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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by dodomank01 on Aug 4, 2011 19:28:18 GMT 1, this print was ebay for like forever....months and never sold
this print was ebay for like forever....months and never sold
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by xmyart on Aug 4, 2011 20:06:23 GMT 1, Dodomank I'm not so sure it was. Think I remember him telling me where it came from a month back and it wasnt eBay.
Dodomank I'm not so sure it was. Think I remember him telling me where it came from a month back and it wasnt eBay.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Deleted on Aug 4, 2011 20:06:23 GMT 1, From the photo it is (in my view) abundantly clear that this has not been stored flat. It's curly.
From the photo it is (in my view) abundantly clear that this has not been stored flat. It's curly.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by nimsu on Aug 4, 2011 22:01:04 GMT 1, +1.. I was considering it but between the curling and the right bottom edge I'm scared off. Wonder what the other 3 corners look like
+1.. I was considering it but between the curling and the right bottom edge I'm scared off. Wonder what the other 3 corners look like
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by sohohoho on Aug 4, 2011 22:48:04 GMT 1, The print looks mint to me What is it about the corner that's got you all in hysterics? As for the end curls, he didn't say how long it has been stored flat. If it was removed from a tube and put face up in a plastic sleeve with no weight on top, that would explain them. They're not a problem.
P.S. The last recorded eBay sale went for just under ยฃ2k, s**t frame, no COA. The one currently on eBay has a reserve of ยฃ2,500.
The print looks mint to me What is it about the corner that's got you all in hysterics? As for the end curls, he didn't say how long it has been stored flat. If it was removed from a tube and put face up in a plastic sleeve with no weight on top, that would explain them. They're not a problem. P.S. The last recorded eBay sale went for just under ยฃ2k, s**t frame, no COA. The one currently on eBay has a reserve of ยฃ2,500.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Rolex on Aug 4, 2011 23:05:28 GMT 1, Can somebody explain to me why buying a print framed by a reputed expert is like buying blind, surely the microscopic damaged that you see on prints like this has happened because it isn't framed & therefore has little protection. Most of my prints that ive bought off this forum have been framed by MFM,John jones, & Pauli , so surely any faults if any would have been noted & corrected. Sometimes I think people can be to anal about these prints, & I feel you might never buy anything because what you are looking for doesnt exsist condition wise, especially rarer prints like this. Good luck with the sale bonsai.
Can somebody explain to me why buying a print framed by a reputed expert is like buying blind, surely the microscopic damaged that you see on prints like this has happened because it isn't framed & therefore has little protection. Most of my prints that ive bought off this forum have been framed by MFM,John jones, & Pauli , so surely any faults if any would have been noted & corrected. Sometimes I think people can be to anal about these prints, & I feel you might never buy anything because what you are looking for doesnt exsist condition wise, especially rarer prints like this. Good luck with the sale bonsai.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by nimsu on Aug 4, 2011 23:10:49 GMT 1, Can somebody explain to me why buying a print framed by a reputed expert is like buying blind, surely the microscopic damaged that you see on prints like this has happened because it isn't framed & therefore has little protection. Most of my prints that ive bought off this forum have been framed by MFM,John jones, & Pauli , so surely any faults if any would have been noted & corrected. Sometimes I think people can be to anal about these prints, & I feel you might never buy anything because what you are looking for doesnt exsist condition wise, especially rarer prints like this. Good luck with the sale bonsai.
Before we spend 2k (which for some people could be close to a month's salary), they want to make sure they get their money's worth.. and if a seller says the print is mint and in the next picture it isn't, you already know the seller isn't being truthful.
Can somebody explain to me why buying a print framed by a reputed expert is like buying blind, surely the microscopic damaged that you see on prints like this has happened because it isn't framed & therefore has little protection. Most of my prints that ive bought off this forum have been framed by MFM,John jones, & Pauli , so surely any faults if any would have been noted & corrected. Sometimes I think people can be to anal about these prints, & I feel you might never buy anything because what you are looking for doesnt exsist condition wise, especially rarer prints like this. Good luck with the sale bonsai. Before we spend 2k (which for some people could be close to a month's salary), they want to make sure they get their money's worth.. and if a seller says the print is mint and in the next picture it isn't, you already know the seller isn't being truthful.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by sohohoho on Aug 4, 2011 23:20:22 GMT 1, Before we spend 2k (which for some people could be close to a month's salary), they want to make sure they get their money's worth.. and if a seller says the print is mint and in the next picture it isn't, you already know the seller isn't being truthful.
Why isn't it mint? Please don't tell me you're talking about that nanometre mark dry humping the bottom right corner?!
Before we spend 2k (which for some people could be close to a month's salary), they want to make sure they get their money's worth.. and if a seller says the print is mint and in the next picture it isn't, you already know the seller isn't being truthful. Why isn't it mint? Please don't tell me you're talking about that nanometre mark dry humping the bottom right corner?!
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by chaserawr on Aug 4, 2011 23:21:59 GMT 1, Looks fine to me, If I had the cash I'd pick it up, lovely print.
Looks fine to me, If I had the cash I'd pick it up, lovely print.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by nimsu on Aug 4, 2011 23:57:47 GMT 1, Before we spend 2k (which for some people could be close to a month's salary), they want to make sure they get their money's worth.. and if a seller says the print is mint and in the next picture it isn't, you already know the seller isn't being truthful. Why isn't it mint? Please don't tell me you're talking about that nanometre mark dry humping the bottom right corner?!
and that makes it not mint. simple as that. plus the curling shows it is wasn;t stored flat. that's enough to turn me off.
Before we spend 2k (which for some people could be close to a month's salary), they want to make sure they get their money's worth.. and if a seller says the print is mint and in the next picture it isn't, you already know the seller isn't being truthful. Why isn't it mint? Please don't tell me you're talking about that nanometre mark dry humping the bottom right corner?! and that makes it not mint. simple as that. plus the curling shows it is wasn;t stored flat. that's enough to turn me off.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by sohohoho on Aug 5, 2011 0:21:07 GMT 1, and that makes it not mint. simple as that. plus the curling shows it is wasn;t stored flat. that's enough to turn me off.
if you're in the market for a 2003 banksy print, you might as well pull out now.
and that makes it not mint. simple as that. plus the curling shows it is wasn;t stored flat. that's enough to turn me off. if you're in the market for a 2003 banksy print, you might as well pull out now.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Rolex on Aug 5, 2011 1:24:49 GMT 1, Totally agree isoaflip , I'd like to see all these brand new old stock prints that these people are looking for.( they don't exsist) I think you could pick fault / find fault with any older print & many newer ones.
Totally agree isoaflip , I'd like to see all these brand new old stock prints that these people are looking for.( they don't exsist) I think you could pick fault / find fault with any older print & many newer ones.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by nimsu on Aug 5, 2011 1:30:29 GMT 1, Totally agree isoaflip , I'd like to see all these brand new old stock prints that these people are looking for.( they don't exsist) I think you could pick fault / find fault with any older print & many newer ones.
but would you call it mint next to a shot of a flaw and curling when you say it has been stored flat?
... and maybe i'm wrong on this. just my thoughts. maybe i have things to learn.
Totally agree isoaflip , I'd like to see all these brand new old stock prints that these people are looking for.( they don't exsist) I think you could pick fault / find fault with any older print & many newer ones. but would you call it mint next to a shot of a flaw and curling when you say it has been stored flat? ... and maybe i'm wrong on this. just my thoughts. maybe i have things to learn.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Rolex on Aug 5, 2011 1:41:38 GMT 1, I may be wrong but I would say the word mint would imply as near to brand new as possible, possible being the operative word.
I may be wrong but I would say the word mint would imply as near to brand new as possible, possible being the operative word.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by sohohoho on Aug 5, 2011 1:48:30 GMT 1, I wish you'd stop saying it hasn't been stored flat when it obviously has.
I wish you'd stop saying it hasn't been stored flat when it obviously has.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by nimsu on Aug 5, 2011 1:48:35 GMT 1, I may be wrong but I would say the word mint would imply as near to brand new as possible, possible being the operative word.
and wouldn't this be near mint... since it is certainly possible for it to be more mint.
I may be wrong but I would say the word mint would imply as near to brand new as possible, possible being the operative word. and wouldn't this be near mint... since it is certainly possible for it to be more mint.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by mmmike on Aug 5, 2011 2:08:56 GMT 1, I may be wrong but I would say the word mint would imply as near to brand new as possible, possible being the operative word.
Yes you are wrong. Mint is not a relative term. If it is 10 years old or 1000 years old, mint is perfect. You are less likely to see mint 1000 year old things, that does not make things with slight damage things become mint.
To me the corner would not be a big turn off. What is, is a seller saying it is mint when it isn't. If he said it is in great condition but there is a minor flaw or softness in one corner, that would be great no issue for me.
As is who knows what else is wrong that you can't see in the pics.
I may be wrong but I would say the word mint would imply as near to brand new as possible, possible being the operative word. Yes you are wrong. Mint is not a relative term. If it is 10 years old or 1000 years old, mint is perfect. You are less likely to see mint 1000 year old things, that does not make things with slight damage things become mint. To me the corner would not be a big turn off. What is, is a seller saying it is mint when it isn't. If he said it is in great condition but there is a minor flaw or softness in one corner, that would be great no issue for me. As is who knows what else is wrong that you can't see in the pics.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by BootjackBandit on Aug 5, 2011 4:55:11 GMT 1, yah, what mike said
yah, what mike said
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by misterx on Aug 5, 2011 5:17:40 GMT 1, +1.. I was considering it but between the curling and the right bottom edge I'm scared off. Wonder what the other 3 corners look like
If your averse to curling, do you get all your prints shipped flat??
Ever received a print in a tube? It had curling....
Must make it awfully hard to buy art with that outlook.
Nice print mate...where in OZ are you???
+1.. I was considering it but between the curling and the right bottom edge I'm scared off. Wonder what the other 3 corners look like If your averse to curling, do you get all your prints shipped flat?? Ever received a print in a tube? It had curling.... Must make it awfully hard to buy art with that outlook. Nice print mate...where in OZ are you???
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Harveyn on Aug 5, 2011 7:58:50 GMT 1, I think I must be missing something here. Most people who know me know that I am fairly anal about damage or potential damage to art but I do not get this thread.
What is wrong with this print.
Are people seriously calling this damage? That will flatten out in hours under weight if you are actually concerned enough about it.
As for the slight curl, again I do not get it. Maybe the print has been stored flat and recently shipped in a tube and hence the slight curl. What is the issue with that? Not one print you receive in a tube would not look like this. The main issue is whether it has been stored in a tube for a long enough period to have damaged the print. I see no evidence of ripples (I might ask a few more questions and for a few more images) and therefore it is safe to assume this has been stored flat most of its life.
This print looks mint to me.
I think I must be missing something here. Most people who know me know that I am fairly anal about damage or potential damage to art but I do not get this thread. What is wrong with this print. Are people seriously calling this damage? That will flatten out in hours under weight if you are actually concerned enough about it. As for the slight curl, again I do not get it. Maybe the print has been stored flat and recently shipped in a tube and hence the slight curl. What is the issue with that? Not one print you receive in a tube would not look like this. The main issue is whether it has been stored in a tube for a long enough period to have damaged the print. I see no evidence of ripples (I might ask a few more questions and for a few more images) and therefore it is safe to assume this has been stored flat most of its life. This print looks mint to me.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Heavyconsumer on Aug 5, 2011 8:05:16 GMT 1, mint is mint. any flaw, however minor and whatever its nature, should preclude the term mint from an accurate description imo. mint does not mean almost new or in excellent or very good condition (either in consideration of or irrespective of age). this has always been my take on it anyway. i'm not suggesting this print is not in good shape (i would love to be its new owner, it looks very nice), just reacting to what seems to be debate over something i've always thought was very non-debatable. if it ain't perfect, mint should not be used to describe it imo.
mint is mint. any flaw, however minor and whatever its nature, should preclude the term mint from an accurate description imo. mint does not mean almost new or in excellent or very good condition (either in consideration of or irrespective of age). this has always been my take on it anyway. i'm not suggesting this print is not in good shape (i would love to be its new owner, it looks very nice), just reacting to what seems to be debate over something i've always thought was very non-debatable. if it ain't perfect, mint should not be used to describe it imo.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by des77 on Aug 5, 2011 8:05:32 GMT 1, I agree, everyone needs to get a grip. Supposedly one of the most sought after prints is posted for sale and the guy gets nothing but grief lol
I agree, everyone needs to get a grip. Supposedly one of the most sought after prints is posted for sale and the guy gets nothing but grief lol
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by skitchy on Aug 5, 2011 10:03:57 GMT 1, yes its all very petty too many jealous people! after all this is one of the most sought after banksy prints. keep it dude!
yes its all very petty too many jealous people! after all this is one of the most sought after banksy prints. keep it dude!
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by bonsai on Aug 5, 2011 10:33:03 GMT 1, Well what a difference a days make just chimed in again. Sorry for the delay.
Look I have nothing to hide here is a link to some more detailed pics. The print has always been kept in this portfolio sleeve. So much so the previous owner refused to send the print rolled for the short trip from Perth to Ballina.
Take a look PM me with questions or offers. I hope a few opinions will not derail the integrity of the thread.
s620.photobucket.com/albums/tt290/bonsai_tim/STREET%20ART/
Well what a difference a days make just chimed in again. Sorry for the delay. Look I have nothing to hide here is a link to some more detailed pics. The print has always been kept in this portfolio sleeve. So much so the previous owner refused to send the print rolled for the short trip from Perth to Ballina. Take a look PM me with questions or offers. I hope a few opinions will not derail the integrity of the thread. s620.photobucket.com/albums/tt290/bonsai_tim/STREET%20ART/
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by bonsai on Aug 5, 2011 10:49:29 GMT 1, Will take some more detailed pics of the corners in the morning.
I understand both points of view on the use of "mint" and understand each persons interpretation may vary.
... please refrain from descending this thread into Chaos !!! ;D
Will take some more detailed pics of the corners in the morning.
I understand both points of view on the use of "mint" and understand each persons interpretation may vary.
... please refrain from descending this thread into Chaos !!! ;D
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by mattgold on Aug 5, 2011 15:31:02 GMT 1, I have seen MUCH worse 'damage' eviscerated by a good paper guy... 'mint' ok, maybe that word gets people up in arms... but this is nothing to complain about.
I have seen MUCH worse 'damage' eviscerated by a good paper guy... 'mint' ok, maybe that word gets people up in arms... but this is nothing to complain about.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by Deleted on Aug 5, 2011 19:39:23 GMT 1, Good of the seller to come in with some clarification. I'd say unless you've had something framed since purchase, in the dark then this might be amongst the best examples of this print?
It's long been a favourite of mine and if I had the funds I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Good of the seller to come in with some clarification. I'd say unless you've had something framed since purchase, in the dark then this might be amongst the best examples of this print?
It's long been a favourite of mine and if I had the funds I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by daveart on Aug 5, 2011 20:26:18 GMT 1, Hi Bonsai .. despite the damage that pulls the value of this print towards that of a loaf of bread.... i may still be interested.. i sent you a PM.
Everyone is making interesting points -- mint is mint -- but is mint also 'how it came from the artist' what if it had a printing flaw or bend in the paper or a drop out in the signature. if it was that way when it left the artists hands wouldn't that be 'mint' i have a few prints from artists that arrived in the tube with corner bends/etc.. and struggled with - do you send it back and endure the hassle - or accept that that's what the artist sent you. Could a stop & search ever be called mint if it indeed has a printing error on the thumb ? well yes.. as that's how it came from the artist. its mint. flaw and all. i like the passion some of you guys have.. makes the board worth reading -
Hi Bonsai .. despite the damage that pulls the value of this print towards that of a loaf of bread.... i may still be interested.. i sent you a PM.
Everyone is making interesting points -- mint is mint -- but is mint also 'how it came from the artist' what if it had a printing flaw or bend in the paper or a drop out in the signature. if it was that way when it left the artists hands wouldn't that be 'mint' i have a few prints from artists that arrived in the tube with corner bends/etc.. and struggled with - do you send it back and endure the hassle - or accept that that's what the artist sent you. Could a stop & search ever be called mint if it indeed has a printing error on the thumb ? well yes.. as that's how it came from the artist. its mint. flaw and all. i like the passion some of you guys have.. makes the board worth reading -
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by misterx on Aug 5, 2011 21:50:32 GMT 1, Ballina eh? Down the road from you on the GC!!
Ballina eh? Down the road from you on the GC!!
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Banksy Laugh Now Print, by kingofprussia on Aug 5, 2011 23:58:53 GMT 1, I still can't believe this is still available. IMO this is a Banksy classic at a reasonable price. Of course this comes from a proud owner of this exact print and I thoroughly enjoy it everyday I turn my living room light on in the morning.
Do yourself a favor and pony up for this badboy!!
I still can't believe this is still available. IMO this is a Banksy classic at a reasonable price. Of course this comes from a proud owner of this exact print and I thoroughly enjoy it everyday I turn my living room light on in the morning. Do yourself a favor and pony up for this badboy!!
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