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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by JJN on Aug 1, 2017 14:39:45 GMT 1, Seems you're not really updated on Banksy price.. and is not only my opinion.. Ciao Ok we'll see. Ciao Unfortunately, I agree more with your view but hope the other view is right.
Prices on UAA always seem high vs auctions
Seems you're not really updated on Banksy price.. and is not only my opinion.. Ciao Ok we'll see. Ciao Unfortunately, I agree more with your view but hope the other view is right.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by geminii on Aug 1, 2017 23:13:52 GMT 1, Sold pending payment.
Sold pending payment.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 23:16:14 GMT 1, Are you willing to tell what it sold for?
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by geminii on Aug 2, 2017 14:51:54 GMT 1, Unfortunately things didn't work out. Although we had already agreed a cash price and a bank transfer by phone, the buyer who turned up (from a gallery, as we were already aware) told us part way through the deal this afternoon that his management were now only prepared to take on consignment. So we've said no, and after lots of phone calls between him and the gallery, and attempts to persuade us otherwise for combinations of cash and consignment (for both this GWB and two Rats I was also discussing with them) he has left empty handed. Most unimpressed.
Unfortunately things didn't work out. Although we had already agreed a cash price and a bank transfer by phone, the buyer who turned up (from a gallery, as we were already aware) told us part way through the deal this afternoon that his management were now only prepared to take on consignment. So we've said no, and after lots of phone calls between him and the gallery, and attempts to persuade us otherwise for combinations of cash and consignment (for both this GWB and two Rats I was also discussing with them) he has left empty handed. Most unimpressed.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by pokodogo on Aug 2, 2017 15:06:40 GMT 1, I feel sorry for you this sale is dragging on, I thought this would be snapped up (even with the edge UV damage).
In 10 years time when even fewer are on the market the condition wont overly affect the price as much, people will just want a Banksy (I say this as the owner of a not perfect Banksy but I would say im right), its not as if a flood of Banksy will suddenly appear in 10years time).
Sales are becoming sparser and sparser of all Prints, the signed bring a premium but once they become less and less the unsigned will be commanding even higher prices.
If this GWB was mine, and I didnt need to sell I would hold onto it for a little while longer. But if its got to go dont bail at a low ball figure (id love to know what the galleries offered).
Good Luck
I feel sorry for you this sale is dragging on, I thought this would be snapped up (even with the edge UV damage).
In 10 years time when even fewer are on the market the condition wont overly affect the price as much, people will just want a Banksy (I say this as the owner of a not perfect Banksy but I would say im right), its not as if a flood of Banksy will suddenly appear in 10years time).
Sales are becoming sparser and sparser of all Prints, the signed bring a premium but once they become less and less the unsigned will be commanding even higher prices.
If this GWB was mine, and I didnt need to sell I would hold onto it for a little while longer. But if its got to go dont bail at a low ball figure (id love to know what the galleries offered).
Good Luck
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Hubble Bubble on Aug 2, 2017 15:22:23 GMT 1, Unfortunately things didn't work out. Although we had already agreed a cash price and a bank transfer by phone, the buyer who turned up (from a gallery, as we were already aware) told us part way through the deal this afternoon that his management were now only prepared to take on consignment. So we've said no, and after lots of phone calls between him and the gallery, and attempts to persuade us otherwise for combinations of cash and consignment (for both this Girl With Balloon and two Rats I was also discussing with them) he has left empty handed. Most unimpressed.
Unfortunately things didn't work out. Although we had already agreed a cash price and a bank transfer by phone, the buyer who turned up (from a gallery, as we were already aware) told us part way through the deal this afternoon that his management were now only prepared to take on consignment. So we've said no, and after lots of phone calls between him and the gallery, and attempts to persuade us otherwise for combinations of cash and consignment (for both this Girl With Balloon and two Rats I was also discussing with them) he has left empty handed. Most unimpressed. Well done though. You're holding the aces. |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by mla on Aug 2, 2017 15:28:16 GMT 1, Glad to see you didn't let those parasites pull a fast one on you.
Glad to see you didn't let those parasites pull a fast one on you.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Unica on Aug 2, 2017 15:36:42 GMT 1, Can you name the gallery or PM it to me, so I know who I should avoid when I need to sell?
Can you name the gallery or PM it to me, so I know who I should avoid when I need to sell?
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 15:38:50 GMT 1, Unfortunately things didn't work out. Although we had already agreed a cash price and a bank transfer by phone, the buyer who turned up (from a gallery, as we were already aware) told us part way through the deal this afternoon that his management were now only prepared to take on consignment. So we've said no, and after lots of phone calls between him and the gallery, and attempts to persuade us otherwise for combinations of cash and consignment (for both this Girl With Balloon and two Rats I was also discussing with them) he has left empty handed. Most unimpressed.
Unfortunately things didn't work out. Although we had already agreed a cash price and a bank transfer by phone, the buyer who turned up (from a gallery, as we were already aware) told us part way through the deal this afternoon that his management were now only prepared to take on consignment. So we've said no, and after lots of phone calls between him and the gallery, and attempts to persuade us otherwise for combinations of cash and consignment (for both this Girl With Balloon and two Rats I was also discussing with them) he has left empty handed. Most unimpressed. who is the gallery ? would be good to name and shame so other forum members dont waste their time with them........ |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by spirit on Aug 2, 2017 15:50:53 GMT 1, The supposed advantage of dealing with a gallery is that compared to some regular folk who might mess you around or go silent after making offers etc, is that you get a professional, straight-forward and quick deal.
The accepted downside is that you might get a bit less than from a private buyer as the gallery needs to make their cut.
Galleries should be very careful about holding onto that reputation - it is their USP. If a gallery agrees a deal then tries to change it when collecting, they actually do damage to the reputation of not only their gallery, but galleries in general, once people start thinking they are as likely to get messed about by a gallery as anyone else.
The supposed advantage of dealing with a gallery is that compared to some regular folk who might mess you around or go silent after making offers etc, is that you get a professional, straight-forward and quick deal.
The accepted downside is that you might get a bit less than from a private buyer as the gallery needs to make their cut.
Galleries should be very careful about holding onto that reputation - it is their USP. If a gallery agrees a deal then tries to change it when collecting, they actually do damage to the reputation of not only their gallery, but galleries in general, once people start thinking they are as likely to get messed about by a gallery as anyone else.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by pokodogo on Aug 2, 2017 16:00:50 GMT 1, Spirit totally agreed ... but in this day and age there are people 'Playing' at been Galleries and this will / may have a negative affect on the decent ones out there. One bad egg shouldnt tarnish the reputation of many good long established ones.
Also agreed it would be nice to know who the gallery was and if it was indeed an established name, which I doubt it was. But I could be wrong!
Spirit totally agreed ... but in this day and age there are people 'Playing' at been Galleries and this will / may have a negative affect on the decent ones out there. One bad egg shouldnt tarnish the reputation of many good long established ones.
Also agreed it would be nice to know who the gallery was and if it was indeed an established name, which I doubt it was. But I could be wrong!
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Graham H on Aug 2, 2017 16:17:10 GMT 1, Just a quick observation, whenever anything like this goes wrong, the first thing numerous people always ask is to name and shame the galleries / people who have wronged someone.. bloodletting so to speak
I appreciate why this is done, but must this always be the first thing that anyone wants..
Maybe there is a good reason / two sides to the story... and being honest, if said gallery offered up a Banksy piece that someone on a mission not to deal with said gallery wanted, would this situation really mean they wouldnt snap it up if the piece was as they wanted and at a price they wanted.. just to cut off their nose / take a stance against the gallery because they have backed out of a cash deal and asked someone to put a piece on commission
Im not judging right or wrong, but just putting a level of balance on a sale for a piece that is ' highly sought after' and yet still not selling after 6 weeks.
I also appreciate in light of recent potential possible fraud by a 5 starred forumite there is a need to all look out for each other but if the seller wanted to put the details up, im thinking he would have by now had that been his choice.
Just also to clarify, Im neither a gallery or linked to any gallery
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Just a quick observation, whenever anything like this goes wrong, the first thing numerous people always ask is to name and shame the galleries / people who have wronged someone.. bloodletting so to speak
I appreciate why this is done, but must this always be the first thing that anyone wants..
Maybe there is a good reason / two sides to the story... and being honest, if said gallery offered up a Banksy piece that someone on a mission not to deal with said gallery wanted, would this situation really mean they wouldnt snap it up if the piece was as they wanted and at a price they wanted.. just to cut off their nose / take a stance against the gallery because they have backed out of a cash deal and asked someone to put a piece on commission
Im not judging right or wrong, but just putting a level of balance on a sale for a piece that is ' highly sought after' and yet still not selling after 6 weeks.
I also appreciate in light of recent potential possible fraud by a 5 starred forumite there is a need to all look out for each other but if the seller wanted to put the details up, im thinking he would have by now had that been his choice.
Just also to clarify, Im neither a gallery or linked to any gallery
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by geminii on Aug 2, 2017 16:18:49 GMT 1, I think the most disappointing thing for me was that although we had had multiple conversations by phone and in writing about the fact that this was to be a bank transfer at the time of sale, the only paperwork he had brought referred to consignment, so actually it appears the plan was never to pay cash. We were even asked to speak to the boss on the phone who then proceeded to tell us how very important they were. I found the employee who came in person very pleasant and polite and would like to believe the apology he gave saying he had not expected his boss to change their mind mid deal, but who's to know? Anyway, other than feeling grumpy and having a wasted afternoon I'm no worse off than I was this morning and am still in possession of my GWB, Love Rat and Gangsta Rat. They're already back on the wall and I'm drinking gin. Cheers.
I think the most disappointing thing for me was that although we had had multiple conversations by phone and in writing about the fact that this was to be a bank transfer at the time of sale, the only paperwork he had brought referred to consignment, so actually it appears the plan was never to pay cash. We were even asked to speak to the boss on the phone who then proceeded to tell us how very important they were. I found the employee who came in person very pleasant and polite and would like to believe the apology he gave saying he had not expected his boss to change their mind mid deal, but who's to know? Anyway, other than feeling grumpy and having a wasted afternoon I'm no worse off than I was this morning and am still in possession of my GWB, Love Rat and Gangsta Rat. They're already back on the wall and I'm drinking gin. Cheers.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by pokodogo on Aug 2, 2017 16:28:28 GMT 1, I knew the Gin was a good idea
I knew the Gin was a good idea |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by geminii on Aug 2, 2017 16:30:04 GMT 1, Im not judging right or wrong, but just putting a level of balance on a sale for a piece that is ' highly sought after' and yet still not selling after 6 weeks. I also appreciate in light of recent potential possible fraud by a 5 starred forumite there is a need to all look out for each other but if the seller wanted to put the details up, im thinking he would have by now had that been his choice.
just to answer the two points I've quoted above:
1)the lack of sale so far is primarily down to me personally as I've had a major roof leak, ceiling collapse and associated clean up and repair work to deal with over the past 5 weeks (still ongoing), so haven't been as proactive as I has planned following up messages and offers in my spare time. I think I've now replied to everyone who contacted me, but if not I apologise as I was swamped. I received numerous offers including some above the price I agreed on for today's deal, but chose to go with this gallery as they are established with a good reputation, and I had agreed an immediate bank transfer ahead of the meeting today.
2) I'm not planning to publicly "name and shame" as I prefer to keep a more private profile and neither do I wish to enter into any public slanging match with the gallery. I am however happy to reply by PM to anyone who is considering a gallery deal and may wish to know the name. I think that's fair?
Happy to listen to advice as always from those who know more than me.
Cheers.
P.S. I'm female ๐
Im not judging right or wrong, but just putting a level of balance on a sale for a piece that is ' highly sought after' and yet still not selling after 6 weeks. I also appreciate in light of recent potential possible fraud by a 5 starred forumite there is a need to all look out for each other but if the seller wanted to put the details up, im thinking he would have by now had that been his choice. Hi Graham. just to answer the two points I've quoted above: 1)the lack of sale so far is primarily down to me personally as I've had a major roof leak, ceiling collapse and associated clean up and repair work to deal with over the past 5 weeks (still ongoing), so haven't been as proactive as I has planned following up messages and offers in my spare time. I think I've now replied to everyone who contacted me, but if not I apologise as I was swamped. I received numerous offers including some above the price I agreed on for today's deal, but chose to go with this gallery as they are established with a good reputation, and I had agreed an immediate bank transfer ahead of the meeting today. 2) I'm not planning to publicly "name and shame" as I prefer to keep a more private profile and neither do I wish to enter into any public slanging match with the gallery. I am however happy to reply by PM to anyone who is considering a gallery deal and may wish to know the name. I think that's fair? Happy to listen to advice as always from those who know more than me. Cheers. P.S. I'm female ๐ |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by cyberkid on Aug 2, 2017 16:36:04 GMT 1, I think the most disappointing thing for me was that although we had had multiple conversations by phone and in writing about the fact that this was to be a bank transfer at the time of sale, the only paperwork he had brought referred to consignment, so actually it appears the plan was never to pay cash. We were even asked to speak to the boss on the phone who then proceeded to tell us how very important they were. I found the employee who came in person very pleasant and polite and would like to believe the apology he gave saying he had not expected his boss to change their mind mid deal, but who's to know? Anyway, other than feeling grumpy and having a wasted afternoon I'm no worse off than I was this morning and am still in possession of my Girl With Balloon, Love Rat and Gangsta Rat. They're already back on the wall and I'm drinking gin. Cheers.
hmmm...wasted afternoon ! i am sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
but enjoy your gin ! :-)
I think the most disappointing thing for me was that although we had had multiple conversations by phone and in writing about the fact that this was to be a bank transfer at the time of sale, the only paperwork he had brought referred to consignment, so actually it appears the plan was never to pay cash. We were even asked to speak to the boss on the phone who then proceeded to tell us how very important they were. I found the employee who came in person very pleasant and polite and would like to believe the apology he gave saying he had not expected his boss to change their mind mid deal, but who's to know? Anyway, other than feeling grumpy and having a wasted afternoon I'm no worse off than I was this morning and am still in possession of my Girl With Balloon, Love Rat and Gangsta Rat. They're already back on the wall and I'm drinking gin. Cheers. hmmm...wasted afternoon ! i am sorry I couldn't be more helpful. but enjoy your gin ! :-) |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by yorkie on Aug 2, 2017 16:36:26 GMT 1, Nice email and in my opinion a good approach - grahamh made some good points and your considered approach to happily warn people via PM if they need it rather than openly naming the gallery is good!
GLWTS
Yorkie
Nice email and in my opinion a good approach - grahamh made some good points and your considered approach to happily warn people via PM if they need it rather than openly naming the gallery is good!
GLWTS
Yorkie
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 16:42:02 GMT 1, I think the most disappointing thing for me was that although we had had multiple conversations by phone and in writing about the fact that this was to be a bank transfer at the time of sale, the only paperwork he had brought referred to consignment, so actually it appears the plan was never to pay cash. We were even asked to speak to the boss on the phone who then proceeded to tell us how very important they were. I found the employee who came in person very pleasant and polite and would like to believe the apology he gave saying he had not expected his boss to change their mind mid deal, but who's to know? Anyway, other than feeling grumpy and having a wasted afternoon I'm no worse off than I was this morning and am still in possession of my Girl With Balloon, Love Rat and Gangsta Rat. They're already back on the wall and I'm drinking gin. Cheers.
You're a better man than me
i would have spent the money already :-)
Can I ask just being nosey, did they offer more for consignment
Could understand cash offer at one price and consignment price higher as they don't have to hurt cash flow
I think the most disappointing thing for me was that although we had had multiple conversations by phone and in writing about the fact that this was to be a bank transfer at the time of sale, the only paperwork he had brought referred to consignment, so actually it appears the plan was never to pay cash. We were even asked to speak to the boss on the phone who then proceeded to tell us how very important they were. I found the employee who came in person very pleasant and polite and would like to believe the apology he gave saying he had not expected his boss to change their mind mid deal, but who's to know? Anyway, other than feeling grumpy and having a wasted afternoon I'm no worse off than I was this morning and am still in possession of my Girl With Balloon, Love Rat and Gangsta Rat. They're already back on the wall and I'm drinking gin. Cheers. You're a better man than me i would have spent the money already :-) Can I ask just being nosey, did they offer more for consignment Could understand cash offer at one price and consignment price higher as they don't have to hurt cash flow |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by geminii on Aug 2, 2017 16:48:53 GMT 1, Still female here ๐
They tried to get all of them on consignment once we had shaken on the cash deal and then when we said no tried various consignment/cash combinations, e.g. we will pay the Rats and take the GWB, or we will pay the GWB and take the Rats. They didn't offer more for GWB than agreed price and only offered my original asking price as consignment for Rats, as while he was here I had originally agreed to reduce them slightly as a whole package deal for cash. They then offered to pay the reduced price as transfer for Rats only and leave GWB but by then I was no longer interested as the reduction was only as part of the whole deal.
Still female here ๐
They tried to get all of them on consignment once we had shaken on the cash deal and then when we said no tried various consignment/cash combinations, e.g. we will pay the Rats and take the GWB, or we will pay the GWB and take the Rats. They didn't offer more for GWB than agreed price and only offered my original asking price as consignment for Rats, as while he was here I had originally agreed to reduce them slightly as a whole package deal for cash. They then offered to pay the reduced price as transfer for Rats only and leave GWB but by then I was no longer interested as the reduction was only as part of the whole deal.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by geminii on Aug 2, 2017 16:50:12 GMT 1, Sorry, that's sounding confusing even to me. I has gin.
Sorry, that's sounding confusing even to me. I has gin.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Graham H on Aug 2, 2017 16:50:24 GMT 1, geminii Thanks for the response, I didnt put my point up there criticizing / questioning why you hadnt sold the piece.. I was merely saying how I felt about what had happened in the thread..so really, there was no need to respond.. but thanks again
Shame it went the way it did, but, as you have said, you still have some great pieces to hang on your walls and enjoy.. which isnt a bad thing!
Good luck next time if you do look to sell the piece.. im not sure there is a right or wrong way as many forumites can also give numerous examples of private / non gallery sales that have also gone pear shaped resulting in a waste of sellers ( and buyers ) time
Enjoy the gin and the view!
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Im not judging right or wrong, but just putting a level of balance on a sale for a piece that is ' highly sought after' and yet still not selling after 6 weeks. I also appreciate in light of recent potential possible fraud by a 5 starred forumite there is a need to all look out for each other but if the seller wanted to put the details up, im thinking he would have by now had that been his choice. Hi Graham. just to answer the two points I've quoted above: 1)the lack of sale so far is primarily down to me personally as I've had a major roof leak, ceiling collapse and associated clean up and repair work to deal with over the past 5 weeks (still ongoing), so haven't been as proactive as I has planned following up messages and offers in my spare time. I think I've now replied to everyone who contacted me, but if not I apologise as I was swamped. I received numerous offers including some above the price I agreed on for today's deal, but chose to go with this gallery as they are established with a good reputation, and I had agreed an immediate bank transfer ahead of the meeting today. 2) I'm not planning to publicly "name and shame" as I prefer to keep a more private profile and neither do I wish to enter into any public slanging match with the gallery. I am however happy to reply by PM to anyone who is considering a gallery deal and may wish to know the name. I think that's fair? Happy to listen to advice as always from those who know more than me. Cheers.
geminii Thanks for the response, I didnt put my point up there criticizing / questioning why you hadnt sold the piece.. I was merely saying how I felt about what had happened in the thread..so really, there was no need to respond.. but thanks again Shame it went the way it did, but, as you have said, you still have some great pieces to hang on your walls and enjoy.. which isnt a bad thing! Good luck next time if you do look to sell the piece.. im not sure there is a right or wrong way as many forumites can also give numerous examples of private / non gallery sales that have also gone pear shaped resulting in a waste of sellers ( and buyers ) time Enjoy the gin and the view! G Im not judging right or wrong, but just putting a level of balance on a sale for a piece that is ' highly sought after' and yet still not selling after 6 weeks. I also appreciate in light of recent potential possible fraud by a 5 starred forumite there is a need to all look out for each other but if the seller wanted to put the details up, im thinking he would have by now had that been his choice. Hi Graham. just to answer the two points I've quoted above: 1)the lack of sale so far is primarily down to me personally as I've had a major roof leak, ceiling collapse and associated clean up and repair work to deal with over the past 5 weeks (still ongoing), so haven't been as proactive as I has planned following up messages and offers in my spare time. I think I've now replied to everyone who contacted me, but if not I apologise as I was swamped. I received numerous offers including some above the price I agreed on for today's deal, but chose to go with this gallery as they are established with a good reputation, and I had agreed an immediate bank transfer ahead of the meeting today. 2) I'm not planning to publicly "name and shame" as I prefer to keep a more private profile and neither do I wish to enter into any public slanging match with the gallery. I am however happy to reply by PM to anyone who is considering a gallery deal and may wish to know the name. I think that's fair? Happy to listen to advice as always from those who know more than me. Cheers.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 16:51:23 GMT 1, Nice email and in my opinion a good approach - grahamh made some good points and your considered approach to happily warn people via PM if they need it rather than openly naming the gallery is good! GLWTS Yorkie
Nice email and in my opinion a good approach - grahamh made some good points and your considered approach to happily warn people via PM if they need it rather than openly naming the gallery is good! GLWTS Yorkie I agree Yorkie, shows a little more class than plastering the galleries name all over the place, well done OP. |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by geminii on Aug 2, 2017 16:53:49 GMT 1, No criticism understood Graham, just thought it was worth setting the record straight as in theory I could have sold GWB 20 times over by now in a world not filled with water, rubble, plasterers and piles of furniture I can't see over! ๐
No criticism understood Graham, just thought it was worth setting the record straight as in theory I could have sold GWB 20 times over by now in a world not filled with water, rubble, plasterers and piles of furniture I can't see over! ๐
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by pokodogo on Aug 2, 2017 17:01:23 GMT 1, No criticism understood Graham, just thought it was worth setting the record straight as in theory I could have sold Girl With Balloon 20 times over by now in a world not filled with water, rubble, plasterers and piles of furniture I can't see over! ๐
No criticism understood Graham, just thought it was worth setting the record straight as in theory I could have sold Girl With Balloon 20 times over by now in a world not filled with water, rubble, plasterers and piles of furniture I can't see over! ๐ Dont worry about the water , rubble and plaster as long as the Banksys are safe and you have Gin theres always tomorrow |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by WOOF on Aug 2, 2017 17:37:50 GMT 1, In response to the people asking why everyone wants name and shame, it's pretty simple. Just because you realize you're being scammed by a seller, it doesn't mean the 20+ other people the person is attempting to scam realize. By keeping silent, you potentially fucking over every other person that is in the process of completing a deal with the seller. And time is a factor in these instances.
So why protect shady sellers? It's not as though this place is so big that a person can't retract a statement without it getting lost in the shuffle (in case it turns out it was a mistake.) But better safe than sorry.
In response to the people asking why everyone wants name and shame, it's pretty simple. Just because you realize you're being scammed by a seller, it doesn't mean the 20+ other people the person is attempting to scam realize. By keeping silent, you potentially fucking over every other person that is in the process of completing a deal with the seller. And time is a factor in these instances.
So why protect shady sellers? It's not as though this place is so big that a person can't retract a statement without it getting lost in the shuffle (in case it turns out it was a mistake.) But better safe than sorry.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Graham H on Aug 2, 2017 18:09:16 GMT 1, Where does the seller say it's a scam?..
It's bad form of a buyer.. not a shady seller and is not a scam as far as I can see.. and the two are very different.
It stands to reason that scams should be called out.. that wasn't the point I was making
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In response to the people asking why everyone wants name and shame, it's pretty simple. Just because you realize you're being scammed by a seller, it doesn't mean the 20+ other people the person is attempting to scam realize. By keeping silent, you potentially f**kingover every other person that is in the process of completing a deal with the seller. And time is a factor in these instances. So why protect shady sellers? It's not as though this place is so big that a person can't retract a statement without it getting lost in the shuffle (in case it turns out it was a mistake.) But better safe than sorry.
Where does the seller say it's a scam?.. It's bad form of a buyer.. not a shady seller and is not a scam as far as I can see.. and the two are very different. It stands to reason that scams should be called out.. that wasn't the point I was making G In response to the people asking why everyone wants name and shame, it's pretty simple. Just because you realize you're being scammed by a seller, it doesn't mean the 20+ other people the person is attempting to scam realize. By keeping silent, you potentially f**kingover every other person that is in the process of completing a deal with the seller. And time is a factor in these instances. So why protect shady sellers? It's not as though this place is so big that a person can't retract a statement without it getting lost in the shuffle (in case it turns out it was a mistake.) But better safe than sorry. |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by WOOF on Aug 2, 2017 19:16:54 GMT 1, Where does the seller say it's a scam?.. It's bad form of a buyer.. not a shady seller and is not a scam as far as I can see.. and the two are very different. It stands to reason that scams should be called out.. that wasn't the point I was making G In response to the people asking why everyone wants name and shame, it's pretty simple. Just because you realize you're being scammed by a seller, it doesn't mean the 20+ other people the person is attempting to scam realize. By keeping silent, you potentially f**kingover every other person that is in the process of completing a deal with the seller. And time is a factor in these instances. So why protect shady sellers? It's not as though this place is so big that a person can't retract a statement without it getting lost in the shuffle (in case it turns out it was a mistake.) But better safe than sorry.
It seems the last bit I wrote was cut off when I hit submit. I had said that while this isn't the case for this issue in particular, it is something that should be brought up when having the name and shame conversation.
Where does the seller say it's a scam?.. It's bad form of a buyer.. not a shady seller and is not a scam as far as I can see.. and the two are very different. It stands to reason that scams should be called out.. that wasn't the point I was making G In response to the people asking why everyone wants name and shame, it's pretty simple. Just because you realize you're being scammed by a seller, it doesn't mean the 20+ other people the person is attempting to scam realize. By keeping silent, you potentially f**kingover every other person that is in the process of completing a deal with the seller. And time is a factor in these instances. So why protect shady sellers? It's not as though this place is so big that a person can't retract a statement without it getting lost in the shuffle (in case it turns out it was a mistake.) But better safe than sorry. It seems the last bit I wrote was cut off when I hit submit. I had said that while this isn't the case for this issue in particular, it is something that should be brought up when having the name and shame conversation. |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by geminii on Aug 3, 2017 20:27:49 GMT 1, Just a quick thank you for the kind comments yesterday, both on here and lots via PM. Also to clarify - my initial sale is for GWB and once I've sold that I'll be offering my U/S Love Rat and Gangsta Rat for sale. As I had mentioned the Rats in this thread I have understandably had quite a lot of interest via PM but will create a separate thread for them when I sell. (Just in case anyone is wondering they have similar discolouration (far less on Love Rat) to my GWB so if you're after mint, forget it now ๐) The project I have in mind for the cash requires a big initial outlay and without selling GWB I can't achieve this. I had only offered them to the gallery in question yesterday as part of a package with GWB as that would have been ideal. Cheers.
Just a quick thank you for the kind comments yesterday, both on here and lots via PM. Also to clarify - my initial sale is for GWB and once I've sold that I'll be offering my U/S Love Rat and Gangsta Rat for sale. As I had mentioned the Rats in this thread I have understandably had quite a lot of interest via PM but will create a separate thread for them when I sell. (Just in case anyone is wondering they have similar discolouration (far less on Love Rat) to my GWB so if you're after mint, forget it now ๐) The project I have in mind for the cash requires a big initial outlay and without selling GWB I can't achieve this. I had only offered them to the gallery in question yesterday as part of a package with GWB as that would have been ideal. Cheers.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by geminii on Sept 9, 2017 12:29:13 GMT 1, GWB now sold and deal completed. Thanks to forum member (who I won't name as he may not wish to be identified) for a pleasant, straightforward and easy transaction. There are still genuine people out there ๐
GWB now sold and deal completed. Thanks to forum member (who I won't name as he may not wish to be identified) for a pleasant, straightforward and easy transaction. There are still genuine people out there ๐
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by charliem on Sept 18, 2017 16:27:55 GMT 1, coming up for auction at forumauctions.co.uk if anyone after one. Est ยฃ28-32,000
coming up for auction at forumauctions.co.uk if anyone after one. Est ยฃ28-32,000
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