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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Dive Jedi on Jun 2, 2020 16:17:01 GMT 1, ยฃ1,100 on that WCP?! Someone is in for a nasty surprise...
ยฃ1,100 on that WCP?! Someone is in for a nasty surprise... They are actually available on eBay now for 60 quid or so ! |
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Love Is In The Air on Jun 2, 2020 17:00:22 GMT 1, After a slow start someone eventually bid and the unsigned Grannies hammered at 10k, so roughly 13k with fees.
Side point, but surely if someone was selling privately on this forum they would get 10k or more for one of these without having to pay fees? Not sure auction is the way to go with the lower-priced prints atm but guess depends what commission the house is taking.
After a slow start someone eventually bid and the unsigned Grannies hammered at 10k, so roughly 13k with fees.
Side point, but surely if someone was selling privately on this forum they would get 10k or more for one of these without having to pay fees? Not sure auction is the way to go with the lower-priced prints atm but guess depends what commission the house is taking.
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by nik2000 on Jun 2, 2020 17:06:55 GMT 1, Seller of sale ends didnโt do great
Seller of sale ends didnโt do great
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by LJCal on Jun 2, 2020 17:10:52 GMT 1, After a slow start someone eventually bid and the unsigned Grannies hammered at 10k, so roughly 13k with fees. Side point, but surely if someone was selling privately on this forum they would get 10k or more for one of these without having to pay fees? Not sure auction is the way to go with the lower-priced prints atm but guess depends what commission the house is taking.
After a slow start someone eventually bid and the unsigned Grannies hammered at 10k, so roughly 13k with fees. Side point, but surely if someone was selling privately on this forum they would get 10k or more for one of these without having to pay fees? Not sure auction is the way to go with the lower-priced prints atm but guess depends what commission the house is taking. Totally agree auction is looking less and less attractive for these lower value prints. The lower tier auction houses are just not getting the reults and the big boys will probably not bend on their fees for small lots so will take a big chunk from the seller. In an ideal world serious buyers and sellers should meet in the middle of hammer price and total price paid by an auction buyer and everyone would win then. |
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by LJCal on Jun 2, 2020 17:12:21 GMT 1, So who just consigned a stack of WCP prints to the next auction? lol
GWB has to be worth ยฃ2.5k haha?
So who just consigned a stack of WCP prints to the next auction? lol
GWB has to be worth ยฃ2.5k haha?
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Dive Jedi
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Dive Jedi on Jun 2, 2020 17:41:04 GMT 1, why will it be embarrassing?.. Isnt it just as much a case of buyer should take time and investigate and understand they are buying? ( its not my WCP nor do I own any just for ref ) While some fault definitely lays with buyer, considering they arenโt intentionally misleading anyone. An argument could definitely be made that reproductions have no place in a legitimate auction, and buyers shouldnโt have to read the details to make sure a piece is original/authentic.
why will it be embarrassing?.. Isnt it just as much a case of buyer should take time and investigate and understand they are buying? ( its not my WCP nor do I own any just for ref ) While some fault definitely lays with buyer, considering they arenโt intentionally misleading anyone. An argument could definitely be made that reproductions have no place in a legitimate auction, and buyers shouldnโt have to read the details to make sure a piece is original/authentic. Catawiki doesn't even accept WCP's.... |
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Dive Jedi
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Dive Jedi on Jun 2, 2020 18:21:15 GMT 1, Seller of sale ends didnโt do great
Buyer pays 19.000 x 1,25 = 23.750
Seller gets 19.000 x 0,85 = 16.150 minus marketing fees.
A deal at the forum of 21K would have been better for both.
Only party winning is the house - as ever.
Seller of sale ends didnโt do great Both buyer and seller didn't do great. Buyer pays 19.000 x 1,25 = 23.750 Seller gets 19.000 x 0,85 = 16.150 minus marketing fees. A deal at the forum of 21K would have been better for both. Only party winning is the house - as ever. |
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by singerstu on Jun 2, 2020 18:29:55 GMT 1, Seller of sale ends didnโt do great Both buyer and seller didn't do great. Buyer pays 19.000 x 1,25 = 23.750 Seller gets 19.000 x 0,85 = 16.150 minus marketing fees. A deal at the forum of 21K would have been better for both. Only party winning is the house - as ever.
I was the buyer. The other option was the seller here who wanted ยฃ23k but insisted I meet him in Oxford with the cash. I know which deal was better for me.
Seller of sale ends didnโt do great Both buyer and seller didn't do great. Buyer pays 19.000 x 1,25 = 23.750 Seller gets 19.000 x 0,85 = 16.150 minus marketing fees. A deal at the forum of 21K would have been better for both. Only party winning is the house - as ever. I was the buyer. The other option was the seller here who wanted ยฃ23k but insisted I meet him in Oxford with the cash. I know which deal was better for me. |
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Jun 2, 2020 18:55:39 GMT 1, Thanks for explaining stu. For ยฃ750 you are probably better without the travel and cash aggro
In a year when they are ยฃ30,000 youโll be happy.
Iโm also happy cause youโve pushed the price up again 
Thanks for explaining stu. For ยฃ750 you are probably better without the travel and cash aggro In a year when they are ยฃ30,000 youโll be happy. Iโm also happy cause youโve pushed the price up again |
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Nick on Jun 2, 2020 18:57:43 GMT 1, congrats on the purchase, lucky bugger
congrats on the purchase, lucky bugger
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by mrizzle on Jun 2, 2020 19:10:19 GMT 1, If anyone's interested in the Grannies at the auction, it's got a burn mark on the head of one of the grannies (assume it's the one that didn't sell at Tate Ward). Thought I'd highlight that it isn't 'mint' as it has previously been described - and no, I'm not looking to buy it. Were you sent a condition report? I asked for two, got nothing. The lots a very poorly photographed and described.
I requested a condition report for the Pose piece and also got nothing. I also emailed Penelope directly who copied in the โbidsโ team who then merely sent my a hyperlink to the โHow to bidโ section of the website. Not what I asked. With no images of the actual print and no condition report, I refrained from placing any bids.
If anyone's interested in the Grannies at the auction, it's got a burn mark on the head of one of the grannies (assume it's the one that didn't sell at Tate Ward). Thought I'd highlight that it isn't 'mint' as it has previously been described - and no, I'm not looking to buy it. Were you sent a condition report? I asked for two, got nothing. The lots a very poorly photographed and described. I requested a condition report for the Pose piece and also got nothing. I also emailed Penelope directly who copied in the โbidsโ team who then merely sent my a hyperlink to the โHow to bidโ section of the website. Not what I asked. With no images of the actual print and no condition report, I refrained from placing any bids. |
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Sacked... on Jun 2, 2020 19:29:30 GMT 1, Are Chiswick , the same auction house that's always used on those BBC TV antiques shows ,(Flog it ,Bargain Hunt , etc) ?
Are Chiswick , the same auction house that's always used on those BBC TV antiques shows ,(Flog it ,Bargain Hunt , etc) ?
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by LJCal on Jun 2, 2020 19:31:05 GMT 1, Seller of sale ends didnโt do great Both buyer and seller didn't do great. Buyer pays 19.000 x 1,25 = 23.750 Seller gets 19.000 x 0,85 = 16.150 minus marketing fees. A deal at the forum of 21K would have been better for both. Only party winning is the house - as ever.
Seller of sale ends didnโt do great Both buyer and seller didn't do great. Buyer pays 19.000 x 1,25 = 23.750 Seller gets 19.000 x 0,85 = 16.150 minus marketing fees. A deal at the forum of 21K would have been better for both. Only party winning is the house - as ever. Totally agree if buyers and sellers are sensible they both would have done better dealing on here, At ยฃ20-22k depending on the logistics and location itโs a much fairer deal than giving away 25-30% to an auction house. |
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Pattycakes on Jun 2, 2020 20:19:46 GMT 1, Are Chiswick , the same auction house that's always used on those BBC TV antiques shows ,(Flog it ,Bargain Hunt , etc) ?
Are Chiswick , the same auction house that's always used on those BBC TV antiques shows ,(Flog it ,Bargain Hunt , etc) ? Sort of. The old owners sold out and went to open an antiques centre in the country. It's the same place but new(ish) ownership. It's still in the same industrial estate however. |
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Lazarus II on Jun 2, 2020 20:27:52 GMT 1, Seller of sale ends didnโt do great
he did alright if he paid ยฃ500 for it.
Seller of sale ends didnโt do great he did alright if he paid ยฃ500 for it. |
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Sacked... on Jun 2, 2020 20:28:46 GMT 1, Are Chiswick , the same auction house that's always used on those BBC TV antiques shows ,(Flog it ,Bargain Hunt , etc) ? Sort of. The old owners sold out and went to open an antiques centre in the country. It's the same place but new(ish) ownership. It's still in the same industrial estate however.
Thanks for the info.
Are Chiswick , the same auction house that's always used on those BBC TV antiques shows ,(Flog it ,Bargain Hunt , etc) ? Sort of. The old owners sold out and went to open an antiques centre in the country. It's the same place but new(ish) ownership. It's still in the same industrial estate however. Thanks for the info. |
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Dive Jedi
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Dive Jedi on Jun 2, 2020 20:32:03 GMT 1, Seller of sale ends didnโt do great he did alright if he paid ยฃ500 for it.
Seller of sale ends didnโt do great he did alright if he paid ยฃ500 for it. Don't forget the shipping ! |
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Lazarus II on Jun 2, 2020 20:48:03 GMT 1, he did alright if he paid ยฃ500 for it. Don't forget the shipping !
ach fck, it was a sh!t deal for him after all !
he did alright if he paid ยฃ500 for it. Don't forget the shipping ! ach fck, it was a sh!t deal for him after all ! |
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by andypandy on Jun 2, 2020 21:09:11 GMT 1, I canโt get through the results as I donโt have that kind of time.
However my penneth worth on what Iโve seen:
To consign any signed Banksy let alone a Sale Ends (which is one of the least expensive right now) into an auction which has close to 500 lots is probably not a good idea.
But to consign it into an auction that has almost 500 lots which includes both replicas and low value undesirable artwork is borderline insanity.
I get that times are tough right now and the market isnโt stable but really? ยฃ19k hammer minus seller fees is an awful result for the consignee.
Also that post regarding the Grannies with the house not declaring the burn damage is an out and out liberty. Then putting down some fanny about not being aware of the condition......... Sounds like a proper stroke to me. If Iโd just pulled up ยฃ11k for that then found out one of the old dears had a bit of shit on her face, Iโd be doing my nut. #buyersremorse ๐
Chunks of lots passed also. Speaks for itself
I canโt get through the results as I donโt have that kind of time.
However my penneth worth on what Iโve seen:
To consign any signed Banksy let alone a Sale Ends (which is one of the least expensive right now) into an auction which has close to 500 lots is probably not a good idea.
But to consign it into an auction that has almost 500 lots which includes both replicas and low value undesirable artwork is borderline insanity.
I get that times are tough right now and the market isnโt stable but really? ยฃ19k hammer minus seller fees is an awful result for the consignee.
Also that post regarding the Grannies with the house not declaring the burn damage is an out and out liberty. Then putting down some fanny about not being aware of the condition......... Sounds like a proper stroke to me. If Iโd just pulled up ยฃ11k for that then found out one of the old dears had a bit of shit on her face, Iโd be doing my nut. #buyersremorse ๐
Chunks of lots passed also. Speaks for itself
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 7:57:40 GMT 1, Does anyone know what the 4 Stik liberty show cards went for. Thanks
Does anyone know what the 4 Stik liberty show cards went for. Thanks
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by irl1 on Jun 4, 2020 11:06:57 GMT 1, Does anyone know what the 4 Stik liberty show cards went for. Thanks
ยฃ2,600 + fees Full results below
www.invaluable.com/catalog/vx8ad8syz2
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 11:21:09 GMT 1,
. Wow. Many thanks
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by brookvale on Jun 4, 2020 22:21:40 GMT 1, How can anyone trust a auction house that sells fakes
How can anyone trust a auction house that sells fakes
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by irl1 on Jun 5, 2020 2:22:09 GMT 1, Both buyer and seller didn't do great. Buyer pays 19.000 x 1,25 = 23.750 Seller gets 19.000 x 0,85 = 16.150 minus marketing fees. A deal at the forum of 21K would have been better for both. Only party winning is the house - as ever. I was the buyer. The other option was the seller here who wanted ยฃ23k but insisted I meet him in Oxford with the cash. I know which deal was better for me.
www.bonhams.com/auctions/26024/lot/309/?category=list&length=346&page=1
Both buyer and seller didn't do great. Buyer pays 19.000 x 1,25 = 23.750 Seller gets 19.000 x 0,85 = 16.150 minus marketing fees. A deal at the forum of 21K would have been better for both. Only party winning is the house - as ever. I was the buyer. The other option was the seller here who wanted ยฃ23k but insisted I meet him in Oxford with the cash. I know which deal was better for me. |
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Bruno Art 99 on Sept 3, 2020 16:31:10 GMT 1, I understand they are taking consignment but unfortunately there customer service is sadly lacking.
Still waiting for confirmation of numerous e mails and non returned phone calls.
Has anybody been successful in contacting them and getting a reply.
I understand they are taking consignment but unfortunately there customer service is sadly lacking.
Still waiting for confirmation of numerous e mails and non returned phone calls.
Has anybody been successful in contacting them and getting a reply.
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by PS on Sept 3, 2020 16:44:09 GMT 1, I think Penelope was on Furlough until 1st September.
I understand they are taking consignment but unfortunately there customer service is sadly lacking. Still waiting for confirmation of numerous e mails and non returned phone calls. Has anybody been successful in contacting them and getting a reply.
I think Penelope was on Furlough until 1st September. I understand they are taking consignment but unfortunately there customer service is sadly lacking. Still waiting for confirmation of numerous e mails and non returned phone calls. Has anybody been successful in contacting them and getting a reply. |
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Bruno Art 99 on Sept 3, 2020 16:58:41 GMT 1, I understand, but should still respond to e mails and phone calls after that date.
Hopefully hear soon as normally they have a good customer service record.
I understand, but should still respond to e mails and phone calls after that date.
Hopefully hear soon as normally they have a good customer service record.
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by brookvale on Sept 3, 2020 18:17:56 GMT 1, Any auction house that sells fake Banksy prints canโt be much use
Any auction house that sells fake Banksy prints canโt be much use
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by singerstu on Sept 3, 2020 19:13:48 GMT 1, Any auction house that sells fake Banksy prints canโt be much use
And refuses to supply me a Banksy print even though the hammer went down and the auctioneer said sold.
In my experience a bit of a Mickey Mouse outfit.
Any auction house that sells fake Banksy prints canโt be much use And refuses to supply me a Banksy print even though the hammer went down and the auctioneer said sold. In my experience a bit of a Mickey Mouse outfit. |
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