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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by cyberkid on Nov 20, 2017 11:55:52 GMT 1, its crazy to pay "thousands" for this unlimited piece...
its crazy to pay "thousands" for this unlimited piece...
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by skAcid on Nov 20, 2017 12:32:42 GMT 1, Banksy doing a top job and at ensuring the secondary market for these gets lower and lower. Rare and limited these are not! I think we will see prices drop to around 500 by year end as the market continues to be saturated with the various incarnations of these box sets. Great news for buyers though, not so good for those who got mugged into paying thousands for them - ouch The first one i saw sold for over £7000. Then a few went for approx £5000. Then two weeks later down to £2000. Now two months later going under £1000. Yeah great news for buyers
Banksy doing a top job and at ensuring the secondary market for these gets lower and lower. Rare and limited these are not! I think we will see prices drop to around 500 by year end as the market continues to be saturated with the various incarnations of these box sets. Great news for buyers though, not so good for those who got mugged into paying thousands for them - ouch The first one i saw sold for over £7000. Then a few went for approx £5000. Then two weeks later down to £2000. Now two months later going under £1000. Yeah great news for buyers
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by shygetshigh83 on Nov 20, 2017 12:37:01 GMT 1, So what is the current market value for these?? 20% above retail? Or flippers are expecting 2000% above? I the price is decent do let me know I’m interested!
So what is the current market value for these?? 20% above retail? Or flippers are expecting 2000% above? I the price is decent do let me know I’m interested!
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Cookiemonster on Nov 20, 2017 12:38:43 GMT 1, its crazy to pay "thousands" for this unlimited piece... Its not unlimited, you should consider it like a timed release, because eventually the stock will dry up and wont be available from source. Its only "unlimited" in the sense of the number of them being made available via secondary!!!
There is however a bigger issue here, and that is the behaviour, and again by the usual suspects who likes**tting on peoples sales threads, in some c*ntish attempt to talk down prices to serve their own agenda.
I would like to see sales threads being locked with no comments permitted, and only the op can edit them. It will instantly remove a majority of the toxicity of this site.
its crazy to pay "thousands" for this unlimited piece... Its not unlimited, you should consider it like a timed release, because eventually the stock will dry up and wont be available from source. Its only "unlimited" in the sense of the number of them being made available via secondary!!! There is however a bigger issue here, and that is the behaviour, and again by the usual suspects who likes**tting on peoples sales threads, in some c*ntish attempt to talk down prices to serve their own agenda. I would like to see sales threads being locked with no comments permitted, and only the op can edit them. It will instantly remove a majority of the toxicity of this site.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 20, 2017 12:43:41 GMT 1, its crazy to pay "thousands" for this unlimited piece... Its not unlimited, you should consider it like a timed release, because eventually the stock will dry up and wont be available from source. Its only "unlimited" in the sense of the number of them being made available via secondary!!! There is however a bigger issue here, and that is the behaviour, and again by the usual suspects who likes**tting on peoples sales threads, in some c*ntish attempt to talk down prices to serve their own agenda. I would like to see sales threads being locked with no comments permitted, and only the op can edit them. It will instantly remove a majority of the toxicity of this site. Lol only toxicity coming here is you pal...
its crazy to pay "thousands" for this unlimited piece... Its not unlimited, you should consider it like a timed release, because eventually the stock will dry up and wont be available from source. Its only "unlimited" in the sense of the number of them being made available via secondary!!! There is however a bigger issue here, and that is the behaviour, and again by the usual suspects who likes**tting on peoples sales threads, in some c*ntish attempt to talk down prices to serve their own agenda. I would like to see sales threads being locked with no comments permitted, and only the op can edit them. It will instantly remove a majority of the toxicity of this site. Lol only toxicity coming here is you pal...
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Happy Shopper on Nov 20, 2017 12:47:52 GMT 1, Can't put my finger on why, maybe slight change in the shape of the rock and spray on it, but that looks a little iffy to me!
Can't put my finger on why, maybe slight change in the shape of the rock and spray on it, but that looks a little iffy to me!
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by NYart on Nov 20, 2017 12:47:59 GMT 1, Or it could be seen as a good thing so forum members aren’t being taken advantage of, paying large sums of money for something that is only limited in the sense you have to travel to get it.
Or it could be seen as a good thing so forum members aren’t being taken advantage of, paying large sums of money for something that is only limited in the sense you have to travel to get it.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 14:39:18 GMT 1, its crazy to pay "thousands" for this unlimited piece... Its not unlimited, you should consider it like a timed release, because eventually the stock will dry up and wont be available from source. Its only "unlimited" in the sense of the number of them being made available via secondary!!! There is however a bigger issue here, and that is the behaviour, and again by the usual suspects who likes**tting on peoples sales threads, in some c*ntish attempt to talk down prices to serve their own agenda. I would like to see sales threads being locked with no comments permitted, and only the op can edit them. It will instantly remove a majority of the toxicity of this site.
Wouldn’t be good, too many people trying to rip people off on here, so it’s good to be able to respond.
I don’t think it’s good people rock up here with no posts and try to flog shit, take it to ebay no post person
I would prefer no sales posts at all
Would save all this shit
its crazy to pay "thousands" for this unlimited piece... Its not unlimited, you should consider it like a timed release, because eventually the stock will dry up and wont be available from source. Its only "unlimited" in the sense of the number of them being made available via secondary!!! There is however a bigger issue here, and that is the behaviour, and again by the usual suspects who likes**tting on peoples sales threads, in some c*ntish attempt to talk down prices to serve their own agenda. I would like to see sales threads being locked with no comments permitted, and only the op can edit them. It will instantly remove a majority of the toxicity of this site. Wouldn’t be good, too many people trying to rip people off on here, so it’s good to be able to respond. I don’t think it’s good people rock up here with no posts and try to flog shit, take it to ebay no post person I would prefer no sales posts at all Would save all this shit
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 20, 2017 14:48:11 GMT 1, Its not unlimited, you should consider it like a timed release, because eventually the stock will dry up and wont be available from source. Its only "unlimited" in the sense of the number of them being made available via secondary!!! There is however a bigger issue here, and that is the behaviour, and again by the usual suspects who likes**tting on peoples sales threads, in some c*ntish attempt to talk down prices to serve their own agenda. I would like to see sales threads being locked with no comments permitted, and only the op can edit them. It will instantly remove a majority of the toxicity of this site. Wouldn’t be good, too many people trying to rip people off on here, so it’s good to be able to respond. I don’t think it’s good people rock up here with no posts and try to flogs**t, take it to ebay no post person I would prefer no sales posts at all Would save all thiss**t Couldn't agree more. Completely stopping any for sale element to the forum is the way to go!
Its not unlimited, you should consider it like a timed release, because eventually the stock will dry up and wont be available from source. Its only "unlimited" in the sense of the number of them being made available via secondary!!! There is however a bigger issue here, and that is the behaviour, and again by the usual suspects who likes**tting on peoples sales threads, in some c*ntish attempt to talk down prices to serve their own agenda. I would like to see sales threads being locked with no comments permitted, and only the op can edit them. It will instantly remove a majority of the toxicity of this site. Wouldn’t be good, too many people trying to rip people off on here, so it’s good to be able to respond. I don’t think it’s good people rock up here with no posts and try to flogs**t, take it to ebay no post person I would prefer no sales posts at all Would save all thiss**t Couldn't agree more. Completely stopping any for sale element to the forum is the way to go!
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Hubble Bubble on Nov 20, 2017 14:49:38 GMT 1, This whole Banksys**t in Israel is bollocks he would do more good trying to sort out problems in his own country , rather than getting involved in something that has nothing the f**kto do with him, and people cashing in on it. Palestine, not Israel.
This whole Banksys**t in Israel is bollocks he would do more good trying to sort out problems in his own country , rather than getting involved in something that has nothing the f**kto do with him, and people cashing in on it. Palestine, not Israel.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Cookiemonster on Nov 20, 2017 15:39:56 GMT 1, Wouldn’t be good, too many people trying to rip people off on here, so it’s good to be able to respond. I don’t think it’s good people rock up here with no posts and try to flogs**t, take it to ebay no post person I would prefer no sales posts at all Would save all thiss**t Couldn't agree more. Completely stopping any for sale element to the forum is the way to go! I didnt want to go to that extreme, but it is a valid point. However it shouldn't matter if the person has 1 post or 1000 post, its the reaction by those wiith 100's of posts that is more the issue, and it is usually the same people with the same axe to grind or agenda to push.
Wouldn’t be good, too many people trying to rip people off on here, so it’s good to be able to respond. I don’t think it’s good people rock up here with no posts and try to flogs**t, take it to ebay no post person I would prefer no sales posts at all Would save all thiss**t Couldn't agree more. Completely stopping any for sale element to the forum is the way to go! I didnt want to go to that extreme, but it is a valid point. However it shouldn't matter if the person has 1 post or 1000 post, its the reaction by those wiith 100's of posts that is more the issue, and it is usually the same people with the same axe to grind or agenda to push.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by freezy on Nov 20, 2017 15:48:48 GMT 1, I’m not sure I understand... If someone that either goes to the hotel or lives near it...buys a print and resells it for 8-10x the price... they get crucified on here.
Would these same critics expect someone who was lucky enough to win the sale ends lottery at POW be expected to pass it on at cost or face the same treatment?
I’m not sure I understand... If someone that either goes to the hotel or lives near it...buys a print and resells it for 8-10x the price... they get crucified on here.
Would these same critics expect someone who was lucky enough to win the sale ends lottery at POW be expected to pass it on at cost or face the same treatment?
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 20, 2017 16:19:47 GMT 1, I’m not sure I understand... If someone that either goes to the hotel or lives near it...buys a print and resells it for 8-10x the price... they get crucified on here. Would these same critics expect someone who was lucky enough to win the sale ends lottery at POW be expected to pass it on at cost or face the same treatment? essentially yes
I’m not sure I understand... If someone that either goes to the hotel or lives near it...buys a print and resells it for 8-10x the price... they get crucified on here. Would these same critics expect someone who was lucky enough to win the sale ends lottery at POW be expected to pass it on at cost or face the same treatment? essentially yes
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 20, 2017 16:21:37 GMT 1, Couldn't agree more. Completely stopping any for sale element to the forum is the way to go! I didnt want to go to that extreme, but it is a valid point. However it shouldn't matter if the person has 1 post or 1000 post, its the reaction by those wiith 100's of posts that is more the issue, and it is usually the same people with the same axe to grind or agenda to push. I don't know what others think but its the targeted attempt to get a premium from others that seems to annoy most folks to be honest.
Couldn't agree more. Completely stopping any for sale element to the forum is the way to go! I didnt want to go to that extreme, but it is a valid point. However it shouldn't matter if the person has 1 post or 1000 post, its the reaction by those wiith 100's of posts that is more the issue, and it is usually the same people with the same axe to grind or agenda to push. I don't know what others think but its the targeted attempt to get a premium from others that seems to annoy most folks to be honest.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Cookiemonster on Nov 20, 2017 17:39:43 GMT 1, I didnt want to go to that extreme, but it is a valid point. However it shouldn't matter if the person has 1 post or 1000 post, its the reaction by those wiith 100's of posts that is more the issue, and it is usually the same people with the same axe to grind or agenda to push. I don't know what others think but its the targeted attempt to get a premium from others that seems to annoy most folks to be honest. If people cannot show restraint or self control, then take up an anger management course or find another hobby that creates a better sense of zen, because the stampy feet, frothing at the mouth vitriol, all comes across as a bit childish.
I didnt want to go to that extreme, but it is a valid point. However it shouldn't matter if the person has 1 post or 1000 post, its the reaction by those wiith 100's of posts that is more the issue, and it is usually the same people with the same axe to grind or agenda to push. I don't know what others think but its the targeted attempt to get a premium from others that seems to annoy most folks to be honest. If people cannot show restraint or self control, then take up an anger management course or find another hobby that creates a better sense of zen, because the stampy feet, frothing at the mouth vitriol, all comes across as a bit childish.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Mr Janny on Nov 20, 2017 18:14:12 GMT 1, I feel bad for anyone that was dumb enough to donate. This won’t work boxsets are limited to one per resident. They stamp your resident card so there can’t be multiple purchases. Lmao
I feel bad for anyone that was dumb enough to donate. This won’t work boxsets are limited to one per resident. They stamp your resident card so there can’t be multiple purchases. Lmao
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 18:35:31 GMT 1, I feel bad for anyone that was dumb enough to donate. This won’t work boxsets are limited to one per resident. They stamp your resident card so there can’t be multiple purchases. Lmao
If anyone donated then this will b a good but expensive lesson to learn; unlikely to repeat this mistake.
I feel bad for anyone that was dumb enough to donate. This won’t work boxsets are limited to one per resident. They stamp your resident card so there can’t be multiple purchases. Lmao If anyone donated then this will b a good but expensive lesson to learn; unlikely to repeat this mistake.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 20, 2017 19:40:25 GMT 1, I don't know what others think but its the targeted attempt to get a premium from others that seems to annoy most folks to be honest. If people cannot show restraint or self control, then take up an anger management course or find another hobby that creates a better sense of zen, because the stampy feet, frothing at the mouth vitriol, all comes across as a bit childish. Or, more simply, ban all selling, as discussed above. Ebay is a good place to sell. A nice impersonal place for those that don't like the frothing at the mouth vitriol when they rip off others.
I don't know what others think but its the targeted attempt to get a premium from others that seems to annoy most folks to be honest. If people cannot show restraint or self control, then take up an anger management course or find another hobby that creates a better sense of zen, because the stampy feet, frothing at the mouth vitriol, all comes across as a bit childish. Or, more simply, ban all selling, as discussed above. Ebay is a good place to sell. A nice impersonal place for those that don't like the frothing at the mouth vitriol when they rip off others.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by helium on Nov 20, 2017 20:54:08 GMT 1, its crazy to pay "thousands" for this unlimited piece... Its not unlimited, you should consider it like a timed release, because eventually the stock will dry up and wont be available from source. Its only "unlimited" in the sense of the number of them being made available via secondary!!! There is however a bigger issue here, and that is the behaviour, and again by the usual suspects who likes**tting on peoples sales threads, in some c*ntish attempt to talk down prices to serve their own agenda. I would like to see sales threads being locked with no comments permitted, and only the op can edit them. It will instantly remove a majority of the toxicity of this site.
Mate I was just stating a fact I personally think it helps when people Say the price of something .. I know if I was going to pay £800 over the going rate I would hope someone on this site would help me and suggest a different source .. I certainly don't know the prices of a lot of thing and find it more than helpful when people suggest a seller is offering a good price or a bad one depending on what it is This isn't a peice that is rare so can't command a seller decides price But just my opinion man And yes I do want one When they are £500 I'll buy if they never are I won't
its crazy to pay "thousands" for this unlimited piece... Its not unlimited, you should consider it like a timed release, because eventually the stock will dry up and wont be available from source. Its only "unlimited" in the sense of the number of them being made available via secondary!!! There is however a bigger issue here, and that is the behaviour, and again by the usual suspects who likes**tting on peoples sales threads, in some c*ntish attempt to talk down prices to serve their own agenda. I would like to see sales threads being locked with no comments permitted, and only the op can edit them. It will instantly remove a majority of the toxicity of this site. Mate I was just stating a fact I personally think it helps when people Say the price of something .. I know if I was going to pay £800 over the going rate I would hope someone on this site would help me and suggest a different source .. I certainly don't know the prices of a lot of thing and find it more than helpful when people suggest a seller is offering a good price or a bad one depending on what it is This isn't a peice that is rare so can't command a seller decides price But just my opinion man And yes I do want one When they are £500 I'll buy if they never are I won't
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Patrick 01 on Nov 20, 2017 21:18:06 GMT 1, its crazy to pay "thousands" for this unlimited piece... Its not unlimited, you should consider it like a timed release, because eventually the stock will dry up and wont be available from source. Its only "unlimited" in the sense of the number of them being made available via secondary!!! There is however a bigger issue here, and that is the behaviour, and again by the usual suspects who likes**tting on peoples sales threads, in some c*ntish attempt to talk down prices to serve their own agenda. I would like to see sales threads being locked with no comments permitted, and only the op can edit them. It will instantly remove a majority of the toxicity of this site.
Well said! Too many arrogant and opinionated 'know it alls' piping up and generally being ignorant!
its crazy to pay "thousands" for this unlimited piece... Its not unlimited, you should consider it like a timed release, because eventually the stock will dry up and wont be available from source. Its only "unlimited" in the sense of the number of them being made available via secondary!!! There is however a bigger issue here, and that is the behaviour, and again by the usual suspects who likes**tting on peoples sales threads, in some c*ntish attempt to talk down prices to serve their own agenda. I would like to see sales threads being locked with no comments permitted, and only the op can edit them. It will instantly remove a majority of the toxicity of this site. Well said! Too many arrogant and opinionated 'know it alls' piping up and generally being ignorant!
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by arthoarder on Nov 20, 2017 21:38:35 GMT 1, every box set post is just all trolls
every box set post is just all trolls
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 22:07:01 GMT 1, Its not unlimited, you should consider it like a timed release, because eventually the stock will dry up and wont be available from source. Its only "unlimited" in the sense of the number of them being made available via secondary!!! There is however a bigger issue here, and that is the behaviour, and again by the usual suspects who likes**tting on peoples sales threads, in some c*ntish attempt to talk down prices to serve their own agenda. I would like to see sales threads being locked with no comments permitted, and only the op can edit them. It will instantly remove a majority of the toxicity of this site. Well said! Too many arrogant and opinionated 'know it alls' piping up and generally being ignorant!
I think this site has been split in 2 types, collectors and profiteers.
Profiteers find something the collector wants and sources it better than the collector can
And these box sets i think are pissing pretty much everyone off at the moment, fast forward a year or so and we'll all be bitching about something else and the boxsets will be on collectors walls.
There is too much supply right now, take this profiteer with 5 of them, good luck to him for having them, and if he was selling for market price i don't think this thread would have been derailed as badly as it is now.
Where is the logic in him trying to sell something on here at 50% higher than ebay prices?
Its a bit of a piss take really, and i for one don't have a an issue with it being commented on as such.
However I don't agree with talking down prints or whatever without £ facts to back them up.
There is a lot of help on here for people who want to sell stuff, but ebay is better if people don't want criticism constructive or destructive.
it is a forum and forums should be about a community of people sharing their interests without being taken the piss out of
Its not unlimited, you should consider it like a timed release, because eventually the stock will dry up and wont be available from source. Its only "unlimited" in the sense of the number of them being made available via secondary!!! There is however a bigger issue here, and that is the behaviour, and again by the usual suspects who likes**tting on peoples sales threads, in some c*ntish attempt to talk down prices to serve their own agenda. I would like to see sales threads being locked with no comments permitted, and only the op can edit them. It will instantly remove a majority of the toxicity of this site. Well said! Too many arrogant and opinionated 'know it alls' piping up and generally being ignorant! I think this site has been split in 2 types, collectors and profiteers. Profiteers find something the collector wants and sources it better than the collector can And these box sets i think are pissing pretty much everyone off at the moment, fast forward a year or so and we'll all be bitching about something else and the boxsets will be on collectors walls. There is too much supply right now, take this profiteer with 5 of them, good luck to him for having them, and if he was selling for market price i don't think this thread would have been derailed as badly as it is now. Where is the logic in him trying to sell something on here at 50% higher than ebay prices? Its a bit of a piss take really, and i for one don't have a an issue with it being commented on as such. However I don't agree with talking down prints or whatever without £ facts to back them up. There is a lot of help on here for people who want to sell stuff, but ebay is better if people don't want criticism constructive or destructive. it is a forum and forums should be about a community of people sharing their interests without being taken the piss out of
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by tab1 on Nov 21, 2017 0:44:49 GMT 1, This whole Banksys**t in Israel is bollocks he would do more good trying to sort out problems in his own country , rather than getting involved in something that has nothing the f**kto do with him, and people cashing in on it. Palestine, not Israel.
One more land grab and the hotel will be in isreal
This whole Banksys**t in Israel is bollocks he would do more good trying to sort out problems in his own country , rather than getting involved in something that has nothing the f**kto do with him, and people cashing in on it. Palestine, not Israel. One more land grab and the hotel will be in isreal
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by artfan99 on Nov 21, 2017 2:22:26 GMT 1, Can't put my finger on why, maybe slight change in the shape of the rock and spray on it, but that looks a little iffy to me!
I'm interested to hear thoughts on this too. I posted a question on the hotel thread about the concrete part and just not sure if they're all concrete in the boxes or just some, and some like drywall or plaster.? They still all look very nice though
Can't put my finger on why, maybe slight change in the shape of the rock and spray on it, but that looks a little iffy to me! I'm interested to hear thoughts on this too. I posted a question on the hotel thread about the concrete part and just not sure if they're all concrete in the boxes or just some, and some like drywall or plaster.? They still all look very nice though
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by casinomancollector on Nov 21, 2017 3:31:19 GMT 1, I feel bad for anyone that was dumb enough to donate. This won’t work boxsets are limited to one per resident. They stamp your resident card so there can’t be multiple purchases. Lmao If anyone donated then this will b a good but expensive lesson to learn; unlikely to repeat this mistake.
Who said I would be traveling alone? Maybe I will be meeting multiple people there and we will all be staying? This is not a scam, not a pyramid, not fake, not stupid. This is a fantastic opportunity to own a terrific piece of art at a reasonable price, and a story to tell to boot! Thank you all for your support. We are happy to offer this to everyone! We are also on indiegogo.com :
I feel bad for anyone that was dumb enough to donate. This won’t work boxsets are limited to one per resident. They stamp your resident card so there can’t be multiple purchases. Lmao If anyone donated then this will b a good but expensive lesson to learn; unlikely to repeat this mistake. Who said I would be traveling alone? Maybe I will be meeting multiple people there and we will all be staying? This is not a scam, not a pyramid, not fake, not stupid. This is a fantastic opportunity to own a terrific piece of art at a reasonable price, and a story to tell to boot! Thank you all for your support. We are happy to offer this to everyone! We are also on indiegogo.com :
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by rockbeer on Nov 21, 2017 6:06:23 GMT 1, I don't like this.
For one thing, you cannot guarantee the future price of box sets, as you claim. All sorts of unpredictable factors could undermine the value.
For another, unless you have an undeclared source of unlimited box sets then you have a problem with the maths. Your campaign is looking for $15,000 - say you collected that in minimum chunks of $800, you would need 19 box sets (including the one you want to keep for yourself) to fulfil your promise. I don't care what you say above, there is something dodgy going on if you are certain you can go to Bethlehem for a few days and come home with 19 box sets. And if you're not sure then you're simply making a personal guarantee you know you can't keep.
For a third, even if you could get your hands on the 19 box sets, the maths suggest this is nothing but a cynical rip-off of your contributors. I haven't checked the price of a trip to Palestine from the USA, but let's say it would set you back $3,000. Each box set will cost you another $150, so that's also $3,000 or so. Chuck in another $1,000 for expenses and I see you're trying to screw your contributors for an 8k profit. Pretty disingenuous of you not to mention that you don't just want them to buy you a Banksy but to pay your rent for six months too.
On the plus side, I'm reassured to see that contributions are still at zero.
I don't like this.
For one thing, you cannot guarantee the future price of box sets, as you claim. All sorts of unpredictable factors could undermine the value.
For another, unless you have an undeclared source of unlimited box sets then you have a problem with the maths. Your campaign is looking for $15,000 - say you collected that in minimum chunks of $800, you would need 19 box sets (including the one you want to keep for yourself) to fulfil your promise. I don't care what you say above, there is something dodgy going on if you are certain you can go to Bethlehem for a few days and come home with 19 box sets. And if you're not sure then you're simply making a personal guarantee you know you can't keep.
For a third, even if you could get your hands on the 19 box sets, the maths suggest this is nothing but a cynical rip-off of your contributors. I haven't checked the price of a trip to Palestine from the USA, but let's say it would set you back $3,000. Each box set will cost you another $150, so that's also $3,000 or so. Chuck in another $1,000 for expenses and I see you're trying to screw your contributors for an 8k profit. Pretty disingenuous of you not to mention that you don't just want them to buy you a Banksy but to pay your rent for six months too.
On the plus side, I'm reassured to see that contributions are still at zero.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Carl Cashman on Nov 21, 2017 8:13:05 GMT 1, I don't like this. For one thing, you cannot guarantee the future price of box sets, as you claim. All sorts of unpredictable factors could undermine the value. For another, unless you have an undeclared source of unlimited box sets then you have a problem with the maths. Your campaign is looking for $15,000 - say you collected that in minimum chunks of $800, you would need 19 box sets (including the one you want to keep for yourself) to fulfil your promise. I don't care what you say above, there is something dodgy going on if you are certain you can go to Bethlehem for a few days and come home with 19 box sets. And if you're not sure then you're simply making a personal guarantee you know you can't keep. For a third, even if you could get your hands on the 19 box sets, the maths suggest this is nothing but a cynical rip-off of your contributors. I haven't checked the price of a trip to Palestine from the USA, but let's say it would set you back $3,000. Each box set will cost you another $150, so that's also $3,000 or so. Chuck in another $1,000 for expenses and I see you're trying to screw your contributors for an 8k profit. Pretty disingenuous of you not to mention that you don't just want them to buy you a Banksy but to pay your rent for six months too. On the plus side, I'm reassured to see that contributions are still at zero. Tbh nobody can be pissed off for a profit, its a trip lots dont want to do. Its just a plan that wont work due to the logistics of it being 1 per person.
I don't like this. For one thing, you cannot guarantee the future price of box sets, as you claim. All sorts of unpredictable factors could undermine the value. For another, unless you have an undeclared source of unlimited box sets then you have a problem with the maths. Your campaign is looking for $15,000 - say you collected that in minimum chunks of $800, you would need 19 box sets (including the one you want to keep for yourself) to fulfil your promise. I don't care what you say above, there is something dodgy going on if you are certain you can go to Bethlehem for a few days and come home with 19 box sets. And if you're not sure then you're simply making a personal guarantee you know you can't keep. For a third, even if you could get your hands on the 19 box sets, the maths suggest this is nothing but a cynical rip-off of your contributors. I haven't checked the price of a trip to Palestine from the USA, but let's say it would set you back $3,000. Each box set will cost you another $150, so that's also $3,000 or so. Chuck in another $1,000 for expenses and I see you're trying to screw your contributors for an 8k profit. Pretty disingenuous of you not to mention that you don't just want them to buy you a Banksy but to pay your rent for six months too. On the plus side, I'm reassured to see that contributions are still at zero. Tbh nobody can be pissed off for a profit, its a trip lots dont want to do. Its just a plan that wont work due to the logistics of it being 1 per person.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by bjoern on Nov 21, 2017 8:53:55 GMT 1, Won't work. It's on per Person and they identify you with your resident idea.
Won't work. It's on per Person and they identify you with your resident idea.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Cookiemonster on Nov 21, 2017 10:25:47 GMT 1, Well said! Too many arrogant and opinionated 'know it alls' piping up and generally being ignorant! I think this site has been split in 2 types, collectors and profiteers. Profiteers find something the collector wants and sources it better than the collector can And these box sets i think are pissing pretty much everyone off at the moment, fast forward a year or so and we'll all be bitching about something else and the boxsets will be on collectors walls. There is too much supply right now, take this profiteer with 5 of them, good luck to him for having them, and if he was selling for market price i don't think this thread would have been derailed as badly as it is now. Where is the logic in him trying to sell something on here at 50% higher than ebay prices? Its a bit of a piss take really, and i for one don't have a an issue with it being commented on as such. However I don't agree with talking down prints or whatever without £ facts to back them up. There is a lot of help on here for people who want to sell stuff, but ebay is better if people don't want criticism constructive or destructive. it is a forum and forums should be about a community of people sharing their interests without being taken the piss out of I hear what you are saying Bren, but from what I am seeing is, these so called "collectors", are acting like reverse profiteers where they make negative or aggressive comments to drive prices down, in an attempt to grab a piece at bargain price. You see it now where most threads turn in to a shower ofs**t.
No one is putting a gun to someone's head with their prices, if the price point doesnt work, then either try to negotiate a price that does work with the seller or dont buy it and move on. I also find it hypocritical that the same people who tell a seller to "f*ck off to ebay", will cite ebay prices to push their agenda.
Yes it is a forum and it should be about a community spirit, irrespective to how long or how many posts a member has, however when you have long standing members who regularly s**ts on peoples for sale threads, then alas the tone is set and its pretty much carte blanche for others to wade in, to the point where the community turns in to a mob.
There is a far more simpler solution to those who feel so offended by others who are selling one of these, and that is to go get one or 5 themselves. It all smacks of hyprocisy and jealousy in my eyes.
Well said! Too many arrogant and opinionated 'know it alls' piping up and generally being ignorant! I think this site has been split in 2 types, collectors and profiteers. Profiteers find something the collector wants and sources it better than the collector can And these box sets i think are pissing pretty much everyone off at the moment, fast forward a year or so and we'll all be bitching about something else and the boxsets will be on collectors walls. There is too much supply right now, take this profiteer with 5 of them, good luck to him for having them, and if he was selling for market price i don't think this thread would have been derailed as badly as it is now. Where is the logic in him trying to sell something on here at 50% higher than ebay prices? Its a bit of a piss take really, and i for one don't have a an issue with it being commented on as such. However I don't agree with talking down prints or whatever without £ facts to back them up. There is a lot of help on here for people who want to sell stuff, but ebay is better if people don't want criticism constructive or destructive. it is a forum and forums should be about a community of people sharing their interests without being taken the piss out of I hear what you are saying Bren, but from what I am seeing is, these so called "collectors", are acting like reverse profiteers where they make negative or aggressive comments to drive prices down, in an attempt to grab a piece at bargain price. You see it now where most threads turn in to a shower ofs**t. No one is putting a gun to someone's head with their prices, if the price point doesnt work, then either try to negotiate a price that does work with the seller or dont buy it and move on. I also find it hypocritical that the same people who tell a seller to "f*ck off to ebay", will cite ebay prices to push their agenda. Yes it is a forum and it should be about a community spirit, irrespective to how long or how many posts a member has, however when you have long standing members who regularly s**ts on peoples for sale threads, then alas the tone is set and its pretty much carte blanche for others to wade in, to the point where the community turns in to a mob. There is a far more simpler solution to those who feel so offended by others who are selling one of these, and that is to go get one or 5 themselves. It all smacks of hyprocisy and jealousy in my eyes.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by rockbeer on Nov 21, 2017 10:27:10 GMT 1, Tbh nobody can be pissed off for a profit, its a trip lots dont want to do. Its just a plan that wont work due to the logistics of it being 1 per person.
It's not the profit that pisses me off, it's the disingenuousness of the presentation, trying to disguise a transparent profit-making venture as some kind of altruistic endeavour.
As well as being a plan that won't work, it's also, effectively, robbery.
Tbh nobody can be pissed off for a profit, its a trip lots dont want to do. Its just a plan that wont work due to the logistics of it being 1 per person. It's not the profit that pisses me off, it's the disingenuousness of the presentation, trying to disguise a transparent profit-making venture as some kind of altruistic endeavour. As well as being a plan that won't work, it's also, effectively, robbery.
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