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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by Fake on Dec 18, 2017 9:09:46 GMT 1, I doubt the BBC would have shown a documentary about it if he'd just thrown a party. BBC and Danny Boyle aside, what was the concept behind the actual piece of art? Was the concept to bring people together? He staged a slightly banksy themed nativity play yes. None of it makes sense.
His goal was to create awareness about the problems in the israel - palistine conflict. I think he succeeded ;-)
I doubt the BBC would have shown a documentary about it if he'd just thrown a party. BBC and Danny Boyle aside, what was the concept behind the actual piece of art? Was the concept to bring people together? He staged a slightly banksy themed nativity play yes. None of it makes sense. His goal was to create awareness about the problems in the israel - palistine conflict. I think he succeeded ;-)
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by annar50 on Dec 18, 2017 9:46:50 GMT 1, Turned off after 30mins .. what a pile of crap
Turned off after 30mins .. what a pile of crap
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by crashwilliams on Dec 18, 2017 9:49:13 GMT 1, BBC and Danny Boyle aside, what was the concept behind the actual piece of art? Was the concept to bring people together? He staged a slightly banksy themed nativity play yes. None of it makes sense. His goal was to create awareness about the problems in the israel - palistine conflict. I think he succeeded ;-)
Exactly this
BBC and Danny Boyle aside, what was the concept behind the actual piece of art? Was the concept to bring people together? He staged a slightly banksy themed nativity play yes. None of it makes sense. His goal was to create awareness about the problems in the israel - palistine conflict. I think he succeeded ;-) Exactly this
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by Fะฏ on Dec 18, 2017 9:49:55 GMT 1, Turned off after 30mins .. what a pile of crap
An alarm just sounded at Nexโs shrine.
Turned off after 30mins .. what a pile of crap An alarm just sounded at Nexโs shrine.
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by My Name is Frank on Dec 18, 2017 9:58:28 GMT 1, Thought it was actually very good. You could see that banksy clearly wanted a stunt nativity, Boyle resisted and went to some length to try and give it some purpose and meaning by understanding the people who live there.
By engaging with locals and banksy, I think Boyle managed to create something that was enjoyable for everyone and for a short period of time allowed everyone to forget where they are and just enjoy a nativity.
I think the Balfour element may have happened as a result of Boyle ensuring the alternativity was actually for locals rather than a stunt event for the press.
Film was good at showing A side to Palestine that is rarely shown, everyday people getting on with everyday lives.
Thought it was actually very good. You could see that banksy clearly wanted a stunt nativity, Boyle resisted and went to some length to try and give it some purpose and meaning by understanding the people who live there.
By engaging with locals and banksy, I think Boyle managed to create something that was enjoyable for everyone and for a short period of time allowed everyone to forget where they are and just enjoy a nativity.
I think the Balfour element may have happened as a result of Boyle ensuring the alternativity was actually for locals rather than a stunt event for the press.
Film was good at showing A side to Palestine that is rarely shown, everyday people getting on with everyday lives.
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by Fuzzyduck121 on Dec 18, 2017 10:54:39 GMT 1, ^^^ +1
^^^ +1
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by Chris JL on Dec 18, 2017 11:05:58 GMT 1, As an operation to smuggle a (family friendly) documentary on the illegal wall issue on prime time TV, this was definitively a success.
Most of the rhetoric we are exposed to in the West depicts Palestinians as dangerous and unreasonable - when did you last see footage from there without the Kalashnikovs wielding Hamas?
Here instead the narration was about very normal people striving for a normal lifestyle - nativity school play included - despite living under apartheid in the biggest open air jail on the planet.
Hence, if found it quite good, and at moments even touching and poetic.
As an operation to smuggle a (family friendly) documentary on the illegal wall issue on prime time TV, this was definitively a success.
Most of the rhetoric we are exposed to in the West depicts Palestinians as dangerous and unreasonable - when did you last see footage from there without the Kalashnikovs wielding Hamas?
Here instead the narration was about very normal people striving for a normal lifestyle - nativity school play included - despite living under apartheid in the biggest open air jail on the planet.
Hence, if found it quite good, and at moments even touching and poetic.
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by Chris JL on Dec 18, 2017 11:06:49 GMT 1, PS and it made me feel like going back to the WOH again ๐
PS and it made me feel like going back to the WOH again ๐
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by rockbeer on Dec 18, 2017 12:19:04 GMT 1, His goal was to create awareness about the problems in the israel - palistine conflict. I think he succeeded ;-) Yes, that's exactly what I was trying to point out!
His goal was to create awareness about the problems in the israel - palistine conflict. I think he succeeded ;-) Yes, that's exactly what I was trying to point out!
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by Carl Cashman on Dec 18, 2017 13:10:31 GMT 1, Other than making millions of people more aware of the situation in Palestine.. what were people expecting ?
Other than making millions of people more aware of the situation in Palestine.. what were people expecting ?
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by treweman on Dec 18, 2017 16:24:33 GMT 1, chrisjl and alsbabar .... well written. I couldnโt agree more.
What we saw yesterday (and yes, Iโm in the U.S. and with one click on the link provided on several threads by UAA members, I watched with no issues in real time) was/is brilliant. I suspect that the nativity play, while wonderful, will not be as powerful as this, the behind the scenes documentary, for all the reasons that chrisjl and alsbabar pointed out. The nativity play itself is like art within art, and shatters more stereotypes for those who think that Palestinians are hell bent on exterminating all Christians and Jews. An hour long documentary with performance art at its center, that is both highly charged politics and non-threatening at the same time. Itโs hard to hate children being children, and it is eye opening that parents, who have suffered an incredible injustice, arenโt teaching their children to try to change the system that created the injustice, but are shielding them from it.
chrisjl and alsbabar .... well written. I couldnโt agree more.
What we saw yesterday (and yes, Iโm in the U.S. and with one click on the link provided on several threads by UAA members, I watched with no issues in real time) was/is brilliant. I suspect that the nativity play, while wonderful, will not be as powerful as this, the behind the scenes documentary, for all the reasons that chrisjl and alsbabar pointed out. The nativity play itself is like art within art, and shatters more stereotypes for those who think that Palestinians are hell bent on exterminating all Christians and Jews. An hour long documentary with performance art at its center, that is both highly charged politics and non-threatening at the same time. Itโs hard to hate children being children, and it is eye opening that parents, who have suffered an incredible injustice, arenโt teaching their children to try to change the system that created the injustice, but are shielding them from it.
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by tab1 on Dec 18, 2017 16:34:55 GMT 1, Playing with fire ?
Playing with fire ?
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by case on Dec 18, 2017 17:45:45 GMT 1, Missed it yesterday. Is it still available somewhere for non uk residents?
Missed it yesterday. Is it still available somewhere for non uk residents?
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by rpaz720 on Dec 18, 2017 18:11:29 GMT 1, Missed it yesterday. Is it still available somewhere for non uk residents? Yea I'd love to watch as well
Missed it yesterday. Is it still available somewhere for non uk residents? Yea I'd love to watch as well
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by Con Art Studio on Dec 18, 2017 18:23:33 GMT 1, Missed it yesterday. Is it still available somewhere for non uk residents? Yea I'd love to watch as well quick search found this on youtube
Missed it yesterday. Is it still available somewhere for non uk residents? Yea I'd love to watch as well quick search found this on youtube
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by Snakes on Dec 18, 2017 19:25:29 GMT 1, I would concur with that.
I would concur with that.
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by rpaz720 on Dec 18, 2017 19:26:09 GMT 1, Yea I'd love to watch as well quick search found this on youtube Thanks!
Yea I'd love to watch as well quick search found this on youtube Thanks!
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 20:52:13 GMT 1, Iโve not read any comments on here, so Iโve no idea on how last nightโs show was received. My take is that using children was wrong, as it most definitely was with the Balfour stunt, which seemed even more crass than Iโd originally thought. As mentioned a few times in the show, these are children that have no concept of politics or in some cases that there is a wall at all.
Chances are the parents only agreed for their kids taking part because of who Danny Boyle is, as it was a once in a life time chance for those young people to be in a Boyle production. Interesting too that there seemed to be mixed views about Banksy from the locals too.
While Banksy seems to have admirable intentions, I genuinely think that heโd do well to have more people like Boyle reigning him back. That Jo Brookes certainly wasnโt and seemed like she was loving the Balfour thing, even though the locals were storming it. The other thought I had was it all seemed to me a bit like Bono syndrome of a multi millionaire imposing their own thoughts and views whether theyโre right or wrong. I get that he wants to help the situation, but these kind of stunts actually make me wonder if Iโm really that keen on Banksy at all.
Iโve not read any comments on here, so Iโve no idea on how last nightโs show was received. My take is that using children was wrong, as it most definitely was with the Balfour stunt, which seemed even more crass than Iโd originally thought. As mentioned a few times in the show, these are children that have no concept of politics or in some cases that there is a wall at all.
Chances are the parents only agreed for their kids taking part because of who Danny Boyle is, as it was a once in a life time chance for those young people to be in a Boyle production. Interesting too that there seemed to be mixed views about Banksy from the locals too.
While Banksy seems to have admirable intentions, I genuinely think that heโd do well to have more people like Boyle reigning him back. That Jo Brookes certainly wasnโt and seemed like she was loving the Balfour thing, even though the locals were storming it. The other thought I had was it all seemed to me a bit like Bono syndrome of a multi millionaire imposing their own thoughts and views whether theyโre right or wrong. I get that he wants to help the situation, but these kind of stunts actually make me wonder if Iโm really that keen on Banksy at all.
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by Nuno on Dec 18, 2017 21:07:30 GMT 1, Iโve not read any comments on here, so Iโve no idea on how last nightโs show was received. My take is that using children was wrong, as it most definitely was with the Balfour stunt, which seemed even more crass than Iโd originally thought. As mentioned a few times in the show, these are children that have no concept of politics or in some cases that there is a wall at all. Chances are the parents only agreed for their kids taking part because of who Danny Boyle is, as it was a once in a life time chance for those young people to be in a Boyle production. Interesting too that there seemed to be mixed views about Banksy from the locals too. While Banksy seems to have admirable intentions, I genuinely think that heโd do well to have more people like Boyle reigning him back. That Jo Brookes certainly wasnโt and seemed like she was loving the Balfour thing, even though the locals were storming it. The other thought I had was it all seemed to me a bit like Bono syndrome of a multi millionaire imposing their own thoughts and views whether theyโre right or wrong. I get that he wants to help the situation, but these kind of stunts actually make me wonder if Iโm really that keen on Banksy at all.
Interesting view. Have you been? The seats at the show were filled with family and friends of those performing. Having spoken with some and merely observing some reactions I think saying including children was wrong is a little unfair on Banksy/Boyle. They were all incredibly proud to be involved in a once in a life time event that could prove to be life changing for them individually or as a whole...?!
Iโve not read any comments on here, so Iโve no idea on how last nightโs show was received. My take is that using children was wrong, as it most definitely was with the Balfour stunt, which seemed even more crass than Iโd originally thought. As mentioned a few times in the show, these are children that have no concept of politics or in some cases that there is a wall at all. Chances are the parents only agreed for their kids taking part because of who Danny Boyle is, as it was a once in a life time chance for those young people to be in a Boyle production. Interesting too that there seemed to be mixed views about Banksy from the locals too. While Banksy seems to have admirable intentions, I genuinely think that heโd do well to have more people like Boyle reigning him back. That Jo Brookes certainly wasnโt and seemed like she was loving the Balfour thing, even though the locals were storming it. The other thought I had was it all seemed to me a bit like Bono syndrome of a multi millionaire imposing their own thoughts and views whether theyโre right or wrong. I get that he wants to help the situation, but these kind of stunts actually make me wonder if Iโm really that keen on Banksy at all. Interesting view. Have you been? The seats at the show were filled with family and friends of those performing. Having spoken with some and merely observing some reactions I think saying including children was wrong is a little unfair on Banksy/Boyle. They were all incredibly proud to be involved in a once in a life time event that could prove to be life changing for them individually or as a whole...?!
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by Con Art Studio on Dec 18, 2017 21:14:07 GMT 1, Iโve not read any comments on here, so Iโve no idea on how last nightโs show was received. My take is that using children was wrong, as it most definitely was with the Balfour stunt, which seemed even more crass than Iโd originally thought. As mentioned a few times in the show, these are children that have no concept of politics or in some cases that there is a wall at all. Chances are the parents only agreed for their kids taking part because of who Danny Boyle is, as it was a once in a life time chance for those young people to be in a Boyle production. Interesting too that there seemed to be mixed views about Banksy from the locals too. While Banksy seems to have admirable intentions, I genuinely think that heโd do well to have more people like Boyle reigning him back. That Jo Brookes certainly wasnโt and seemed like she was loving the Balfour thing, even though the locals were storming it. The other thought I had was it all seemed to me a bit like Bono syndrome of a multi millionaire imposing their own thoughts and views whether theyโre right or wrong. I get that he wants to help the situation, but these kind of stunts actually make me wonder if Iโm really that keen on Banksy at all. my take is that you didn't watch it... if you had, you would have known the part about using children was discussed in it and the play was really organized and run by a local acting teacher. These children and their parents have no idea who Danny Boyle is.
you're not wrong to have that opinion, but I would suggest watching it first before forming your opinion about it
Iโve not read any comments on here, so Iโve no idea on how last nightโs show was received. My take is that using children was wrong, as it most definitely was with the Balfour stunt, which seemed even more crass than Iโd originally thought. As mentioned a few times in the show, these are children that have no concept of politics or in some cases that there is a wall at all. Chances are the parents only agreed for their kids taking part because of who Danny Boyle is, as it was a once in a life time chance for those young people to be in a Boyle production. Interesting too that there seemed to be mixed views about Banksy from the locals too. While Banksy seems to have admirable intentions, I genuinely think that heโd do well to have more people like Boyle reigning him back. That Jo Brookes certainly wasnโt and seemed like she was loving the Balfour thing, even though the locals were storming it. The other thought I had was it all seemed to me a bit like Bono syndrome of a multi millionaire imposing their own thoughts and views whether theyโre right or wrong. I get that he wants to help the situation, but these kind of stunts actually make me wonder if Iโm really that keen on Banksy at all. my take is that you didn't watch it... if you had, you would have known the part about using children was discussed in it and the play was really organized and run by a local acting teacher. These children and their parents have no idea who Danny Boyle is. you're not wrong to have that opinion, but I would suggest watching it first before forming your opinion about it
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by oldraver on Dec 18, 2017 21:26:40 GMT 1, a few thoughts: 1. man, that piano version of Massive Attackโs โTeardropโ was haunting and itโs inclusion (along with the symbol in the โfireplaceโ inside the hotel) really plays up the โBanksy is 3Dโ narrative; 2. seeing the workers lining up at 5am and crossing over to the other side was heartbreaking; 3. anyone have any idea what Large OG piece is behind Wisamโs head in his office? 4. the live image of the โgirl (running) with balloonโ, while obvious, was still so powerful; 5. the girl who is the main singer/Mary in the play is going to be a star; 6. loved it, thank you Banksy - a new holiday classic! Fortunately last nights filmed moment of the workers walking through checkpoint 300 was a lot smoother than the average day, Sadly this news segment is an eye opener on what its really like.
and i have walked through this caged walkway, it really has the feeling of a cattle market.
a few thoughts: 1. man, that piano version of Massive Attackโs โTeardropโ was haunting and itโs inclusion (along with the symbol in the โfireplaceโ inside the hotel) really plays up the โBanksy is 3Dโ narrative; 2. seeing the workers lining up at 5am and crossing over to the other side was heartbreaking; 3. anyone have any idea what Large OG piece is behind Wisamโs head in his office? 4. the live image of the โgirl (running) with balloonโ, while obvious, was still so powerful; 5. the girl who is the main singer/Mary in the play is going to be a star; 6. loved it, thank you Banksy - a new holiday classic! Fortunately last nights filmed moment of the workers walking through checkpoint 300 was a lot smoother than the average day, Sadly this news segment is an eye opener on what its really like. and i have walked through this caged walkway, it really has the feeling of a cattle market.
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 21:26:55 GMT 1, Iโve not read any comments on here, so Iโve no idea on how last nightโs show was received. My take is that using children was wrong, as it most definitely was with the Balfour stunt, which seemed even more crass than Iโd originally thought. As mentioned a few times in the show, these are children that have no concept of politics or in some cases that there is a wall at all. Chances are the parents only agreed for their kids taking part because of who Danny Boyle is, as it was a once in a life time chance for those young people to be in a Boyle production. Interesting too that there seemed to be mixed views about Banksy from the locals too. While Banksy seems to have admirable intentions, I genuinely think that heโd do well to have more people like Boyle reigning him back. That Jo Brookes certainly wasnโt and seemed like she was loving the Balfour thing, even though the locals were storming it. The other thought I had was it all seemed to me a bit like Bono syndrome of a multi millionaire imposing their own thoughts and views whether theyโre right or wrong. I get that he wants to help the situation, but these kind of stunts actually make me wonder if Iโm really that keen on Banksy at all. my take is that you didn't watch it... if you had, you would have known the part about using children was discussed in it and the play was really organized and run by a local acting teacher. These children and their parents have no idea who Danny Boyle is. you're not wrong to have that opinion, but I would suggest watching it first before forming your opinion about it Not sure thereโs much point responding to your comment. But, yes, I did watch it. Did you not pick up the reticence of the drama teacher that you mention? Suggest you try watching again more closely. An interesting question to have asked the parents would have been would you have preferred the play in a) a school assembly hall or b) a wealthy English artistโs hotel car park overlooked by snipers. Iโm sure youโre right that the kids had no idea who Danny Boyle is, but Iโm sure when the parents are told a world famous Hollywood director is running it they may feel itโs hard to say no.
Iโve not read any comments on here, so Iโve no idea on how last nightโs show was received. My take is that using children was wrong, as it most definitely was with the Balfour stunt, which seemed even more crass than Iโd originally thought. As mentioned a few times in the show, these are children that have no concept of politics or in some cases that there is a wall at all. Chances are the parents only agreed for their kids taking part because of who Danny Boyle is, as it was a once in a life time chance for those young people to be in a Boyle production. Interesting too that there seemed to be mixed views about Banksy from the locals too. While Banksy seems to have admirable intentions, I genuinely think that heโd do well to have more people like Boyle reigning him back. That Jo Brookes certainly wasnโt and seemed like she was loving the Balfour thing, even though the locals were storming it. The other thought I had was it all seemed to me a bit like Bono syndrome of a multi millionaire imposing their own thoughts and views whether theyโre right or wrong. I get that he wants to help the situation, but these kind of stunts actually make me wonder if Iโm really that keen on Banksy at all. my take is that you didn't watch it... if you had, you would have known the part about using children was discussed in it and the play was really organized and run by a local acting teacher. These children and their parents have no idea who Danny Boyle is. you're not wrong to have that opinion, but I would suggest watching it first before forming your opinion about it Not sure thereโs much point responding to your comment. But, yes, I did watch it. Did you not pick up the reticence of the drama teacher that you mention? Suggest you try watching again more closely. An interesting question to have asked the parents would have been would you have preferred the play in a) a school assembly hall or b) a wealthy English artistโs hotel car park overlooked by snipers. Iโm sure youโre right that the kids had no idea who Danny Boyle is, but Iโm sure when the parents are told a world famous Hollywood director is running it they may feel itโs hard to say no.
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 21:48:17 GMT 1, Iโve not read any comments on here, so Iโve no idea on how last nightโs show was received. My take is that using children was wrong, as it most definitely was with the Balfour stunt, which seemed even more crass than Iโd originally thought. As mentioned a few times in the show, these are children that have no concept of politics or in some cases that there is a wall at all. Chances are the parents only agreed for their kids taking part because of who Danny Boyle is, as it was a once in a life time chance for those young people to be in a Boyle production. Interesting too that there seemed to be mixed views about Banksy from the locals too. While Banksy seems to have admirable intentions, I genuinely think that heโd do well to have more people like Boyle reigning him back. That Jo Brookes certainly wasnโt and seemed like she was loving the Balfour thing, even though the locals were storming it. The other thought I had was it all seemed to me a bit like Bono syndrome of a multi millionaire imposing their own thoughts and views whether theyโre right or wrong. I get that he wants to help the situation, but these kind of stunts actually make me wonder if Iโm really that keen on Banksy at all.
I think I agree with a lot of this. I kept thinking how lucky it was that Danny Boyle was the man chosen...he was the real star of the show for me.
Iโve not read any comments on here, so Iโve no idea on how last nightโs show was received. My take is that using children was wrong, as it most definitely was with the Balfour stunt, which seemed even more crass than Iโd originally thought. As mentioned a few times in the show, these are children that have no concept of politics or in some cases that there is a wall at all. Chances are the parents only agreed for their kids taking part because of who Danny Boyle is, as it was a once in a life time chance for those young people to be in a Boyle production. Interesting too that there seemed to be mixed views about Banksy from the locals too. While Banksy seems to have admirable intentions, I genuinely think that heโd do well to have more people like Boyle reigning him back. That Jo Brookes certainly wasnโt and seemed like she was loving the Balfour thing, even though the locals were storming it. The other thought I had was it all seemed to me a bit like Bono syndrome of a multi millionaire imposing their own thoughts and views whether theyโre right or wrong. I get that he wants to help the situation, but these kind of stunts actually make me wonder if Iโm really that keen on Banksy at all. I think I agree with a lot of this. I kept thinking how lucky it was that Danny Boyle was the man chosen...he was the real star of the show for me.
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by Pysgod on Dec 18, 2017 21:58:38 GMT 1, I think I agree with a lot of this. I kept thinking how lucky it was that Danny Boyle was the man chosen...he was the real star of the show for me. We haven't seen 'the show' yet that is on wednesday, Its the children that are the real stars
I think I agree with a lot of this. I kept thinking how lucky it was that Danny Boyle was the man chosen...he was the real star of the show for me. We haven't seen 'the show' yet that is on wednesday, Its the children that are the real stars
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 22:18:16 GMT 1, I think I agree with a lot of this. I kept thinking how lucky it was that Danny Boyle was the man chosen...he was the real star of the show for me. We haven't seen 'the show' yet that is on wednesday,ย Its the children that are the real stars
Second episode performance is on iplayer. No need to wait.
I think I agree with a lot of this. I kept thinking how lucky it was that Danny Boyle was the man chosen...he was the real star of the show for me. We haven't seen 'the show' yet that is on wednesday,ย Its the children that are the real stars Second episode performance is on iplayer. No need to wait.
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Dec 18, 2017 22:19:58 GMT 1, It was okay I thought and at least he's keeping to his cause.. didn't agree with the kids street party, in contridicted the part at the end where they harped on about most parents keep their kids from the wall? But there were loads of kids there for that party.
It was okay I thought and at least he's keeping to his cause.. didn't agree with the kids street party, in contridicted the part at the end where they harped on about most parents keep their kids from the wall? But there were loads of kids there for that party.
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by ferg on Dec 18, 2017 22:24:11 GMT 1, Other than making millions of people more aware of the situation in Palestine.. what were people expecting ? Canโt believe there can be many who think the Israelis funded by the Americans look good tear gasing and firing rubber bullits at children just like this in the play outrageous that wall needs to come down.
Other than making millions of people more aware of the situation in Palestine.. what were people expecting ? Canโt believe there can be many who think the Israelis funded by the Americans look good tear gasing and firing rubber bullits at children just like this in the play outrageous that wall needs to come down.
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Chris JL
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by Chris JL on Dec 18, 2017 22:57:45 GMT 1, Iโve not read any comments on here, so Iโve no idea on how last nightโs show was received. My take is that using children was wrong, as it most definitely was with the Balfour stunt, which seemed even more crass than Iโd originally thought. As mentioned a few times in the show, these are children that have no concept of politics or in some cases that there is a wall at all. Chances are the parents only agreed for their kids taking part because of who Danny Boyle is, as it was a once in a life time chance for those young people to be in a Boyle production. Interesting too that there seemed to be mixed views about Banksy from the locals too. While Banksy seems to have admirable intentions, I genuinely think that heโd do well to have more people like Boyle reigning him back. That Jo Brookes certainly wasnโt and seemed like she was loving the Balfour thing, even though the locals were storming it. The other thought I had was it all seemed to me a bit like Bono syndrome of a multi millionaire imposing their own thoughts and views whether theyโre right or wrong. I get that he wants to help the situation, but these kind of stunts actually make me wonder if Iโm really that keen on Banksy at all.
Iโve not read any comments on here, so Iโve no idea on how last nightโs show was received. My take is that using children was wrong, as it most definitely was with the Balfour stunt, which seemed even more crass than Iโd originally thought. As mentioned a few times in the show, these are children that have no concept of politics or in some cases that there is a wall at all. Chances are the parents only agreed for their kids taking part because of who Danny Boyle is, as it was a once in a life time chance for those young people to be in a Boyle production. Interesting too that there seemed to be mixed views about Banksy from the locals too. While Banksy seems to have admirable intentions, I genuinely think that heโd do well to have more people like Boyle reigning him back. That Jo Brookes certainly wasnโt and seemed like she was loving the Balfour thing, even though the locals were storming it. The other thought I had was it all seemed to me a bit like Bono syndrome of a multi millionaire imposing their own thoughts and views whether theyโre right or wrong. I get that he wants to help the situation, but these kind of stunts actually make me wonder if Iโm really that keen on Banksy at all.
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dotdot
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Banksy, The Alternativity @ Walled Off Hotel, by dotdot on Dec 19, 2017 0:08:18 GMT 1, saw it - it was good in a good few ways. could have been broader , but i guess .. can't always get what you might want. (ironic?)
the trip around the other hotel was ... for me a hi light.. in a lo light kind of way.
.. as with most things - the truth is a tricky thing to .. tie down.
choose life ..
saw it - it was good in a good few ways. could have been broader , but i guess .. can't always get what you might want. (ironic?)
the trip around the other hotel was ... for me a hi light.. in a lo light kind of way.
.. as with most things - the truth is a tricky thing to .. tie down.
choose life ..
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