highinla
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by highinla on Apr 6, 2010 21:38:45 GMT 1, Disregard the VAT question... I am new to this. I figured it out.
Disregard the VAT question... I am new to this. I figured it out.
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Sundowner
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Sundowner on Apr 6, 2010 22:33:10 GMT 1, londonliam has been after one for ages and is a top guy. Suggest you send him a PM.
londonliam has been after one for ages and is a top guy. Suggest you send him a PM.
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highinla
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by highinla on Apr 6, 2010 22:50:02 GMT 1, Thanks for the suggestion =)
Thanks for the suggestion =)
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redfred
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by redfred on Apr 6, 2010 23:23:59 GMT 1, I'me sure I have seen this on a thread some time ago debating its authenticity, maybe "All that glitters is not gold" may be apt! If not get the COA and I owe you an apology!
I'me sure I have seen this on a thread some time ago debating its authenticity, maybe "All that glitters is not gold" may be apt! If not get the COA and I owe you an apology!
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Guest on Apr 6, 2010 23:44:46 GMT 1, Is it numbered? Can't tell from the pic. Does look like a weird signiture tho.
Is it numbered? Can't tell from the pic. Does look like a weird signiture tho.
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highinla
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by highinla on Apr 7, 2010 3:08:34 GMT 1, I'me sure I have seen this on a thread some time ago debating its authenticity, maybe "All that glitters is not gold" may be apt! If not get the COA and I owe you an apology!
you stand correct.... someone started a thread here about my auction when I tried to sell it via eBay around a year ago. Since then I have realized that I won't get its fair market value without the Pest Control paper work.
I'me sure I have seen this on a thread some time ago debating its authenticity, maybe "All that glitters is not gold" may be apt! If not get the COA and I owe you an apology! you stand correct.... someone started a thread here about my auction when I tried to sell it via eBay around a year ago. Since then I have realized that I won't get its fair market value without the Pest Control paper work.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by PUD on Apr 7, 2010 9:49:44 GMT 1,
2 years ago we were getting $2 to the ยฃ1, so $15k would have been approx ยฃ7.5k
2 years ago my signed WSM was worth around ยฃ8k and now its halved
If genuine you have a lovely saught after print there but you have to face up to reality! Wake up and smell the 'expressobeans'! CWSB is a much more desireable print however they are passing hands in private deals for ยฃ7k (and a little less) An A/P Napalm recently listed on Ebay for ยฃ8.5k sold privately for a lot less (I know cuz I bought it) this would easily have fetched ยฃ12 - ยฃ15k 2 years ago!
I know a lot of people have huge amounts 'invested' in art on this forum but trying to artificially push up prices just aint gonna work at the moment, it will only sell for the amount someone is willing to pay.
Best bet is to get the COA & put it in an auction, I reckon you would make ยฃ6k - ยฃ7k, private sale ยฃ6k would be a fair price.
All IMO of course, but recent sales back up my opinion!
2 years ago we were getting $2 to the ยฃ1, so $15k would have been approx ยฃ7.5k 2 years ago my signed WSM was worth around ยฃ8k and now its halved If genuine you have a lovely saught after print there but you have to face up to reality! Wake up and smell the 'expressobeans'! CWSB is a much more desireable print however they are passing hands in private deals for ยฃ7k (and a little less) An A/P Napalm recently listed on Ebay for ยฃ8.5k sold privately for a lot less (I know cuz I bought it) this would easily have fetched ยฃ12 - ยฃ15k 2 years ago! I know a lot of people have huge amounts 'invested' in art on this forum but trying to artificially push up prices just aint gonna work at the moment, it will only sell for the amount someone is willing to pay. Best bet is to get the COA & put it in an auction, I reckon you would make ยฃ6k - ยฃ7k, private sale ยฃ6k would be a fair price. All IMO of course, but recent sales back up my opinion!
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by PUD on Apr 7, 2010 9:55:56 GMT 1, Just looked at the enlargement of your jpg, is the print numbered? It just looks signed to me!? If so, at best this is a 'gift' or 'back door' print, and as such you will never be issued with a COA, in which case you have a nice poster, I would keep it if I were you!
Just looked at the enlargement of your jpg, is the print numbered? It just looks signed to me!? If so, at best this is a 'gift' or 'back door' print, and as such you will never be issued with a COA, in which case you have a nice poster, I would keep it if I were you!
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by glyphic on Apr 7, 2010 10:00:32 GMT 1, On the exchange rate note....I live in the States and I wish the exchange rate was 1=1. The prices for UK prints seem to be really inflated compared to US prints
On the exchange rate note....I live in the States and I wish the exchange rate was 1=1. The prices for UK prints seem to be really inflated compared to US prints
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by DOH on Apr 7, 2010 11:07:00 GMT 1, Just looked at the enlargement of your jpg, is the print numbered? It just looks signed to me!? If so, at best this is a 'gift' or 'back door' print, and as such you will never be issued with a COA, in which case you have a nice poster, I would keep it if I were you!
Just had a look myself, doesn't seem to be numbered!!!!
Just looked at the enlargement of your jpg, is the print numbered? It just looks signed to me!? If so, at best this is a 'gift' or 'back door' print, and as such you will never be issued with a COA, in which case you have a nice poster, I would keep it if I were you! Just had a look myself, doesn't seem to be numbered!!!!
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redfred
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by redfred on Apr 7, 2010 11:30:40 GMT 1, The last time this was debated(when it was on e-bay) concerns were raised regarding the signature as well as the numbering issue, I seem to remember there were more photos which made the signature clearer, It sticks in my mind because of it being wrapped in cellophane and I think there was a gallery involved although it was a while ago and I could be mistaken on that point. At the time the general concensus was to avoid.
The last time this was debated(when it was on e-bay) concerns were raised regarding the signature as well as the numbering issue, I seem to remember there were more photos which made the signature clearer, It sticks in my mind because of it being wrapped in cellophane and I think there was a gallery involved although it was a while ago and I could be mistaken on that point. At the time the general concensus was to avoid.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by dantefires on Apr 7, 2010 11:39:40 GMT 1, Number could be photoshopped, but unlikely...
PUD, congrats on the A/P Napalm, great print and very underrated IMO...
Number could be photoshopped, but unlikely...
PUD, congrats on the A/P Napalm, great print and very underrated IMO...
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Deleted on Apr 7, 2010 12:50:52 GMT 1, Is this a backdoor / gift print? Cash in hand ready to go if its a signed / numbered legit print.
Is this a backdoor / gift print? Cash in hand ready to go if its a signed / numbered legit print.
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highinla
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by highinla on Apr 7, 2010 15:32:34 GMT 1, ... I will not respond to the the comments questioning authenticity of this print... I understand your concern is all I can say. As I mentioned, it is SINGED AND NUMBERED, PURCHASED DIRECTLY FROM POW. Its a loosing battle talking to you guys without the COA.
exactly why it says "Please don't get all crazy and start telling me this is fraud or calling me conartist... I know how pissy and crazy some of you get seeing something this rare without a COA. I will obtain it, and will not be selling the print without it." at the top of this tread.
... I will not respond to the the comments questioning authenticity of this print... I understand your concern is all I can say. As I mentioned, it is SINGED AND NUMBERED, PURCHASED DIRECTLY FROM POW. Its a loosing battle talking to you guys without the COA.
exactly why it says "Please don't get all crazy and start telling me this is fraud or calling me conartist... I know how pissy and crazy some of you get seeing something this rare without a COA. I will obtain it, and will not be selling the print without it." at the top of this tread.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Guest on Apr 7, 2010 15:42:17 GMT 1, I'm sure this was your same response a year ago using another forum name and account.
I'm sure this was your same response a year ago using another forum name and account.
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curiousgeorge
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by curiousgeorge on Apr 7, 2010 15:58:41 GMT 1, Giving you the benefit of the doubt, what stage are you at in getting a COA?
The fact you stated we get pissy without one, might suggest you have been down this road before?
I wouldnt call this rare either, I'm aware of half a dozen changing hands in the last 12 months or so
"... I will not respond to the the comments questioning authenticity of this print..."
way to go in bringing interested parties to the the table
Giving you the benefit of the doubt, what stage are you at in getting a COA?
The fact you stated we get pissy without one, might suggest you have been down this road before?
I wouldnt call this rare either, I'm aware of half a dozen changing hands in the last 12 months or so
"... I will not respond to the the comments questioning authenticity of this print..."
way to go in bringing interested parties to the the table
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by stevieray101 on Apr 7, 2010 16:44:12 GMT 1, way to go in bringing interested parties to the the table
hilarious ;D ;D ;D
when this amount of money is being paid for a print, it's authenticity has to be bullet proof imo. and if you want max cash put it to auction - not ebay.
way to go in bringing interested parties to the the table hilarious ;D ;D ;D when this amount of money is being paid for a print, it's authenticity has to be bullet proof imo. and if you want max cash put it to auction - not ebay.
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highinla
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by highinla on Apr 7, 2010 18:21:03 GMT 1, I'm sure this was your same response a year ago using another forum name and account.
Hey,
Actually, youre wrong. I don't believe in lying or mistreating people in ANY kind of way. Stop being a negative little punk... I thought this is a very tight community, we all share the same interest, why are you so quick to bash someone thats in the same boat as you?
I don't care what you think about my print.... I've gotten almost 2 dozen inquiries in regards to selling this piece without the COA. I've turned them all down until I have the paperwork.
Some of you guys are too quick to start talking $h#t and making assumptions... chill out. I've mentioned that I am not selling without the COA numerous times.
I'm sure this was your same response a year ago using another forum name and account. Hey, Actually, youre wrong. I don't believe in lying or mistreating people in ANY kind of way. Stop being a negative little punk... I thought this is a very tight community, we all share the same interest, why are you so quick to bash someone thats in the same boat as you? I don't care what you think about my print.... I've gotten almost 2 dozen inquiries in regards to selling this piece without the COA. I've turned them all down until I have the paperwork. Some of you guys are too quick to start talking $h#t and making assumptions... chill out. I've mentioned that I am not selling without the COA numerous times.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Deleted on Apr 7, 2010 18:46:24 GMT 1, mate, your not doing yourself any favours. I have been looking for one of these for quite a while, legit or not your response to the forum's justified questions has made me think that your a guy not to be trusted. Its a shame. As i would of bought it in a flash.
mate, your not doing yourself any favours. I have been looking for one of these for quite a while, legit or not your response to the forum's justified questions has made me think that your a guy not to be trusted. Its a shame. As i would of bought it in a flash.
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kennas
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by kennas on Apr 7, 2010 18:58:33 GMT 1, Can you confirm where this print is numbered? If you have had this response before, why even post it up on here until the COA is in hand? Madness........ or worse........
Can you confirm where this print is numbered? If you have had this response before, why even post it up on here until the COA is in hand? Madness........ or worse........
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highinla
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by highinla on Apr 7, 2010 19:00:37 GMT 1, Giving you the benefit of the doubt, what stage are you at in getting a COA? The fact you stated we get pissy without one, might suggest you have been down this road before? I wouldnt call this rare either, I'm aware of half a dozen changing hands in the last 12 months or so "... I will not respond to the the comments questioning authenticity of this print..." way to go in bringing interested parties to the the table
The interest is already at the table... This tread served is purpose.
I am trying to figure out the best way send this piece to POW. I have never shipped anything this expensive, especially overseas. Makes me nervous
I'm torn between buying one of those re-usable plastic shipping tubes and shipping it myself or having it professionally packed and shipped by a carrier.
All suggestions are welcome... I respect what you guys have to say.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt, what stage are you at in getting a COA? The fact you stated we get pissy without one, might suggest you have been down this road before? I wouldnt call this rare either, I'm aware of half a dozen changing hands in the last 12 months or so "... I will not respond to the the comments questioning authenticity of this print..." way to go in bringing interested parties to the the table The interest is already at the table... This tread served is purpose. I am trying to figure out the best way send this piece to POW. I have never shipped anything this expensive, especially overseas. Makes me nervous I'm torn between buying one of those re-usable plastic shipping tubes and shipping it myself or having it professionally packed and shipped by a carrier. All suggestions are welcome... I respect what you guys have to say.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by curiousgeorge on Apr 7, 2010 19:30:27 GMT 1, Is flying over an option?? drop that into the equation with the option to meet at POW and this could be sold in a heartbeat.While a hassle it would save all the sick in stomach feeling waiting for it to arrive in the UK. That said plenty of members based in the US have sent high value without issue
Is flying over an option?? drop that into the equation with the option to meet at POW and this could be sold in a heartbeat.While a hassle it would save all the sick in stomach feeling waiting for it to arrive in the UK. That said plenty of members based in the US have sent high value without issue
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highinla
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by highinla on Apr 7, 2010 19:57:06 GMT 1, Is flying over an option?? drop that into the equation with the option to meet at POW and this could be sold in a heartbeat.While a hassle it would save all the sick in stomach feeling waiting for it to arrive in the UK. That said plenty of members based in the US have sent high value without issue
I actually considered that... I would have to figure out some vacation time if I would take that route. Thanks for the good suggestion.
Is flying over an option?? drop that into the equation with the option to meet at POW and this could be sold in a heartbeat.While a hassle it would save all the sick in stomach feeling waiting for it to arrive in the UK. That said plenty of members based in the US have sent high value without issue I actually considered that... I would have to figure out some vacation time if I would take that route. Thanks for the good suggestion.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by PUD on Apr 7, 2010 20:33:40 GMT 1, Why do you have to take it to POW? Just go to Pest Control on line, send them photos of print, signature & number, give them the prints history, tell them who's name its registered in, pay them ยฃ50 and wait for them to confirm the authenticity!
Perhaps it would have been a whole lot wiser to get the certificate before you started your advertising! Your opening post shows that you knew you were gonna take some stick for this so you only have yourself to blame.
I am sure if you had asked for advice regarding obtaining a COA from this 'tight' community you would have had plenty of assistance!
Why do you have to take it to POW? Just go to Pest Control on line, send them photos of print, signature & number, give them the prints history, tell them who's name its registered in, pay them ยฃ50 and wait for them to confirm the authenticity!
Perhaps it would have been a whole lot wiser to get the certificate before you started your advertising! Your opening post shows that you knew you were gonna take some stick for this so you only have yourself to blame.
I am sure if you had asked for advice regarding obtaining a COA from this 'tight' community you would have had plenty of assistance!
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highinla
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by highinla on Apr 7, 2010 20:47:35 GMT 1, Pest Control needs to see the print in person in order to verify its authenticity... according to the woman who replied to my email.
Pest Control needs to see the print in person in order to verify its authenticity... according to the woman who replied to my email.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by howlinhooker on Apr 7, 2010 20:49:55 GMT 1, THEY MUST THINK IT COULD BE DODGY THEN normally they can tell by good photos sent to them with orig purchase details !!!
THEY MUST THINK IT COULD BE DODGY THEN normally they can tell by good photos sent to them with orig purchase details !!!
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by PUD on Apr 7, 2010 20:59:14 GMT 1, Pest Control needs to see the print in person in order to verify its authenticity... according to the woman who replied to my email.
Have you applied on line or just called them?
Good luck whatever! I would be interested to see you advertise this with COA!
Pest Control needs to see the print in person in order to verify its authenticity... according to the woman who replied to my email. Have you applied on line or just called them? Good luck whatever! I would be interested to see you advertise this with COA!
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by highinla on Apr 7, 2010 20:59:38 GMT 1, oh must they? thanks for your positive feedback buddy.
oh must they? thanks for your positive feedback buddy.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by kennas on Apr 7, 2010 21:00:36 GMT 1, I think to be fair to highinla, if there is ANY doubt at all PC normally ask to see the print n person.
However IMO we are not getting the full info here though, I dont understand why PC would have any doubt at all. If you bought direct, are the original purchaser, it is from the numbered run of 150 etc, it should be simple.
I think to be fair to highinla, if there is ANY doubt at all PC normally ask to see the print n person.
However IMO we are not getting the full info here though, I dont understand why PC would have any doubt at all. If you bought direct, are the original purchaser, it is from the numbered run of 150 etc, it should be simple.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by monkeyart on Apr 7, 2010 21:01:40 GMT 1, Agree with PUD and HH, all I've ever done is upload a couple of pics and given the print history! Really very easy! Seems odd they want to see it in person - having said that I know of a couple of instances when they wanted to view it - was a reason given? Good luck though COA is def the way forward!
Agree with PUD and HH, all I've ever done is upload a couple of pics and given the print history! Really very easy! Seems odd they want to see it in person - having said that I know of a couple of instances when they wanted to view it - was a reason given? Good luck though COA is def the way forward!
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