cdonald
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Framing a print with Zero Bleed, by cdonald on Sept 7, 2017 6:21:50 GMT 1, Hi, have just had one of Noirs works sent out to me here in NZ. Can anyone give advice on how to frame a print with zero bleed. The framers here are saying that they need to glue it to board which scares me. Is that the only way of doing it or is there a better way which will preserve the print.
Thanks in advance
Chris
Hi, have just had one of Noirs works sent out to me here in NZ. Can anyone give advice on how to frame a print with zero bleed. The framers here are saying that they need to glue it to board which scares me. Is that the only way of doing it or is there a better way which will preserve the print.
Thanks in advance
Chris
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broke
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Framing a print with Zero Bleed, by broke on Sept 7, 2017 8:34:13 GMT 1, Don't let them glue it to a board. All it needs is a mount to just catch on over each edge. Would losing 2mm each side of the print really matter?
Don't let them glue it to a board. All it needs is a mount to just catch on over each edge. Would losing 2mm each side of the print really matter?
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Framing a print with Zero Bleed, by Everyone Owes on Sept 7, 2017 8:43:26 GMT 1, I think Gary MFM picks up from NZ every other Wednesday....😉
But seriously, good luck with that - absolutely no glue. Picture frame, not window!
I think Gary MFM picks up from NZ every other Wednesday....😉
But seriously, good luck with that - absolutely no glue. Picture frame, not window!
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rockbeer
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Framing a print with Zero Bleed, by rockbeer on Sept 7, 2017 8:50:21 GMT 1, If by zero bleed you mean full bleed then you have two realistic options. Either, as broke says, a mat with the window cut slightly smaller than the print, so that it obscures a few mm of the edge all around. Or floating on a backing board so the whole print is visible, with frame spacers to keep it away from the glass.
Gluing it to the mount board is never the right approach. It should be secured with T hinges.
I'd honestly find yourself another framer quick - the ones you're using sound scary. Are they primarily photographic framers by any chance? It's common to glue photos to boards and I understand that in the photography world this is routinely regarded as a conservation method.
If by zero bleed you mean full bleed then you have two realistic options. Either, as broke says, a mat with the window cut slightly smaller than the print, so that it obscures a few mm of the edge all around. Or floating on a backing board so the whole print is visible, with frame spacers to keep it away from the glass.
Gluing it to the mount board is never the right approach. It should be secured with T hinges.
I'd honestly find yourself another framer quick - the ones you're using sound scary. Are they primarily photographic framers by any chance? It's common to glue photos to boards and I understand that in the photography world this is routinely regarded as a conservation method.
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Framing a print with Zero Bleed, by kristakis on Sept 7, 2017 9:26:21 GMT 1, how about edge to edge with the possibility of matching colour spacers.. Noirs tend to be very colourful and could look great.
how about edge to edge with the possibility of matching colour spacers.. Noirs tend to be very colourful and could look great.
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Framing a print with Zero Bleed, by Happy Shopper on Sept 7, 2017 10:30:12 GMT 1, Your options are clear plastic corners to hold the piece (which look a bit ugly to me, but use no glue), or Japanese hinges to float mount it. This does involve gluing paper hinges to the back of the piece, but they should use something that's reversible. (As far as I know they do the same to hold it in position with a mount too, so either way there's a type of glue involved).
Your options are clear plastic corners to hold the piece (which look a bit ugly to me, but use no glue), or Japanese hinges to float mount it. This does involve gluing paper hinges to the back of the piece, but they should use something that's reversible. (As far as I know they do the same to hold it in position with a mount too, so either way there's a type of glue involved).
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rockbeer
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Framing a print with Zero Bleed, by rockbeer on Sept 7, 2017 12:35:48 GMT 1, In the end you need to decide how you want it to look in the frame (edge to edge, floated, or behind a window) and then find a reputable framer who will do it properly for you.
In the UK we have the Fine Art Trade Guild, which publishes a range of standards for framing and also provides accreditation for framers who meet the standards. So you have a fair idea you're in safe hands if you go to an accredited framer. Might be worth seeing if there's some kind of NZ equivalent.
In the end you need to decide how you want it to look in the frame (edge to edge, floated, or behind a window) and then find a reputable framer who will do it properly for you.
In the UK we have the Fine Art Trade Guild, which publishes a range of standards for framing and also provides accreditation for framers who meet the standards. So you have a fair idea you're in safe hands if you go to an accredited framer. Might be worth seeing if there's some kind of NZ equivalent.
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Framing a print with Zero Bleed, by soupy on Sept 7, 2017 13:30:06 GMT 1, if their first suggestion is to glue it (drymount it) to board, they obviously are not well qualified to frame limited edition artwork. more than likely work with photos or other non-LE prints. i would go somewhere else.
if you haven't used framers in your area, call around and ask LOTS of questions about process & materials. if you don't know what questions to ask, do your research beforehand. the key is to know how to archivally frame (museum quality, etc) so that you know what questions to ask AND to know the correct answers to the questions (that is how you find a framer that knows what they are doing).
personally, i only like to float prints that have deckled edges. if they are full bleed with straight edges, i don't mind matting them as you lose very little of the image.
p.s. just got back from an awesome vacation in queenstown. went to milford sound, mt cook, skiing at cardrona peak & treble cone, etc.
if their first suggestion is to glue it (drymount it) to board, they obviously are not well qualified to frame limited edition artwork. more than likely work with photos or other non-LE prints. i would go somewhere else.
if you haven't used framers in your area, call around and ask LOTS of questions about process & materials. if you don't know what questions to ask, do your research beforehand. the key is to know how to archivally frame (museum quality, etc) so that you know what questions to ask AND to know the correct answers to the questions (that is how you find a framer that knows what they are doing).
personally, i only like to float prints that have deckled edges. if they are full bleed with straight edges, i don't mind matting them as you lose very little of the image.
p.s. just got back from an awesome vacation in queenstown. went to milford sound, mt cook, skiing at cardrona peak & treble cone, etc.
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cdonald
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Framing a print with Zero Bleed, by cdonald on Sept 7, 2017 23:36:57 GMT 1, Thanks for the advice guys. I am checking out a few other options with framers and have also asked our Art museam where they get their work done. Short of that I am visiting London in October so will get it done then (recommendations in Brentwood area?)
One of the framers here have suggested that they could scan the Noir for me so in case they damage it they could print me out another "poster". How kind. I almost vomited.
Thanks for the advice guys. I am checking out a few other options with framers and have also asked our Art museam where they get their work done. Short of that I am visiting London in October so will get it done then (recommendations in Brentwood area?)
One of the framers here have suggested that they could scan the Noir for me so in case they damage it they could print me out another "poster". How kind. I almost vomited.
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Framing a print with Zero Bleed, by Aza on Sept 8, 2017 8:37:19 GMT 1, Thanks for the advice guys. I am checking out a few other options with framers and have also asked our Art museam where they get their work done. Short of that I am visiting London in October so will get it done then (recommendations in Brentwood area?) One of the framers here have suggested that they could scan the Noir for me so in case they damage it they could print me out another "poster". How kind. I almost vomited.
Oh dear that made me spit my coffee out!
Thanks for the advice guys. I am checking out a few other options with framers and have also asked our Art museam where they get their work done. Short of that I am visiting London in October so will get it done then (recommendations in Brentwood area?) One of the framers here have suggested that they could scan the Noir for me so in case they damage it they could print me out another "poster". How kind. I almost vomited. Oh dear that made me spit my coffee out! |
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