telecine
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by telecine on Jun 17, 2018 15:41:12 GMT 1, This thread was about box sets being flogged at stupid prices by some Palestinian dude.
The evolved discussion about Israel behaving like a bunch of people that think that due to God’s choice, they are the chosen ones and therefore can behave like a bunch of c**ts and are untouchable surely merits its own thread ?
This thread was about box sets being flogged at stupid prices by some Palestinian dude.
The evolved discussion about Israel behaving like a bunch of people that think that due to God’s choice, they are the chosen ones and therefore can behave like a bunch of c**ts and are untouchable surely merits its own thread ?
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swissmade
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by swissmade on Jun 17, 2018 20:09:15 GMT 1, met I have to say your arrogance and unbridled conceit made me chuckle. I am not going to pick apart your argument I don’t have the time or the desire but… You say you “try to avoid engaging with forum members …. who seem too close-minded to contemplate alternative perspectives” you also say “I make regular efforts to argue against myself”. Well, if former is true I suggest you avoid the latter. If you had spent as much time looking up South Africa’s transition from an apartheid pariah state to what it is today, as you did sitting at your keyboard pontificating your intellect and superior intelligence you might have realised my point. That which you suggest in your argument cannot work did work in bringing South Africa in from the cold – including art and sports boycotts. There were people at the time who said sanctions and boycotts cannot and will not work – in the end it was those very sanctions and boycotts that did. You're argument at the end of the day is not to take any action against Israel because, well there are other bad guys in the world too. That to me is a coward's attitude. Have a nice day. To be clear, I don't expect you to pick apart my argument if you haven't the time or desire. [This forum hosts a very rich variety of art enthusiasts and opinions. Nevertheless, there's still one assertion each of us can probably agree on: It's much easier (and faster) to attack the person presenting an argument than it is to go after the argument itself.]All I ask from your side is good faith. Does that request sound fair and reasonable? Of course what good faith requires is the intellectual honesty referred to earlier. This includes not trying to cloud an issue or shift the focus of a specific discussion, and not ducking awkward questions. __________ Assuming your hope is that the art world "boycotts anything Israeli", then we differ on this particular point. If that's correct, I'll repeat my original questions: 1. Would you also be comfortable publicly calling upon everyone in the art world to boycott anything, say, Chinese? 2. What are your thoughts and proposals regarding (a) people travelling to or via Israel; (b) the stance to be taken towards Israeli creatives and their artwork; (c) and the treatment of Israeli exports? __________ By way of an aside, it's worth mentioning I fully appreciate the temptation of resorting to distraction tactics here. Responding honestly to the above two questions would in my view undermine your case. I suspect it would expose you as having double standards. It may even show that your position isn't based on morally-consistent, sound reasoning. And what other possibilities remain? Unsound reasoning? Bias? Perhaps your answers would also reveal hypocrisy — for example, if you spent time at the Walled Off Hotel, but arrived there via TLV rather than AMM. My belief is that you're acutely aware of this. So I do understand the evasiveness regarding both questions. Nobody but a masochist would enjoy losing face. __________ All pretty trivial, but it highlights a serious obstacle too. When the emphasis is on point-scoring, insults or avoiding personal embarrassment at any cost, there isn't much room left for discussing complicated and delicate issues in a forthright, sincere manner. That's discouraging — to the point where many people no longer bother voicing their opinions. Instead, they self-censor. For the sake of a simpler life with less hassle or abuse. The field is then left wide open to the demagogues, idealogues and zealots. [These individuals are easy to spot. The starting point for them is always their conclusion. Selected facts are useful, but only to the extent they support the conclusion.] What we end up with is a combination of largely-disengaged masses, and a vocal few — who are speaking at each other with their parallel monologues or just name-calling. As a societal recipe, it's less than ideal. Dear met , I made my position very clear in my very first post in response to yours. If that was unclear let me clarify - anyone advocating a certain policy (in my case the South Africa model) usually means that they personally hold that position. If you think even that is obtuse, yes I believe there should be total and complete boycott of all Israeli products including arts and sports boycott. I for myself have never knowingly bought anything from Israel. And, I will not travel to Israel, hence I have not been to the Walled Off and sadly never will.
Would I take this stance against another country that has similar record, yes I will and I have.
As regards your accusation of my "once again distorted my words and attributed to me a position which isn't mine" I am only saying what you stated in your post and if I distorted your position then it appears so has everyone else who read it and responded to it. Are we all wrong?!
I hope I have made myself clear.
Lastly I would like to say that it would be totally wrong for you to claim the £100 wager offered by rbk as the wager was against you. You continuously speak of honour in your posts, I would say that it would be extremely dishonourable thing to do if you did.
Read more: urbanartassociation.com/post/1736360/quote/147672?page=58#ixzz5Ii4AmocP
met I have to say your arrogance and unbridled conceit made me chuckle. I am not going to pick apart your argument I don’t have the time or the desire but… You say you “try to avoid engaging with forum members …. who seem too close-minded to contemplate alternative perspectives” you also say “I make regular efforts to argue against myself”. Well, if former is true I suggest you avoid the latter. If you had spent as much time looking up South Africa’s transition from an apartheid pariah state to what it is today, as you did sitting at your keyboard pontificating your intellect and superior intelligence you might have realised my point. That which you suggest in your argument cannot work did work in bringing South Africa in from the cold – including art and sports boycotts. There were people at the time who said sanctions and boycotts cannot and will not work – in the end it was those very sanctions and boycotts that did. You're argument at the end of the day is not to take any action against Israel because, well there are other bad guys in the world too. That to me is a coward's attitude. Have a nice day. To be clear, I don't expect you to pick apart my argument if you haven't the time or desire. [This forum hosts a very rich variety of art enthusiasts and opinions. Nevertheless, there's still one assertion each of us can probably agree on: It's much easier (and faster) to attack the person presenting an argument than it is to go after the argument itself.]All I ask from your side is good faith. Does that request sound fair and reasonable? Of course what good faith requires is the intellectual honesty referred to earlier. This includes not trying to cloud an issue or shift the focus of a specific discussion, and not ducking awkward questions. __________ Assuming your hope is that the art world "boycotts anything Israeli", then we differ on this particular point. If that's correct, I'll repeat my original questions: 1. Would you also be comfortable publicly calling upon everyone in the art world to boycott anything, say, Chinese? 2. What are your thoughts and proposals regarding (a) people travelling to or via Israel; (b) the stance to be taken towards Israeli creatives and their artwork; (c) and the treatment of Israeli exports? __________ By way of an aside, it's worth mentioning I fully appreciate the temptation of resorting to distraction tactics here. Responding honestly to the above two questions would in my view undermine your case. I suspect it would expose you as having double standards. It may even show that your position isn't based on morally-consistent, sound reasoning. And what other possibilities remain? Unsound reasoning? Bias? Perhaps your answers would also reveal hypocrisy — for example, if you spent time at the Walled Off Hotel, but arrived there via TLV rather than AMM. My belief is that you're acutely aware of this. So I do understand the evasiveness regarding both questions. Nobody but a masochist would enjoy losing face. __________ All pretty trivial, but it highlights a serious obstacle too. When the emphasis is on point-scoring, insults or avoiding personal embarrassment at any cost, there isn't much room left for discussing complicated and delicate issues in a forthright, sincere manner. That's discouraging — to the point where many people no longer bother voicing their opinions. Instead, they self-censor. For the sake of a simpler life with less hassle or abuse. The field is then left wide open to the demagogues, idealogues and zealots. [These individuals are easy to spot. The starting point for them is always their conclusion. Selected facts are useful, but only to the extent they support the conclusion.] What we end up with is a combination of largely-disengaged masses, and a vocal few — who are speaking at each other with their parallel monologues or just name-calling. As a societal recipe, it's less than ideal. Dear met , I made my position very clear in my very first post in response to yours. If that was unclear let me clarify - anyone advocating a certain policy (in my case the South Africa model) usually means that they personally hold that position. If you think even that is obtuse, yes I believe there should be total and complete boycott of all Israeli products including arts and sports boycott. I for myself have never knowingly bought anything from Israel. And, I will not travel to Israel, hence I have not been to the Walled Off and sadly never will. Would I take this stance against another country that has similar record, yes I will and I have. As regards your accusation of my "once again distorted my words and attributed to me a position which isn't mine" I am only saying what you stated in your post and if I distorted your position then it appears so has everyone else who read it and responded to it. Are we all wrong?! I hope I have made myself clear. Lastly I would like to say that it would be totally wrong for you to claim the £100 wager offered by rbk as the wager was against you. You continuously speak of honour in your posts, I would say that it would be extremely dishonourable thing to do if you did. Read more: urbanartassociation.com/post/1736360/quote/147672?page=58#ixzz5Ii4AmocP
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Dive Jedi
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Dive Jedi on Jun 17, 2018 20:27:32 GMT 1, What a f**kingnut job! Is this what Pro-Israeli rhetoric has devolved too? Thinking logical, non-partisan people have got it all wrong? If they could only see the other sides plight?? “THE ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST” THAT FORCES PEOPLE INTO CAGES, CUTS OFF BASIC HUMAN NECESSITIES AND SEGRAGATES BY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS/BIRTH ORDER...only too maim & kill children and the “FREE” press? -Jesus Christ. That's a quote by Jesus Christ ?
How odd….
What a f**kingnut job! Is this what Pro-Israeli rhetoric has devolved too? Thinking logical, non-partisan people have got it all wrong? If they could only see the other sides plight?? “THE ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST” THAT FORCES PEOPLE INTO CAGES, CUTS OFF BASIC HUMAN NECESSITIES AND SEGRAGATES BY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS/BIRTH ORDER...only too maim & kill children and the “FREE” press? -Jesus Christ. That's a quote by Jesus Christ ? How odd….
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Dive Jedi on Jun 17, 2018 20:36:06 GMT 1, Well, although I can appreciate the donation to a good cause I think you are the one person who can not take on this bet.
Well, although I can appreciate the donation to a good cause I think you are the one person who can not take on this bet.
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met
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by met on Jun 19, 2018 13:13:05 GMT 1, Dear met, I made my position very clear in my very first post in response to yours. If that was unclear let me clarify - anyone advocating a certain policy (in my case the South Africa model) usually means that they personally hold that position. If you think even that is obtuse, yes I believe there should be total and complete boycott of all Israeli products including arts and sports boycott. I for myself have never knowingly bought anything from Israel. And, I will not travel to Israel, hence I have not been to the Walled Off and sadly never will. Would I take this stance against another country that has similar record, yes I will and I have. As regards your accusation of my "once again distorted my words and attributed to me a position which isn't mine" I am only saying what you stated in your post and if I distorted your position then it appears so has everyone else who read it and responded to it. Are we all wrong?! I hope I have made myself clear. Lastly I would like to say that it would be totally wrong for you to claim the £100 wager offered by rbk as the wager was against you. You continuously speak of honour in your posts, I would say that it would be extremely dishonourable thing to do if you did. Read more: urbanartassociation.com/post/1736360/quote/147672?page=58#ixzz5Ii4AmocP
Many thanks, swissmade. This is just a quick courtesy acknowledgement and holding message.
My presence on the forum is rather sporadic. I make a conscious effort to limit my time here. Anything more than small, intermittent doses often prevents me from actually getting things done in life. The impact is probably similar to excessive gaming, binge-drinking, or social-media addiction.
That said, you have my commitment of a proper response to your post in the coming week.
Dear met, I made my position very clear in my very first post in response to yours. If that was unclear let me clarify - anyone advocating a certain policy (in my case the South Africa model) usually means that they personally hold that position. If you think even that is obtuse, yes I believe there should be total and complete boycott of all Israeli products including arts and sports boycott. I for myself have never knowingly bought anything from Israel. And, I will not travel to Israel, hence I have not been to the Walled Off and sadly never will. Would I take this stance against another country that has similar record, yes I will and I have. As regards your accusation of my "once again distorted my words and attributed to me a position which isn't mine" I am only saying what you stated in your post and if I distorted your position then it appears so has everyone else who read it and responded to it. Are we all wrong?! I hope I have made myself clear. Lastly I would like to say that it would be totally wrong for you to claim the £100 wager offered by rbk as the wager was against you. You continuously speak of honour in your posts, I would say that it would be extremely dishonourable thing to do if you did. Read more: urbanartassociation.com/post/1736360/quote/147672?page=58#ixzz5Ii4AmocPMany thanks, swissmade. This is just a quick courtesy acknowledgement and holding message. My presence on the forum is rather sporadic. I make a conscious effort to limit my time here. Anything more than small, intermittent doses often prevents me from actually getting things done in life. The impact is probably similar to excessive gaming, binge-drinking, or social-media addiction. That said, you have my commitment of a proper response to your post in the coming week.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by met on Jun 19, 2018 13:19:09 GMT 1, What a f**kingnut job! Is this what Pro-Israeli rhetoric has devolved too? Thinking logical, non-partisan people have got it all wrong? If they could only see the other sides plight?? “THE ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST” THAT FORCES PEOPLE INTO CAGES, CUTS OFF BASIC HUMAN NECESSITIES AND SEGRAGATES BY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS/BIRTH ORDER...only too maim & kill children and the “FREE” press? -Jesus Christ. That's a quote by Jesus Christ ? How odd….
It isn't written in the style of the King James Version of the Bible. A giveaway here is the use of upper case and emojis.
Could this be from the New International Version?
Or it might be a paraphrase rather than a verbatim quote. Matthew 12:30?
What a f**kingnut job! Is this what Pro-Israeli rhetoric has devolved too? Thinking logical, non-partisan people have got it all wrong? If they could only see the other sides plight?? “THE ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST” THAT FORCES PEOPLE INTO CAGES, CUTS OFF BASIC HUMAN NECESSITIES AND SEGRAGATES BY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS/BIRTH ORDER...only too maim & kill children and the “FREE” press? -Jesus Christ. That's a quote by Jesus Christ ? How odd…. It isn't written in the style of the King James Version of the Bible. A giveaway here is the use of upper case and emojis. Could this be from the New International Version? Or it might be a paraphrase rather than a verbatim quote. Matthew 12:30?
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Dive Jedi
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Dive Jedi on Jun 19, 2018 13:41:04 GMT 1, That's a quote by Jesus Christ ? How odd…. It isn't written in the style of the King James Version of the Bible. A giveaway here is the use of upper case and emojis. Could this be from the New International Version? Or it might be a paraphrase rather than a verbatim quote. Matthew 12:30? I think it's Kalm 03:55
That's a quote by Jesus Christ ? How odd…. It isn't written in the style of the King James Version of the Bible. A giveaway here is the use of upper case and emojis. Could this be from the New International Version? Or it might be a paraphrase rather than a verbatim quote. Matthew 12:30? I think it's Kalm 03:55
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ahmad9910
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by ahmad9910 on Jun 21, 2018 10:29:51 GMT 1, one Box set Ikea frame available in USA first release receipt 1000$
Two Box Set available in Russia 1200$
ahbar@yahoo.com
WhatsApp 00972599216161
one Box set Ikea frame available in USA first release receipt 1000$
Two Box Set available in Russia 1200$
ahbar@yahoo.com
WhatsApp 00972599216161
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sugar72
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by sugar72 on Jun 21, 2018 19:53:22 GMT 1, Can i get 20 of each?
Can i get 20 of each?
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 21:48:21 GMT 1, Ahmads International Trading Co, this time next year Rodney...
Ahmads International Trading Co, this time next year Rodney...
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by shy on Jun 22, 2018 4:28:43 GMT 1, this is obviously not a serious post. Which is why it attracted so much criticism. As well, Palestine doesn't exist. The area is still part of Israel.... but that's another story.
this is obviously not a serious post. Which is why it attracted so much criticism. As well, Palestine doesn't exist. The area is still part of Israel.... but that's another story.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by irl1 on Jun 22, 2018 8:41:10 GMT 1, this is obviously not a serious post. Which is why it attracted so much criticism. As well, Palestine doesn't exist. The area is still part of Israel.... but that's another story. You need to read the whole thread from start to finish. Then take a trip down to the Walled Off Hotel or anywhere in Palestine, chat to the locals and you will know why it "does exist". Just a friendly note, you will love the place.
this is obviously not a serious post. Which is why it attracted so much criticism. As well, Palestine doesn't exist. The area is still part of Israel.... but that's another story. You need to read the whole thread from start to finish. Then take a trip down to the Walled Off Hotel or anywhere in Palestine, chat to the locals and you will know why it "does exist". Just a friendly note, you will love the place.
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ahmad9910
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by ahmad9910 on Jun 30, 2018 15:21:40 GMT 1, Hello New deafated walls like Adam and god and broken heart and more 3500$ each Ahbaar@yahoo.com Whatsapp 00972599216161
Hello New deafated walls like Adam and god and broken heart and more 3500$ each Ahbaar@yahoo.com Whatsapp 00972599216161
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Aubrey 245 on Jul 1, 2018 10:32:29 GMT 1, Hello New deafated walls like Adam and god and broken heart and more 3500$ each Ahbaar@yahoo.com Whatsapp 00972599216161 Do you have some real photos of those?
Hello New deafated walls like Adam and god and broken heart and more 3500$ each Ahbaar@yahoo.com Whatsapp 00972599216161 Do you have some real photos of those?
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by ahmad9910 on Jul 1, 2018 11:44:19 GMT 1, Hello New deafated walls like Adam and god and broken heart and more 3500$ each Ahbaar@yahoo.com Whatsapp 00972599216161 Do you have some real photos of those? yes contact me Ahbaar@yahoo.com
Whatsapp 00972599216161
Hello New deafated walls like Adam and god and broken heart and more 3500$ each Ahbaar@yahoo.com Whatsapp 00972599216161 Do you have some real photos of those? yes contact me Ahbaar@yahoo.com Whatsapp 00972599216161
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Jul 1, 2018 11:49:50 GMT 1, this is obviously not a serious post. Which is why it attracted so much criticism. As well, Palestine doesn't exist. The area is still part of Israel.... but that's another story.
I'd love to hear the story
this is obviously not a serious post. Which is why it attracted so much criticism. As well, Palestine doesn't exist. The area is still part of Israel.... but that's another story. I'd love to hear the story
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by sugar72 on Jul 1, 2018 13:03:03 GMT 1, this is obviously not a serious post. Which is why it attracted so much criticism. As well, Palestine doesn't exist. The area is still part of Israel.... but that's another story. I'd love to hear the story
Oh god dont encourage him
this is obviously not a serious post. Which is why it attracted so much criticism. As well, Palestine doesn't exist. The area is still part of Israel.... but that's another story. I'd love to hear the story Oh god dont encourage him
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Aubrey 245 on Jul 1, 2018 13:51:13 GMT 1, Do you have some real photos of those? yes contact me Ahbaar@yahoo.com Whatsapp 00972599216161 Please share them here, I am sure everybody would love to see them.
Do you have some real photos of those? yes contact me Ahbaar@yahoo.com Whatsapp 00972599216161 Please share them here, I am sure everybody would love to see them.
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ahmad9910
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by ahmad9910 on Jul 1, 2018 15:05:59 GMT 1,
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Jul 1, 2018 15:49:33 GMT 1,
If its $3500 for these how much for one without big holes in them ?
If its $3500 for these how much for one without big holes in them ?
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Cookiemonster on Jul 1, 2018 16:02:19 GMT 1, It's become a joke the way hotel penalise or put restrictions in place to limit tourist who wish to buy more then one but continue to sell primo works to this clown. Surely they must be doing so knowingly!!
It's become a joke the way hotel penalise or put restrictions in place to limit tourist who wish to buy more then one but continue to sell primo works to this clown. Surely they must be doing so knowingly!!
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by touchdowntodd on Jul 1, 2018 16:05:13 GMT 1, 3.5k and paper towel background for pics.... Ijs
3.5k and paper towel background for pics.... Ijs
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by ahmad9910 on Jul 1, 2018 16:06:37 GMT 1,
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by sugar72 on Jul 1, 2018 16:18:56 GMT 1, Am i wrong in thinking that galleries are not allowed to sell on here?
All Ahmad has contributed is 56 plus pahes of overpriced and questionable banksy pieces.
Surely the same rules should apply to him?
Am i wrong in thinking that galleries are not allowed to sell on here?
All Ahmad has contributed is 56 plus pahes of overpriced and questionable banksy pieces.
Surely the same rules should apply to him?
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by ahmad9910 on Jul 1, 2018 16:22:21 GMT 1, Am i wrong in thinking that galleries are not allowed to sell on here? All Ahmad has contributed is 56 plus pahes of overpriced and questionable banksy pieces. Surely the same rules should apply to him? Be fair in judgment. Your words are very hurtful
Am i wrong in thinking that galleries are not allowed to sell on here? All Ahmad has contributed is 56 plus pahes of overpriced and questionable banksy pieces. Surely the same rules should apply to him? Be fair in judgment. Your words are very hurtful
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Jul 1, 2018 16:55:41 GMT 1, this is obviously not a serious post. Which is why it attracted so much criticism. As well, Palestine doesn't exist. The area is still part of Israel.... but that's another story. I'd love to hear the story www.amnesty.org.uk/ban-israeli-settlement-goods-local-groups
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Jul 1, 2018 16:56:36 GMT 1, Amnesty International UK / Local groups Ban Israeli settlement goods Palestine For half a century, Israel’s occupation of the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip has resulted in systematic human rights violations against Palestinians living there.
Israel’s military rule disrupts every aspect of daily life in the Occupied Palestinian Territories. It continues to affect whether, when and how Palestinians can travel to work or school, go abroad, visit their relatives, earn a living, attend a protest, access their farmland, or even access electricity or a clean water supply. It means daily humiliation, discrimination, fear and oppression. People’s entire lives are entirely at the mercy of the Israeli authorities.
War crimes Settlements and their infrastructure are a means by which Israel dominates access to Palestinian natural resources. Palestinians are denied access to resources such as water, fertile land, quarries, and minerals. Meanwhile Israeli settlers and companies use these resources to produce products – everything from vegetables to cosmetics - that are traded and sold around the world.
Settlements flagrantly violate international law and constitute war crimes. The UK, like all other states, has a clear obligation to ensure respect for international humanitarian law. It must not recognize or assist in any manner the illegal situation that Israel’s settlement policy has created.
An end to the violations We want governments to stop enabling the economy that keeps these illegal settlements growing and fuels the suffering of Palestinians. The issue is not just about Israel seizing Palestinian land and resources. Governments around the world are letting goods produced in these settlements into their markets, and are allowing companies in their countries to operate in settlements. All of this helps the illegal settlements profit and expand.
By banning settlement goods and putting in place laws and regulations that stop companies from operating in Israeli settlements, the UK has an opportunity to make a real difference to the lives of millions of Palestinians who have endured decades of injustice, indignity and discrimination.
Amnesty UK is calling on the Foreign Secretary to ban Israeli settlement goods from entering UK markets, and to stop companies in the UK from operating in settlements or trading in their goods – by doing this the UK government can help put an end to the violations suffered by Palestinians living under Israel’s occupation.
What you can do: Take action online – and share the link with others by forwarding it on via email or text, or by sharing it on social media Sign the offline petition – use this petition to get signatures in your community Buy a T-shirt – to show your support for the campaign Raise awareness – campaign materials are available to order for you to use at meetings, events, and stalls to get your members and the local community talking about the human rights violations and abuses that result from the illegal Israeli settlements (details below) Network – work with other groups in the area who are also campaigning against Israeli settlements, the partnership guide below will help you make an approach and work with other organisations working on Israel/Palestine Want to know how to answer frequently asked questions on this campaign? Find out more now.
Campaign materials We have materials to support you with your campaigning, you can order these by phoning 01788 545 553.
Amnesty International UK / Local groups Ban Israeli settlement goods Palestine For half a century, Israel’s occupation of the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip has resulted in systematic human rights violations against Palestinians living there.
Israel’s military rule disrupts every aspect of daily life in the Occupied Palestinian Territories. It continues to affect whether, when and how Palestinians can travel to work or school, go abroad, visit their relatives, earn a living, attend a protest, access their farmland, or even access electricity or a clean water supply. It means daily humiliation, discrimination, fear and oppression. People’s entire lives are entirely at the mercy of the Israeli authorities.
War crimes Settlements and their infrastructure are a means by which Israel dominates access to Palestinian natural resources. Palestinians are denied access to resources such as water, fertile land, quarries, and minerals. Meanwhile Israeli settlers and companies use these resources to produce products – everything from vegetables to cosmetics - that are traded and sold around the world.
Settlements flagrantly violate international law and constitute war crimes. The UK, like all other states, has a clear obligation to ensure respect for international humanitarian law. It must not recognize or assist in any manner the illegal situation that Israel’s settlement policy has created.
An end to the violations We want governments to stop enabling the economy that keeps these illegal settlements growing and fuels the suffering of Palestinians. The issue is not just about Israel seizing Palestinian land and resources. Governments around the world are letting goods produced in these settlements into their markets, and are allowing companies in their countries to operate in settlements. All of this helps the illegal settlements profit and expand.
By banning settlement goods and putting in place laws and regulations that stop companies from operating in Israeli settlements, the UK has an opportunity to make a real difference to the lives of millions of Palestinians who have endured decades of injustice, indignity and discrimination.
Amnesty UK is calling on the Foreign Secretary to ban Israeli settlement goods from entering UK markets, and to stop companies in the UK from operating in settlements or trading in their goods – by doing this the UK government can help put an end to the violations suffered by Palestinians living under Israel’s occupation.
What you can do: Take action online – and share the link with others by forwarding it on via email or text, or by sharing it on social media Sign the offline petition – use this petition to get signatures in your community Buy a T-shirt – to show your support for the campaign Raise awareness – campaign materials are available to order for you to use at meetings, events, and stalls to get your members and the local community talking about the human rights violations and abuses that result from the illegal Israeli settlements (details below) Network – work with other groups in the area who are also campaigning against Israeli settlements, the partnership guide below will help you make an approach and work with other organisations working on Israel/Palestine Want to know how to answer frequently asked questions on this campaign? Find out more now.
Campaign materials We have materials to support you with your campaigning, you can order these by phoning 01788 545 553.
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irl1
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by irl1 on Jul 1, 2018 17:20:31 GMT 1, It's become a joke the way hotel penalise or put restrictions in place to limit tourist who wish to buy more then one but continue to sell primo works to this clown. Surely they must be doing so knowingly!! He might be booking a bunk (60 dollars) going in and buying them that way. You don't even have to stay the night. I would imagine that a lot of locals are doing this.
It's become a joke the way hotel penalise or put restrictions in place to limit tourist who wish to buy more then one but continue to sell primo works to this clown. Surely they must be doing so knowingly!! He might be booking a bunk (60 dollars) going in and buying them that way. You don't even have to stay the night. I would imagine that a lot of locals are doing this.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Jul 1, 2018 17:29:47 GMT 1, It's become a joke the way hotel penalise or put restrictions in place to limit tourist who wish to buy more then one but continue to sell primo works to this clown. Surely they must be doing so knowingly!! He might be booking a bunk (60 dollars) going in and buying them that way. You don't even have to stay the night. I would imagine that a lot of locals are doing this.
Im more inclined to think that locals are walking in and buying just as they were doing when i was there last, infact a local was walked to the front of the queue i was stood in by a hotel employee
It's become a joke the way hotel penalise or put restrictions in place to limit tourist who wish to buy more then one but continue to sell primo works to this clown. Surely they must be doing so knowingly!! He might be booking a bunk (60 dollars) going in and buying them that way. You don't even have to stay the night. I would imagine that a lot of locals are doing this. Im more inclined to think that locals are walking in and buying just as they were doing when i was there last, infact a local was walked to the front of the queue i was stood in by a hotel employee
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