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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by Jaylove on Feb 9, 2018 2:00:09 GMT 1, I honestly don't get it. I really don't. Anyways, in the art world this obsession sometimes can't be rationalized...and we can all relate.
I honestly don't get it. I really don't. Anyways, in the art world this obsession sometimes can't be rationalized...and we can all relate.
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by nighthawk on Feb 9, 2018 3:11:02 GMT 1, I said that about STIK for so long...Haha!
I said that about STIK for so long...Haha!
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by Jimini Cricket on Feb 9, 2018 4:23:49 GMT 1, Jealous Gallery: We couldn't be more irritating than tiered pricing and only accepting orders through a solitary phone line.
Counter Editions: Hold my beer.
Jealous Gallery: We couldn't be more irritating than tiered pricing and only accepting orders through a solitary phone line.
Counter Editions: Hold my beer.
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by jellya on Feb 9, 2018 6:45:18 GMT 1, Phenomenal day - I can’t remember a time when there’s been such a mad rush to buy up all remaining stock of an artist, based on one frenzied print release
Last one I remember was Micallef and the mad rush to clear out the Eyestorm editions in 2006. I think they went in a day.
Phenomenal day - I can’t remember a time when there’s been such a mad rush to buy up all remaining stock of an artist, based on one frenzied print release Last one I remember was Micallef and the mad rush to clear out the Eyestorm editions in 2006. I think they went in a day. |
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by lv90210 on Feb 9, 2018 7:42:40 GMT 1, Phenomenal day - I can’t remember a time when there’s been such a mad rush to buy up all remaining stock of an artist, based on one frenzied print release Last one I remember was Micallef and the mad rush to clear out the Eyestorm editions in 2006. I think they went in a day.
Spoke with Michael at Schafer and he said he didnt know what had hit him, around 5pm GMT he had very few prints left.
Phenomenal day - I can’t remember a time when there’s been such a mad rush to buy up all remaining stock of an artist, based on one frenzied print release Last one I remember was Micallef and the mad rush to clear out the Eyestorm editions in 2006. I think they went in a day. Funny how Hangup were selling prints for £1200 when you could of still bought them at source for €330. Spoke with Michael at Schafer and he said he didnt know what had hit him, around 5pm GMT he had very few prints left. |
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 8:26:00 GMT 1, Last one I remember was Micallef and the mad rush to clear out the Eyestorm editions in 2006. I think they went in a day. Funny how Hangup were selling prints for £1200 when you could of still bought them at source for €330. Spoke with Michael at Schafer and he said he didnt know what had hit him, around 5pm GMT he had very few prints left.
I think this is what they call a tipping point
Mr Shrigley has tipped (for now)
I really like this kind of thing. Similar thing happened with Stik with the sleeping baby, and as said earlier Micallef
its like there is a certain thing that happens that draws people like flies arounds**t.
I'd love someone with a biggish brain to tell me what is it
is it like a certain critical mass of ABC1 earners * Hype + speculation / research= Artist Tip.
in this instance the tiered pricing definitely had a effect on the speculation,
a print was valued at £6k therefore any print secured for well under that still had value.
'f**k art, let's speculate' . to be launched in 2019 when i find an artist to put it on a bit of paper for me with a rocket next to it . JBOY or is it Freeerange, (I forget who is pretending or denying who is who here at times) you still here?
Last one I remember was Micallef and the mad rush to clear out the Eyestorm editions in 2006. I think they went in a day. Funny how Hangup were selling prints for £1200 when you could of still bought them at source for €330. Spoke with Michael at Schafer and he said he didnt know what had hit him, around 5pm GMT he had very few prints left. I think this is what they call a tipping point Mr Shrigley has tipped (for now) I really like this kind of thing. Similar thing happened with Stik with the sleeping baby, and as said earlier Micallef its like there is a certain thing that happens that draws people like flies arounds**t. I'd love someone with a biggish brain to tell me what is it is it like a certain critical mass of ABC1 earners * Hype + speculation / research= Artist Tip. in this instance the tiered pricing definitely had a effect on the speculation, a print was valued at £6k therefore any print secured for well under that still had value. 'f**k art, let's speculate' . to be launched in 2019 when i find an artist to put it on a bit of paper for me with a rocket next to it . JBOY or is it Freeerange, (I forget who is pretending or denying who is who here at times) you still here? |
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by lv90210 on Feb 9, 2018 8:56:42 GMT 1, What time is it in Copenhagen ? 
What time is it in Copenhagen ? |
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by Art Fan 2011 on Feb 9, 2018 9:29:14 GMT 1, Contender for worst print of the year, going to take something utterly shocking to top this!
I just cannot believe anyone would pay 1000's to have this on their wall. As for the DS buying frenzy yesterday in the hope that everything he has churned out turns to Gold, it's astonishing how some people are so easily led/mugged off!
Contender for worst print of the year, going to take something utterly shocking to top this!
I just cannot believe anyone would pay 1000's to have this on their wall. As for the DS buying frenzy yesterday in the hope that everything he has churned out turns to Gold, it's astonishing how some people are so easily led/mugged off!
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by lv90210 on Feb 9, 2018 9:40:05 GMT 1, Contender for worst print of the year, going to take something utterly shocking to top this! I just cannot believe anyone would pay 1000's to have this on their wall. As for the DS buying frenzy yesterday in the hope that everything he has churned out turns to Gold, it's astonishing how some people are so easily led/mugged off!
Contender for worst print of the year, going to take something utterly shocking to top this! I just cannot believe anyone would pay 1000's to have this on their wall. As for the DS buying frenzy yesterday in the hope that everything he has churned out turns to Gold, it's astonishing how some people are so easily led/mugged off! For someone that clearly doesn't like this piece you've made around 20 post's about it. Dont worry payday is around the 25th. |
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by kfroms on Feb 9, 2018 9:51:03 GMT 1, Contender for worst print of the year, going to take something utterly shocking to top this! I just cannot believe anyone would pay 1000's to have this on their wall. As for the DS buying frenzy yesterday in the hope that everything he has churned out turns to Gold, it's astonishing how some people are so easily led/mugged off!
For your own sake and health you should avoid this thread I think.
Contender for worst print of the year, going to take something utterly shocking to top this! I just cannot believe anyone would pay 1000's to have this on their wall. As for the DS buying frenzy yesterday in the hope that everything he has churned out turns to Gold, it's astonishing how some people are so easily led/mugged off! For your own sake and health you should avoid this thread I think. |
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by Art Fan 2011 on Feb 9, 2018 9:57:08 GMT 1, Contender for worst print of the year, going to take something utterly shocking to top this! I just cannot believe anyone would pay 1000's to have this on their wall. As for the DS buying frenzy yesterday in the hope that everything he has churned out turns to Gold, it's astonishing how some people are so easily led/mugged off! For someone that clearly doesn't like this piece you've made around 20 post's about it. Dont worry payday is around the 25th.
Welcome to the forum....
Contender for worst print of the year, going to take something utterly shocking to top this! I just cannot believe anyone would pay 1000's to have this on their wall. As for the DS buying frenzy yesterday in the hope that everything he has churned out turns to Gold, it's astonishing how some people are so easily led/mugged off! For someone that clearly doesn't like this piece you've made around 20 post's about it. Dont worry payday is around the 25th. Welcome to the forum.... |
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by Art Fan 2011 on Feb 9, 2018 9:58:35 GMT 1, Contender for worst print of the year, going to take something utterly shocking to top this! I just cannot believe anyone would pay 1000's to have this on their wall. As for the DS buying frenzy yesterday in the hope that everything he has churned out turns to Gold, it's astonishing how some people are so easily led/mugged off! For your own sake and health you should avoid this thread I think.
Hope you are not one of the one's mugged off yesterday, if so, I am sorry you got sucked in!
Contender for worst print of the year, going to take something utterly shocking to top this! I just cannot believe anyone would pay 1000's to have this on their wall. As for the DS buying frenzy yesterday in the hope that everything he has churned out turns to Gold, it's astonishing how some people are so easily led/mugged off! For your own sake and health you should avoid this thread I think. Hope you are not one of the one's mugged off yesterday, if so, I am sorry you got sucked in! |
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by Happy Shopper on Feb 9, 2018 10:12:13 GMT 1, I missed a few pages of this last night, but not sure why people are talking about a "buying frenzy" or comparing to Nick Walker or Micallef?
Those were very different sets of circumstances.
Plus, in this case, we just have a small handful of people talking about other Shrigley prints available, and maybe buying one or 2... None seem to have suddenly sold out... All appear to still be available!
Walker was caused buy a fake auction sale at a time everyone wanted a "new banksy".
Micallef got fucked by a too big and too expensive edition which failed to sell.
Shrigley has a steady market, but people are more selective about images, and most prints are a little odd on their own.
I missed a few pages of this last night, but not sure why people are talking about a "buying frenzy" or comparing to Nick Walker or Micallef?
Those were very different sets of circumstances.
Plus, in this case, we just have a small handful of people talking about other Shrigley prints available, and maybe buying one or 2... None seem to have suddenly sold out... All appear to still be available!
Walker was caused buy a fake auction sale at a time everyone wanted a "new banksy".
Micallef got fucked by a too big and too expensive edition which failed to sell.
Shrigley has a steady market, but people are more selective about images, and most prints are a little odd on their own.
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by barsukauk on Feb 9, 2018 10:14:43 GMT 1, Congratulations to the ones than pick up this one under 2k and made 3k +
Yesterday....
Congratulations to the ones than pick up this one under 2k and made 3k +
Yesterday....
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by Moniker Projects on Feb 9, 2018 10:24:09 GMT 1, People comparing David Shirgley to Stik, Nick Walker and even Micallef is almost daft enough to be a Shrigley artwork in it's own right.
This forum is obsessed with money, how much something sells for and how much money people can make on an artwork.
People comparing David Shirgley to Stik, Nick Walker and even Micallef is almost daft enough to be a Shrigley artwork in it's own right.
This forum is obsessed with money, how much something sells for and how much money people can make on an artwork.
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by iamzero on Feb 9, 2018 10:29:34 GMT 1, And the gallery selling this print for an extortionate rate is not money obsessed? Comedy Central.
And the gallery selling this print for an extortionate rate is not money obsessed? Comedy Central.
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by Everyone Owes on Feb 9, 2018 10:34:45 GMT 1, People comparing David Shirgley to Stik, Nick Walker and even Micallef is almost daft enough to be a Shrigley artwork in it's own right. This forum is obsessed with money, how much something sells for and how much money people can make on an artwork.
It would appear to have become more about that....luckily for Moniker eh, unless you've suddenly changed to charitable status and stopped selling secondary market works for profit?
People comparing David Shirgley to Stik, Nick Walker and even Micallef is almost daft enough to be a Shrigley artwork in it's own right. This forum is obsessed with money, how much something sells for and how much money people can make on an artwork. It would appear to have become more about that....luckily for Moniker eh, unless you've suddenly changed to charitable status and stopped selling secondary market works for profit? |
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by tonys on Feb 9, 2018 10:39:31 GMT 1, Scaled pricing rewards those who are obviously on the button, and has worked well for CE for many years as prints tend to move at glacial speeds. But the spread between £1.8k and £6k is mindblowing, in particular on a single day. Either the print is worth £1.8k or £6k.... it can't be both!
Scaled pricing rewards those who are obviously on the button, and has worked well for CE for many years as prints tend to move at glacial speeds. But the spread between £1.8k and £6k is mindblowing, in particular on a single day. Either the print is worth £1.8k or £6k.... it can't be both!
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by Moniker Projects on Feb 9, 2018 10:45:24 GMT 1, People comparing David Shirgley to Stik, Nick Walker and even Micallef is almost daft enough to be a Shrigley artwork in it's own right. This forum is obsessed with money, how much something sells for and how much money people can make on an artwork. It would appear to have become more about that....luckily for Moniker eh, unless you've suddenly changed to charitable status and stopped selling secondary market works for profit?
We do buy and sell a 'small' amount of works on the secondary market, but we use this money to fund working with artists and putting on exhibitions, art fairs and facilitating outdoor commissions. We also work a lot of the time with charities.
People comparing David Shirgley to Stik, Nick Walker and even Micallef is almost daft enough to be a Shrigley artwork in it's own right. This forum is obsessed with money, how much something sells for and how much money people can make on an artwork. It would appear to have become more about that....luckily for Moniker eh, unless you've suddenly changed to charitable status and stopped selling secondary market works for profit? We do buy and sell a 'small' amount of works on the secondary market, but we use this money to fund working with artists and putting on exhibitions, art fairs and facilitating outdoor commissions. We also work a lot of the time with charities. |
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 10:47:57 GMT 1, People comparing David Shirgley to Stik, Nick Walker and even Micallef is almost daft enough to be a Shrigley artwork in it's own right. This forum is obsessed with money, how much something sells for and how much money people can make on an artwork.
You are of course right and I am sure know a huge amount More than I about everything to do with art, also being a dealer I should imagine your finger to be on the pulse of trends etc, so....
Though I don’t think anyone is comparing the artist to other artists, the comparison I made is the suddenness of how fast demand can rise for art works produced by artists
What in your opinion has caused the surge?
Why do People want to own some of his stuff that’s been for sale through various source for months and years?
People comparing David Shirgley to Stik, Nick Walker and even Micallef is almost daft enough to be a Shrigley artwork in it's own right. This forum is obsessed with money, how much something sells for and how much money people can make on an artwork. You are of course right and I am sure know a huge amount More than I about everything to do with art, also being a dealer I should imagine your finger to be on the pulse of trends etc, so.... Though I don’t think anyone is comparing the artist to other artists, the comparison I made is the suddenness of how fast demand can rise for art works produced by artists What in your opinion has caused the surge? Why do People want to own some of his stuff that’s been for sale through various source for months and years? |
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by iamzero on Feb 9, 2018 10:53:32 GMT 1, Are you the guys that bought the Moniker brand last year sometime or still the originals?
Are you the guys that bought the Moniker brand last year sometime or still the originals?
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by whob1 on Feb 9, 2018 10:54:29 GMT 1, Its worth whatever people want to pay for it, like anything else. People spend their money on whatever suits them. If people dont like Shrigley, thats fair enough, believe whatever you want, but accept that many people do. He has had a slowly increasing popularity, high quality prints, with the finger statue, sketch and upcoming exhibition with hangup, he has drawn more and more attention. Its not a coincidence they will show his works next to Miller and Banksy, he is becoming more and more popular, he knows, hangup knows.
Its worth whatever people want to pay for it, like anything else. People spend their money on whatever suits them. If people dont like Shrigley, thats fair enough, believe whatever you want, but accept that many people do. He has had a slowly increasing popularity, high quality prints, with the finger statue, sketch and upcoming exhibition with hangup, he has drawn more and more attention. Its not a coincidence they will show his works next to Miller and Banksy, he is becoming more and more popular, he knows, hangup knows.
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by Hubble Bubble on Feb 9, 2018 10:55:26 GMT 1, Only right that we have a Shrigley bubble as Bitcoin appears to have popped...
Only right that we have a Shrigley bubble as Bitcoin appears to have popped...
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by Happy Shopper on Feb 9, 2018 10:55:40 GMT 1, Scaled pricing rewards those who are obviously on the button, and has worked well for CE for many years as prints tend to move at glacial speeds. But the spread between £1.8k and £6k is mindblowing, in particular on a single day. Either the print is worth £1.8k or £6k.... it can't be both!
Just my theory, but I think the rational is this... They've sold out at £5k before and auction sales have reached £5k... so they know there are people willing to pay that price... but probably not 125 people!
So they set £5k as the target value, but tier it downwards to a price more people would be willing to pay (knowing that anyone following prices have seen the £5k selling prices, and will jump at the chance of scoring for cheaper).
Plus, in this case, they've made a £6k tier which is purely speculative.
Scaled pricing rewards those who are obviously on the button, and has worked well for CE for many years as prints tend to move at glacial speeds. But the spread between £1.8k and £6k is mindblowing, in particular on a single day. Either the print is worth £1.8k or £6k.... it can't be both! Just my theory, but I think the rational is this... They've sold out at £5k before and auction sales have reached £5k... so they know there are people willing to pay that price... but probably not 125 people! So they set £5k as the target value, but tier it downwards to a price more people would be willing to pay (knowing that anyone following prices have seen the £5k selling prices, and will jump at the chance of scoring for cheaper). Plus, in this case, they've made a £6k tier which is purely speculative. |
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by Moniker Projects on Feb 9, 2018 10:57:40 GMT 1, People comparing David Shirgley to Stik, Nick Walker and even Micallef is almost daft enough to be a Shrigley artwork in it's own right. This forum is obsessed with money, how much something sells for and how much money people can make on an artwork. You are of course right and I am sure know a huge amount More than I about everything to do with art, also being a dealer I should imagine your finger to be on the pulse of trends etc, so.... Though I don’t think anyone is comparing the artist to other artists, the comparison I made is the suddenness of how fast demand can rise for art works produced by artists What in your opinion has caused the surge? Why do People want to own some of his stuff that’s been for sale through various source for months and years?
I'm actually well-placed to answer this as I recently bought an etching from Denmark a few weeks ago, as I sort of saw the surge coming, but perhaps not as much as this.
I've always liked DS as an artist, and the reason I ended up buying the etching was because I wanted a piece of his artwork and I wanted to get in while it was still affordable to me. They have been around for a while, but recently I clocked on to rising prices, both primary and at auction. I also noticed that some galleries were starting to accept consignments, which is a sure-fire sign that the demand is there. So it was a case of now or never.
Also, just to point out, I was buying for me, to keep and frame, and not for MP.
People comparing David Shirgley to Stik, Nick Walker and even Micallef is almost daft enough to be a Shrigley artwork in it's own right. This forum is obsessed with money, how much something sells for and how much money people can make on an artwork. You are of course right and I am sure know a huge amount More than I about everything to do with art, also being a dealer I should imagine your finger to be on the pulse of trends etc, so.... Though I don’t think anyone is comparing the artist to other artists, the comparison I made is the suddenness of how fast demand can rise for art works produced by artists What in your opinion has caused the surge? Why do People want to own some of his stuff that’s been for sale through various source for months and years? I'm actually well-placed to answer this as I recently bought an etching from Denmark a few weeks ago, as I sort of saw the surge coming, but perhaps not as much as this. I've always liked DS as an artist, and the reason I ended up buying the etching was because I wanted a piece of his artwork and I wanted to get in while it was still affordable to me. They have been around for a while, but recently I clocked on to rising prices, both primary and at auction. I also noticed that some galleries were starting to accept consignments, which is a sure-fire sign that the demand is there. So it was a case of now or never. Also, just to point out, I was buying for me, to keep and frame, and not for MP. |
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by Moniker Projects on Feb 9, 2018 11:02:16 GMT 1, Are you the guys that bought the Moniker brand last year sometime or still the originals?
We're the originals. Nothing to do with Moniker Art Fair for the past two years, but we ran it from 2010 until 2015.
Are you the guys that bought the Moniker brand last year sometime or still the originals? We're the originals. Nothing to do with Moniker Art Fair for the past two years, but we ran it from 2010 until 2015. |
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by lv90210 on Feb 9, 2018 11:03:18 GMT 1, For your own sake and health you should avoid this thread I think. Hope you are not one of the one's mugged off yesterday, if so, I am sorry you got sucked in!
For your own sake and health you should avoid this thread I think. Hope you are not one of the one's mugged off yesterday, if so, I am sorry you got sucked in! Just let it go, if its not for you its not for you, you dont have to spend your life typing about it..... maybe do some overtime or something. |
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by alvington89 on Feb 9, 2018 11:06:48 GMT 1, To summarise...
Crap print, gullible people, clever marketing.
To summarise...
Crap print, gullible people, clever marketing.
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by Jimini Cricket on Feb 9, 2018 11:07:32 GMT 1, What is startling is the pace at which the launch price climbed to its current level.
Which made me realise from this experience was that the current demand for his works are unprecented, these prices that we're seeing will be the new normal and that there are enough people out there willing and able to drop stacks.
Good luck to the artist and good luck to the print houses. I will be looking elsewhere for my art fix.
What is startling is the pace at which the launch price climbed to its current level.
Which made me realise from this experience was that the current demand for his works are unprecented, these prices that we're seeing will be the new normal and that there are enough people out there willing and able to drop stacks.
Good luck to the artist and good luck to the print houses. I will be looking elsewhere for my art fix.
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David Shrigley - Be Nice, by Nuno on Feb 9, 2018 11:28:45 GMT 1, Has someone linked to the artist played a master stroke? Purchasing a print at auction for £4.5k and then selling 120 prints at an average £3k (?) instead of £1k. Incredible return on an investment made just a few weeks ago.
Disclaimer: no suggestion or knowledge that this has happened, merely that it could have.
Has someone linked to the artist played a master stroke? Purchasing a print at auction for £4.5k and then selling 120 prints at an average £3k (?) instead of £1k. Incredible return on an investment made just a few weeks ago.
Disclaimer: no suggestion or knowledge that this has happened, merely that it could have.
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