Pysgod
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Pysgod on Jan 22, 2018 18:55:25 GMT 1, Depends on the versions. the very first heavier brick / ikea frame version commands a premium Can't tell if you're joking? I don't think he is
Depends on the versions. the very first heavier brick / ikea frame version commands a premium Can't tell if you're joking? I don't think he is
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Matt
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Matt on Jan 22, 2018 18:58:20 GMT 1, Poor or low Feed back might of put buyers off Or collection only ? Those that paid £4-6000 when first came out! Ouch🙈 A lot of galleries still price them at £2k+ Depends on the versions. the very first heavier brick / ikea frame version commands a premium
No, realistically they don’t. They came out earlier so prices were higher, simply because they were still scarce.
It like saying the October ones command a premium on the November ones.
I have both. The stone barely makes a difference except in colour, and I even happen to find the local made frames better quality than the ikea.
They might command a premium for nutty collectors who want to own all versions, like certain people will pay more for a print of a certain number, but that’s about it...
Poor or low Feed back might of put buyers off Or collection only ? Those that paid £4-6000 when first came out! Ouch🙈 A lot of galleries still price them at £2k+ Depends on the versions. the very first heavier brick / ikea frame version commands a premium No, realistically they don’t. They came out earlier so prices were higher, simply because they were still scarce. It like saying the October ones command a premium on the November ones. I have both. The stone barely makes a difference except in colour, and I even happen to find the local made frames better quality than the ikea. They might command a premium for nutty collectors who want to own all versions, like certain people will pay more for a print of a certain number, but that’s about it...
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by FЯ on Jan 22, 2018 19:02:26 GMT 1, Depends on the versions. the very first heavier brick / ikea frame version commands a premium No, realistically they don’t. They came out earlier so prices were higher, simply because they were still scarce. It like saying the October ones command a premium on the November ones. I have both. The stone barely makes a difference except in colour, and I even happen to find the local made frames better quality than the ikea. They might command a premium for nutty collectors who want to own all versions, like certain people will pay more for a print of a certain number, but that’s about it... Thats odd as ive held both side by side and there is a noticeable difference in quality, even of the print inside. the newer ones feel like christmas cracker gifts.
Depends on the versions. the very first heavier brick / ikea frame version commands a premium No, realistically they don’t. They came out earlier so prices were higher, simply because they were still scarce. It like saying the October ones command a premium on the November ones. I have both. The stone barely makes a difference except in colour, and I even happen to find the local made frames better quality than the ikea. They might command a premium for nutty collectors who want to own all versions, like certain people will pay more for a print of a certain number, but that’s about it... Thats odd as ive held both side by side and there is a noticeable difference in quality, even of the print inside. the newer ones feel like christmas cracker gifts.
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Pysgod
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Pysgod on Jan 22, 2018 19:05:34 GMT 1, No, realistically they don’t. They came out earlier so prices were higher, simply because they were still scarce. It like saying the October ones command a premium on the November ones. I have both. The stone barely makes a difference except in colour, and I even happen to find the local made frames better quality than the ikea. They might command a premium for nutty collectors who want to own all versions, like certain people will pay more for a print of a certain number, but that’s about it... Thats odd as ive held both side by side and there is a noticeable difference in quality, even of the print inside. the newer ones feel like christmas cracker gifts. you are odd
No, realistically they don’t. They came out earlier so prices were higher, simply because they were still scarce. It like saying the October ones command a premium on the November ones. I have both. The stone barely makes a difference except in colour, and I even happen to find the local made frames better quality than the ikea. They might command a premium for nutty collectors who want to own all versions, like certain people will pay more for a print of a certain number, but that’s about it... Thats odd as ive held both side by side and there is a noticeable difference in quality, even of the print inside. the newer ones feel like christmas cracker gifts. you are odd
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Matt
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Matt on Jan 22, 2018 19:07:46 GMT 1, No, realistically they don’t. They came out earlier so prices were higher, simply because they were still scarce. It like saying the October ones command a premium on the November ones. I have both. The stone barely makes a difference except in colour, and I even happen to find the local made frames better quality than the ikea. They might command a premium for nutty collectors who want to own all versions, like certain people will pay more for a print of a certain number, but that’s about it... Thats odd as ive held both side by side and there is a noticeable difference in quality, even of the print inside. the newer ones feel like christmas cracker gifts.
You need to stop buying fakes ? 😁
Seriously I see 0 difference in the print (mine is from week 3 of these being available), and the difference in the stone is a matter of taste, and the initial frame feels worse than the new.
But hey good to know one of mine is worth a ton. Especially since that now that you say it I think Banksy was in the studio that day and he assembled mine himself 🤣
No, realistically they don’t. They came out earlier so prices were higher, simply because they were still scarce. It like saying the October ones command a premium on the November ones. I have both. The stone barely makes a difference except in colour, and I even happen to find the local made frames better quality than the ikea. They might command a premium for nutty collectors who want to own all versions, like certain people will pay more for a print of a certain number, but that’s about it... Thats odd as ive held both side by side and there is a noticeable difference in quality, even of the print inside. the newer ones feel like christmas cracker gifts. You need to stop buying fakes ? 😁 Seriously I see 0 difference in the print (mine is from week 3 of these being available), and the difference in the stone is a matter of taste, and the initial frame feels worse than the new. But hey good to know one of mine is worth a ton. Especially since that now that you say it I think Banksy was in the studio that day and he assembled mine himself 🤣
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by FЯ on Jan 22, 2018 19:07:57 GMT 1, Thats odd as ive held both side by side and there is a noticeable difference in quality, even of the print inside. the newer ones feel like christmas cracker gifts. you are odd No. Just dont like bullshit.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by FЯ on Jan 22, 2018 19:08:42 GMT 1, Thats odd as ive held both side by side and there is a noticeable difference in quality, even of the print inside. the newer ones feel like christmas cracker gifts. You need to stop buying fakes ? 😁 Seriously I see 0 difference in the print (mine is from week 3 of these being available), and the difference in the stone is a matter of taste, and the initial frame feels worse than the new. But hey good to know one of mine is worth a ton. Especially since that now that you say it I think Banksy was in the studio that day and he assembled mine himself 🤣 Week three is miles along, have you seen the first editions?
Thats odd as ive held both side by side and there is a noticeable difference in quality, even of the print inside. the newer ones feel like christmas cracker gifts. You need to stop buying fakes ? 😁 Seriously I see 0 difference in the print (mine is from week 3 of these being available), and the difference in the stone is a matter of taste, and the initial frame feels worse than the new. But hey good to know one of mine is worth a ton. Especially since that now that you say it I think Banksy was in the studio that day and he assembled mine himself 🤣 Week three is miles along, have you seen the first editions?
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Matt
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Matt on Jan 22, 2018 19:16:03 GMT 1, You need to stop buying fakes ? 😁 Seriously I see 0 difference in the print (mine is from week 3 of these being available), and the difference in the stone is a matter of taste, and the initial frame feels worse than the new. But hey good to know one of mine is worth a ton. Especially since that now that you say it I think Banksy was in the studio that day and he assembled mine himself 🤣 Week three is miles along, have you seen the first editions?
If I had said Friday of week 1 you would have said they commanded a premium until Thursday evening...so I’m going to stop here.
Enjoy your premium first edition
You need to stop buying fakes ? 😁 Seriously I see 0 difference in the print (mine is from week 3 of these being available), and the difference in the stone is a matter of taste, and the initial frame feels worse than the new. But hey good to know one of mine is worth a ton. Especially since that now that you say it I think Banksy was in the studio that day and he assembled mine himself 🤣 Week three is miles along, have you seen the first editions? If I had said Friday of week 1 you would have said they commanded a premium until Thursday evening...so I’m going to stop here. Enjoy your premium first edition
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by tab1 on Jan 22, 2018 19:16:55 GMT 1, No, realistically they don’t. They came out earlier so prices were higher, simply because they were still scarce. It like saying the October ones command a premium on the November ones. I have both. The stone barely makes a difference except in colour, and I even happen to find the local made frames better quality than the ikea. They might command a premium for nutty collectors who want to own all versions, like certain people will pay more for a print of a certain number, but that’s about it... Thats odd as ive held both side by side and there is a noticeable difference in quality, even of the print inside. the newer ones feel like christmas cracker gifts.
The first ones were made in uk and had a problem with customs shipping over hence they had no boxsets for a week or so then only released sparingly to overcome this they make them in Palestine , explained to me by one of the woh managers, I asked on second visit . They like to keep a mystery around the sale items
No, realistically they don’t. They came out earlier so prices were higher, simply because they were still scarce. It like saying the October ones command a premium on the November ones. I have both. The stone barely makes a difference except in colour, and I even happen to find the local made frames better quality than the ikea. They might command a premium for nutty collectors who want to own all versions, like certain people will pay more for a print of a certain number, but that’s about it... Thats odd as ive held both side by side and there is a noticeable difference in quality, even of the print inside. the newer ones feel like christmas cracker gifts. The first ones were made in uk and had a problem with customs shipping over hence they had no boxsets for a week or so then only released sparingly to overcome this they make them in Palestine , explained to me by one of the woh managers, I asked on second visit . They like to keep a mystery around the sale items
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by hnkpnk on Jan 22, 2018 19:18:27 GMT 1, No, the first runs were a different quality made in banksys studio, not in the hotel. And you know this how?
No, the first runs were a different quality made in banksys studio, not in the hotel. And you know this how?
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Coach on Jan 22, 2018 20:09:57 GMT 1, No, realistically they don’t. They came out earlier so prices were higher, simply because they were still scarce. It like saying the October ones command a premium on the November ones. I have both. The stone barely makes a difference except in colour, and I even happen to find the local made frames better quality than the ikea. They might command a premium for nutty collectors who want to own all versions, like certain people will pay more for a print of a certain number, but that’s about it... Thats odd as ive held both side by side and there is a noticeable difference in quality, even of the print inside. the newer ones feel like christmas cracker gifts.
I suspect that the people who think the early ones are more valuable are mostly going to be those that own one (present company excepted, of course). I also think that calling it a first edition is a misnomer, as it’s an open edition. I’m happy to be shown otherwise. Clearly if, as you say, the current ones are like Xmas cracker gifts compared to the early one (so significantly poorer quality) then the old ones should command a premium. Are you able to post decent photos of both, showing the major difference in quality, particularly the actual print?
No, realistically they don’t. They came out earlier so prices were higher, simply because they were still scarce. It like saying the October ones command a premium on the November ones. I have both. The stone barely makes a difference except in colour, and I even happen to find the local made frames better quality than the ikea. They might command a premium for nutty collectors who want to own all versions, like certain people will pay more for a print of a certain number, but that’s about it... Thats odd as ive held both side by side and there is a noticeable difference in quality, even of the print inside. the newer ones feel like christmas cracker gifts. I suspect that the people who think the early ones are more valuable are mostly going to be those that own one (present company excepted, of course). I also think that calling it a first edition is a misnomer, as it’s an open edition. I’m happy to be shown otherwise. Clearly if, as you say, the current ones are like Xmas cracker gifts compared to the early one (so significantly poorer quality) then the old ones should command a premium. Are you able to post decent photos of both, showing the major difference in quality, particularly the actual print?
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by FЯ on Jan 22, 2018 20:15:32 GMT 1, Thats odd as ive held both side by side and there is a noticeable difference in quality, even of the print inside. the newer ones feel like christmas cracker gifts. I suspect that the people who think the early ones are more valuable are mostly going to be those that own one (present company excepted, of course). I also think that calling it a first edition is a misnomer, as it’s an open edition. I’m happy to be shown otherwise. Clearly if, as you say, the current ones are like Xmas cracker gifts compared to the early one (so significantly poorer quality) then the old ones should command a premium. Are you able to post decent photos of both, showing the major difference in quality, particularly the actual print? Someone posted a comparison a while back, i dont have it to hand. The print is much darker, pomace stone mix is darker and contains stones (noticeably heavier to the touch) and the frame is ikea, but most of them were. These changed around week 2-3 to the lighter pomace stone.
ive not mentioned values, i just pointed out that the ones that initially sold for more were the original editions before it became more mass produced. If i was buying one and a fussy banksy collector thats what i would be aiming for as there is far less of them about.
Thats odd as ive held both side by side and there is a noticeable difference in quality, even of the print inside. the newer ones feel like christmas cracker gifts. I suspect that the people who think the early ones are more valuable are mostly going to be those that own one (present company excepted, of course). I also think that calling it a first edition is a misnomer, as it’s an open edition. I’m happy to be shown otherwise. Clearly if, as you say, the current ones are like Xmas cracker gifts compared to the early one (so significantly poorer quality) then the old ones should command a premium. Are you able to post decent photos of both, showing the major difference in quality, particularly the actual print? Someone posted a comparison a while back, i dont have it to hand. The print is much darker, pomace stone mix is darker and contains stones (noticeably heavier to the touch) and the frame is ikea, but most of them were. These changed around week 2-3 to the lighter pomace stone. ive not mentioned values, i just pointed out that the ones that initially sold for more were the original editions before it became more mass produced. If i was buying one and a fussy banksy collector thats what i would be aiming for as there is far less of them about.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Coach on Jan 22, 2018 20:18:19 GMT 1, I suspect that the people who think the early ones are more valuable are mostly going to be those that own one (present company excepted, of course). I also think that calling it a first edition is a misnomer, as it’s an open edition. I’m happy to be shown otherwise. Clearly if, as you say, the current ones are like Xmas cracker gifts compared to the early one (so significantly poorer quality) then the old ones should command a premium. Are you able to post decent photos of both, showing the major difference in quality, particularly the actual print? Someone posted a comparison a while back, i dont have it to hand. The print is much darker, pomace stone mix is darker and contains stones (noticeably heavier to the touch) and the frame is ikea, but most of them were. These changed around week 2-3 to the lighter pomace stone. ive not mentioned values, i just pointed out that the ones that initially sold for more were the original editions before it became more mass produced. If i was buying one and a fussy banksy collector thats what i would be aiming for as there is far less of them about.
Ok, thanks. Hopefully someone else can post comparison pictures. It would surprise me if they changed the printing method or image after just a few weeks, but it’s possible.
I suspect that the people who think the early ones are more valuable are mostly going to be those that own one (present company excepted, of course). I also think that calling it a first edition is a misnomer, as it’s an open edition. I’m happy to be shown otherwise. Clearly if, as you say, the current ones are like Xmas cracker gifts compared to the early one (so significantly poorer quality) then the old ones should command a premium. Are you able to post decent photos of both, showing the major difference in quality, particularly the actual print? Someone posted a comparison a while back, i dont have it to hand. The print is much darker, pomace stone mix is darker and contains stones (noticeably heavier to the touch) and the frame is ikea, but most of them were. These changed around week 2-3 to the lighter pomace stone. ive not mentioned values, i just pointed out that the ones that initially sold for more were the original editions before it became more mass produced. If i was buying one and a fussy banksy collector thats what i would be aiming for as there is far less of them about. Ok, thanks. Hopefully someone else can post comparison pictures. It would surprise me if they changed the printing method or image after just a few weeks, but it’s possible.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Wearology on Jan 22, 2018 20:20:01 GMT 1, I own an old one and a new one and there is a difference in the quality. I prefer the older ones as they have glass instead of plexiglass on the frame and also the color of paint used in the stone is more visually appealing, I prefer the red paint over the dark green paint.
I own an old one and a new one and there is a difference in the quality. I prefer the older ones as they have glass instead of plexiglass on the frame and also the color of paint used in the stone is more visually appealing, I prefer the red paint over the dark green paint.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Coach on Jan 22, 2018 20:49:32 GMT 1, I own an old one and a new one and there is a difference in the quality. I prefer the older ones as they have glass instead of plexiglass on the frame and also the color of paint used in the stone is more visually appealing, I prefer the red paint over the dark green paint.
Thanks Wear. That’s interesting. How significant do you find the difference in the quality of the print, described in the preceding posts, above?
I own an old one and a new one and there is a difference in the quality. I prefer the older ones as they have glass instead of plexiglass on the frame and also the color of paint used in the stone is more visually appealing, I prefer the red paint over the dark green paint. Thanks Wear. That’s interesting. How significant do you find the difference in the quality of the print, described in the preceding posts, above?
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by tab1 on Jan 22, 2018 20:56:09 GMT 1, Thats odd as ive held both side by side and there is a noticeable difference in quality, even of the print inside. the newer ones feel like christmas cracker gifts. I suspect that the people who think the early ones are more valuable are mostly going to be those that own one (present company excepted, of course). I also think that calling it a first edition is a misnomer, as it’s an open edition. I’m happy to be shown otherwise. Clearly if, as you say, the current ones are like Xmas cracker gifts compared to the early one (so significantly poorer quality) then the old ones should command a premium. Are you able to post decent photos of both, showing the major difference in quality, particularly the actual print?
I don’t think anyone thinks there is a price difference Just stating there IS a difference . The ones with local made frames the wall piece has a multiple range of colours rather than green and red used in IKEA framed ones , as someone said doesn’t matter, just to fussy collectors 😎 If a different printer was used ie sourced locally makes sense the actual print may slightly differ in tone.
I’m sure all particular questions would be andwered via email to woh?
Thats odd as ive held both side by side and there is a noticeable difference in quality, even of the print inside. the newer ones feel like christmas cracker gifts. I suspect that the people who think the early ones are more valuable are mostly going to be those that own one (present company excepted, of course). I also think that calling it a first edition is a misnomer, as it’s an open edition. I’m happy to be shown otherwise. Clearly if, as you say, the current ones are like Xmas cracker gifts compared to the early one (so significantly poorer quality) then the old ones should command a premium. Are you able to post decent photos of both, showing the major difference in quality, particularly the actual print? I don’t think anyone thinks there is a price difference Just stating there IS a difference . The ones with local made frames the wall piece has a multiple range of colours rather than green and red used in IKEA framed ones , as someone said doesn’t matter, just to fussy collectors 😎 If a different printer was used ie sourced locally makes sense the actual print may slightly differ in tone. I’m sure all particular questions would be andwered via email to woh?
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by slevin on Jan 22, 2018 21:20:43 GMT 1, Local frame over the Ikea frame any day
Local frame over the Ikea frame any day
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by JW on Jan 22, 2018 22:39:14 GMT 1, I'm going to get nerdy here, but not trying to encourage any pricing tiers.
For what it's worth, I own the following 3 versions (through buying direct and swaps with forum members):
Ikea Frame / Glass - purchased in the first week of them going on sale in September. Ikea Frame / Plexi - purchased in the first week of October. Local Frame / Glass - purchased early November.
Thoughts: - I can't see a big difference in the prints themselves. Either I'm missing the detail, or they are getting noticeably worse in the very recent prints. - While the local frame is heavier/may seem more sturdy, less noticeable joins etc, the finish is a little inconsistent and the Ikea frames are straighter. Nothing you'll notice while hanging on the wall though. - I have no real preference for the glass or plexi. Glass perhaps feels a little more "premium", but this is not an iphone. - The original stone is slightly darker than the stone in the plexi set. But it only seems to be on the top as the rear is fairly similar. Apparently others on sale around the same time were lighter. If they sold them with a genuinely heavier/darker stone than this (I'm still yet to see photos of this version), it seems to have been only in the first few days or mixed in with others. - The "local frame" stone has the brown tone instead of grey. As is the case with the recent wall sections, and I MUCH prefer the grey. - It's all about the red/black/green/white for me. Anything else just seems a bit gimmicky.
Overall, if I had to choose I'd probably go for the Ikea framed versions. Mostly because of the grey rock vs the brown. But your average punter isn't going to know the difference if you have any of them on the wall.
I'm going to get nerdy here, but not trying to encourage any pricing tiers. For what it's worth, I own the following 3 versions (through buying direct and swaps with forum members): Ikea Frame / Glass - purchased in the first week of them going on sale in September. Ikea Frame / Plexi - purchased in the first week of October. Local Frame / Glass - purchased early November. Thoughts: - I can't see a big difference in the prints themselves. Either I'm missing the detail, or they are getting noticeably worse in the very recent prints. - While the local frame is heavier/may seem more sturdy, less noticeable joins etc, the finish is a little inconsistent and the Ikea frames are straighter. Nothing you'll notice while hanging on the wall though. - I have no real preference for the glass or plexi. Glass perhaps feels a little more "premium", but this is not an iphone. - The original stone is slightly darker than the stone in the plexi set. But it only seems to be on the top as the rear is fairly similar. Apparently others on sale around the same time were lighter. If they sold them with a genuinely heavier/darker stone than this (I'm still yet to see photos of this version), it seems to have been only in the first few days or mixed in with others. - The "local frame" stone has the brown tone instead of grey. As is the case with the recent wall sections, and I MUCH prefer the grey. - It's all about the red/black/green/white for me. Anything else just seems a bit gimmicky. Overall, if I had to choose I'd probably go for the Ikea framed versions. Mostly because of the grey rock vs the brown. But your average punter isn't going to know the difference if you have any of them on the wall.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by FЯ on Jan 22, 2018 22:49:50 GMT 1, I'm going to get nerdy here, but not trying to encourage any pricing tiers. For what it's worth, I own the following 3 versions (through buying direct and swaps with forum members): Ikea Frame / Glass - purchased in the first week of them going on sale in September. Ikea Frame / Plexi - purchased in the first week of October. Local Frame / Glass - purchased early November. Thoughts: - I can't see a big difference in the prints themselves. Either I'm missing the detail, or they are getting noticeably worse in the very recent prints. - While the local frame is heavier/may seem more sturdy, less noticeable joins etc, the finish is a little inconsistent and the Ikea frames are straighter. Nothing you'll notice while hanging on the wall though. - I have no real preference for the glass or plexi. Glass perhaps feels a little more "premium", but this is not an iphone. - The original stone is slightly darker than the stone in the plexi set. But it only seems to be on the top as the rear is fairly similar. Apparently others on sale around the same time were lighter. If they sold them with a genuinely heavier/darker stone than this (I'm still yet to see photos of this version), it seems to have been only in the first few days or mixed in with others. - The "local frame" stone has the brown tone instead of grey. As is the case with the recent wall sections, and I MUCH prefer the grey. - It's all about the red/black/green/white for me. Anything else just seems a bit gimmicky. Overall, if I had to choose I'd probably go for the Ikea framed versions. Mostly because of the grey rock vs the brown. But your average punter isn't going to know the difference if you have any of them on the wall.
Have you lightened up the photos in anyway as the first week ones should be dark like the below. Not sure if the image has been corrected. Sad conversation but pow have fucked off so nothing left to argue about
I'm going to get nerdy here, but not trying to encourage any pricing tiers. For what it's worth, I own the following 3 versions (through buying direct and swaps with forum members): Ikea Frame / Glass - purchased in the first week of them going on sale in September. Ikea Frame / Plexi - purchased in the first week of October. Local Frame / Glass - purchased early November. Thoughts: - I can't see a big difference in the prints themselves. Either I'm missing the detail, or they are getting noticeably worse in the very recent prints. - While the local frame is heavier/may seem more sturdy, less noticeable joins etc, the finish is a little inconsistent and the Ikea frames are straighter. Nothing you'll notice while hanging on the wall though. - I have no real preference for the glass or plexi. Glass perhaps feels a little more "premium", but this is not an iphone. - The original stone is slightly darker than the stone in the plexi set. But it only seems to be on the top as the rear is fairly similar. Apparently others on sale around the same time were lighter. If they sold them with a genuinely heavier/darker stone than this (I'm still yet to see photos of this version), it seems to have been only in the first few days or mixed in with others. - The "local frame" stone has the brown tone instead of grey. As is the case with the recent wall sections, and I MUCH prefer the grey. - It's all about the red/black/green/white for me. Anything else just seems a bit gimmicky. Overall, if I had to choose I'd probably go for the Ikea framed versions. Mostly because of the grey rock vs the brown. But your average punter isn't going to know the difference if you have any of them on the wall. Have you lightened up the photos in anyway as the first week ones should be dark like the below. Not sure if the image has been corrected. Sad conversation but pow have fucked off so nothing left to argue about
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by JW on Jan 22, 2018 23:00:05 GMT 1, Have you lightened up the photos in anyway as the first week ones should be dark like the below. Not sure if the image has been corrected. Sad conversation but pow have fucked off so nothing left to argue about It was taken right under a down light. This is a bit more accurate, but still with flash and seemingly lighter than yours.
Have you lightened up the photos in anyway as the first week ones should be dark like the below. Not sure if the image has been corrected. Sad conversation but pow have fucked off so nothing left to argue about It was taken right under a down light. This is a bit more accurate, but still with flash and seemingly lighter than yours.
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Pysgod
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December 2016
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Pysgod on Jan 22, 2018 23:09:59 GMT 1, I'm going to get nerdy here, but not trying to encourage any pricing tiers. For what it's worth, I own the following 3 versions (through buying direct and swaps with forum members): Ikea Frame / Glass - purchased in the first week of them going on sale in September. Ikea Frame / Plexi - purchased in the first week of October. Local Frame / Glass - purchased early November. Thoughts: - I can't see a big difference in the prints themselves. Either I'm missing the detail, or they are getting noticeably worse in the very recent prints. - While the local frame is heavier/may seem more sturdy, less noticeable joins etc, the finish is a little inconsistent and the Ikea frames are straighter. Nothing you'll notice while hanging on the wall though. - I have no real preference for the glass or plexi. Glass perhaps feels a little more "premium", but this is not an iphone. - The original stone is slightly darker than the stone in the plexi set. But it only seems to be on the top as the rear is fairly similar. Apparently others on sale around the same time were lighter. If they sold them with a genuinely heavier/darker stone than this (I'm still yet to see photos of this version), it seems to have been only in the first few days or mixed in with others. - The "local frame" stone has the brown tone instead of grey. As is the case with the recent wall sections, and I MUCH prefer the grey. - It's all about the red/black/green/white for me. Anything else just seems a bit gimmicky.
That's exactly what they all are ! and meant to be too.
you cant make a silk purse out of a pigs ear.
I'm going to get nerdy here, but not trying to encourage any pricing tiers. For what it's worth, I own the following 3 versions (through buying direct and swaps with forum members): Ikea Frame / Glass - purchased in the first week of them going on sale in September. Ikea Frame / Plexi - purchased in the first week of October. Local Frame / Glass - purchased early November. Thoughts: - I can't see a big difference in the prints themselves. Either I'm missing the detail, or they are getting noticeably worse in the very recent prints. - While the local frame is heavier/may seem more sturdy, less noticeable joins etc, the finish is a little inconsistent and the Ikea frames are straighter. Nothing you'll notice while hanging on the wall though. - I have no real preference for the glass or plexi. Glass perhaps feels a little more "premium", but this is not an iphone. - The original stone is slightly darker than the stone in the plexi set. But it only seems to be on the top as the rear is fairly similar. Apparently others on sale around the same time were lighter. If they sold them with a genuinely heavier/darker stone than this (I'm still yet to see photos of this version), it seems to have been only in the first few days or mixed in with others. - The "local frame" stone has the brown tone instead of grey. As is the case with the recent wall sections, and I MUCH prefer the grey. - It's all about the red/black/green/white for me. Anything else just seems a bit gimmicky.
That's exactly what they all are ! and meant to be too. you cant make a silk purse out of a pigs ear.
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ahmad9910
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September 2017
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by ahmad9910 on Jan 22, 2018 23:22:23 GMT 1, Honestly I would also try to get one very quick because I am not sure how long it will be still available from source. Furthermore, I think personally that the prices for BS are now at the bottom and will increase again in the future (based on the assumption that the Hotel will Change the items in the gift shop) Heard from a good source, the box sets will be no more after Feb..... 100% true
Honestly I would also try to get one very quick because I am not sure how long it will be still available from source. Furthermore, I think personally that the prices for BS are now at the bottom and will increase again in the future (based on the assumption that the Hotel will Change the items in the gift shop) Heard from a good source, the box sets will be no more after Feb..... 100% true
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jp
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September 2006
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by jp on Jan 23, 2018 1:39:23 GMT 1, I'm going to get nerdy here, but not trying to encourage any pricing tiers. For what it's worth, I own the following 3 versions (through buying direct and swaps with forum members): Ikea Frame / Glass - purchased in the first week of them going on sale in September. Ikea Frame / Plexi - purchased in the first week of October. Local Frame / Glass - purchased early November. Thoughts: - I can't see a big difference in the prints themselves. Either I'm missing the detail, or they are getting noticeably worse in the very recent prints. - While the local frame is heavier/may seem more sturdy, less noticeable joins etc, the finish is a little inconsistent and the Ikea frames are straighter. Nothing you'll notice while hanging on the wall though. - I have no real preference for the glass or plexi. Glass perhaps feels a little more "premium", but this is not an iphone. - The original stone is slightly darker than the stone in the plexi set. But it only seems to be on the top as the rear is fairly similar. Apparently others on sale around the same time were lighter. If they sold them with a genuinely heavier/darker stone than this (I'm still yet to see photos of this version), it seems to have been only in the first few days or mixed in with others. - The "local frame" stone has the brown tone instead of grey. As is the case with the recent wall sections, and I MUCH prefer the grey. - It's all about the red/black/green/white for me. Anything else just seems a bit gimmicky. Thanks for the detailed comparison and your thoughts. The differences seem to come down to a matter of taste rather than quality. As has been stated before, most buyers would not care, let alone notice, many of these esoteric details. In 10 years time, none of the big 3 auction houses are going to bother listing "version 1" or "version 2" if / when these are sold there.
All this discussion reminds me of the slight differences in the ink when the Sepia Morons print was released by POW all those years ago. Some people insisted the light brown ink looked better than the green toned prints, and was more rare. It was a bunch of nonsense. Fast forward to 11 years later and absolutely nobody gives a damn.
I'm going to get nerdy here, but not trying to encourage any pricing tiers. For what it's worth, I own the following 3 versions (through buying direct and swaps with forum members): Ikea Frame / Glass - purchased in the first week of them going on sale in September. Ikea Frame / Plexi - purchased in the first week of October. Local Frame / Glass - purchased early November. Thoughts: - I can't see a big difference in the prints themselves. Either I'm missing the detail, or they are getting noticeably worse in the very recent prints. - While the local frame is heavier/may seem more sturdy, less noticeable joins etc, the finish is a little inconsistent and the Ikea frames are straighter. Nothing you'll notice while hanging on the wall though. - I have no real preference for the glass or plexi. Glass perhaps feels a little more "premium", but this is not an iphone. - The original stone is slightly darker than the stone in the plexi set. But it only seems to be on the top as the rear is fairly similar. Apparently others on sale around the same time were lighter. If they sold them with a genuinely heavier/darker stone than this (I'm still yet to see photos of this version), it seems to have been only in the first few days or mixed in with others. - The "local frame" stone has the brown tone instead of grey. As is the case with the recent wall sections, and I MUCH prefer the grey. - It's all about the red/black/green/white for me. Anything else just seems a bit gimmicky. Thanks for the detailed comparison and your thoughts. The differences seem to come down to a matter of taste rather than quality. As has been stated before, most buyers would not care, let alone notice, many of these esoteric details. In 10 years time, none of the big 3 auction houses are going to bother listing "version 1" or "version 2" if / when these are sold there. All this discussion reminds me of the slight differences in the ink when the Sepia Morons print was released by POW all those years ago. Some people insisted the light brown ink looked better than the green toned prints, and was more rare. It was a bunch of nonsense. Fast forward to 11 years later and absolutely nobody gives a damn.
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tab1
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September 2011
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by tab1 on Jan 23, 2018 2:42:18 GMT 1, I'm going to get nerdy here, but not trying to encourage any pricing tiers. For what it's worth, I own the following 3 versions (through buying direct and swaps with forum members): Ikea Frame / Glass - purchased in the first week of them going on sale in September. Ikea Frame / Plexi - purchased in the first week of October. Local Frame / Glass - purchased early November. Thoughts: - I can't see a big difference in the prints themselves. Either I'm missing the detail, or they are getting noticeably worse in the very recent prints. - While the local frame is heavier/may seem more sturdy, less noticeable joins etc, the finish is a little inconsistent and the Ikea frames are straighter. Nothing you'll notice while hanging on the wall though. - I have no real preference for the glass or plexi. Glass perhaps feels a little more "premium", but this is not an iphone. - The original stone is slightly darker than the stone in the plexi set. But it only seems to be on the top as the rear is fairly similar. Apparently others on sale around the same time were lighter. If they sold them with a genuinely heavier/darker stone than this (I'm still yet to see photos of this version), it seems to have been only in the first few days or mixed in with others. - The "local frame" stone has the brown tone instead of grey. As is the case with the recent wall sections, and I MUCH prefer the grey. - It's all about the red/black/green/white for me. Anything else just seems a bit gimmicky. Thanks for the detailed comparison and your thoughts. The differences seem to come down to a matter of taste rather than quality. As has been stated before, most buyers would not care, let alone notice, many of these esoteric details. In 10 years time, none of the big 3 auction houses are going to bother listing "version 1" or "version 2" if / when these are sold there. All this discussion reminds me of the slight differences in the ink when the Sepia Morons print was released by POW all those years ago. Some people insisted the light brown ink looked better than the green toned prints, and was more rare. It was a bunch of nonsense. Fast forward to 11 years later and absolutely nobody gives a damn.
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All this discussion reminds me of the slight differences in the ink when the Sepia Morons print was released by POW all those years ago. Some people insisted the light brown ink looked better than the green toned prints, and was more rare. It was a bunch of nonsense. Fast forward to 11 years later and absolutely nobody gives a damn.
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Maybe you resurrected something here , new point to haggle about 🙄😎
I'm going to get nerdy here, but not trying to encourage any pricing tiers. For what it's worth, I own the following 3 versions (through buying direct and swaps with forum members): Ikea Frame / Glass - purchased in the first week of them going on sale in September. Ikea Frame / Plexi - purchased in the first week of October. Local Frame / Glass - purchased early November. Thoughts: - I can't see a big difference in the prints themselves. Either I'm missing the detail, or they are getting noticeably worse in the very recent prints. - While the local frame is heavier/may seem more sturdy, less noticeable joins etc, the finish is a little inconsistent and the Ikea frames are straighter. Nothing you'll notice while hanging on the wall though. - I have no real preference for the glass or plexi. Glass perhaps feels a little more "premium", but this is not an iphone. - The original stone is slightly darker than the stone in the plexi set. But it only seems to be on the top as the rear is fairly similar. Apparently others on sale around the same time were lighter. If they sold them with a genuinely heavier/darker stone than this (I'm still yet to see photos of this version), it seems to have been only in the first few days or mixed in with others. - The "local frame" stone has the brown tone instead of grey. As is the case with the recent wall sections, and I MUCH prefer the grey. - It's all about the red/black/green/white for me. Anything else just seems a bit gimmicky. Thanks for the detailed comparison and your thoughts. The differences seem to come down to a matter of taste rather than quality. As has been stated before, most buyers would not care, let alone notice, many of these esoteric details. In 10 years time, none of the big 3 auction houses are going to bother listing "version 1" or "version 2" if / when these are sold there. All this discussion reminds me of the slight differences in the ink when the Sepia Morons print was released by POW all those years ago. Some people insisted the light brown ink looked better than the green toned prints, and was more rare. It was a bunch of nonsense. Fast forward to 11 years later and absolutely nobody gives a damn. Quote All this discussion reminds me of the slight differences in the ink when the Sepia Morons print was released by POW all those years ago. Some people insisted the light brown ink looked better than the green toned prints, and was more rare. It was a bunch of nonsense. Fast forward to 11 years later and absolutely nobody gives a damn. [/quote][brm Maybe you resurrected something here , new point to haggle about 🙄😎
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tab1
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September 2011
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by tab1 on Jan 23, 2018 2:44:13 GMT 1, Heard from a good source, the box sets will be no more after Feb..... 100% true
What’s new Ahmad ?
If no longer available you should save all the prints you have until they stop selling then you can get your original asking price!
Heard from a good source, the box sets will be no more after Feb..... 100% true What’s new Ahmad ? If no longer available you should save all the prints you have until they stop selling then you can get your original asking price!
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bjoern
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September 2014
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by bjoern on Jan 23, 2018 9:52:46 GMT 1, Thanks for the detailed comparison jw!.
Thanks for the detailed comparison jw!.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Happy Shopper on Jan 23, 2018 10:08:16 GMT 1, I guess anyone with the new version that would like the ikea frame can just get one from ikea!
I guess anyone with the new version that would like the ikea frame can just get one from ikea!
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bjoern
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September 2014
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by bjoern on Jan 23, 2018 10:15:44 GMT 1, I guess anyone with the new version that would like the ikea frame can just get one from ikea! sure thing, but you should be really careful removing the concrete.
I guess anyone with the new version that would like the ikea frame can just get one from ikea! sure thing, but you should be really careful removing the concrete.
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Happy Shopper on Jan 23, 2018 10:49:17 GMT 1, I guess anyone with the new version that would like the ikea frame can just get one from ikea! sure thing, but you should be really careful removing the concrete. I think you'd just swap over the spacers the stone is glued to. Although I have no intension of doing this. Ikea frames are weak, and I've had them fall apart and crash off the wall before, damaging the print inside (luckily not a Banksy )
I guess anyone with the new version that would like the ikea frame can just get one from ikea! sure thing, but you should be really careful removing the concrete. I think you'd just swap over the spacers the stone is glued to. Although I have no intension of doing this. Ikea frames are weak, and I've had them fall apart and crash off the wall before, damaging the print inside (luckily not a Banksy )
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January 1970
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Banksy • Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 13:20:50 GMT 1, I guess anyone with the new version that would like the ikea frame can just get one from ikea! I’d rather frame a print with sausages than an Ikea frame. Anyone who thinks an Ikea frame is somehow better or more valuable than a locally hand made frame is simply talking up their investment.
Cumberland ?
I guess anyone with the new version that would like the ikea frame can just get one from ikea! I’d rather frame a print with sausages than an Ikea frame. Anyone who thinks an Ikea frame is somehow better or more valuable than a locally hand made frame is simply talking up their investment. Cumberland ?
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