These are the two photos' I've seen...

i177.photobucket.com/albums/w219/mwjm0/IMG_0002.jpg

i37.photobucket.com/albums/e81/dbaker1980/DSC00194.jpg

I just care if I like it, nothing else. Now I've an anxious wait to find out.

I would argue these look very similar in shade. The first is obviously getting some natural light with the window, while the second is laid flat and on a dark table which is going to make it look different. Someone post hi-res photos of the 'green' shade.

I think the Khaki one is also very nice

maybe thats what the pow printer did, maybe he decided to make a name for himself and be abit creative! i personally think banksy was in a bad mood, pissed people off at pow so abit of payback with a mangy green IMO!!!! i like mine anyways

i think its time yous guys googled "sepia" and/or look up the word on wikipedia.

also, it has been clearly stated that Banksy personally approved all things he signed which is common sense considering he had to look at the damn thing while signing it.

anyone else have any opinions on this? seems to be alot of speculation and shinfo(s**tty info).

here is what i got from sepia tone on wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepia_tone

although the pics on POW seem more like what a crayon colored sepia would be, a true sepia in photography as depicted by the third pic in that link looks like my sepia tone.

at any rate, banksy signed these which by default means he backs it 100% or what is the point of having his signature on it to begin with?

also check out the sepia tone image on this photography website. looks like the print in my tube. forrestcroce.com/Articles/DigitalBlackAndWhite.html#Sepia

according to what i've read sepia tone is not a color, but a tone:

Sepia tones can be achieved as a duotone or tritone, by mixing black and yellow ink; magenta can be added for a touch of rust-like oldness. Yellow and brown also make a good mixture. Because sepia photographs are so heavily associated with the 1880s, almost any photo will seem nostalgic after toning.

Very slight changes to the hue and the curves for its "ink" can drastically change the mood of the image, so you should be able to adjust things to your taste.

Sepia toning can be particularly effective for desert landscapes, old architecture, and "period portraits," with the subject dressed in 19th century gear.

looking forward to finding out about a US supply of art sleeves. i can't afford a damn frame!!!

Rklimek -

1. A fair number of photos have been posted on the various forums and on ebay. Though I completely agree that much of the variation in colour could well be due to the camera work. That's why I said "from the pictures I've seen so far".

It's interesting that POW have confirmed that they used a slightly different ink for part of the run. I therefore won't be too surprised if the photos we've seen already turn out to be pretty representative of the variation in colour. Like you, I'm looking forward to seeing some more pics.

2. I'm fully aware that the Eelus and Warhol colourways are separate editions and therefore not completely analgous. Though, my point was that from the images I've seen so far, the colour variations in the Sepia appear so marked that they could almost be classed as separate editions.

Incidentally, I've commented previously on the inconsistent way in which street art printers use priting terminology (e.g. "edition", "printer's proof") and printing methods. A guild fine art printer certainly would take a very different approach to printing. With the new Banksy prices (both in the primary and secondary market) and with the nature of Banksy buyers changing, I think we'll see more and more people demand fine art standards from POW. Personally, I think this is a shame.

Ben is an awesome printer and I love the rough and ready feel of POW's Banksy prints. The finish is very much in keeping with the street nature of the works. It's part of their charm and it would be a real shame if this was lost.

I do think however that some of the colour variations we've seen so far are more aesthetically pleasing than others and will in the long run be more desirable, irrespective of whether they come from the same "edition" or not. Assuming of course the pictures are representative.

Finally, I'd be very happy with a "Sepia" morons regardless of the colour. All the pictures I've seen are an improvement on the original picture on POW. Plus it's an awesome image

I dont think Ben needs to make a name for himself and a little bit of variety is the spice of life. I dont see people moaning about the other Banksy prints that are different colours.

I don't think there should be any variation in the colours unless it was sold stating that there would be, from what I've seen I prefer the 'copper' toned prints rather than the slightly greenish 'beige' versions, but that's all down to personal opinions. I really don't think you can describe a greenish beige as sepia.

Here's a Black and white pic that I've made sepia, the first pic is how Photoshop does it by using it's built in action>sepia, the others are variations I've created and would all pass as sepia, but the last one breaks the sepia rules and is going green as there's more cyan than magenta in the pic.

You can play around and have it more brown, more red brown, more yellow brown but as soon as it comes away from the warm colours and the cyan takes over from the magenta it goes green.

I think the greatest color variation is due to digital cameras and lighting. flourescent lighting emits a green color on film and perhaps digital as well.

The end result could create the variations spoken of depending on the source of light, angle, type of light, and angle of camera, not to mention camera settings, exposure levels etc.

Pics taken under natural lighting would look different depending on the time of day they were photographed. morning light is higher in the blue spectrum in the morning and higher in orange and red during the afternoon and evening.

These are all things to keep in mind with the photos people take of their prints.

i somehow doubt there is a "green" sepia out there. i just think it looks green compared to the s**t brown image on POWs site. the print i recieved is 1000 times more pleasing to the eye than the image on their site.

Plus, Banksy signed it. I don't understand the concern. It popped into my head for a moment or two while i inspected my print but quickly faded away.

You are Yoda and I am young Luke Skywalker.

I agree. I'm happy i got one. Plus Banksy thought it was worthy of his signature.

yeah the whole thing is completely moronic.

mine is at the high 100's and is in between i guess? i dunno. looks tan.

semantics i reckon.

i think they mailed the prints in order of number, lowest to highest, the way they sold on the site. hence the variation in shipping time.

i'm sorry yours is green and you don't like it. maybe there is someone who likes the green or it becomes worth twice the brown and you can trade it for a tan and some cash/prints. who knows, maybe you won the lotto. like i said, mine is high 100s and not green but i will look at it again today. i have it in the tube because i max'd out my credit card for the print i couldn't afford to begin with. i'm such a moron.

Mine is a low 200, its light brown, cant see any green in it ?

Will get some pics of mine up when its back from the framers.