinely like. That way the fluctuations in art prices will not matter a damn thing. Some of the art I own has grown in value, other pieces have not however I really love all the works I own and they give me a lot of pleasure to look at on my walls. Just my 2cents. A See point 3 on my post - popular style right now. Goes well with the furniture. all in my opinion obviously! Many investors quickly as well tend to pump up prices. alot of hirst works are in big collections but he cannot sell to billionaires right now.
Pump up prices now who does that remind me of on UAA.....
Appreciate the comments FR but would you care to share any further insight into your Harland forecast? I ask as from what I see his work is always in high demand and sells rather quickly (with exception of a few not so wall friendly pieces). I have also observed his work being heavily invested into by large collectors, and art buyers such as the soho house group, Hix restaurants etc which continue to offer exposure to high end clientele worldwide. For transparency I do own a few pieces in my collection however it is not the main focus of my portfolio. I would genuinely be interested in your thoughts. With regards to my views on some other artists mentioned, I feel the Pejac message is strong one and is well communicated through his work. Artgrenade, only buy what you genuinely like. That way the fluctuations in art prices will not matter a damn thing. Some of the art I own has grown in value, other pieces have not however I really love all the works I own and they give me a lot of pleasure to look at on my walls. Just my 2cents. A See point 3 on my post - popular style right now. Goes well with the furniture. all in my opinion obviously! Many investors quickly as well tend to pump up prices. alot of hirst works are in big collections but he cannot sell to billionaires right now. Pump up prices now who does that remind me of on UAA.....
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 21:27:01 GMT 1, Appreciate the comments FR but would you care to share any further insight into your Harland forecast? I ask as from what I see his work is always in high demand and sells rather quickly (with exception of a few not so wall friendly pieces). I have also observed his work being heavily invested into by large collectors, and art buyers such as the soho house group, Hix restaurants etc which continue to offer exposure to high end clientele worldwide. For transparency I do own a few pieces in my collection however it is not the main focus of my portfolio. I would genuinely be interested in your thoughts. With regards to my views on some other artists mentioned, I feel the Pejac message is strong one and is well communicated through his work. Artgrenade, only buy what you genuinely like. That way the fluctuations in art prices will not matter a damn thing. Some of the art I own has grown in value, other pieces have not however I really love all the works I own and they give me a lot of pleasure to look at on my walls. Just my 2cents. A See point 3 on my post - popular style right now. Goes well with the furniture. all in my opinion obviously! Many investors quickly as well tend to pump up prices. alot of hirst works are in big collections but he cannot sell to billionaires right now. Regarding Harland....
Yes there are certainly an over abundance of chancer secondary sellers right now trying to set sales records on prints and take advantage of the recent interest. Certainly quite a bit of hype generated on this forum as a sales tactic from some of them. I've been insulted with several price quotes recently myself. (There are plenty of stand up sellers at actual market prices as well of course).
However Harland is not really in the same conversation as an artist as most mentioned by the OP..or for that matter 90% discussed on here when you look at his CV. The vast majority of his collectors are not likely hanging around this forum as his work isn't considered street, urban, graffiti, etc.. Likely he will be remembered as one of the important contemporary artists of his time.
At the end of the day we are talking about a well respected and absolute master painter backed by the White Cube machine, has works in major collections, has a global market, sold out every print ever made at this point, has a 2-3 year wait list on commissions, had the majority of his last show sold out at preview, demand for his work in on the incline not the decline, could go on and on..... This is a recipe for the bottom to fall out? Maybe...but not likely IMO. More likely it will stabilize for a bit and then who knows....
Hirst is a different conversation altogether and not exactly a reasonable comparison but I think you know that already. *** I do own some of HM's work ***
Appreciate the comments FR but would you care to share any further insight into your Harland forecast? I ask as from what I see his work is always in high demand and sells rather quickly (with exception of a few not so wall friendly pieces). I have also observed his work being heavily invested into by large collectors, and art buyers such as the soho house group, Hix restaurants etc which continue to offer exposure to high end clientele worldwide. For transparency I do own a few pieces in my collection however it is not the main focus of my portfolio. I would genuinely be interested in your thoughts. With regards to my views on some other artists mentioned, I feel the Pejac message is strong one and is well communicated through his work. Artgrenade, only buy what you genuinely like. That way the fluctuations in art prices will not matter a damn thing. Some of the art I own has grown in value, other pieces have not however I really love all the works I own and they give me a lot of pleasure to look at on my walls. Just my 2cents. A See point 3 on my post - popular style right now. Goes well with the furniture. all in my opinion obviously! Many investors quickly as well tend to pump up prices. alot of hirst works are in big collections but he cannot sell to billionaires right now. Regarding Harland.... Yes there are certainly an over abundance of chancer secondary sellers right now trying to set sales records on prints and take advantage of the recent interest. Certainly quite a bit of hype generated on this forum as a sales tactic from some of them. I've been insulted with several price quotes recently myself. (There are plenty of stand up sellers at actual market prices as well of course). However Harland is not really in the same conversation as an artist as most mentioned by the OP..or for that matter 90% discussed on here when you look at his CV. The vast majority of his collectors are not likely hanging around this forum as his work isn't considered street, urban, graffiti, etc.. Likely he will be remembered as one of the important contemporary artists of his time. At the end of the day we are talking about a well respected and absolute master painter backed by the White Cube machine, has works in major collections, has a global market, sold out every print ever made at this point, has a 2-3 year wait list on commissions, had the majority of his last show sold out at preview, demand for his work in on the incline not the decline, could go on and on..... This is a recipe for the bottom to fall out? Maybe...but not likely IMO. More likely it will stabilize for a bit and then who knows.... Hirst is a different conversation altogether and not exactly a reasonable comparison but I think you know that already. *** I do own some of HM's work ***
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Dive Jedi
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by Dive Jedi on Sept 4, 2017 21:36:18 GMT 1, Hi, welcome to the forum. I would suggest to collect Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa and Os Gemeos. Based upon my thorough professional analysis I advice you not to buy any Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash Happy collecting! Jedi Can you explain what your 'thorough professional analysis' is? Of course. I would be happy to elaborate, since sharing knowledge is the basis of this beautiful forum. Although I usually get generously compensated to advice people how to invest in art I will make an exeption for you.
In this case I start by analyzing all the previous post of the OP, to form a vision of preference. I also take in consideration the forum name and used avatar. Combining this with my extensive knowledge of the art world and cunning financial skills I decide on a course of action.
Then with my astonishing skill in using the Controle C and V buttons I copy the artists the OP likes and dislikes and compose my advice. It's a painful proces, but nevertheless very rewarding.
Hi, welcome to the forum. I would suggest to collect Pejac, Mehdi Ghadyanloo, Roa and Os Gemeos. Based upon my thorough professional analysis I advice you not to buy any Martin Whatson, Dolk, Eelus, Dave White, Copyright, Hush, Harland Miller, Snik, Pure Evil, Eine, Retna, Nick Walker and Mr Brainwash Happy collecting! Jedi Can you explain what your 'thorough professional analysis' is? Of course. I would be happy to elaborate, since sharing knowledge is the basis of this beautiful forum. Although I usually get generously compensated to advice people how to invest in art I will make an exeption for you. In this case I start by analyzing all the previous post of the OP, to form a vision of preference. I also take in consideration the forum name and used avatar. Combining this with my extensive knowledge of the art world and cunning financial skills I decide on a course of action. Then with my astonishing skill in using the Controle C and V buttons I copy the artists the OP likes and dislikes and compose my advice. It's a painful proces, but nevertheless very rewarding.
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met
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by met on Sept 4, 2017 22:00:47 GMT 1, Can you explain what your 'thorough professional analysis' is? Of course. I would be happy to elaborate, since sharing knowledge is the basis of this beautiful forum. Although I usually get generously compensated to advice people how to invest in art I will make an exeption for you. In this case I start by analyzing all the previous post of the OP, to form a vision of preference. I also take in consideration the forum name and used avatar. Combining this with my extensive knowledge of the art world and cunning financial skills I decide on a course of action. Then with my astonishing skill in using the Controle C and V buttons I copy the artists the OP likes and dislikes and compose my advice. It's a painful proces, but nevertheless very rewarding. E. B. White would be impressed.
Although I felt the question itself was unfair, you managed to respond without dissecting a frog.
Can you explain what your 'thorough professional analysis' is? Of course. I would be happy to elaborate, since sharing knowledge is the basis of this beautiful forum. Although I usually get generously compensated to advice people how to invest in art I will make an exeption for you. In this case I start by analyzing all the previous post of the OP, to form a vision of preference. I also take in consideration the forum name and used avatar. Combining this with my extensive knowledge of the art world and cunning financial skills I decide on a course of action. Then with my astonishing skill in using the Controle C and V buttons I copy the artists the OP likes and dislikes and compose my advice. It's a painful proces, but nevertheless very rewarding. E. B. White would be impressed. Although I felt the question itself was unfair, you managed to respond without dissecting a frog.
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Dive Jedi
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by Dive Jedi on Sept 4, 2017 22:18:20 GMT 1, Of course. I would be happy to elaborate, since sharing knowledge is the basis of this beautiful forum. Although I usually get generously compensated to advice people how to invest in art I will make an exeption for you. In this case I start by analyzing all the previous post of the OP, to form a vision of preference. I also take in consideration the forum name and used avatar. Combining this with my extensive knowledge of the art world and cunning financial skills I decide on a course of action. Then with my astonishing skill in using the Controle C and V buttons I copy the artists the OP likes and dislikes and compose my advice. It's a painful proces, but nevertheless very rewarding. E. B. White would be impressed. Although I felt the question itself was unfair, you managed to respond without dissecting a frog. I have no idea what that means, but I will just take it as a compliment. And one from met counts as triple word value.
I'm not remotely as eloquent as sir met in my own language, let alone in a foreign one.
Of course. I would be happy to elaborate, since sharing knowledge is the basis of this beautiful forum. Although I usually get generously compensated to advice people how to invest in art I will make an exeption for you. In this case I start by analyzing all the previous post of the OP, to form a vision of preference. I also take in consideration the forum name and used avatar. Combining this with my extensive knowledge of the art world and cunning financial skills I decide on a course of action. Then with my astonishing skill in using the Controle C and V buttons I copy the artists the OP likes and dislikes and compose my advice. It's a painful proces, but nevertheless very rewarding. E. B. White would be impressed. Although I felt the question itself was unfair, you managed to respond without dissecting a frog. I have no idea what that means, but I will just take it as a compliment. And one from met counts as triple word value. I'm not remotely as eloquent as sir met in my own language, let alone in a foreign one.
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overend
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by overend on Sept 4, 2017 22:24:32 GMT 1, Worth checking out the history of the scene and some of the pioneers like Seen and Futura for instance.
It's a shame that the Street Art section of the forum is now so neglected otherwise you could see some of the great artists out there keeping it real. A trip to Bristol is warmly recommended.
Worth checking out the history of the scene and some of the pioneers like Seen and Futura for instance.
It's a shame that the Street Art section of the forum is now so neglected otherwise you could see some of the great artists out there keeping it real. A trip to Bristol is warmly recommended.
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FЯ
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by FЯ on Sept 4, 2017 22:26:35 GMT 1, See point 3 on my post - popular style right now. Goes well with the furniture. all in my opinion obviously! Many investors quickly as well tend to pump up prices. alot of hirst works are in big collections but he cannot sell to billionaires right now. Regarding Harland.... Yes there are certainly an over abundance of chancer secondary sellers right now trying to set sales records on prints and take advantage of the recent interest. Certainly quite a bit of hype generated on this forum as a sales tactic from some of them. I've been insulted with several price quotes recently myself. (There are plenty of stand up sellers at actual market prices as well of course). However Harland is not really in the same conversation as an artist as most mentioned by the OP..or for that matter 90% discussed on here when you look at his CV. The vast majority of his collectors are not likely hanging around this forum as his work isn't considered street, urban, graffiti, etc.. Likely he will be remembered as one of the important contemporary artists of his time. At the end of the day we are talking about a well respected and absolute master painter backed by the White Cube machine, has works in major collections, has a global market, sold out every print ever made at this point, has a 2-3 year wait list on commissions, had the majority of his last show sold out at preview, demand for his work in on the incline not the decline, could go on and on..... This is a recipe for the bottom to fall out? Maybe...but not likely IMO. More likely it will stabilize for a bit and then who knows.... Hirst is a different conversation altogether and not exactly a reasonable comparison but I think you know that already. *** I do own some of HM's work *** Fair enough. I do not recall any of the master painters using an overhead projector though. what is the story behind these book covers? The stories last longer - things that people believe more than the aesthetic.
See point 3 on my post - popular style right now. Goes well with the furniture. all in my opinion obviously! Many investors quickly as well tend to pump up prices. alot of hirst works are in big collections but he cannot sell to billionaires right now. Regarding Harland.... Yes there are certainly an over abundance of chancer secondary sellers right now trying to set sales records on prints and take advantage of the recent interest. Certainly quite a bit of hype generated on this forum as a sales tactic from some of them. I've been insulted with several price quotes recently myself. (There are plenty of stand up sellers at actual market prices as well of course). However Harland is not really in the same conversation as an artist as most mentioned by the OP..or for that matter 90% discussed on here when you look at his CV. The vast majority of his collectors are not likely hanging around this forum as his work isn't considered street, urban, graffiti, etc.. Likely he will be remembered as one of the important contemporary artists of his time. At the end of the day we are talking about a well respected and absolute master painter backed by the White Cube machine, has works in major collections, has a global market, sold out every print ever made at this point, has a 2-3 year wait list on commissions, had the majority of his last show sold out at preview, demand for his work in on the incline not the decline, could go on and on..... This is a recipe for the bottom to fall out? Maybe...but not likely IMO. More likely it will stabilize for a bit and then who knows.... Hirst is a different conversation altogether and not exactly a reasonable comparison but I think you know that already. *** I do own some of HM's work *** Fair enough. I do not recall any of the master painters using an overhead projector though. what is the story behind these book covers? The stories last longer - things that people believe more than the aesthetic.
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 22:32:38 GMT 1, Regarding Harland.... Yes there are certainly an over abundance of chancer secondary sellers right now trying to set sales records on prints and take advantage of the recent interest. Certainly quite a bit of hype generated on this forum as a sales tactic from some of them. I've been insulted with several price quotes recently myself. (There are plenty of stand up sellers at actual market prices as well of course). However Harland is not really in the same conversation as an artist as most mentioned by the OP..or for that matter 90% discussed on here when you look at his CV. The vast majority of his collectors are not likely hanging around this forum as his work isn't considered street, urban, graffiti, etc.. Likely he will be remembered as one of the important contemporary artists of his time. At the end of the day we are talking about a well respected and absolute master painter backed by the White Cube machine, has works in major collections, has a global market, sold out every print ever made at this point, has a 2-3 year wait list on commissions, had the majority of his last show sold out at preview, demand for his work in on the incline not the decline, could go on and on..... This is a recipe for the bottom to fall out? Maybe...but not likely IMO. More likely it will stabilize for a bit and then who knows.... Hirst is a different conversation altogether and not exactly a reasonable comparison but I think you know that already. *** I do own some of HM's work *** Fair enough. I do not recall any of the master painters using an overhead projector though. what is the story behind these book covers? The stories last longer - things that people believe more than the aesthetic. I think you may be confusing the Connor Brothers or one of the other imitators. Harland doesn't use an overhead projector to create his works.
Regarding Harland.... Yes there are certainly an over abundance of chancer secondary sellers right now trying to set sales records on prints and take advantage of the recent interest. Certainly quite a bit of hype generated on this forum as a sales tactic from some of them. I've been insulted with several price quotes recently myself. (There are plenty of stand up sellers at actual market prices as well of course). However Harland is not really in the same conversation as an artist as most mentioned by the OP..or for that matter 90% discussed on here when you look at his CV. The vast majority of his collectors are not likely hanging around this forum as his work isn't considered street, urban, graffiti, etc.. Likely he will be remembered as one of the important contemporary artists of his time. At the end of the day we are talking about a well respected and absolute master painter backed by the White Cube machine, has works in major collections, has a global market, sold out every print ever made at this point, has a 2-3 year wait list on commissions, had the majority of his last show sold out at preview, demand for his work in on the incline not the decline, could go on and on..... This is a recipe for the bottom to fall out? Maybe...but not likely IMO. More likely it will stabilize for a bit and then who knows.... Hirst is a different conversation altogether and not exactly a reasonable comparison but I think you know that already. *** I do own some of HM's work *** Fair enough. I do not recall any of the master painters using an overhead projector though. what is the story behind these book covers? The stories last longer - things that people believe more than the aesthetic. I think you may be confusing the Connor Brothers or one of the other imitators. Harland doesn't use an overhead projector to create his works.
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FЯ
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by FЯ on Sept 4, 2017 22:37:53 GMT 1, Fair enough. I do not recall any of the master painters using an overhead projector though. what is the story behind these book covers? The stories last longer - things that people believe more than the aesthetic. I think you may be confusing the Connor Brothers or one of the other imitators. Harland doesn't use an overhead projector to create his works. So what about the story behind the aesthetic. What are the legs?
Fair enough. I do not recall any of the master painters using an overhead projector though. what is the story behind these book covers? The stories last longer - things that people believe more than the aesthetic. I think you may be confusing the Connor Brothers or one of the other imitators. Harland doesn't use an overhead projector to create his works. So what about the story behind the aesthetic. What are the legs?
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mose
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by mose on Sept 4, 2017 22:39:23 GMT 1, Regarding Harland.... Yes there are certainly an over abundance of chancer secondary sellers right now trying to set sales records on prints and take advantage of the recent interest. Certainly quite a bit of hype generated on this forum as a sales tactic from some of them. I've been insulted with several price quotes recently myself. (There are plenty of stand up sellers at actual market prices as well of course). However Harland is not really in the same conversation as an artist as most mentioned by the OP..or for that matter 90% discussed on here when you look at his CV. The vast majority of his collectors are not likely hanging around this forum as his work isn't considered street, urban, graffiti, etc.. Likely he will be remembered as one of the important contemporary artists of his time. At the end of the day we are talking about a well respected and absolute master painter backed by the White Cube machine, has works in major collections, has a global market, sold out every print ever made at this point, has a 2-3 year wait list on commissions, had the majority of his last show sold out at preview, demand for his work in on the incline not the decline, could go on and on..... This is a recipe for the bottom to fall out? Maybe...but not likely IMO. More likely it will stabilize for a bit and then who knows.... Hirst is a different conversation altogether and not exactly a reasonable comparison but I think you know that already. *** I do own some of HM's work *** Fair enough. I do not recall any of the master painters using an overhead projector though. what is the story behind these book covers? The stories last longer - things that people believe more than the aesthetic. Franz Kline used an overhead almost exclusively on his well known works. He was given his first one by Willem de Kooning.
Vermeer is theorized to have utilized a camera obscura.
Regarding Harland.... Yes there are certainly an over abundance of chancer secondary sellers right now trying to set sales records on prints and take advantage of the recent interest. Certainly quite a bit of hype generated on this forum as a sales tactic from some of them. I've been insulted with several price quotes recently myself. (There are plenty of stand up sellers at actual market prices as well of course). However Harland is not really in the same conversation as an artist as most mentioned by the OP..or for that matter 90% discussed on here when you look at his CV. The vast majority of his collectors are not likely hanging around this forum as his work isn't considered street, urban, graffiti, etc.. Likely he will be remembered as one of the important contemporary artists of his time. At the end of the day we are talking about a well respected and absolute master painter backed by the White Cube machine, has works in major collections, has a global market, sold out every print ever made at this point, has a 2-3 year wait list on commissions, had the majority of his last show sold out at preview, demand for his work in on the incline not the decline, could go on and on..... This is a recipe for the bottom to fall out? Maybe...but not likely IMO. More likely it will stabilize for a bit and then who knows.... Hirst is a different conversation altogether and not exactly a reasonable comparison but I think you know that already. *** I do own some of HM's work *** Fair enough. I do not recall any of the master painters using an overhead projector though. what is the story behind these book covers? The stories last longer - things that people believe more than the aesthetic. Franz Kline used an overhead almost exclusively on his well known works. He was given his first one by Willem de Kooning. Vermeer is theorized to have utilized a camera obscura.
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Matt
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Urban Art - Who to collect or not!, by Matt on Sept 4, 2017 22:48:42 GMT 1, I like Harland's stuff, I really do. It looks good on the wall, and most of the one liners make me chuckle. I am happy to own 2 prints, they look really great on the wall.
But I see absolutely 0 chance of this guy being "remembered as one of the important contemporary artists of his time"
Being backed by a nice gallery, selling out prints and having people wanting commissions because they saw it in a trendy club does not guarantee longevity. There are numerous counter examples.
HM is a respectable and reasonably successful artist indeed, but there is honestly nothing so outstanding in his output / process / message etc... that would make him worthy of posterity.
I like Harland's stuff, I really do. It looks good on the wall, and most of the one liners make me chuckle. I am happy to own 2 prints, they look really great on the wall.
But I see absolutely 0 chance of this guy being "remembered as one of the important contemporary artists of his time"
Being backed by a nice gallery, selling out prints and having people wanting commissions because they saw it in a trendy club does not guarantee longevity. There are numerous counter examples.
HM is a respectable and reasonably successful artist indeed, but there is honestly nothing so outstanding in his output / process / message etc... that would make him worthy of posterity.
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