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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by settingson on Nov 27, 2017 14:08:24 GMT 1, I couldn't disagree more, either with you or with those who say stuff along the lines of: "I’m sure the guys at pow would be happy to know they helped a family out by choosing them to win a print." Of course I have no idea of their intentions, but if they wanted to make charitable donations to help out struggling families they could have done so. What they did was sell a print by an artist whose work is normally unachievably expensive for all but a tiny few, for a price which, while hardly negligible, was achievable for many. It is my opinion - and I write as someone who got a print, rather than out of jealousy - that those who won the chance to buy it should hang it and enjoy it. If they were unable to afford it, they shoudn't have bought it. If they didn't like it, they shouldn't have bought it. It really is that simple. Of course the print's owners can now expect to sell it for *insert random large sum of money here* and most people's bank account would look a lot better with *random large sum of money* inside it, but anyone who sells it for a massively inflated price has also denied a Banksy fan who has never been able to afford his prints, who would have loved this print and framed it and enjoyed it, the chance to do so. And, whatever is motivating their sale, they should feel guilty about it. It is not snobbishness to think that the owners of this print, or of £10 Soup Can posters, should feel some kind of duty to those who sold them so cheaply. Whatever motivated POW, I think it's unlikely (and the delayed COA proves it) that what lay behind it all was a desire to make a hefty donation to your Christmas holiday fund. You say that "keeping a print worth £15,000+ is simply not an option", but this is an artwork, not a banknote, and one that was sold days ago for a fraction of that price. If all you see when you look at your Sale Ends is £15,000+, and all you see when you look at your Soup Cans is £800, you need to have a long, hard look at yourself. Sell the print now if you want - we've all got to make a living somehow - but spare me the sanctimonious justification and admit to yourself as you do so that you are a parasite, that your self-enrichment has a cost and furthermore that it is, surely, a direct affront to the intentions of the people who sold it to you. I think you proved his point. I saw ‘as someone who got a print’ and my eyes glazed over a little bit. Not sure what world you’ve been living in but the majority of banksy owners are the EXACT people who look at their prints and see the monetary value. I think you should get off the pedestal and think about criticizing them instead of the hypothetical lottery who may sell cause the value is 10x they make in a month. Don't usually get involved in this type of debate because people aren't going to change their opinion no matter which side of the fence they sit but just felt compelled to throw a few comments in. I tried but didn't get one but realistically it wasn't good odds so no problem on that from me.
For some that did it could potentially indeed be life changing amounts and who can really blame them for selling? I buy artwork that I like to go on the wall and a 'Sale Ends' at £500 I probably feel I could justify it but I wouldn't be able to spend £15000 as it's unrealistic for me. And being perfectly blunt about it £500 for the majority be they a Banksy fan or not is actually not affordable. Therefore if through no fault of my own a collector wanted to pay me a vastly inflated sum of money for it if it had become part of my collection and it would help my day to day life then I would have felt no guilt in selling it. Think it's grossly unfair to call people parasites for selling. It was a lottery and they got lucky, pure and simple. Plenty of artwork out there to go on the wall and replace it with and if I had won one and decided to sell it doesn't mean I'm not still an art lover. In all honesty a sale like that would be 10X the value of my car. I could probably push the boat out and buy a more expensive one but it's reliable and it does what I want it to do and I prefer to use those funds for hobbies and family. Same with the artwork, I want to see it on the wall and enjoy it but if it comes to it and the value explodes I would contemplate selling as I have other pieces I would be just as happy to display if it came to it. The reason for the artwork is to display and enjoy. Does it matter if it's a Banksy, Dran, Chevrier, or Whatson or your kids school pictures as long as it makes you happy when you see it
It was a lottery and as such some deserving will have got them, some deserving will not have regardless of their financial situation. No complaints from me here and pleased to see plenty of forum members get them. For those that are getting it onto the wall I salute you and know that you appreciate it. For those that choose to sell it and buy a car, take a holiday or just lead a more financially secure life I salute your good fortune and wish you well.
Now I know why I don't usually comment!!! Takes far too much time!! lol
I couldn't disagree more, either with you or with those who say stuff along the lines of: "I’m sure the guys at pow would be happy to know they helped a family out by choosing them to win a print." Of course I have no idea of their intentions, but if they wanted to make charitable donations to help out struggling families they could have done so. What they did was sell a print by an artist whose work is normally unachievably expensive for all but a tiny few, for a price which, while hardly negligible, was achievable for many. It is my opinion - and I write as someone who got a print, rather than out of jealousy - that those who won the chance to buy it should hang it and enjoy it. If they were unable to afford it, they shoudn't have bought it. If they didn't like it, they shouldn't have bought it. It really is that simple. Of course the print's owners can now expect to sell it for *insert random large sum of money here* and most people's bank account would look a lot better with *random large sum of money* inside it, but anyone who sells it for a massively inflated price has also denied a Banksy fan who has never been able to afford his prints, who would have loved this print and framed it and enjoyed it, the chance to do so. And, whatever is motivating their sale, they should feel guilty about it. It is not snobbishness to think that the owners of this print, or of £10 Soup Can posters, should feel some kind of duty to those who sold them so cheaply. Whatever motivated POW, I think it's unlikely (and the delayed COA proves it) that what lay behind it all was a desire to make a hefty donation to your Christmas holiday fund. You say that "keeping a print worth £15,000+ is simply not an option", but this is an artwork, not a banknote, and one that was sold days ago for a fraction of that price. If all you see when you look at your Sale Ends is £15,000+, and all you see when you look at your Soup Cans is £800, you need to have a long, hard look at yourself. Sell the print now if you want - we've all got to make a living somehow - but spare me the sanctimonious justification and admit to yourself as you do so that you are a parasite, that your self-enrichment has a cost and furthermore that it is, surely, a direct affront to the intentions of the people who sold it to you. I think you proved his point. I saw ‘as someone who got a print’ and my eyes glazed over a little bit. Not sure what world you’ve been living in but the majority of banksy owners are the EXACT people who look at their prints and see the monetary value. I think you should get off the pedestal and think about criticizing them instead of the hypothetical lottery who may sell cause the value is 10x they make in a month. Don't usually get involved in this type of debate because people aren't going to change their opinion no matter which side of the fence they sit but just felt compelled to throw a few comments in. I tried but didn't get one but realistically it wasn't good odds so no problem on that from me.
For some that did it could potentially indeed be life changing amounts and who can really blame them for selling? I buy artwork that I like to go on the wall and a 'Sale Ends' at £500 I probably feel I could justify it but I wouldn't be able to spend £15000 as it's unrealistic for me. And being perfectly blunt about it £500 for the majority be they a Banksy fan or not is actually not affordable. Therefore if through no fault of my own a collector wanted to pay me a vastly inflated sum of money for it if it had become part of my collection and it would help my day to day life then I would have felt no guilt in selling it. Think it's grossly unfair to call people parasites for selling. It was a lottery and they got lucky, pure and simple. Plenty of artwork out there to go on the wall and replace it with and if I had won one and decided to sell it doesn't mean I'm not still an art lover. In all honesty a sale like that would be 10X the value of my car. I could probably push the boat out and buy a more expensive one but it's reliable and it does what I want it to do and I prefer to use those funds for hobbies and family. Same with the artwork, I want to see it on the wall and enjoy it but if it comes to it and the value explodes I would contemplate selling as I have other pieces I would be just as happy to display if it came to it. The reason for the artwork is to display and enjoy. Does it matter if it's a Banksy, Dran, Chevrier, or Whatson or your kids school pictures as long as it makes you happy when you see it
It was a lottery and as such some deserving will have got them, some deserving will not have regardless of their financial situation. No complaints from me here and pleased to see plenty of forum members get them. For those that are getting it onto the wall I salute you and know that you appreciate it. For those that choose to sell it and buy a car, take a holiday or just lead a more financially secure life I salute your good fortune and wish you well.
Now I know why I don't usually comment!!! Takes far too much time!! lol
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Rouen Cathedral on Nov 27, 2017 14:51:21 GMT 1, If ever you will be in financial trouble for some reason (I hope you will never be) you will sell your print for 20K and feel very happy you won. Last time I checked it's a free country, everyone could join the lottery. And if you won it's yours and are free to do with it what you want. Simple as that. The rest is..... opinion. Best regards, your favourite parasite I think I probably went a little over the top with my moralising. I like high horses. Everyone is of course free to do what they want with their prints. Indeed, due to partly Banksy-inflicted poverty I'm currently preparing to sell one that I bought only a few months ago, and hope to make a profit. Needs must, and all that. But I think it takes some bizarre mind-contortion to settle on the belief that the artist concerned would be happy about it. And I also think that the unusual circumstances surrounding some of the things POW have sold recently, priced considerably and deliberately under market value, does make their re-sale different from the average, common-or-garden flip. But hey, morals don't pay the bills, and who am I to judge?
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Wait now you are saying you are selling a banksy you just bought and hoping to make a profit!?!?!?
If ever you will be in financial trouble for some reason (I hope you will never be) you will sell your print for 20K and feel very happy you won. Last time I checked it's a free country, everyone could join the lottery. And if you won it's yours and are free to do with it what you want. Simple as that. The rest is..... opinion. Best regards, your favourite parasite I think I probably went a little over the top with my moralising. I like high horses. Everyone is of course free to do what they want with their prints. Indeed, due to partly Banksy-inflicted poverty I'm currently preparing to sell one that I bought only a few months ago, and hope to make a profit. Needs must, and all that. But I think it takes some bizarre mind-contortion to settle on the belief that the artist concerned would be happy about it. And I also think that the unusual circumstances surrounding some of the things POW have sold recently, priced considerably and deliberately under market value, does make their re-sale different from the average, common-or-garden flip. But hey, morals don't pay the bills, and who am I to judge? i Wait now you are saying you are selling a banksy you just bought and hoping to make a profit!?!?!? |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Flashback on Nov 27, 2017 16:35:54 GMT 1, What I love is that PoW has given the opportunity for people from all backgrounds to own this print. The way the market is with prices realistically meant a big majority of people would never have the chance to own something like this. So hats off to them! Agreed, keeping it real. That's not to say that £500 isn't beyond a lot of people's budgets, but compare this to, say, Invader who has pushed his prices above the £1,000 mark. Far too much for many people. I wonder if this will have a knock on effect for other artists, who may find it hard to justify why they're charging more than what Banksy has
What I love is that PoW has given the opportunity for people from all backgrounds to own this print. The way the market is with prices realistically meant a big majority of people would never have the chance to own something like this. So hats off to them! Agreed, keeping it real. That's not to say that £500 isn't beyond a lot of people's budgets, but compare this to, say, Invader who has pushed his prices above the £1,000 mark. Far too much for many people. I wonder if this will have a knock on effect for other artists, who may find it hard to justify why they're charging more than what Banksy has Good point. |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by firstimer on Nov 27, 2017 17:56:54 GMT 1, I'm not sure if it's already been stated here before, I couldn't find it if so, but could one of the winners kindly let us know what wording/phrasing we should be searching for in our inboxes for thought of it going to spam/ asking participating relatives to search through their emails and such?
Thank you guys in advance 
I'm not sure if it's already been stated here before, I couldn't find it if so, but could one of the winners kindly let us know what wording/phrasing we should be searching for in our inboxes for thought of it going to spam/ asking participating relatives to search through their emails and such? Thank you guys in advance |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by iamzero on Nov 27, 2017 17:58:46 GMT 1, Personally I wouldn’t want to look now... why would you want to find out that you’ve missed a chance?
Personally I wouldn’t want to look now... why would you want to find out that you’ve missed a chance?
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 18:00:32 GMT 1, I never got a denial email either, wouldn't expect them to have anymore at this point though. Also, if you didn't respond yet, I would have expected them to pass it along to someone else.
I never got a denial email either, wouldn't expect them to have anymore at this point though. Also, if you didn't respond yet, I would have expected them to pass it along to someone else.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Board Stupid on Nov 27, 2017 19:23:33 GMT 1, I'm not sure if it's already been stated here before, I couldn't find it if so, but could one of the winners kindly let us know what wording/phrasing we should be searching for in our inboxes for thought of it going to spam/ asking participating relatives to search through their emails and such? Thank you guys in advance
the email has the subject ‘Banksy ‘Sale Ends’ Lottery Update’... but at this stage I’d avoid checking, just in case you have missed it...
I'm not sure if it's already been stated here before, I couldn't find it if so, but could one of the winners kindly let us know what wording/phrasing we should be searching for in our inboxes for thought of it going to spam/ asking participating relatives to search through their emails and such? Thank you guys in advance the email has the subject ‘Banksy ‘Sale Ends’ Lottery Update’... but at this stage I’d avoid checking, just in case you have missed it... |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by firstimer on Nov 27, 2017 21:23:06 GMT 1, Thank you so much
I'm not sure if it's already been stated here before, I couldn't find it if so, but could one of the winners kindly let us know what wording/phrasing we should be searching for in our inboxes for thought of it going to spam/ asking participating relatives to search through their emails and such? Thank you guys in advance the email has the subject ‘Banksy ‘Sale Ends’ Lottery Update’... but at this stage I’d avoid checking, just in case you have missed it...
Thank you so much I'm not sure if it's already been stated here before, I couldn't find it if so, but could one of the winners kindly let us know what wording/phrasing we should be searching for in our inboxes for thought of it going to spam/ asking participating relatives to search through their emails and such? Thank you guys in advance the email has the subject ‘Banksy ‘Sale Ends’ Lottery Update’... but at this stage I’d avoid checking, just in case you have missed it... |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Chris JL on Nov 28, 2017 0:11:36 GMT 1, Reality check: the average UK gross annual earnings for full-time employees was £27,600 in 2015 (last year of complete data).
But forget about money (since most posters seem to able to afford that over here), I'm more interested in the opinions on the new vs old sale ends print. Superficially, they are the same concept work. But looking at them closely, they are quite peaches and apples (strong contrasts, more dramatic, in a sense gritty, the original one, more nuanced and with reach details, almost etching like looking, and neoclassically balanced, the new release). Any thoughts?
Reality check: the average UK gross annual earnings for full-time employees was £27,600 in 2015 (last year of complete data).
But forget about money (since most posters seem to able to afford that over here), I'm more interested in the opinions on the new vs old sale ends print. Superficially, they are the same concept work. But looking at them closely, they are quite peaches and apples (strong contrasts, more dramatic, in a sense gritty, the original one, more nuanced and with reach details, almost etching like looking, and neoclassically balanced, the new release). Any thoughts?
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Winter on Nov 28, 2017 0:44:44 GMT 1, Reality check: the average UK gross annual earnings for full-time employees was £27,600 in 2015 (last year of complete data). But forget about money (since most posters seem to able to afford that over here), I'm more interested in the opinions on the new vs old sale ends print. Superficially, they are the same concept work. But looking at them closely, they are quite peaches and apples (strong contrasts, more dramatic, in a sense gritty, the original one, more nuanced and with reach details, almost etching like looking, and neoclassically balanced, the new release). Any thoughts?
Impressed with the new cross-hatched version, far better than expected
Reality check: the average UK gross annual earnings for full-time employees was £27,600 in 2015 (last year of complete data). But forget about money (since most posters seem to able to afford that over here), I'm more interested in the opinions on the new vs old sale ends print. Superficially, they are the same concept work. But looking at them closely, they are quite peaches and apples (strong contrasts, more dramatic, in a sense gritty, the original one, more nuanced and with reach details, almost etching like looking, and neoclassically balanced, the new release). Any thoughts? Impressed with the new cross-hatched version, far better than expected |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by jp on Nov 28, 2017 3:59:32 GMT 1, Reality check: the average UK gross annual earnings for full-time employees was £27,600 in 2015 (last year of complete data). But forget about money (since most posters seem to able to afford that over here), I'm more interested in the opinions on the new vs old sale ends print. Superficially, they are the same concept work. But looking at them closely, they are quite peaches and apples (strong contrasts, more dramatic, in a sense gritty, the original one, more nuanced and with reach details, almost etching like looking, and neoclassically balanced, the new release). Any thoughts?
I really like the sketch like details and nuanced shading of the newer version. Clearly, the "sketch master" of team Banksy was responsible for the revised version. This would be the same guy that did "Stop and Search" and "Donuts".
The only thing I don't like is the standing character on the right. He throws the balance of the image right off and triggers my OCD is the worst way (I suppose a little white-out would fix that right up though). The original version has a balance that is more eye-pleasing to me. I'm very optimistic the artist will nail it on the 3rd attempt.
Reality check: the average UK gross annual earnings for full-time employees was £27,600 in 2015 (last year of complete data). But forget about money (since most posters seem to able to afford that over here), I'm more interested in the opinions on the new vs old sale ends print. Superficially, they are the same concept work. But looking at them closely, they are quite peaches and apples (strong contrasts, more dramatic, in a sense gritty, the original one, more nuanced and with reach details, almost etching like looking, and neoclassically balanced, the new release). Any thoughts? I really like the sketch like details and nuanced shading of the newer version. Clearly, the "sketch master" of team Banksy was responsible for the revised version. This would be the same guy that did "Stop and Search" and "Donuts". The only thing I don't like is the standing character on the right. He throws the balance of the image right off and triggers my OCD is the worst way (I suppose a little white-out would fix that right up though). The original version has a balance that is more eye-pleasing to me. I'm very optimistic the artist will nail it on the 3rd attempt. |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Pistol on Nov 28, 2017 7:54:13 GMT 1, ‘I'm very optimistic the artist will nail it on the 3rd attempt’.
Made me chuckle! 😃
‘I'm very optimistic the artist will nail it on the 3rd attempt’.
Made me chuckle! 😃
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by rparducci on Nov 28, 2017 8:31:36 GMT 1, Reality check: the average UK gross annual earnings for full-time employees was £27,600 in 2015 (last year of complete data). But forget about money (since most posters seem to able to afford that over here), I'm more interested in the opinions on the new vs old sale ends print. Superficially, they are the same concept work. But looking at them closely, they are quite peaches and apples (strong contrasts, more dramatic, in a sense gritty, the original one, more nuanced and with reach details, almost etching like looking, and neoclassically balanced, the new release). Any thoughts? I really like the sketch like details and nuanced shading of the newer version. Clearly, the "sketch master" of team Banksy was responsible for the revised version. This would be the same guy that did "Stop and Search" and "Donuts". The only thing I don't like is the standing character on the right. He throws the balance of the image right off and triggers my OCD is the worst way (I suppose a little white-out would fix that right up though). The original version has a balance that is more eye-pleasing to me. I'm very optimistic the artist will nail it on the 3rd attempt.
Yeah! What a loser ,right ?
Reality check: the average UK gross annual earnings for full-time employees was £27,600 in 2015 (last year of complete data). But forget about money (since most posters seem to able to afford that over here), I'm more interested in the opinions on the new vs old sale ends print. Superficially, they are the same concept work. But looking at them closely, they are quite peaches and apples (strong contrasts, more dramatic, in a sense gritty, the original one, more nuanced and with reach details, almost etching like looking, and neoclassically balanced, the new release). Any thoughts? I really like the sketch like details and nuanced shading of the newer version. Clearly, the "sketch master" of team Banksy was responsible for the revised version. This would be the same guy that did "Stop and Search" and "Donuts". The only thing I don't like is the standing character on the right. He throws the balance of the image right off and triggers my OCD is the worst way (I suppose a little white-out would fix that right up though). The original version has a balance that is more eye-pleasing to me. I'm very optimistic the artist will nail it on the 3rd attempt. Yeah! What a loser ,right ? |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by recycle on Nov 28, 2017 9:27:41 GMT 1, I really like the sketch like details and nuanced shading of the newer version. Clearly, the "sketch master" of team Banksy was responsible for the revised version. This would be the same guy that did "Stop and Search" and "Donuts". The only thing I don't like is the standing character on the right. He throws the balance of the image right off and triggers my OCD is the worst way (I suppose a little white-out would fix that right up though). The original version has a balance that is more eye-pleasing to me. I'm very optimistic the artist will nail it on the 3rd attempt.
The thing that I find strange the most is that the final POW release before they close was 'Sale Ends', which they just happened to have on the shelf.
I really like the sketch like details and nuanced shading of the newer version. Clearly, the "sketch master" of team Banksy was responsible for the revised version. This would be the same guy that did "Stop and Search" and "Donuts". The only thing I don't like is the standing character on the right. He throws the balance of the image right off and triggers my OCD is the worst way (I suppose a little white-out would fix that right up though). The original version has a balance that is more eye-pleasing to me. I'm very optimistic the artist will nail it on the 3rd attempt. When I received mine the new character did seem strange a first as it felt more like a reworked new print rather than an old one. I then remembered the Rule of Thirds in photography. Now it makes a bit more sense and to me it feels like its been composed a bit better than the original so can understand the change. More art like than graffiti if that makes sense. The thing that I find strange the most is that the final POW release before they close was 'Sale Ends', which they just happened to have on the shelf. |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Chris JL on Nov 28, 2017 10:31:55 GMT 1, Indeed - the composition now seems to follow the golden ratio. Also I think that it makes an even more explicit reference to the iconography of the deposition of the Christ - this should probably make it more effective (we all react to ingrained imagery) but I’m not sure whether I find it too “pedagogic” now.
Indeed - the composition now seems to follow the golden ratio. Also I think that it makes an even more explicit reference to the iconography of the deposition of the Christ - this should probably make it more effective (we all react to ingrained imagery) but I’m not sure whether I find it too “pedagogic” now.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Coach on Nov 28, 2017 10:44:22 GMT 1, I really like the sketch like details and nuanced shading of the newer version. Clearly, the "sketch master" of team Banksy was responsible for the revised version. This would be the same guy that did "Stop and Search" and "Donuts". The only thing I don't like is the standing character on the right. He throws the balance of the image right off and triggers my OCD is the worst way (I suppose a little white-out would fix that right up though). The original version has a balance that is more eye-pleasing to me. I'm very optimistic the artist will nail it on the 3rd attempt. Yeah! What a loser ,right ?
Please don’t discourage discussion about the actual artwork. It’s a refreshing change from values, delivery delays etc. Unless I have completely missed your point, in which case, my apologies.
I really like the sketch like details and nuanced shading of the newer version. Clearly, the "sketch master" of team Banksy was responsible for the revised version. This would be the same guy that did "Stop and Search" and "Donuts". The only thing I don't like is the standing character on the right. He throws the balance of the image right off and triggers my OCD is the worst way (I suppose a little white-out would fix that right up though). The original version has a balance that is more eye-pleasing to me. I'm very optimistic the artist will nail it on the 3rd attempt. Yeah! What a loser ,right ? Please don’t discourage discussion about the actual artwork. It’s a refreshing change from values, delivery delays etc. Unless I have completely missed your point, in which case, my apologies. |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by jp on Nov 28, 2017 10:47:03 GMT 1, I really like the sketch like details and nuanced shading of the newer version. Clearly, the "sketch master" of team Banksy was responsible for the revised version. This would be the same guy that did "Stop and Search" and "Donuts". The only thing I don't like is the standing character on the right. He throws the balance of the image right off and triggers my OCD is the worst way (I suppose a little white-out would fix that right up though). The original version has a balance that is more eye-pleasing to me. I'm very optimistic the artist will nail it on the 3rd attempt. When I received mine the new character did seem strange a first as it felt more like a reworked new print rather than an old one. I then remembered the Rule of Thirds in photography. Now it makes a bit more sense and to me it feels like its been composed a bit better than the original so can understand the change. More art like than graffiti if that makes sense. The thing that I find strange the most is that the final POW release before they close was 'Sale Ends', which they just happened to have on the shelf.
For the record, I own the original unsigned version, so maybe I am just too used to seeing it the previous way.
I really like the sketch like details and nuanced shading of the newer version. Clearly, the "sketch master" of team Banksy was responsible for the revised version. This would be the same guy that did "Stop and Search" and "Donuts". The only thing I don't like is the standing character on the right. He throws the balance of the image right off and triggers my OCD is the worst way (I suppose a little white-out would fix that right up though). The original version has a balance that is more eye-pleasing to me. I'm very optimistic the artist will nail it on the 3rd attempt. When I received mine the new character did seem strange a first as it felt more like a reworked new print rather than an old one. I then remembered the Rule of Thirds in photography. Now it makes a bit more sense and to me it feels like its been composed a bit better than the original so can understand the change. More art like than graffiti if that makes sense. The thing that I find strange the most is that the final POW release before they close was 'Sale Ends', which they just happened to have on the shelf. The rule of thirds is meant to draw your eyes in to the subject matter of the photo, like in the example you provided above. In the Sale Ends Today image, the subject is the Sale Ends sign, not the man standing. Instead that figure competes with the subject and that is a major reason I find it so distracting. For the record, I own the original unsigned version, so maybe I am just too used to seeing it the previous way. |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by reservenotmet on Nov 28, 2017 11:30:25 GMT 1, Hearing that a guy was in hospital and missed the response window (4/5days?) to place the order.
Hearing that a guy was in hospital and missed the response window (4/5days?) to place the order.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Pysgod on Nov 28, 2017 11:35:31 GMT 1, Hearing that a guy was in hospital and missed the response window (4/5days?) to place the order.
Not having much luck is he...
Hearing that a guy was in hospital and missed the response window (4/5days?) to place the order. Not having much luck is he... |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by reservenotmet on Nov 28, 2017 12:44:31 GMT 1, One way of putting it, if he NHS worker say a junior doctor they work 72 hour shifts in the UK.
One way of putting it, if he NHS worker say a junior doctor they work 72 hour shifts in the UK.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by blenki on Nov 28, 2017 13:05:04 GMT 1, Insane amount of profit from a £500 print.
Insane amount of profit from a £500 print.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Rouen Cathedral on Nov 28, 2017 13:09:39 GMT 1, Indeed - the composition now seems to follow the golden ratio. Also I think that it makes an even more explicit reference to the iconography of the deposition of the Christ - this should probably make it more effective (we all react to ingrained imagery) but I’m not sure whether I find it too “pedagogic” now.
Where do you see the composition showing the golden ratio?
Indeed - the composition now seems to follow the golden ratio. Also I think that it makes an even more explicit reference to the iconography of the deposition of the Christ - this should probably make it more effective (we all react to ingrained imagery) but I’m not sure whether I find it too “pedagogic” now. Where do you see the composition showing the golden ratio? |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Chris JL on Nov 28, 2017 13:28:24 GMT 1, Can’t draw on the image on my phone, but this seems to line up quite well with the weight distribution and the addition of the standing character on the rhs.
Can’t draw on the image on my phone, but this seems to line up quite well with the weight distribution and the addition of the standing character on the rhs. |
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by rparducci on Nov 28, 2017 14:05:42 GMT 1, Yeah! What a loser ,right ? Please don’t discourage discussion about the actual artwork. It’s a refreshing change from values, delivery delays etc. Unless I have completely missed your point, in which case, my apologies.
Read more: urbanartassociation.com/thread/147917/banksy-sale-print-release-lottery?page=34#ixzz4zjNfEpkf
Oh no, my comment was directed to , "I'm very optimistic the artist will nail it on the 3rd attempt.
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which is actually, quite funny 
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by iamzero on Nov 28, 2017 14:09:34 GMT 1, Anyone wondering why the image was reworked as sketch as opposed to the stencil version in LA? Perhaps this was the original?
Also after watching the modern multiples video again they talk about prints not showing up in time and having to make them out in LA, does that mean there are a stack of prints already made that didnt make it to the show on a shelf somewhere?
Anyone wondering why the image was reworked as sketch as opposed to the stencil version in LA? Perhaps this was the original?
Also after watching the modern multiples video again they talk about prints not showing up in time and having to make them out in LA, does that mean there are a stack of prints already made that didnt make it to the show on a shelf somewhere?
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Art! on Nov 28, 2017 14:35:00 GMT 1, Any ideas on how much this will cost to frame to museum quality? Floated, museum glass, simple black wood frame, acid free matte, etc. Not sure if what I've been quoted is crazy or not.. Thanks!
Any ideas on how much this will cost to frame to museum quality? Floated, museum glass, simple black wood frame, acid free matte, etc. Not sure if what I've been quoted is crazy or not.. Thanks!
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Pistol
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Pistol on Nov 28, 2017 14:53:32 GMT 1, Surprised none have the framers have offered a special rate on this?!
Surprised none have the framers have offered a special rate on this?!
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Pistol
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Pistol on Nov 28, 2017 15:20:20 GMT 1, Yeah I reckon your spot on with your pricing but I would have thought if a framer offered a special deal they would do ok. Reading the posts i agree with you most will be framed to a high standard.
Yeah I reckon your spot on with your pricing but I would have thought if a framer offered a special deal they would do ok. Reading the posts i agree with you most will be framed to a high standard.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by touchdowntodd on Nov 28, 2017 15:32:08 GMT 1, im honestly shocked anyone would do this in glass instead of plexi ...
just my 2 cents, but i love plexi
im honestly shocked anyone would do this in glass instead of plexi ...
just my 2 cents, but i love plexi
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by BKBOI on Nov 28, 2017 16:54:16 GMT 1, I would say that museum plexi is not really necessary at this size.
I would say that museum plexi is not really necessary at this size.
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