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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by kelly on Dec 15, 2013 14:43:19 GMT 1, For sale: Signed, framed flying copper with COA.
Medium: Screen print.
Year: 2004.
Size: 100 x 70cm
Edition: #150
Asking price £12,000
For sale: Signed, framed flying copper with COA. Medium: Screen print. Year: 2004. Size: 100 x 70cm Edition: #150 Asking price £12,000 |
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by Emile on Dec 15, 2013 16:19:12 GMT 1, 1. Why open two seperate threads? 2. Are you sure you wanna state a "hard" price? If someone bids 13k, are you still gonna except the person who bid 12k the day before? Are you good for it? 3. What's with the weird picture on your profile lol Hello Emileh Thank you for your questions. 1. I have opened two threads as I am selling two pieces of art work. I had mis read the advise posted by Daniel Silk and shall amend the posts accordingly. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. 2. The price stated is an asking price. (As my mum always said, if you don't ask, you don't get) This of course doesn't mean to say that I'm not open to negotiations. If I am fortunate enough to agree a sale price on these pieces then I shall of course honour the agreement. If that means that someone should offer me a higher price the next day after agreeing a sale in principle then it looks like that'll be my hard luck. I shall operate on a first come first serve basis. 3. As for my avatar, let's just say it's my take on life imitating art! best wishes Kelly.
Ha thank you for your answers! Good luck with your sale
1. Why open two seperate threads? 2. Are you sure you wanna state a "hard" price? If someone bids 13k, are you still gonna except the person who bid 12k the day before? Are you good for it? 3. What's with the weird picture on your profile lol Hello Emileh Thank you for your questions. 1. I have opened two threads as I am selling two pieces of art work. I had mis read the advise posted by Daniel Silk and shall amend the posts accordingly. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. 2. The price stated is an asking price. (As my mum always said, if you don't ask, you don't get) This of course doesn't mean to say that I'm not open to negotiations. If I am fortunate enough to agree a sale price on these pieces then I shall of course honour the agreement. If that means that someone should offer me a higher price the next day after agreeing a sale in principle then it looks like that'll be my hard luck. I shall operate on a first come first serve basis. 3. As for my avatar, let's just say it's my take on life imitating art! best wishes Kelly. Ha thank you for your answers! Good luck with your sale |
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by streetlife on Dec 15, 2013 17:54:43 GMT 1, A couple of classics in a well described for sale thread. Good on you for highlighting the very minor blemishes, many on here wouldn't - good luck with the sale.
A couple of classics in a well described for sale thread. Good on you for highlighting the very minor blemishes, many on here wouldn't - good luck with the sale.
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by johnnyh on Dec 15, 2013 18:53:20 GMT 1, Great thread and two cracking pieces.. Pics, prices..info
Emileh....as you like questions....Why would someone offer 13K for something available for 12K?
Great thread and two cracking pieces.. Pics, prices..info
Emileh....as you like questions....Why would someone offer 13K for something available for 12K?
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by Emile on Dec 15, 2013 19:03:39 GMT 1, Great thread and two cracking pieces.. Pics, prices..info Emileh....as you like questions....Why would someone offer 13K for something available for 12K?
Just reminded me of this:
urbanartassociation.com/thread/111433/banksy-ball-games-grey-sale
Print has a "set" price
Someone says "I'll take it"
Someone else bids above that amount and seller doesn't honor first bidder with whom he/she has an agreement cause he/she can get more money for it
Great thread and two cracking pieces.. Pics, prices..info Emileh....as you like questions....Why would someone offer 13K for something available for 12K? Just reminded me of this: urbanartassociation.com/thread/111433/banksy-ball-games-grey-salePrint has a "set" price Someone says "I'll take it" Someone else bids above that amount and seller doesn't honor first bidder with whom he/she has an agreement cause he/she can get more money for it |
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by curiousgeorge on Dec 15, 2013 21:49:52 GMT 1, Great thread and two cracking pieces.. Pics, prices..info Emileh....as you like questions....Why would someone offer 13K for something available for 12K? Just reminded me of this: urbanartassociation.com/thread/111433/banksy-ball-games-grey-salePrint has a "set" price Someone says "I'll take it" Someone else bids above that amount and seller doesn't honor first bidder with whom he/she has an agreement cause he/she can get more money for it
Great thread and two cracking pieces.. Pics, prices..info Emileh....as you like questions....Why would someone offer 13K for something available for 12K? Just reminded me of this: urbanartassociation.com/thread/111433/banksy-ball-games-grey-salePrint has a "set" price Someone says "I'll take it" Someone else bids above that amount and seller doesn't honor first bidder with whom he/she has an agreement cause he/she can get more money for it And that's one way a group of like-minded individuals could manipulate prices |
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by dotdot on Dec 15, 2013 22:51:03 GMT 1, .. for the avoidance of doubt can you confirm if the prints are touching the glass in either frame ?
Thanks
.. for the avoidance of doubt can you confirm if the prints are touching the glass in either frame ?
Thanks
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by johnnyh on Dec 16, 2013 2:05:46 GMT 1, Great thread and two cracking pieces.. Pics, prices..info Emileh....as you like questions....Why would someone offer 13K for something available for 12K? Just reminded me of this: urbanartassociation.com/thread/111433/banksy-ball-games-grey-salePrint has a "set" price Someone says "I'll take it" Someone else bids above that amount and seller doesn't honor first bidder with whom he/she has an agreement cause he/she can get more money for it
That's one sale thread in the hundreds that go on. Kelly set a price put pics up end of. That is def not the norm.
Great thread and two cracking pieces.. Pics, prices..info Emileh....as you like questions....Why would someone offer 13K for something available for 12K? Just reminded me of this: urbanartassociation.com/thread/111433/banksy-ball-games-grey-salePrint has a "set" price Someone says "I'll take it" Someone else bids above that amount and seller doesn't honor first bidder with whom he/she has an agreement cause he/she can get more money for it That's one sale thread in the hundreds that go on. Kelly set a price put pics up end of. That is def not the norm. |
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by kelly on Dec 16, 2013 2:28:26 GMT 1, .. for the avoidance of doubt can you confirm if the prints are touching the glass in either frame ? Thanks
Yes they do dotdot.
.. for the avoidance of doubt can you confirm if the prints are touching the glass in either frame ? Thanks Yes they do dotdot. |
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by lifeonwalls on Dec 16, 2013 15:54:41 GMT 1, .. for the avoidance of doubt can you confirm if the prints are touching the glass in either frame ? Thanks Yes they do dotdot.
Do you know how the prints are attached to the backing board and held in place?
.. for the avoidance of doubt can you confirm if the prints are touching the glass in either frame ? Thanks Yes they do dotdot. Do you know how the prints are attached to the backing board and held in place? |
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by Deleted on Dec 16, 2013 16:03:03 GMT 1, Do you know how the prints are attached to the backing board and held in place?
Do you know how the prints are attached to the backing board and held in place? Beginning to get interesting.... |
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by kelly on Dec 16, 2013 19:49:13 GMT 1, I'm afraid I don't. Just from looking at them they don't appear to be stuck down. I'll try and get some more photos if that helps.
I'm afraid I don't. Just from looking at them they don't appear to be stuck down. I'll try and get some more photos if that helps.
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by kelly on Dec 18, 2013 12:55:55 GMT 1, Dry mounted seems to ring a bell. I had them framed way back in 2005 when I purchased them.
Dry mounted seems to ring a bell. I had them framed way back in 2005 when I purchased them.
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by mmmike on Dec 18, 2013 13:18:48 GMT 1, oh my
oh my
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by dotdot on Dec 18, 2013 13:28:17 GMT 1, The story is getting somewhat more Complex..
The story is getting somewhat more Complex..
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 13:32:17 GMT 1, OUCH. You may want to go to a restorer and have them removed before you sell.
Hard to see amazing prints like this treated like that, but I guess we need to remember these were not the holy grail's back in '04-'05 they are today.
OUCH. You may want to go to a restorer and have them removed before you sell.
Hard to see amazing prints like this treated like that, but I guess we need to remember these were not the holy grail's back in '04-'05 they are today.
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by kelly on Dec 18, 2013 19:29:00 GMT 1, Perhaps some of you more knowledgable could fill me in? I take it this is not the way to frame stuff. Does it actually damage the print?
As you rightly pointed out, back in 2005 I just wanted to have a nice picture put in a nice frame.
Perhaps some of you more knowledgable could fill me in? I take it this is not the way to frame stuff. Does it actually damage the print?
As you rightly pointed out, back in 2005 I just wanted to have a nice picture put in a nice frame.
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by kbfrombk on Dec 18, 2013 19:33:06 GMT 1, OUCH. You may want to go to a restorer and have them removed before you sell. Hard to see amazing prints like this treated like that, but I guess we need to remember these were not the holy grail's back in '04-'05 they are today.
kelly you should take great care in seeking consult from a firm/shop that has experience in higher-value pieces such as these. Perhaps forumites local to you might have some suggestions toward that end. Keep us posted on the saga!
OUCH. You may want to go to a restorer and have them removed before you sell. Hard to see amazing prints like this treated like that, but I guess we need to remember these were not the holy grail's back in '04-'05 they are today. 100%. kelly you should take great care in seeking consult from a firm/shop that has experience in higher-value pieces such as these. Perhaps forumites local to you might have some suggestions toward that end. Keep us posted on the saga! |
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by dotdot on Dec 18, 2013 19:59:02 GMT 1, kelly - where are you , in the uk ?
(south east..?)
you're going to have to pay somone a visit... (not, need i add, a framer..)
kelly - where are you , in the uk ?
(south east..?)
you're going to have to pay somone a visit... (not, need i add, a framer..)
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 20:00:23 GMT 1, Perhaps some of you more knowledgable could fill me in? I take it this is not the way to frame stuff. Does it actually damage the print? As you rightly pointed out, back in 2005 I just wanted to have a nice picture put in a nice frame.
Where are you based because I think you may well be needing to take these to a professional to assess the situation. It's not irreversible, but it does need to be seen by someone who specialises in this type of work.
Perhaps some of you more knowledgable could fill me in? I take it this is not the way to frame stuff. Does it actually damage the print? As you rightly pointed out, back in 2005 I just wanted to have a nice picture put in a nice frame. You won't be the only one to have had work framed inappropriately. A search online will reveal the process involved in dry mounting and I'm afraid if these prints were framed in this way it will seriously affect their value. Being framed with the glass touching is also problematic. Where are you based because I think you may well be needing to take these to a professional to assess the situation. It's not irreversible, but it does need to be seen by someone who specialises in this type of work. |
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by johnnyh on Dec 18, 2013 20:14:02 GMT 1, Kelly Sean's advice is spot on if your in and around london try this guy www.grahambignellstudio.co.uk
There are others etc but you won't go wrong with him he has a very good rep and will be able to explain any issues and what can be done.
Basically your prints have been stuck to the backing so you need to get them unstuck without damaging the print....there is a fair chance that there could be some damage and you need to find the extent of that if there is.
Kelly Sean's advice is spot on if your in and around london try this guy www.grahambignellstudio.co.ukThere are others etc but you won't go wrong with him he has a very good rep and will be able to explain any issues and what can be done. Basically your prints have been stuck to the backing so you need to get them unstuck without damaging the print....there is a fair chance that there could be some damage and you need to find the extent of that if there is. |
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by Manty on Dec 18, 2013 21:09:14 GMT 1, Just to add to above
You do not HAVE to remove them from the board
You have the option of selling them as they are, though it does reduce the amount of potential buyers and amount you will get as a good percentage of people that buy these like to be in the condition they were when they were new.
maybe as an option speak to an auction house and get a view from them if are not in a rush to sell.
Good luck with whatever you decide, good to see these pop up every now and then from people that bought when they liked the image and not for speculation, though it must be a good buzz to see how they have done :-)
Just to add to above
You do not HAVE to remove them from the board
You have the option of selling them as they are, though it does reduce the amount of potential buyers and amount you will get as a good percentage of people that buy these like to be in the condition they were when they were new.
maybe as an option speak to an auction house and get a view from them if are not in a rush to sell.
Good luck with whatever you decide, good to see these pop up every now and then from people that bought when they liked the image and not for speculation, though it must be a good buzz to see how they have done :-)
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by mmmike on Dec 18, 2013 21:48:26 GMT 1, Has anyone had one successfully reversed? I wouldn't risk it. I'd say just live with it. You won't be able to sell them for much (maybe 10 to 30% of mint price) but at least you still have the image in one piece. I would remove them from the frames to get the glass off. Make sure they are not stuff to the glass already.
Has anyone had one successfully reversed? I wouldn't risk it. I'd say just live with it. You won't be able to sell them for much (maybe 10 to 30% of mint price) but at least you still have the image in one piece. I would remove them from the frames to get the glass off. Make sure they are not stuff to the glass already.
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by kelly on Dec 19, 2013 19:54:19 GMT 1, Thanks everyone for your comments/advice.
I had no idea about the complex issues regarding framing. I think I shall try and still sell them framed as I wouldn't want to risk any further damage but obviously due to this I shall consider reducing the price.
As I mentioned, back in 2005 I read about Banksy in an interview with a favourite band of mine from Bristol who mentioned his art work. I thought if have a look at some of his stuff and really fell in love with with the flying copper. There was an art shop down the road from me which actually had one of the cardboard cut outs of this which I believe we're only an edition of 12. The shop was selling it for £1,000. I can only kick myself that I didn't have enough money at the time to buy it, knowing what I know now!  ?
Anyway, I tracked down the flying copper and it was even more beautiful when it arrived so managed to source pulp fiction too and they have given me many years of enjoyment and yes certainly a buzz to see how his work is now appreciated by so many.
Thanks everyone for your comments/advice. I had no idea about the complex issues regarding framing. I think I shall try and still sell them framed as I wouldn't want to risk any further damage but obviously due to this I shall consider reducing the price. As I mentioned, back in 2005 I read about Banksy in an interview with a favourite band of mine from Bristol who mentioned his art work. I thought if have a look at some of his stuff and really fell in love with with the flying copper. There was an art shop down the road from me which actually had one of the cardboard cut outs of this which I believe we're only an edition of 12. The shop was selling it for £1,000. I can only kick myself that I didn't have enough money at the time to buy it, knowing what I know now! ? Anyway, I tracked down the flying copper and it was even more beautiful when it arrived so managed to source pulp fiction too and they have given me many years of enjoyment and yes certainly a buzz to see how his work is now appreciated by so many. |
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by dotdot on Dec 19, 2013 20:26:45 GMT 1, those cardboard coppers indeed - worth a small truckload of cash now. I remember seeing one on the bay.. and it was real. Way back...
still framed ? i'd still both agree with your caution - but also recommend a visit to a restoration person.
( check this out for ref www.conservationregister.com/PIcon-PracticeSearchResults_list.asp )
note : all's not lost - just an eval on condition, glass , drymount etc.. leaving them in there.. ? well it's your call.
those cardboard coppers indeed - worth a small truckload of cash now. I remember seeing one on the bay.. and it was real. Way back... still framed ? i'd still both agree with your caution - but also recommend a visit to a restoration person. ( check this out for ref www.conservationregister.com/PIcon-PracticeSearchResults_list.asp ) note : all's not lost - just an eval on condition, glass , drymount etc.. leaving them in there.. ? well it's your call. |
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by kelly on Dec 19, 2013 21:11:55 GMT 1, those cardboard coppers indeed - worth a small truckload of cash now. I remember seeing one on the bay.. and it was real. Way back... still framed ? i'd still both agree with your caution - but also recommend a visit to a restoration person. ( check this out for ref www.conservationregister.com/PIcon-PracticeSearchResults_list.asp ) note : all's not lost - just an eval on condition, glass , drymount etc.. leaving them in there.. ? well it's your call.
Too many decisions!! Thanks I'll check out those links and by the way, I'm based in North London.
Cheers
those cardboard coppers indeed - worth a small truckload of cash now. I remember seeing one on the bay.. and it was real. Way back... still framed ? i'd still both agree with your caution - but also recommend a visit to a restoration person. ( check this out for ref www.conservationregister.com/PIcon-PracticeSearchResults_list.asp ) note : all's not lost - just an eval on condition, glass , drymount etc.. leaving them in there.. ? well it's your call. Too many decisions!! Thanks I'll check out those links and by the way, I'm based in North London. Cheers |
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by kelly on Dec 20, 2013 23:51:46 GMT 1, Quick question.....Say I were to get these prints removed and have the pulp fictions imperfections removed I could then describe them as mint condition or restored? Also, if you were buying a print, would it not put you off knowing it had been restored?
I'm thinking there's no harm in getting a quote and if it means getting a better sale price then obviously it would be worth the investment.
Thanks in advance
Quick question.....Say I were to get these prints removed and have the pulp fictions imperfections removed I could then describe them as mint condition or restored? Also, if you were buying a print, would it not put you off knowing it had been restored?
I'm thinking there's no harm in getting a quote and if it means getting a better sale price then obviously it would be worth the investment.
Thanks in advance
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by hnkpnk on Dec 20, 2013 23:58:45 GMT 1, Has anyone had one successfully reversed? I wouldn't risk it. I'd say just live with it. You won't be able to sell them for much (maybe 10 to 30% of mint price) but at least you still have the image in one piece. I would remove them from the frames to get the glass off. Make sure they are not stuff to the glass already.
Has anyone had one successfully reversed? I wouldn't risk it. I'd say just live with it. You won't be able to sell them for much (maybe 10 to 30% of mint price) but at least you still have the image in one piece. I would remove them from the frames to get the glass off. Make sure they are not stuff to the glass already. I agree the price will be reduced, but to say 10-30% of mint price is ridiculous. More like ~30% off the mint price for dry mount. If in good condition otherwise. |
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by mmmike on Dec 21, 2013 2:19:07 GMT 1, Has anyone had one successfully reversed? I wouldn't risk it. I'd say just live with it. You won't be able to sell them for much (maybe 10 to 30% of mint price) but at least you still have the image in one piece. I would remove them from the frames to get the glass off. Make sure they are not stuff to the glass already. I agree the price will be reduced, but to say 10-30% of mint price is ridiculous. More like ~30% off the mint price for dry mount. If in good condition otherwise.
Has anyone had one successfully reversed? I wouldn't risk it. I'd say just live with it. You won't be able to sell them for much (maybe 10 to 30% of mint price) but at least you still have the image in one piece. I would remove them from the frames to get the glass off. Make sure they are not stuff to the glass already. I agree the price will be reduced, but to say 10-30% of mint price is ridiculous. More like ~30% off the mint price for dry mount. If in good condition otherwise. You think someone will pay close to 10,000 gbp for a dry mounted print? Could be wrong but I think when you get to those levels few will pay that much for dry mounted. |
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Banksy Pulp Fiction Print, by jp on Dec 21, 2013 9:53:01 GMT 1, those cardboard coppers indeed - worth a small truckload of cash now. I remember seeing one on the bay.. and it was real. Way back... still framed ? i'd still both agree with your caution - but also recommend a visit to a restoration person. ( check this out for ref www.conservationregister.com/PIcon-PracticeSearchResults_list.asp ) note : all's not lost - just an eval on condition, glass , drymount etc.. leaving them in there.. ? well it's your call. Too many decisions!! Thanks I'll check out those links and by the way, I'm based in North London. Cheers
those cardboard coppers indeed - worth a small truckload of cash now. I remember seeing one on the bay.. and it was real. Way back... still framed ? i'd still both agree with your caution - but also recommend a visit to a restoration person. ( check this out for ref www.conservationregister.com/PIcon-PracticeSearchResults_list.asp ) note : all's not lost - just an eval on condition, glass , drymount etc.. leaving them in there.. ? well it's your call. Too many decisions!! Thanks I'll check out those links and by the way, I'm based in North London. Cheers I saw 2 of those cardboard coppers in all their glory at Art Basel 2 weeks ago. I have no idea what they were going for but it is safe to say more than I could afford. Anyway... |
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