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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by irl1 on May 15, 2018 16:19:57 GMT 1, Protests being held all around Ireland tonight
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by tab1 on May 16, 2018 1:53:35 GMT 1, Itโs going to be chaos there , all the conflicts in neighbouring countries , isreal bombing Iran and Syrian sites secretly , could be hard times ahead . At least all these happenings canโt be censored now by the media as of the internet.
Itโs going to be chaos there , all the conflicts in neighbouring countries , isreal bombing Iran and Syrian sites secretly , could be hard times ahead . At least all these happenings canโt be censored now by the media as of the internet.
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by theblank on May 18, 2018 12:47:02 GMT 1, So I returned mine and got my money back as per pay pal. So far there were at least 3 of us here that got identical boxes from eBay (same seller). Identical rock pieces and receipts.
So I returned mine and got my money back as per pay pal. So far there were at least 3 of us here that got identical boxes from eBay (same seller). Identical rock pieces and receipts.
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by skAcid on May 18, 2018 12:59:51 GMT 1, So I returned mine and got my money back as per pay pal. So far there were at least 3 of us here that got identical boxes from eBay (same seller). Identical rock pieces and receipts. You should leave some negative feedback to warn other buyers
So I returned mine and got my money back as per pay pal. So far there were at least 3 of us here that got identical boxes from eBay (same seller). Identical rock pieces and receipts. You should leave some negative feedback to warn other buyers
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by HRE on May 18, 2018 13:18:25 GMT 1, So is the seller, casting his own stone printing the image and putting it in a bought Ikea frame?
So is the seller, casting his own stone printing the image and putting it in a bought Ikea frame?
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by skAcid on May 18, 2018 13:29:05 GMT 1, So is the seller, casting his own stone printing the image and putting it in a bought Ikea frame? Looks like it. Biggest outlay is prob the ยฃ3.95 frame. Scumbag
So is the seller, casting his own stone printing the image and putting it in a bought Ikea frame? Looks like it. Biggest outlay is prob the ยฃ3.95 frame. Scumbag
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by irl1 on May 18, 2018 19:31:14 GMT 1, So I returned mine and got my money back as per pay pal. So far there were at least 3 of us here that got identical boxes from eBay (same seller). Identical rock pieces and receipts. If hes selling these on ebay you can bet hes sending them to auction houses too. A lot of auctioneers would not be used to the receipts or the prints, so it would be easy for him to consign them. I would imagine hes using the same hotel invoice as well. I see them going in auction from about 750 to over 2,000. If anyone here is bidding on a box set in auction i would check the receipt and stone from this thread before you bid.
So I returned mine and got my money back as per pay pal. So far there were at least 3 of us here that got identical boxes from eBay (same seller). Identical rock pieces and receipts. If hes selling these on ebay you can bet hes sending them to auction houses too. A lot of auctioneers would not be used to the receipts or the prints, so it would be easy for him to consign them. I would imagine hes using the same hotel invoice as well. I see them going in auction from about 750 to over 2,000. If anyone here is bidding on a box set in auction i would check the receipt and stone from this thread before you bid.
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theblank
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by theblank on May 22, 2018 15:23:51 GMT 1, I'm far from an expert but the "sanded" smooth areas could be from a mold that's either badly maintained or left uncleaned, resulting in worn areas or build-up in the mold that creates smooth areas in the pulls. This doesn't necessarily mean that it's fake, however, original molds wear out eventually too. But smooth spots can also be from a second-generation mold made from a original pull instead of from a master sculpt, which would result in lessened/dulled details, and which is a little more suspect. I've been following this with interest though, because I almost bought one of these from the same seller. But got suspicous because: 1. The seller seemed to have an endless supply of box sets, he's sold at least 9 so far and has 2 more currently listed; 2. The seller only sells "1st Edition" box sets in the Ikea frames, even now, 5-6 months after they stopped making 'em. I'm pretty sure that Banksy & Co really switched to "locally made frames" because they realized how much easier it would be to fake these if you could just go to Ikea and buy a gross of these things at ten bones a pop. 3. I'm in the same city (Los Angeles) as the seller, but he adamantly refuses to meet in person for purchase or pick-up. Any one or even two of those would probably be okay (after all, I've refused to meet in person for sales before) but all three together seemed like a red flag. I'd really really like this to be a legitimate seller, though, because if he is then he's maybe the last source for the original Ikea-framed box sets. theblank, I'm curious: when you received the box set, was it sent from a person with a real name and an actual address, or from a company name and a P.O. box? Can I ask, how do you know its the same seller as OP purchased from? Is it this guy? ( edited -deleted ebay listing) the seller was bonjour_atelier
all the people I spoke to about the situation confirmed it was the same seller, same reciept, same stone.
Here are a couple side by side, these are from different auctions. All having the ikea version of the frame.
irl1 Thanks for your input.
I'm far from an expert but the "sanded" smooth areas could be from a mold that's either badly maintained or left uncleaned, resulting in worn areas or build-up in the mold that creates smooth areas in the pulls. This doesn't necessarily mean that it's fake, however, original molds wear out eventually too. But smooth spots can also be from a second-generation mold made from a original pull instead of from a master sculpt, which would result in lessened/dulled details, and which is a little more suspect. I've been following this with interest though, because I almost bought one of these from the same seller. But got suspicous because: 1. The seller seemed to have an endless supply of box sets, he's sold at least 9 so far and has 2 more currently listed; 2. The seller only sells "1st Edition" box sets in the Ikea frames, even now, 5-6 months after they stopped making 'em. I'm pretty sure that Banksy & Co really switched to "locally made frames" because they realized how much easier it would be to fake these if you could just go to Ikea and buy a gross of these things at ten bones a pop. 3. I'm in the same city (Los Angeles) as the seller, but he adamantly refuses to meet in person for purchase or pick-up. Any one or even two of those would probably be okay (after all, I've refused to meet in person for sales before) but all three together seemed like a red flag. I'd really really like this to be a legitimate seller, though, because if he is then he's maybe the last source for the original Ikea-framed box sets. theblank, I'm curious: when you received the box set, was it sent from a person with a real name and an actual address, or from a company name and a P.O. box? Can I ask, how do you know its the same seller as OP purchased from? Is it this guy? ( edited -deleted ebay listing) the seller was bonjour_atelier all the people I spoke to about the situation confirmed it was the same seller, same reciept, same stone. Here are a couple side by side, these are from different auctions. All having the ikea version of the frame. irl1 Thanks for your input.
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by theblank on May 22, 2018 15:38:41 GMT 1, So is the seller, casting his own stone printing the image and putting it in a bought Ikea frame? That appears to be the situation.
I would mention the quality of the print is actually very nice in person- decent paper stock, good resolution, the size looks correct. Some amount of effort was used to reproduce the image. Which was definitely scary. Oddly much less effort was spent on the stone.
I feel like as a community it would behoove us to try and document the box sets so as to at least provide some way to be a little more comfortable purchasing them outside of hotel itself. With the prevalence of fake kaws figures showing up in auctions these days I feel like our faith in the "experts" is unfounded and provides an avenue for collectors to be defrauded and the market to suffer. I won't deny that this is a risk in any market but I feel like urban art is uniquely at risk as it attracts newer, younger collectors than other genres.
I've had an excellent experience at UA since I started collecting and have learned quite a bit in my short time. I feel like the wealth of knowledge this community possesses could lead to an interesting opportunity, to document the historic nuances of an art movement while it's still quite young.
I'd be interested in contributing and helping in whatever way I can if anyone (everyone?) else would be interested in such a project.
So is the seller, casting his own stone printing the image and putting it in a bought Ikea frame? That appears to be the situation. I would mention the quality of the print is actually very nice in person- decent paper stock, good resolution, the size looks correct. Some amount of effort was used to reproduce the image. Which was definitely scary. Oddly much less effort was spent on the stone. I feel like as a community it would behoove us to try and document the box sets so as to at least provide some way to be a little more comfortable purchasing them outside of hotel itself. With the prevalence of fake kaws figures showing up in auctions these days I feel like our faith in the "experts" is unfounded and provides an avenue for collectors to be defrauded and the market to suffer. I won't deny that this is a risk in any market but I feel like urban art is uniquely at risk as it attracts newer, younger collectors than other genres. I've had an excellent experience at UA since I started collecting and have learned quite a bit in my short time. I feel like the wealth of knowledge this community possesses could lead to an interesting opportunity, to document the historic nuances of an art movement while it's still quite young. I'd be interested in contributing and helping in whatever way I can if anyone (everyone?) else would be interested in such a project.
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irl1
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by irl1 on May 22, 2018 16:30:28 GMT 1, There seems to be box sets now in most Urban Art auctions. ebay seems to have gone quite with them as they just don't make the money there. I would imagine their sending the fakes to auction around the world for better prices. The likes of catawiki auctions have two box sets and two wall sections in every week now since last year. I'm not saying they are fakes but its an auction house you don't have to ship to them, you just ship to the buyer after the sale. The auction house never have your item in their hand to check, so wide open for fakes. Great idea you have there but not sure what way you could go with it, and you would need big funds for that.
There seems to be box sets now in most Urban Art auctions. ebay seems to have gone quite with them as they just don't make the money there. I would imagine their sending the fakes to auction around the world for better prices. The likes of catawiki auctions have two box sets and two wall sections in every week now since last year. I'm not saying they are fakes but its an auction house you don't have to ship to them, you just ship to the buyer after the sale. The auction house never have your item in their hand to check, so wide open for fakes. Great idea you have there but not sure what way you could go with it, and you would need big funds for that.
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by ahmad9910 on Jun 1, 2018 21:38:09 GMT 1, walls and the Box Set Still available Whatsapp: 00972599216161 Email : ahbaar@yahoo.com
walls and the Box Set Still available Whatsapp: 00972599216161 Email : ahbaar@yahoo.com
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Baby Dave on Jun 1, 2018 21:39:10 GMT 1, walls and the Box Set Still available Whatsapp: 00972599216161 Email : ahbaar@yahoo.com
How much?
walls and the Box Set Still available Whatsapp: 00972599216161 Email : ahbaar@yahoo.com How much?
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 21:41:04 GMT 1, walls and the Box Set Still available Whatsapp: 00972599216161 Email : ahbaar@yahoo.com How much?
More like how many....
walls and the Box Set Still available Whatsapp: 00972599216161 Email : ahbaar@yahoo.com How much? More like how many....
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by ahmad9910 on Jun 1, 2018 21:45:22 GMT 1, walls and the Box Set Still available Whatsapp: 00972599216161 Email : ahbaar@yahoo.com How much? Contact me I will provide you with prices where they vary from one piece to another
walls and the Box Set Still available Whatsapp: 00972599216161 Email : ahbaar@yahoo.com How much? Contact me I will provide you with prices where they vary from one piece to another
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by ahmad9910 on Jun 4, 2018 8:56:27 GMT 1, Box Set 500$ local style with receipt Box set IKEA First edition >Broken Stone Concrete 300$ with first edition receipt Whatsapp: 00972599216161 Email : ahbaar@yahoo.com
Box Set 500$ local style with receipt Box set IKEA First edition >Broken Stone Concrete 300$ with first edition receipt Whatsapp: 00972599216161 Email : ahbaar@yahoo.com
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by goremetchef on Jun 4, 2018 13:55:35 GMT 1, I bought a couple box sets from ahmad recently and confirm they're genuine and shipped and packed them like a pro
I bought a couple box sets from ahmad recently and confirm they're genuine and shipped and packed them like a pro
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Jun 4, 2018 14:01:15 GMT 1, I bought a couple box sets from ahmad recently and confirm they're genuine and shipped and packed them like a pro Welcome to the forum.
Thatโs an interesting first post. Why not tell us a bit about yourself. What kind of art are you into etc.? I think there might even be an intro thread knocking around somewhere.
I bought a couple box sets from ahmad recently and confirm they're genuine and shipped and packed them like a pro Welcome to the forum. Thatโs an interesting first post. Why not tell us a bit about yourself. What kind of art are you into etc.? I think there might even be an intro thread knocking around somewhere.
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Jun 4, 2018 14:05:20 GMT 1, I bought a couple box sets from ahmad recently and confirm they're genuine and shipped and packed them like a pro
That's nice.
I bought a couple box sets from ahmad recently and confirm they're genuine and shipped and packed them like a pro That's nice.
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Emile on Jun 4, 2018 14:20:46 GMT 1, I bought a couple box sets from ahmad recently and confirm they're genuine and shipped and packed them like a pro
lol
I bought a couple box sets from ahmad recently and confirm they're genuine and shipped and packed them like a pro lol
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by sugar72 on Jun 4, 2018 18:05:50 GMT 1, I bought a couple box sets from ahmad recently and confirm they're genuine and shipped and packed them like a pro
Hey Ahmad is that you!!??
I bought a couple box sets from ahmad recently and confirm they're genuine and shipped and packed them like a pro Hey Ahmad is that you!!??
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by ahmad9910 on Jun 4, 2018 21:07:29 GMT 1, I bought a couple box sets from ahmad recently and confirm they're genuine and shipped and packed them like a pro Hey Ahmad is that you!!?? of course not . I do not need to do that
I bought a couple box sets from ahmad recently and confirm they're genuine and shipped and packed them like a pro Hey Ahmad is that you!!?? of course not . I do not need to do that
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Masong on Jun 4, 2018 21:09:44 GMT 1, Hey Ahmad is that you!!?? of course not . I do not need to do that
I believe it was a joke
Hey Ahmad is that you!!?? of course not . I do not need to do that I believe it was a joke
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by .dappy on Jun 4, 2018 21:12:19 GMT 1, I bought a couple box sets from ahmad recently and confirm they're genuine and shipped and packed them like a pro urbanartassociation.com/thread/129460/introduce-thread?page=35
... tell us about yourself, what art you like ... where you're based ... how you got into the scene ... Welcome!
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Jun 4, 2018 21:22:32 GMT 1,
He likes boxsets.
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Limited Prints on Jun 4, 2018 22:27:02 GMT 1, Can anyone explain the differences in the sets. Why are some numbered and some not? some of the Invoices/"COAs" have matching numbers and some dont. some have a raised stamp and some dont. most all have the red stamp. Any input on all this would be great. would like to pick one up and looks like i should be able to have one delivered to my place for around $400 U.S. Thanks again guys long time since my last post. looking to offload a few pieces and potentially get a banksy one day.
Can anyone explain the differences in the sets. Why are some numbered and some not? some of the Invoices/"COAs" have matching numbers and some dont. some have a raised stamp and some dont. most all have the red stamp. Any input on all this would be great. would like to pick one up and looks like i should be able to have one delivered to my place for around $400 U.S. Thanks again guys long time since my last post. looking to offload a few pieces and potentially get a banksy one day.
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by begs on Jun 5, 2018 21:00:49 GMT 1, Can you buy these direct your self and get them delivered !
Can you buy these direct your self and get them delivered !
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by ahmad9910 on Jun 5, 2018 21:10:26 GMT 1, Can anyone explain the differences in the sets. Why are some numbered and some not? some of the Invoices/"COAs" have matching numbers and some dont. some have a raised stamp and some dont. most all have the red stamp. Any input on all this would be great. would like to pick one up and looks like i should be able to have one delivered to my place for around $400 U.S. Thanks again guys long time since my last post. looking to offload a few pieces and potentially get a banksy one day. Hello
The differences in the receipts were to prevent counterfeiting by the hotel
Now the receipt contains a code for each piece and red stamp and raised stamp
Can anyone explain the differences in the sets. Why are some numbered and some not? some of the Invoices/"COAs" have matching numbers and some dont. some have a raised stamp and some dont. most all have the red stamp. Any input on all this would be great. would like to pick one up and looks like i should be able to have one delivered to my place for around $400 U.S. Thanks again guys long time since my last post. looking to offload a few pieces and potentially get a banksy one day. Hello The differences in the receipts were to prevent counterfeiting by the hotel Now the receipt contains a code for each piece and red stamp and raised stamp
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Masong on Jun 5, 2018 21:16:13 GMT 1, Can anyone explain the differences in the sets. Why are some numbered and some not? some of the Invoices/"COAs" have matching numbers and some dont. some have a raised stamp and some dont. most all have the red stamp. Any input on all this would be great. would like to pick one up and looks like i should be able to have one delivered to my place for around $400 U.S. Thanks again guys long time since my last post. looking to offload a few pieces and potentially get a banksy one day. Hello The differences in the receipts were to prevent counterfeiting by the hotel Now the receipt contains a code for each piece and red stamp and raised stamp
So are you saying the hotel itself was selling copies?
Can anyone explain the differences in the sets. Why are some numbered and some not? some of the Invoices/"COAs" have matching numbers and some dont. some have a raised stamp and some dont. most all have the red stamp. Any input on all this would be great. would like to pick one up and looks like i should be able to have one delivered to my place for around $400 U.S. Thanks again guys long time since my last post. looking to offload a few pieces and potentially get a banksy one day. Hello The differences in the receipts were to prevent counterfeiting by the hotel Now the receipt contains a code for each piece and red stamp and raised stamp So are you saying the hotel itself was selling copies?
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Limited Prints on Jun 6, 2018 22:39:49 GMT 1, Hello The differences in the receipts were to prevent counterfeiting by the hotel Now the receipt contains a code for each piece and red stamp and raised stamp So are you saying the hotel itself was selling copies? No, Ebay.
Hello The differences in the receipts were to prevent counterfeiting by the hotel Now the receipt contains a code for each piece and red stamp and raised stamp So are you saying the hotel itself was selling copies? No, Ebay.
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