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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by jones27 on Jan 2, 2008 23:11:37 GMT 1, Hi
Newyears resolution to clear my debts etc etc has led me to consider selling my banksy girl with balloon. An unsigned version, it is professionally framed (silver brushed frame) and in excellent condition.
It was bought from art republic. I will need to contact them to get provenance as I have lost the receipt.
Tomtom sold one for £3200 but Id rather sell it privately and not fork out the 20% commission.
Any offers. Please PM.
Cheers
Gareth
Hi
Newyears resolution to clear my debts etc etc has led me to consider selling my banksy girl with balloon. An unsigned version, it is professionally framed (silver brushed frame) and in excellent condition.
It was bought from art republic. I will need to contact them to get provenance as I have lost the receipt.
Tomtom sold one for £3200 but Id rather sell it privately and not fork out the 20% commission.
Any offers. Please PM.
Cheers
Gareth
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Montubu7 on Jan 3, 2008 0:26:01 GMT 1, If you can get provenance i would be interested.
If you can get provenance i would be interested.
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by veralynn on Jan 3, 2008 8:07:54 GMT 1, Hi, I may be able to offer some help, a while back I sold a WSM unsigned and had exactly the same circumstances as you. I bought the print on a credit card and got the exact date of the transaction then approached Art Republic. They were very very good and looked back in their records from 2004 and established that they did sell one on that day. What they couldn't do is confirm the print number as it wasn't so relevant back then but given that I had a credit card receipt and confirmation from Art Rep that they sold one that day that was deemed to be 'good enough'. Good luck!
Hi, I may be able to offer some help, a while back I sold a WSM unsigned and had exactly the same circumstances as you. I bought the print on a credit card and got the exact date of the transaction then approached Art Republic. They were very very good and looked back in their records from 2004 and established that they did sell one on that day. What they couldn't do is confirm the print number as it wasn't so relevant back then but given that I had a credit card receipt and confirmation from Art Rep that they sold one that day that was deemed to be 'good enough'. Good luck!
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by craigf on Jan 3, 2008 9:46:51 GMT 1, Hi Gareth
Apologies if I am teaching my mother how to suck eggs on this one, but it probably a good idea to show how the gallery price is derived and why they are normally more expensive than a private seller.
I think you will need to look at the sale price of your GWB in a couple of ways. Tom Tom has their GWB for around 6 months before selling it (which was on commission and when I spoke with Lawrence back in the summer the owner had a second one he was going to sell straight after so a nice little earner for all involved). Tom Tom as a business has to charge VAT on everything it sells (as this is a print not an original the rate is the full 17.5%) so the net sales price they receive after the governments share is £2,723. This is the actual cost to a company if they bought the piece as companies can recover the VAT. The £2,723 includes Tom Tom's commission, which if it was 20% of the net price means the owner received £2,179 for the print once sold. This is over £1,000 less than the price paid by the new owner.
Based on the above you can assume that net of any bank charges / paypal fees a figure of around £2,200 is as good as you would get from a gallery.
However it seems someone was willing to pay £3,200 from a gallery so you could assume that selling privately and cutting out the middle man you could get more than £2,200 if you find a buyer who doesn't feel the need of getting reassurance from a gallery that the print is legit. If you get the proof of original purchase from AR that should be fine.
I think this gives you a range of pricing so it then ends up being dictated by how risk adverse you are and how quickly you want the money. If you want it quickly stick it on eBay with no reserve and see how you get on or put a reasonable BIN price on it. Alternatively or in parallel put in on auctionsaboteur and save on the listing fees.
I thinking this is a cracking print, they only come up every so often and I'd like one for my wall, but my new year resolution is similar to yours, I need to reduce my credit card balance not increase it!
Good luck with the sale ;D
Hi Gareth
Apologies if I am teaching my mother how to suck eggs on this one, but it probably a good idea to show how the gallery price is derived and why they are normally more expensive than a private seller.
I think you will need to look at the sale price of your GWB in a couple of ways. Tom Tom has their GWB for around 6 months before selling it (which was on commission and when I spoke with Lawrence back in the summer the owner had a second one he was going to sell straight after so a nice little earner for all involved). Tom Tom as a business has to charge VAT on everything it sells (as this is a print not an original the rate is the full 17.5%) so the net sales price they receive after the governments share is £2,723. This is the actual cost to a company if they bought the piece as companies can recover the VAT. The £2,723 includes Tom Tom's commission, which if it was 20% of the net price means the owner received £2,179 for the print once sold. This is over £1,000 less than the price paid by the new owner.
Based on the above you can assume that net of any bank charges / paypal fees a figure of around £2,200 is as good as you would get from a gallery.
However it seems someone was willing to pay £3,200 from a gallery so you could assume that selling privately and cutting out the middle man you could get more than £2,200 if you find a buyer who doesn't feel the need of getting reassurance from a gallery that the print is legit. If you get the proof of original purchase from AR that should be fine.
I think this gives you a range of pricing so it then ends up being dictated by how risk adverse you are and how quickly you want the money. If you want it quickly stick it on eBay with no reserve and see how you get on or put a reasonable BIN price on it. Alternatively or in parallel put in on auctionsaboteur and save on the listing fees.
I thinking this is a cracking print, they only come up every so often and I'd like one for my wall, but my new year resolution is similar to yours, I need to reduce my credit card balance not increase it!
Good luck with the sale ;D
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by dime683 on Jan 3, 2008 17:12:35 GMT 1, thanks craigf, that is helpful.
thanks craigf, that is helpful.
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by jones27 on Jan 3, 2008 18:37:02 GMT 1, yeah useful reading, I forgot about the VAT. Even more reason to avoid the galleries.
I will be PM some pics of the banksy which I am selling. Thanks again to everyone for their interest.
Am looking for around £2600 but open to offers.
yeah useful reading, I forgot about the VAT. Even more reason to avoid the galleries.
I will be PM some pics of the banksy which I am selling. Thanks again to everyone for their interest.
Am looking for around £2600 but open to offers.
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by yapsey on Jan 5, 2008 0:49:10 GMT 1, pm'd.....
pm'd.....
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by jones27 on Jan 9, 2008 23:02:32 GMT 1, Just a quick heads up...my girl with balloon is still for sale.
And now complete with provenance from art republic.
I will sell for £2500.
Its also framed. Being stored flat is much better than kept rolled up in tube. No form of adhesive has been applied.
No haggling or trades please.
Cheers.
Just a quick heads up...my girl with balloon is still for sale.
And now complete with provenance from art republic.
I will sell for £2500.
Its also framed. Being stored flat is much better than kept rolled up in tube. No form of adhesive has been applied.
No haggling or trades please.
Cheers.
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by pokerdonp on Jan 8, 2008 21:05:01 GMT 1, 320205230180
1 day auction
320205230180 1 day auction
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by dotdot on Jan 8, 2008 21:14:31 GMT 1, probably more than i've bid ....
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probably more than i've bid ....
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Winter on Jan 8, 2008 21:18:07 GMT 1, £2.5 from Ebay.
£2.5 from Ebay.
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by mydeaddogwontwoof on Jan 8, 2008 21:19:19 GMT 1, A gwb on a one day auction, why's that then?, (it also looks creased in the top right corner, is this the case?)
A gwb on a one day auction, why's that then?, (it also looks creased in the top right corner, is this the case?)
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by pokerdonp on Jan 8, 2008 21:21:32 GMT 1, A gwb on a one day auction, why's that then?, (it also looks creased in the top right corner, is this the case?)
i was thinking the same thing.
A gwb on a one day auction, why's that then?, (it also looks creased in the top right corner, is this the case?) i was thinking the same thing.
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by babyford on Jan 8, 2008 21:22:19 GMT 1, I love my Girl With Balloon - def worth 2.5k
I love my Girl With Balloon - def worth 2.5k
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by carl on Jan 8, 2008 21:24:56 GMT 1, I love my Girl With Balloon - def worth 2.5k
Any excuse to show this off!!
I love my Girl With Balloon - def worth 2.5k Any excuse to show this off!!
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by mydeaddogwontwoof on Jan 8, 2008 21:27:46 GMT 1, A gwb on a one day auction, why's that then?, (it also looks creased in the top right corner, is this the case?) i was thinking the same thing.
Well, is it?, or is it just a ropey pic?
A gwb on a one day auction, why's that then?, (it also looks creased in the top right corner, is this the case?) i was thinking the same thing. Well, is it?, or is it just a ropey pic?
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by carl on Jan 8, 2008 21:29:54 GMT 1, i was thinking the same thing. Well, is it?, or is it just a ropey pic?
I think its a ropey picture
i was thinking the same thing. Well, is it?, or is it just a ropey pic? I think its a ropey picture
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by loucastel on Jan 8, 2008 21:32:06 GMT 1, i was thinking the same thing. Well, is it?, or is it just a ropey pic? Yea looks like a crease, but nothing a hot iron wouldnt fix, lol.
i was thinking the same thing. Well, is it?, or is it just a ropey pic? Yea looks like a crease, but nothing a hot iron wouldnt fix, lol.
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Gallery Grace on Jan 8, 2008 21:35:29 GMT 1, Very Nice, so what’s the going rate for a signed one?
Very Nice, so what’s the going rate for a signed one?
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by sid on Jan 8, 2008 21:38:50 GMT 1, think the last one sold on ebay end of last year for £11k
think the last one sold on ebay end of last year for £11k
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Gallery Grace on Jan 8, 2008 21:41:46 GMT 1, what 07 or 06?
what 07 or 06?
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by craigf on Jan 8, 2008 21:44:37 GMT 1, There are some great prints coming out of their dusty portfolio's at the moment ;D
Nice frame job Carl, the black mount sets it off very nicely
There are some great prints coming out of their dusty portfolio's at the moment ;D
Nice frame job Carl, the black mount sets it off very nicely
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by carl on Jan 8, 2008 21:46:23 GMT 1,
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by sid on Jan 8, 2008 21:47:42 GMT 1, 07
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Gallery Grace on Jan 8, 2008 21:50:13 GMT 1, Thanks Carl, Sid
Thanks Carl, Sid
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by loucastel on Jan 8, 2008 21:57:16 GMT 1, Looks like a lot of people had an expensive xmas and are having to pay of the credit card, hence a lot of old stuff suddenly apearing
Looks like a lot of people had an expensive xmas and are having to pay of the credit card, hence a lot of old stuff suddenly apearing
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by carl on Jan 8, 2008 21:59:29 GMT 1, Looks like a lot of people had an expensive xmas and are having to pay of the credit card, hence a lot of old stuff suddenly apearing
Yeah, I was thinking that. Just cant ignore this kind of return if you have a bit of debt.
Looks like a lot of people had an expensive xmas and are having to pay of the credit card, hence a lot of old stuff suddenly apearing Yeah, I was thinking that. Just cant ignore this kind of return if you have a bit of debt.
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by babyford on Jan 8, 2008 22:21:58 GMT 1, I love my Girl With Balloon - def worth 2.5k Any excuse to show this off!!
Carl that is beautiful !! - nice frame
I love my Girl With Balloon - def worth 2.5k Any excuse to show this off!! Carl that is beautiful !! - nice frame
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