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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Rouen Cathedral on Oct 6, 2017 1:29:38 GMT 1, Yes let’s just get people there to see the hotel? What kind of lazy answer is that. Mr. Rich man come to my hotel and pick up your print! Then if you choose please flip it on eBay! While here it’s okay to ignore that big wall. Maybe take a few photos for your Instagram and Facebook to show your friends. And while your at it ignore the oppression, the murder, the wars because you know what I got you to come to my hotel! Bravo banksy bravo! Not.... Try not to be more stupid than you can help - though clearly it's very difficult for you. Did you actually read what I wrote? Clearly not. Okay, try the following: 1. Some people will go for a print but find something else when they get there. This is happening - people are saying so on these very boards. 2. Rich people (and wannabe rich people) will stop going just to buy prints when they realise the prints are essentially worthless. 3. You go to Bethlehem it's very f**king hard to 'ignore the wall'. 4. He doesn't want people to go 'to see the hotel'. What kind of an utterly thoughtless answer is that? You can't seriously be suggesting this is for his ego. The point of the hotel is to get people to go and see Palestine. Surely even you can see that? By the way, I'm sure you have your motivations, and you're as entitled to them as anyone else, but what pleasure do you get from deliberately and wilfully misrepresenting people rather than addressing the actual points they're making? Your whole post is basically a refutation of the precise opposite of my argument. Weird.
Find me three members here who went for the print only to be ‘enlightened’ as you so call say. Please do share.
Yes let’s just get people there to see the hotel? What kind of lazy answer is that. Mr. Rich man come to my hotel and pick up your print! Then if you choose please flip it on eBay! While here it’s okay to ignore that big wall. Maybe take a few photos for your Instagram and Facebook to show your friends. And while your at it ignore the oppression, the murder, the wars because you know what I got you to come to my hotel! Bravo banksy bravo! Not.... Try not to be more stupid than you can help - though clearly it's very difficult for you. Did you actually read what I wrote? Clearly not. Okay, try the following: 1. Some people will go for a print but find something else when they get there. This is happening - people are saying so on these very boards. 2. Rich people (and wannabe rich people) will stop going just to buy prints when they realise the prints are essentially worthless. 3. You go to Bethlehem it's very f**king hard to 'ignore the wall'. 4. He doesn't want people to go 'to see the hotel'. What kind of an utterly thoughtless answer is that? You can't seriously be suggesting this is for his ego. The point of the hotel is to get people to go and see Palestine. Surely even you can see that? By the way, I'm sure you have your motivations, and you're as entitled to them as anyone else, but what pleasure do you get from deliberately and wilfully misrepresenting people rather than addressing the actual points they're making? Your whole post is basically a refutation of the precise opposite of my argument. Weird. Find me three members here who went for the print only to be ‘enlightened’ as you so call say. Please do share. |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Rouen Cathedral on Oct 6, 2017 1:32:29 GMT 1, Yes let’s just get people there to see the hotel? What kind of lazy answer is that. Mr. Rich man come to my hotel and pick up your print! Then if you choose please flip it on eBay! While here it’s okay to ignore that big wall. Maybe take a few photos for your Instagram and Facebook to show your friends. And while your at it ignore the oppression, the murder, the wars because you know what I got you to come to my hotel! Bravo banksy bravo! Not.... Try not to be more stupid than you can help - though clearly it's very difficult for you. Did you actually read what I wrote? Clearly not. Okay, try the following: 1. Some people will go for a print but find something else when they get there. This is happening - people are saying so on these very boards. 2. Rich people (and wannabe rich people) will stop going just to buy prints when they realise the prints are essentially worthless. 3. You go to Bethlehem it's very f**king hard to 'ignore the wall'. 4. He doesn't want people to go 'to see the hotel'. What kind of an utterly thoughtless answer is that? You can't seriously be suggesting this is for his ego. The point of the hotel is to get people to go and see Palestine. Surely even you can see that? By the way, I'm sure you have your motivations, and you're as entitled to them as anyone else, but what pleasure do you get from deliberately and wilfully misrepresenting people rather than addressing the actual points they're making? Your whole post is basically a refutation of the precise opposite of my argument. Weird.
If the recent merchandise releases (and let's not kid ourselves, that's what they are, however much people might want to imagine they're something else) have achieved his objective of getting more people to Palestine then it's job done
That’s an exact quote from your post. Get people to Palestine = job done.
Except it’s not ‘job done’.
Yes let’s just get people there to see the hotel? What kind of lazy answer is that. Mr. Rich man come to my hotel and pick up your print! Then if you choose please flip it on eBay! While here it’s okay to ignore that big wall. Maybe take a few photos for your Instagram and Facebook to show your friends. And while your at it ignore the oppression, the murder, the wars because you know what I got you to come to my hotel! Bravo banksy bravo! Not.... Try not to be more stupid than you can help - though clearly it's very difficult for you. Did you actually read what I wrote? Clearly not. Okay, try the following: 1. Some people will go for a print but find something else when they get there. This is happening - people are saying so on these very boards. 2. Rich people (and wannabe rich people) will stop going just to buy prints when they realise the prints are essentially worthless. 3. You go to Bethlehem it's very f**king hard to 'ignore the wall'. 4. He doesn't want people to go 'to see the hotel'. What kind of an utterly thoughtless answer is that? You can't seriously be suggesting this is for his ego. The point of the hotel is to get people to go and see Palestine. Surely even you can see that? By the way, I'm sure you have your motivations, and you're as entitled to them as anyone else, but what pleasure do you get from deliberately and wilfully misrepresenting people rather than addressing the actual points they're making? Your whole post is basically a refutation of the precise opposite of my argument. Weird. If the recent merchandise releases (and let's not kid ourselves, that's what they are, however much people might want to imagine they're something else) have achieved his objective of getting more people to Palestine then it's job done That’s an exact quote from your post. Get people to Palestine = job done. Except it’s not ‘job done’. |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Unica on Oct 6, 2017 1:53:03 GMT 1, He might hope that, in some cases at least, people will go for a print but return having discovered something else. That certainly sems to have happend to a few folk on here. That said, a kind of collective (and I use the word advisedly) madness seems to have kicked in around these box sets. I do find it curious that you seem to hold Banksy responsible for the idiocy of the human species. I suspect you're shooting the messenger. I think you are being not naive when it comes to banksy. He doesn’t deserve to be coddled. There is a reason he hasn’t released a print for almost a decade. To think he doesn’t think this through is kind of insulting to him...
He might hope that, in some cases at least, people will go for a print but return having discovered something else. That certainly sems to have happend to a few folk on here. That said, a kind of collective (and I use the word advisedly) madness seems to have kicked in around these box sets. I do find it curious that you seem to hold Banksy responsible for the idiocy of the human species. I suspect you're shooting the messenger. I think you are being not naive when it comes to banksy. He doesn’t deserve to be coddled. There is a reason he hasn’t released a print for almost a decade. To think he doesn’t think this through is kind of insulting to him... Why do you think he hasn't released a print to the general public in 7 years? |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Laugh Now 10 on Oct 6, 2017 2:51:35 GMT 1, I think you are being not naive when it comes to banksy. He doesn’t deserve to be coddled. There is a reason he hasn’t released a print for almost a decade. To think he doesn’t think this through is kind of insulting to him... Why do you think he hasn't released a print to the general public in 7 years?
Because he is too busy touring with the greatest trip hop act of all time?
I think you are being not naive when it comes to banksy. He doesn’t deserve to be coddled. There is a reason he hasn’t released a print for almost a decade. To think he doesn’t think this through is kind of insulting to him... Why do you think he hasn't released a print to the general public in 7 years? Because he is too busy touring with the greatest trip hop act of all time? |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by dreadnatty on Oct 6, 2017 3:07:54 GMT 1, I'm currently enjoying members with 6 stars thinking they're better than everyone else.
I'm currently enjoying members with 6 stars thinking they're better than everyone else. They arent any better but have prob contributed (a fair amount of) art content. Something that rarely goes on here much anymore. |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by nobokov on Oct 6, 2017 3:47:06 GMT 1, I don't understand why people are speculating about the intentions of a person(s) whose identity is secret and with whom we've never spoken to. What's the point?
I don't understand why people are speculating about the intentions of a person(s) whose identity is secret and with whom we've never spoken to. What's the point?
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by saint on Oct 6, 2017 6:53:37 GMT 1, I think you are being not naive when it comes to banksy. He doesn’t deserve to be coddled. There is a reason he hasn’t released a print for almost a decade. To think he doesn’t think this through is kind of insulting to him... Why do you think he hasn't released a print to the general public in 7 years?
This is a good question, and well phrased.
He has released prints during the last few years.
He has not however released prints to the general public in years.
Perhaps this was to minimise flipping, and to stop the ludicrous behaviour we saw at the CYW release?
I think you are being not naive when it comes to banksy. He doesn’t deserve to be coddled. There is a reason he hasn’t released a print for almost a decade. To think he doesn’t think this through is kind of insulting to him... Why do you think he hasn't released a print to the general public in 7 years? This is a good question, and well phrased. He has released prints during the last few years. He has not however released prints to the general public in years. Perhaps this was to minimise flipping, and to stop the ludicrous behaviour we saw at the CYW release? |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 7:06:21 GMT 1, Why do you think he hasn't released a print to the general public in 7 years? This is a good question, and well phrased. He has released prints during the last few years. He has not however released prints to the general public in years. Perhaps this was to minimise flipping, and to stop the ludicrous behaviour we saw at the Choose Your Weapon release?
He hasn't released prints because it could damage the current print market which is overinflated. Clearly Banksy is happy with this and doesn't want it changing.
If Banksy wanted he could do a Hirst and pump out tens of thousands of prints and let them sit unsold for years. There need not be any queues or flipping at all.
Why do you think he hasn't released a print to the general public in 7 years? This is a good question, and well phrased. He has released prints during the last few years. He has not however released prints to the general public in years. Perhaps this was to minimise flipping, and to stop the ludicrous behaviour we saw at the Choose Your Weapon release? He hasn't released prints because it could damage the current print market which is overinflated. Clearly Banksy is happy with this and doesn't want it changing. If Banksy wanted he could do a Hirst and pump out tens of thousands of prints and let them sit unsold for years. There need not be any queues or flipping at all. |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by iamzero on Oct 6, 2017 7:09:14 GMT 1, It’s all gone very Lord Of The Flies in here lately...
It’s all gone very Lord Of The Flies in here lately...
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by saint on Oct 6, 2017 7:20:41 GMT 1, This is a good question, and well phrased. He has released prints during the last few years. He has not however released prints to the general public in years. Perhaps this was to minimise flipping, and to stop the ludicrous behaviour we saw at the Choose Your Weapon release? He hasn't released prints because it could damage the current print market which is overinflated. Clearly Banksy is happy with this and doesn't want it changing. If Banksy wanted he could do a Hirst and pump out tens of thousands of prints and let them sit unsold for years. There need not be any queues or flipping at all.
Like there isn't with brainwashes prints? Or Obey?
He has released prints, that's the point I'm making. Since CYW there are at least 3 prints he's released.
He also never pumped out prints before the surge in prices, so I don't agree with you.
This is a good question, and well phrased. He has released prints during the last few years. He has not however released prints to the general public in years. Perhaps this was to minimise flipping, and to stop the ludicrous behaviour we saw at the Choose Your Weapon release? He hasn't released prints because it could damage the current print market which is overinflated. Clearly Banksy is happy with this and doesn't want it changing. If Banksy wanted he could do a Hirst and pump out tens of thousands of prints and let them sit unsold for years. There need not be any queues or flipping at all. Like there isn't with brainwashes prints? Or Obey? He has released prints, that's the point I'm making. Since CYW there are at least 3 prints he's released. He also never pumped out prints before the surge in prices, so I don't agree with you. |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 7:28:32 GMT 1, He hasn't released prints because it could damage the current print market which is overinflated. Clearly Banksy is happy with this and doesn't want it changing. If Banksy wanted he could do a Hirst and pump out tens of thousands of prints and let them sit unsold for years. There need not be any queues or flipping at all. Like there isn't with brainwashes prints? Or Obey? He has released prints, that's the point I'm making. Since Choose Your Weapon there are at least 3 prints he's released. He also never pumped out prints before the surge in prices, so I don't agree with you.
You don't have agree, it's just the laws of economics that stand pretty true. The Banksy 'economy' could be massively changed with a significant influx of new multiple editions. Look on eBay to see there are plenty of affordable Brainwash or Obey prints, and although the odd one is flipped most aren't.
He hasn't released prints because it could damage the current print market which is overinflated. Clearly Banksy is happy with this and doesn't want it changing. If Banksy wanted he could do a Hirst and pump out tens of thousands of prints and let them sit unsold for years. There need not be any queues or flipping at all. Like there isn't with brainwashes prints? Or Obey? He has released prints, that's the point I'm making. Since Choose Your Weapon there are at least 3 prints he's released. He also never pumped out prints before the surge in prices, so I don't agree with you. You don't have agree, it's just the laws of economics that stand pretty true. The Banksy 'economy' could be massively changed with a significant influx of new multiple editions. Look on eBay to see there are plenty of affordable Brainwash or Obey prints, and although the odd one is flipped most aren't. |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Art Fan 2011 on Oct 6, 2017 7:29:12 GMT 1, I'm currently enjoying members with 6 stars thinking they're better than everyone else.
21 posts - 19 hyping the Banksy boxset set - really enjoyed your input on this one.....
I'm currently enjoying members with 6 stars thinking they're better than everyone else. 21 posts - 19 hyping the Banksy boxset set - really enjoyed your input on this one..... |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by saint on Oct 6, 2017 7:39:24 GMT 1, Like there isn't with brainwashes prints? Or Obey? He has released prints, that's the point I'm making. Since Choose Your Weapon there are at least 3 prints he's released. He also never pumped out prints before the surge in prices, so I don't agree with you. You don't have agree, it's just the laws of economics that stand pretty true. The Banksy 'economy' could be massively changed with a significant influx of new multiple editions. Look on eBay to see there are plenty of affordable Brainwash or Obey prints, and although the odd one is flipped most aren't.
Yet there are plenty on eBay? So they are being flipped, it's just that the image quality isn't good enough to make them desirable.
Like there isn't with brainwashes prints? Or Obey? He has released prints, that's the point I'm making. Since Choose Your Weapon there are at least 3 prints he's released. He also never pumped out prints before the surge in prices, so I don't agree with you. You don't have agree, it's just the laws of economics that stand pretty true. The Banksy 'economy' could be massively changed with a significant influx of new multiple editions. Look on eBay to see there are plenty of affordable Brainwash or Obey prints, and although the odd one is flipped most aren't. Yet there are plenty on eBay? So they are being flipped, it's just that the image quality isn't good enough to make them desirable. |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 8:58:05 GMT 1, You don't have agree, it's just the laws of economics that stand pretty true. The Banksy 'economy' could be massively changed with a significant influx of new multiple editions. Look on eBay to see there are plenty of affordable Brainwash or Obey prints, and although the odd one is flipped most aren't. Yet there are plenty on eBay? So they are being flipped, it's just that the image quality isn't good enough to make them desirable.
Some are flipped but there are plenty of older images that can be picked up at relatively affordable prices. Hirst or the other Whitecube types are more the model that I'm talking about than Obey. In other words high end and high volume art that doesn't instantly sell out.
You don't have agree, it's just the laws of economics that stand pretty true. The Banksy 'economy' could be massively changed with a significant influx of new multiple editions. Look on eBay to see there are plenty of affordable Brainwash or Obey prints, and although the odd one is flipped most aren't. Yet there are plenty on eBay? So they are being flipped, it's just that the image quality isn't good enough to make them desirable. Some are flipped but there are plenty of older images that can be picked up at relatively affordable prices. Hirst or the other Whitecube types are more the model that I'm talking about than Obey. In other words high end and high volume art that doesn't instantly sell out. |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Season of Mist on Oct 6, 2017 11:06:38 GMT 1, If you set a price, please let me know Rather buy here than on ebay as well. But not willing to overpay either. Theres currently like 20 on ebay with all countries included, and more coming
2k$ seems to be the fair price those days.
If you set a price, please let me know Rather buy here than on ebay as well. But not willing to overpay either. Theres currently like 20 on ebay with all countries included, and more coming 2k$ seems to be the fair price those days. |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Rouen Cathedral on Oct 6, 2017 12:10:54 GMT 1, I don't understand why people are speculating about the intentions of a person(s) whose identity is secret and with whom we've never spoken to. What's the point?
Yes imagine that. Analyzing an artist and their work.
The field of art history should just be erased everyone!
I don't understand why people are speculating about the intentions of a person(s) whose identity is secret and with whom we've never spoken to. What's the point? Yes imagine that. Analyzing an artist and their work. The field of art history should just be erased everyone! |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Rouen Cathedral on Oct 6, 2017 12:14:05 GMT 1, Yes let’s just get people there to see the hotel? What kind of lazy answer is that. Mr. Rich man come to my hotel and pick up your print! Then if you choose please flip it on eBay! While here it’s okay to ignore that big wall. Maybe take a few photos for your Instagram and Facebook to show your friends. And while your at it ignore the oppression, the murder, the wars because you know what I got you to come to my hotel! Bravo banksy bravo! Not.... Try not to be more stupid than you can help - though clearly it's very difficult for you. Did you actually read what I wrote? Clearly not. Okay, try the following: 1. Some people will go for a print but find something else when they get there. This is happening - people are saying so on these very boards. 2. Rich people (and wannabe rich people) will stop going just to buy prints when they realise the prints are essentially worthless. 3. You go to Bethlehem it's very f**king hard to 'ignore the wall'. 4. He doesn't want people to go 'to see the hotel'. What kind of an utterly thoughtless answer is that? You can't seriously be suggesting this is for his ego. The point of the hotel is to get people to go and see Palestine. Surely even you can see that? By the way, I'm sure you have your motivations, and you're as entitled to them as anyone else, but what pleasure do you get from deliberately and wilfully misrepresenting people rather than addressing the actual points they're making? Your whole post is basically a refutation of the precise opposite of my argument. Weird.
Find me three members here who went for the print only to be ‘enlightened’ as you so call say. Please do share.
I’m still waiting. I thought this would be easy as you made it you’d first point and argument.
Yes let’s just get people there to see the hotel? What kind of lazy answer is that. Mr. Rich man come to my hotel and pick up your print! Then if you choose please flip it on eBay! While here it’s okay to ignore that big wall. Maybe take a few photos for your Instagram and Facebook to show your friends. And while your at it ignore the oppression, the murder, the wars because you know what I got you to come to my hotel! Bravo banksy bravo! Not.... Try not to be more stupid than you can help - though clearly it's very difficult for you. Did you actually read what I wrote? Clearly not. Okay, try the following: 1. Some people will go for a print but find something else when they get there. This is happening - people are saying so on these very boards. 2. Rich people (and wannabe rich people) will stop going just to buy prints when they realise the prints are essentially worthless. 3. You go to Bethlehem it's very f**king hard to 'ignore the wall'. 4. He doesn't want people to go 'to see the hotel'. What kind of an utterly thoughtless answer is that? You can't seriously be suggesting this is for his ego. The point of the hotel is to get people to go and see Palestine. Surely even you can see that? By the way, I'm sure you have your motivations, and you're as entitled to them as anyone else, but what pleasure do you get from deliberately and wilfully misrepresenting people rather than addressing the actual points they're making? Your whole post is basically a refutation of the precise opposite of my argument. Weird. Find me three members here who went for the print only to be ‘enlightened’ as you so call say. Please do share. I’m still waiting. I thought this would be easy as you made it you’d first point and argument. |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Cookiemonster on Oct 6, 2017 13:04:42 GMT 1, I don't understand why people are speculating about the intentions of a person(s) whose identity is secret and with whom we've never spoken to. What's the point? Yes imagine that. Analyzing an artist and their work. The field of art history should just be erased everyone!
I don't understand why people are speculating about the intentions of a person(s) whose identity is secret and with whom we've never spoken to. What's the point? Yes imagine that. Analyzing an artist and their work. The field of art history should just be erased everyone! why dont you just erase your account you cunt |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by iamzero on Oct 6, 2017 13:16:15 GMT 1, I love the fact you use the be polite avatar while calling someone a cunt. Made my day.
I love the fact you use the be polite avatar while calling someone a cunt. Made my day.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by tab1 on Oct 6, 2017 13:47:50 GMT 1, I love the fact you use the be polite avatar while calling someone a cunt. Made my day.
Read the text underneath the bold polite text :-0
I love the fact you use the be polite avatar while calling someone a cunt. Made my day. Read the text underneath the bold polite text :-0 |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Rouen Cathedral on Oct 6, 2017 15:39:16 GMT 1, Yes imagine that. Analyzing an artist and their work. The field of art history should just be erased everyone! why dont you just erase your account you cunt
I thought this forum was to discuss art. Sorry...
Yes imagine that. Analyzing an artist and their work. The field of art history should just be erased everyone! why dont you just erase your account you cunt I thought this forum was to discuss art. Sorry... |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Unica on Oct 6, 2017 16:41:37 GMT 1, Why do you think he hasn't released a print to the general public in 7 years? This is a good question, and well phrased. He has released prints during the last few years. He has not however released prints to the general public in years. Perhaps this was to minimise flipping, and to stop the ludicrous behaviour we saw at the Choose Your Weapon release?
Why do you think he hasn't released a print to the general public in 7 years? This is a good question, and well phrased. He has released prints during the last few years. He has not however released prints to the general public in years. Perhaps this was to minimise flipping, and to stop the ludicrous behaviour we saw at the Choose Your Weapon release? I'm well aware of all those reasons, the question was directed at Murkke, I wanted to know what he thought the reason was. |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Unica on Oct 6, 2017 16:44:42 GMT 1, If you set a price, please let me know Rather buy here than on ebay as well. But not willing to overpay either. Theres currently like 20 on ebay with all countries included, and more coming 2k$ seems to be the fair price those days.
If you set a price, please let me know Rather buy here than on ebay as well. But not willing to overpay either. Theres currently like 20 on ebay with all countries included, and more coming 2k$ seems to be the fair price those days. Definitely a significant drop in price from over $9k to $2k in a few weeks. I'll pay $1500 for one when someone is ready. |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by saint on Oct 6, 2017 16:46:10 GMT 1, This is a good question, and well phrased. He has released prints during the last few years. He has not however released prints to the general public in years. Perhaps this was to minimise flipping, and to stop the ludicrous behaviour we saw at the Choose Your Weapon release? I'm well aware of all those reasons, the question was directed at Murkke, I wanted to know what he thought the reason was.
Yes I know, I was commenting on it for the same reason. It then spiralled into a debate about economics so I retreated into my happy bubble where I seem to be almost alone in believing some artists have artistic morals and aren't all about the money.
This is a good question, and well phrased. He has released prints during the last few years. He has not however released prints to the general public in years. Perhaps this was to minimise flipping, and to stop the ludicrous behaviour we saw at the Choose Your Weapon release? I'm well aware of all those reasons, the question was directed at Murkke, I wanted to know what he thought the reason was. Yes I know, I was commenting on it for the same reason. It then spiralled into a debate about economics so I retreated into my happy bubble where I seem to be almost alone in believing some artists have artistic morals and aren't all about the money. |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Rouen Cathedral on Oct 6, 2017 17:05:28 GMT 1, This is a good question, and well phrased. He has released prints during the last few years. He has not however released prints to the general public in years. Perhaps this was to minimise flipping, and to stop the ludicrous behaviour we saw at the Choose Your Weapon release? I'm well aware of all those reasons, the question was directed at Murkke, I wanted to know what he thought the reason was.
Honestly I don’t know. I change my mind quite often.
I think it could be argued that it’s to avoid the mockery we see now with art being released and then flipped. But then again he just seemed to contradict that.
It could be that he wants to keep the market and prices high. This helps create buzz and hype all to which would be beneficial.
It could be that he doesn’t need to make money. He’s doing fine selling in private sales.
It could be that he finds making prints boring. Maybe he prefers large scale media. Maybe he’s against ‘street art’ becoming just like every other art phase. But then again selling private stuff contradicts this.
Maybe it’s that he could care less if his fans have a chance at a piece of his work. His fans still seem quite loyal and protective of an artist that doesn’t release art to them.
At this moment on time I think it’s a lot of price market protection for his works teamed with the fact that his fans are loyal despite releasing art.
This is a good question, and well phrased. He has released prints during the last few years. He has not however released prints to the general public in years. Perhaps this was to minimise flipping, and to stop the ludicrous behaviour we saw at the Choose Your Weapon release? I'm well aware of all those reasons, the question was directed at Murkke, I wanted to know what he thought the reason was. Honestly I don’t know. I change my mind quite often. I think it could be argued that it’s to avoid the mockery we see now with art being released and then flipped. But then again he just seemed to contradict that. It could be that he wants to keep the market and prices high. This helps create buzz and hype all to which would be beneficial. It could be that he doesn’t need to make money. He’s doing fine selling in private sales. It could be that he finds making prints boring. Maybe he prefers large scale media. Maybe he’s against ‘street art’ becoming just like every other art phase. But then again selling private stuff contradicts this. Maybe it’s that he could care less if his fans have a chance at a piece of his work. His fans still seem quite loyal and protective of an artist that doesn’t release art to them. At this moment on time I think it’s a lot of price market protection for his works teamed with the fact that his fans are loyal despite releasing art. |
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Unica
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Unica on Oct 6, 2017 17:44:04 GMT 1, I'm well aware of all those reasons, the question was directed at Murkke, I wanted to know what he thought the reason was. Yes I know, I was commenting on it for the same reason. It then spiralled into a debate about economics so I retreated into my happy bubble where I seem to be almost alone in believing some artists have artistic morals and aren't all about the money.
Seems like the majority of artists just sit in their massive studios knocking out canvases for the rich. Lets not forget this video, see any other artists working in Palestine?
I'm well aware of all those reasons, the question was directed at Murkke, I wanted to know what he thought the reason was. Yes I know, I was commenting on it for the same reason. It then spiralled into a debate about economics so I retreated into my happy bubble where I seem to be almost alone in believing some artists have artistic morals and aren't all about the money. I agree with you, if Banksy wanted he could partner up with someone and open a chain of hotels around the world like SoHo house and rake it in, he could also saturate the market with is art similar to Koons and Hirst. So anyone thinks he set up a hotel in Palestine to make money or somehow take advantage of people is a moron and i'm getting to the point now where I don't think I can be bothered to interact as it tiresome and annoying, the continual bashing of an artist who actually gets out in the world and does something to try and make improvements. My thoughts are the bashers are upset they didn't buy Banksy when they could, how many of them would be in line if Banksy did a £500 quid release, my bet is they would be queuing up for days. Seems like the majority of artists just sit in their massive studios knocking out canvases for the rich. Lets not forget this video, see any other artists working in Palestine? |
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Rouen Cathedral on Oct 6, 2017 17:51:23 GMT 1, Yes I know, I was commenting on it for the same reason. It then spiralled into a debate about economics so I retreated into my happy bubble where I seem to be almost alone in believing some artists have artistic morals and aren't all about the money. I agree with you, if Banksy wanted he could partner up with someone and open a chain of hotels around the world like SoHo house and rake it in, he could also saturate the market with is art similar to Koons and Hirst. So anyone thinks he set up a hotel in Palestine to make money or somehow take advantage of people is a moron and i'm getting to the point now where I don't think I can be bothered to interact as it tiresome and annoying, the continual bashing of an artist who actually gets out in the world and does something to try and make improvements. My thoughts are the bashers are upset they didn't buy Banksy when they could, how many of them would be in line if Banksy did a £500 quid release, my bet is they would be queuing up for days. Seems like the majority of artists just sit in their massive studios knocking out canvases for the rich. Lets not forget this video, see any other artists working in Palestine?
The good old. ‘You are just jealous you missed the boat insult’
How typical.
So as you bash other artists making art for the rich. How do you rationalize banksy doing that exact thing? Because he has the means to some large things with the intentions of promoting awareness?
In concept yes great! In reality not always great.
And just because someone states a critique it doesn’t make then a ‘hater who’s jealous they missed the boat’.
Yes I know, I was commenting on it for the same reason. It then spiralled into a debate about economics so I retreated into my happy bubble where I seem to be almost alone in believing some artists have artistic morals and aren't all about the money. I agree with you, if Banksy wanted he could partner up with someone and open a chain of hotels around the world like SoHo house and rake it in, he could also saturate the market with is art similar to Koons and Hirst. So anyone thinks he set up a hotel in Palestine to make money or somehow take advantage of people is a moron and i'm getting to the point now where I don't think I can be bothered to interact as it tiresome and annoying, the continual bashing of an artist who actually gets out in the world and does something to try and make improvements. My thoughts are the bashers are upset they didn't buy Banksy when they could, how many of them would be in line if Banksy did a £500 quid release, my bet is they would be queuing up for days. Seems like the majority of artists just sit in their massive studios knocking out canvases for the rich. Lets not forget this video, see any other artists working in Palestine? The good old. ‘You are just jealous you missed the boat insult’ How typical. So as you bash other artists making art for the rich. How do you rationalize banksy doing that exact thing? Because he has the means to some large things with the intentions of promoting awareness? In concept yes great! In reality not always great. And just because someone states a critique it doesn’t make then a ‘hater who’s jealous they missed the boat’. |
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.dappy
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by .dappy on Oct 6, 2017 19:46:44 GMT 1, ... still talking shït ...
... still talking shït ...
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Rouen Cathedral on Oct 6, 2017 20:34:58 GMT 1, ... still talking shït ...
Who knew I had a fan club. Should I make t shirts?
I hear glidden is a good company!
... still talking shït ... Who knew I had a fan club. Should I make t shirts? I hear glidden is a good company! |
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ahmad9910
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by ahmad9910 on Oct 6, 2017 21:09:59 GMT 1, Hello
Price 2000$
Hello
Price 2000$
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