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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Mar 8, 2019 13:57:34 GMT 1, If anyone is interested in an update... This is all still on-going but hopefully should be closed soon after I found a digital photograph from July 2005 (with embedded metadata) of this and another print on the wall of the my previous flat..I could have cried with relief. The police have also said they have turned up something on a credit card statement of my mothers (my mother didn't have access to these statements as the company closed some time ago). I just want it all to be over asap as it has been very stressful. Apparently the victims have proof of purchase be interesting to know where they purchased it from.
If anyone is interested in an update... This is all still on-going but hopefully should be closed soon after I found a digital photograph from July 2005 (with embedded metadata) of this and another print on the wall of the my previous flat..I could have cried with relief. The police have also said they have turned up something on a credit card statement of my mothers (my mother didn't have access to these statements as the company closed some time ago). I just want it all to be over asap as it has been very stressful. Apparently the victims have proof of purchase be interesting to know where they purchased it from.
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by slevin on Mar 8, 2019 20:51:43 GMT 1, Hopefully this all comes to an end for you soon and in your favour. Keep up posted.
Hopefully this all comes to an end for you soon and in your favour. Keep up posted.
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by Not 4 The Thril on Mar 9, 2019 1:51:38 GMT 1, so was it pest control who notified the police? i hope you get your print back!
so was it pest control who notified the police? i hope you get your print back!
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Mar 11, 2019 18:18:04 GMT 1, so was it pest control who notified the police? i hope you get your print back! Almost definitely and guess what.. Ironically its them who would have had the proof to say actually they bought it from us in 2005 so it couldn't have been stolen in 2011. Instead they had no record of us purchasing it (apparantly) even though as previously stated I have never purchased anything banksy related from anybody but POW (could you even do that in 2005?) resell value would have been minimal as demand wasn't high at the time.
so was it pest control who notified the police? i hope you get your print back! Almost definitely and guess what.. Ironically its them who would have had the proof to say actually they bought it from us in 2005 so it couldn't have been stolen in 2011. Instead they had no record of us purchasing it (apparantly) even though as previously stated I have never purchased anything banksy related from anybody but POW (could you even do that in 2005?) resell value would have been minimal as demand wasn't high at the time.
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by sfnyc on Mar 11, 2019 19:18:44 GMT 1, Is PC compensating you in any way for doing you such wrong?
Is PC compensating you in any way for doing you such wrong?
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Mar 12, 2019 18:48:45 GMT 1, Is PC compensating you in any way for doing you such wrong? I'm waiting for the case to close before re-approaching them
Is PC compensating you in any way for doing you such wrong? I'm waiting for the case to close before re-approaching them
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 19:19:58 GMT 1, Is PC compensating you in any way for doing you such wrong? I'm waiting for the case to close before re-approaching them What sort of compensation do you expect PC to provide given that all they have done is flag something that they thought was suspect ? I appreciate that this has been most unfortunate for you and your family but what they are doing is protecting people like yourself who own Banksy prints.
Is PC compensating you in any way for doing you such wrong? I'm waiting for the case to close before re-approaching them What sort of compensation do you expect PC to provide given that all they have done is flag something that they thought was suspect ? I appreciate that this has been most unfortunate for you and your family but what they are doing is protecting people like yourself who own Banksy prints.
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Mar 13, 2019 17:51:56 GMT 1, I'm waiting for the case to close before re-approaching them What sort of compensation do you expect PC to provide given that all they have done is flag something that they thought was suspect ? I appreciate that this has been most unfortunate for you and your family but what they are doing is protecting people like yourself who own Banksy prints. a) I don't expect compensation and never said I did. But at the least I'd like a speedy COA b) They didn't do a great job of protecting me did they?
I'm waiting for the case to close before re-approaching them What sort of compensation do you expect PC to provide given that all they have done is flag something that they thought was suspect ? I appreciate that this has been most unfortunate for you and your family but what they are doing is protecting people like yourself who own Banksy prints. a) I don't expect compensation and never said I did. But at the least I'd like a speedy COA b) They didn't do a great job of protecting me did they?
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 18:31:06 GMT 1, What sort of compensation do you expect PC to provide given that all they have done is flag something that they thought was suspect ? I appreciate that this has been most unfortunate for you and your family but what they are doing is protecting people like yourself who own Banksy prints. a) I don't expect compensation and never said I did. But at the least I'd like a speedy COA b) They didn't do a great job of protecting me did they? mibbe not in this instance but they have helped others in the past and who knows mibbe yourself one day. Would you rather that they didnt flag something that they believe to be suspect ?
What sort of compensation do you expect PC to provide given that all they have done is flag something that they thought was suspect ? I appreciate that this has been most unfortunate for you and your family but what they are doing is protecting people like yourself who own Banksy prints. a) I don't expect compensation and never said I did. But at the least I'd like a speedy COA b) They didn't do a great job of protecting me did they? mibbe not in this instance but they have helped others in the past and who knows mibbe yourself one day. Would you rather that they didnt flag something that they believe to be suspect ?
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by Rouen Cathedral on Mar 14, 2019 1:42:31 GMT 1, Wait a minute?
They donโt even have records from original buyers?
Sorry but this story would make me question anything PC.
Wait a minute?
They donโt even have records from original buyers?
Sorry but this story would make me question anything PC.
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 7:17:46 GMT 1, Wait a minute? They donโt even have records from original buyers? Sorry but this story would make me question anything PC.
Wait another minute....
Second thoughts dont, I canny be arsed....
Wait a minute? They donโt even have records from original buyers? Sorry but this story would make me question anything PC. Wait another minute.... Second thoughts dont, I canny be arsed....
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Mar 14, 2019 14:43:31 GMT 1, Wait a minute? They donโt even have records from original buyers? Sorry but this story would make me question anything PC. The way I see it... PC evaluate photos and can spot a real from a fake.. POW.. was a s&^t show of dodgy staff making a bit of the side (allegedly) and general incompetence. Especially as number on delivery tube doesn't match print edition (I didn't really see this as a big deal but it was one of the police's big gripes)
Wait a minute? They donโt even have records from original buyers? Sorry but this story would make me question anything PC. The way I see it... PC evaluate photos and can spot a real from a fake.. POW.. was a s&^t show of dodgy staff making a bit of the side (allegedly) and general incompetence. Especially as number on delivery tube doesn't match print edition (I didn't really see this as a big deal but it was one of the police's big gripes)
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Mar 14, 2019 14:48:42 GMT 1, Wait a minute? They donโt even have records from original buyers? Sorry but this story would make me question anything PC. The way I see it... PC evaluate photos and can spot a real from a fake.. POW.. was a s&^t show of dodgy staff making a bit of the side (allegedly) and general incompetence. Especially as number on delivery tube doesn't match print edition (I didn't really see this as a big deal but it was one of the police's big gripes)
If I as going to defend them (POW I would never defend PC) these prints were new. There was little demand (barcode was on their website from late 2004 and I only purchased early 2005) so they never knew they'd need records.. BUT I have heard from a member of staff at a very reputable auction house that was Banksy stoned out of his mind doing the edition numbers and we know mistakes were made and so were the POW staff apparantly
Wait a minute? They donโt even have records from original buyers? Sorry but this story would make me question anything PC. The way I see it... PC evaluate photos and can spot a real from a fake.. POW.. was a s&^t show of dodgy staff making a bit of the side (allegedly) and general incompetence. Especially as number on delivery tube doesn't match print edition (I didn't really see this as a big deal but it was one of the police's big gripes) If I as going to defend them (POW I would never defend PC) these prints were new. There was little demand (barcode was on their website from late 2004 and I only purchased early 2005) so they never knew they'd need records.. BUT I have heard from a member of staff at a very reputable auction house that was Banksy stoned out of his mind doing the edition numbers and we know mistakes were made and so were the POW staff apparantly
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Aug 9, 2019 16:26:59 GMT 1, Update... A few months ago I found digital pictures on Cheetah on the wall from 2005. Metadata alone should have been enough but only after chasing did the case against us finally get dropped about two weeks ago. A huge relief. I have since written again to pest control who haven't even bothered to respond yet.
Update... A few months ago I found digital pictures on Cheetah on the wall from 2005. Metadata alone should have been enough but only after chasing did the case against us finally get dropped about two weeks ago. A huge relief. I have since written again to pest control who haven't even bothered to respond yet.
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Aug 28, 2019 16:52:55 GMT 1, This story is going in a national newspaper in the next few weeks as pest control are still refusing to engage. I will post a link when it goes to press. Thanks to all of you who have offered advice through this thread and PM's throughout.
This story is going in a national newspaper in the next few weeks as pest control are still refusing to engage. I will post a link when it goes to press. Thanks to all of you who have offered advice through this thread and PM's throughout.
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by Lazarus II on Aug 28, 2019 17:05:42 GMT 1, This story is going in a national newspaper in the next few weeks as pest control are still refusing to engage. I will post a link when it goes to press. Thanks to all of you who have offered advice through this thread and PM's throughout. Daily Mail perchance ? They like a good banksy story.
This story is going in a national newspaper in the next few weeks as pest control are still refusing to engage. I will post a link when it goes to press. Thanks to all of you who have offered advice through this thread and PM's throughout. Daily Mail perchance ? They like a good banksy story.
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by michaelk1985 on Aug 28, 2019 17:45:30 GMT 1, This story is going in a national newspaper in the next few weeks as pest control are still refusing to engage. I will post a link when it goes to press. Thanks to all of you who have offered advice through this thread and PM's throughout.
The media is supporting Bansky!! They are afraid to publish something like this. They really are!!
This story is going in a national newspaper in the next few weeks as pest control are still refusing to engage. I will post a link when it goes to press. Thanks to all of you who have offered advice through this thread and PM's throughout. The media is supporting Bansky!! They are afraid to publish something like this. They really are!!
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Aug 28, 2019 18:08:01 GMT 1, This story is going in a national newspaper in the next few weeks as pest control are still refusing to engage. I will post a link when it goes to press. Thanks to all of you who have offered advice through this thread and PM's throughout. The media is supporting Bansky!! They are afraid to publish something like this. They really are!! Not this lot.
This story is going in a national newspaper in the next few weeks as pest control are still refusing to engage. I will post a link when it goes to press. Thanks to all of you who have offered advice through this thread and PM's throughout. The media is supporting Bansky!! They are afraid to publish something like this. They really are!! Not this lot.
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by sgolby on Aug 28, 2019 18:08:19 GMT 1, This story is going in a national newspaper in the next few weeks as pest control are still refusing to engage. I will post a link when it goes to press. Thanks to all of you who have offered advice through this thread and PM's throughout. The media is supporting Bansky!! They are afraid to publish something like this. They really are!! Maybe it is because the story has more holes than a block of swiss cheese. Multiple timeline issues, a very questionable assumption of who the accuser is. To be frank there is no story other than some elderly people were apparently harassed by the police. None of it makes sense to be honest. As for the numbering issues, yes, edition numbers were given away erroneously, however it is my experience, and the experience of others who I have dealt with, that PC has more than compensated for these and other mistakes, as was the case with me.
This story is going in a national newspaper in the next few weeks as pest control are still refusing to engage. I will post a link when it goes to press. Thanks to all of you who have offered advice through this thread and PM's throughout. The media is supporting Bansky!! They are afraid to publish something like this. They really are!! Maybe it is because the story has more holes than a block of swiss cheese. Multiple timeline issues, a very questionable assumption of who the accuser is. To be frank there is no story other than some elderly people were apparently harassed by the police. None of it makes sense to be honest. As for the numbering issues, yes, edition numbers were given away erroneously, however it is my experience, and the experience of others who I have dealt with, that PC has more than compensated for these and other mistakes, as was the case with me.
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by Dexter Bulldog on Aug 28, 2019 19:00:29 GMT 1, The media is supporting Bansky!! They are afraid to publish something like this. They really are!! Maybe it is because the story has more holes than a block of swiss cheese. Multiple timeline issues, a very questionable assumption of who the accuser is. To be frank there is no story other than some elderly people were apparently harassed by the police. None of it makes sense to be honest. As for the numbering issues, yes, edition numbers were given away erroneously, however it is my experience, and the experience of others who I have dealt with, that PC has more than compensated for these and other mistakes, as was the case with me. I donโt remember what I ate for dinner last night, let alone which print I purchased 13 years ago and 15 years ago.
If the case case is closed, then coa should be issued.
The media is supporting Bansky!! They are afraid to publish something like this. They really are!! Maybe it is because the story has more holes than a block of swiss cheese. Multiple timeline issues, a very questionable assumption of who the accuser is. To be frank there is no story other than some elderly people were apparently harassed by the police. None of it makes sense to be honest. As for the numbering issues, yes, edition numbers were given away erroneously, however it is my experience, and the experience of others who I have dealt with, that PC has more than compensated for these and other mistakes, as was the case with me. I donโt remember what I ate for dinner last night, let alone which print I purchased 13 years ago and 15 years ago. If the case case is closed, then coa should be issued.
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by denzil on Aug 28, 2019 20:00:10 GMT 1, what a bunch of wankers they are
what a bunch of wankers they are
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Aug 28, 2019 21:12:23 GMT 1, The media is supporting Bansky!! They are afraid to publish something like this. They really are!! Maybe it is because the story has more holes than a block of swiss cheese. Multiple timeline issues, a very questionable assumption of who the accuser is. To be frank there is no story other than some elderly people were apparently harassed by the police. None of it makes sense to be honest. As for the numbering issues, yes, edition numbers were given away erroneously, however it is my experience, and the experience of others who I have dealt with, that PC has more than compensated for these and other mistakes, as was the case with me. Mate I am happy to post the entire timeline here or PM you I have the exact DAYS things happened. Pls point out the holes you are talking about. Have you actually seen the photos I posted from 2005? How could it have been nicked in 2011 when it was on my folks wall in 2005 you troll?
The media is supporting Bansky!! They are afraid to publish something like this. They really are!! Maybe it is because the story has more holes than a block of swiss cheese. Multiple timeline issues, a very questionable assumption of who the accuser is. To be frank there is no story other than some elderly people were apparently harassed by the police. None of it makes sense to be honest. As for the numbering issues, yes, edition numbers were given away erroneously, however it is my experience, and the experience of others who I have dealt with, that PC has more than compensated for these and other mistakes, as was the case with me. Mate I am happy to post the entire timeline here or PM you I have the exact DAYS things happened. Pls point out the holes you are talking about. Have you actually seen the photos I posted from 2005? How could it have been nicked in 2011 when it was on my folks wall in 2005 you troll?
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by michaelk1985 on Aug 28, 2019 21:18:38 GMT 1, The media is supporting Bansky!! They are afraid to publish something like this. They really are!! Says the guy trying to flog a fake GWRB on ebay
Is it??? I was waiting for the email that you can forward in just -0 seconds. Show me thatโs itโs fake! And I didnโt sell anything and I did delete it. So no damage for anyone right. And if itโs a fake one. I will never post that work again!
The media is supporting Bansky!! They are afraid to publish something like this. They really are!! Says the guy trying to flog a fake GWRB on ebay Is it??? I was waiting for the email that you can forward in just -0 seconds. Show me thatโs itโs fake! And I didnโt sell anything and I did delete it. So no damage for anyone right. And if itโs a fake one. I will never post that work again!
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Aug 28, 2019 21:46:30 GMT 1, Out of interest.. How many forum members have applied for COA's and never received a reply?
Out of interest.. How many forum members have applied for COA's and never received a reply?
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by Lazarus II on Aug 28, 2019 21:49:40 GMT 1, Out of interest.. How many forum members have applied for COA's and never received a reply? not me
Out of interest.. How many forum members have applied for COA's and never received a reply? not me
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by sgolby on Aug 28, 2019 21:53:24 GMT 1, Maybe it is because the story has more holes than a block of swiss cheese. Multiple timeline issues, a very questionable assumption of who the accuser is. To be frank there is no story other than some elderly people were apparently harassed by the police. None of it makes sense to be honest. As for the numbering issues, yes, edition numbers were given away erroneously, however it is my experience, and the experience of others who I have dealt with, that PC has more than compensated for these and other mistakes, as was the case with me. Mate I am happy to post the entire timeline here or PM you I have the exact DAYS things happened. Pls point out the holes you are talking about. Have you actually seen the photos I posted from 2005? How could it have been nicked in 2011 when it was on my folks wall in 2005 you troll? No need for name calling. I just read the Timeline you sent to me and things are much clearer. You should perhaps post that online so that it is clear to everyone. When you were posting bits and bobs in real time, there were many times you backtracked and changed earlier statements. It did not seem as though you had your facts correct. My experience with PC was very different to yours, and involved the authentication of a print which I was told was not authentic despite purchase receipts, etc.
Did you ever find out who the accuser actually was? Calling PC to tell them the case is closed does not make them the people who filed the stolen report.
Was it you or your mother who purchased the print?
If you were in fact the original purchaser, why did you not seek PC authorization?
If it was your mother why did you claim vigorously that you purchased it?
Again, I am just reading this because you posted it on a forum, you don't have to prove anything to me, however it does seem that there are a lot of inconsistencies in your story. Again, you don't have to prove anything to me, but if you post on here about this experience and are claiming that an entity, which many of us have used and whose reputation holds baring on the value of art we own, was essentially accusing you of theft or fraud, then you should be very very very prepared to defend yourself and have all of your facts straight.
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Maybe it is because the story has more holes than a block of swiss cheese. Multiple timeline issues, a very questionable assumption of who the accuser is. To be frank there is no story other than some elderly people were apparently harassed by the police. None of it makes sense to be honest. As for the numbering issues, yes, edition numbers were given away erroneously, however it is my experience, and the experience of others who I have dealt with, that PC has more than compensated for these and other mistakes, as was the case with me. Mate I am happy to post the entire timeline here or PM you I have the exact DAYS things happened. Pls point out the holes you are talking about. Have you actually seen the photos I posted from 2005? How could it have been nicked in 2011 when it was on my folks wall in 2005 you troll? No need for name calling. I just read the Timeline you sent to me and things are much clearer. You should perhaps post that online so that it is clear to everyone. When you were posting bits and bobs in real time, there were many times you backtracked and changed earlier statements. It did not seem as though you had your facts correct. My experience with PC was very different to yours, and involved the authentication of a print which I was told was not authentic despite purchase receipts, etc. Did you ever find out who the accuser actually was? Calling PC to tell them the case is closed does not make them the people who filed the stolen report. Was it you or your mother who purchased the print? If you were in fact the original purchaser, why did you not seek PC authorization? If it was your mother why did you claim vigorously that you purchased it? Again, I am just reading this because you posted it on a forum, you don't have to prove anything to me, however it does seem that there are a lot of inconsistencies in your story. Again, you don't have to prove anything to me, but if you post on here about this experience and are claiming that an entity, which many of us have used and whose reputation holds baring on the value of art we own, was essentially accusing you of theft or fraud, then you should be very very very prepared to defend yourself and have all of your facts straight. S
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by Lazarus II on Aug 28, 2019 22:00:23 GMT 1, Mate I am happy to post the entire timeline here or PM you I have the exact DAYS things happened. Pls point out the holes you are talking about. Have you actually seen the photos I posted from 2005? How could it have been nicked in 2011 when it was on my folks wall in 2005 you troll? No need for name calling.ย I just read the Timeline you sent to me and things are much clearer.ย You should perhaps post that online so that it is clear to everyone.ย When you were posting bits and bobs in real time, there were many times you backtracked and changed earlier statements.ย It did not seem as though you had your facts correct.ย My experience with PC was very different to yours, and involved the authentication of a print which I was told was not authentic despite purchase receipts, etc. Did you ever find out who the accuser actually was?ย Calling PC to tell them the case is closed does not make them the people who filed the stolen report. Was it you or your mother who purchased the print? If you were in fact the original purchaser, why did you not seek PC authorization?ย If it was your mother why did you claim vigorously that you purchased it? Again, I am just reading this because you posted it on a forum, you don't have to prove anything to me, however it does seem that there are a lot of inconsistencies in your story.ย Again, you don't have to prove anything to me, but if you post on here about this experience and are claiming that an entity, which many of us have used and whose reputation holds baring on the value of art we own, was essentially accusing you of theft or fraud, then you should be very very very prepared to defend yourself and have all of your facts straight. Sย ย the Daily Mail will clarify all.
Mate I am happy to post the entire timeline here or PM you I have the exact DAYS things happened. Pls point out the holes you are talking about. Have you actually seen the photos I posted from 2005? How could it have been nicked in 2011 when it was on my folks wall in 2005 you troll? No need for name calling.ย I just read the Timeline you sent to me and things are much clearer.ย You should perhaps post that online so that it is clear to everyone.ย When you were posting bits and bobs in real time, there were many times you backtracked and changed earlier statements.ย It did not seem as though you had your facts correct.ย My experience with PC was very different to yours, and involved the authentication of a print which I was told was not authentic despite purchase receipts, etc. Did you ever find out who the accuser actually was?ย Calling PC to tell them the case is closed does not make them the people who filed the stolen report. Was it you or your mother who purchased the print? If you were in fact the original purchaser, why did you not seek PC authorization?ย If it was your mother why did you claim vigorously that you purchased it? Again, I am just reading this because you posted it on a forum, you don't have to prove anything to me, however it does seem that there are a lot of inconsistencies in your story.ย Again, you don't have to prove anything to me, but if you post on here about this experience and are claiming that an entity, which many of us have used and whose reputation holds baring on the value of art we own, was essentially accusing you of theft or fraud, then you should be very very very prepared to defend yourself and have all of your facts straight. Sย ย the Daily Mail will clarify all.
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Aug 28, 2019 22:23:25 GMT 1, Mate I am happy to post the entire timeline here or PM you I have the exact DAYS things happened. Pls point out the holes you are talking about. Have you actually seen the photos I posted from 2005? How could it have been nicked in 2011 when it was on my folks wall in 2005 you troll? No need for name calling. OK apologies. Its just frustrating when all that really matters at this stage is whether PC believe the print is authentic (Which i'm 99.9% it is because there wasn't a market for fakes in 2005. If they think its authentic they should issue a COA it they don't they should say so. What they shouldn't do is ignore me and the people who are contacting them in the hope we will go away. I just read the Timeline you sent to me and things are much clearer. You should perhaps post that online so that it is clear to everyone. When you were posting bits and bobs in real time, there were many times you backtracked and changed earlier statements. It did not seem as though you had your facts correct. My experience with PC was very different to yours, and involved the authentication of a print which I was told was not authentic despite purchase receipts, etc. I have had another print authenticated and it was a very straight forward process and their communication was good. That was however several years ago. Did you ever find out who the accuser actually was? Calling PC to tell them the case is closed does not make them the people who filed the stolen report. Nope just a person in south london who claims to have had the same edition number stolen from their domestic property in 2011. Some of this will be lost in translation. You aren't in the UK and the average burglar in the UK wouldn't know a banksy from a picasso. They are usually junkies who just want small things they can smuggle out without detection. But thats another story and an easy case to have made had it actually gone to courtWas it you or your mother who purchased the print? We now believe it was my mother as it would show on my bank statement like the other POW purchase. Unless POW were so out of it they forgot to charge me.. It was joint present but I think my mum paid. Hell it was 14 years ago now. If you were in fact the original purchaser, why did you not seek PC authorization? AS previously stated I only realised COA were a thing when my donuts print turned up with one. Thats when I applied for one for my other print and was successful. My parents owned barcode and I kept hassling them to apply for for a COA but they didn't get round to it til 2018. I guess if they would have applied anytime between 2011 - 2018 we would have had the same outcome. If it was your mother why did you claim vigorously that you purchased it?my mother It was a joint purchase we paid 50/50 we just weren't sure who's account the money came out ofAgain, I am just reading this because you posted it on a forum, you don't have to prove anything to me, however it does seem that there are a lot of inconsistencies in your story. Again, you don't have to prove anything to me, but if you post on here about this experience and are claiming that an entity, which many of us have used and whose reputation holds baring on the value of art we own, was essentially accusing you of theft or fraud, then you should be very very very prepared to defend yourself and have all of your facts straight. S PC has never accused me of anything.. You are misunderstanding or haven't read events correctly. The police have obviously provided them with a list of prints that have been reported stolen..We applied to COA. PC tell the police etc... But as someone has kindly PM-ed me today stating PC do seem to operate a guilty until proven innocent policy. I think mostly they should leave policing to police. EG:- If I was annoyed that I had sold a banksy years ago to someone for cash and it was now worth loads of money. Why not call and have it reported stolen? Seems to be a particular consequence-free act to me. I wish my last 15 months had been consequence free but I've actually had to take time off work with stress and at once stage was threatened with arrest for not being able to make an appointment to 'help' the police.
On a happier note. You are in New York. Have you heard of santlov? Just purchased a print of his. Love his work.
Mate I am happy to post the entire timeline here or PM you I have the exact DAYS things happened. Pls point out the holes you are talking about. Have you actually seen the photos I posted from 2005? How could it have been nicked in 2011 when it was on my folks wall in 2005 you troll? No need for name calling. OK apologies. Its just frustrating when all that really matters at this stage is whether PC believe the print is authentic (Which i'm 99.9% it is because there wasn't a market for fakes in 2005. If they think its authentic they should issue a COA it they don't they should say so. What they shouldn't do is ignore me and the people who are contacting them in the hope we will go away. I just read the Timeline you sent to me and things are much clearer. You should perhaps post that online so that it is clear to everyone. When you were posting bits and bobs in real time, there were many times you backtracked and changed earlier statements. It did not seem as though you had your facts correct. My experience with PC was very different to yours, and involved the authentication of a print which I was told was not authentic despite purchase receipts, etc. I have had another print authenticated and it was a very straight forward process and their communication was good. That was however several years ago. Did you ever find out who the accuser actually was? Calling PC to tell them the case is closed does not make them the people who filed the stolen report. Nope just a person in south london who claims to have had the same edition number stolen from their domestic property in 2011. Some of this will be lost in translation. You aren't in the UK and the average burglar in the UK wouldn't know a banksy from a picasso. They are usually junkies who just want small things they can smuggle out without detection. But thats another story and an easy case to have made had it actually gone to courtWas it you or your mother who purchased the print? We now believe it was my mother as it would show on my bank statement like the other POW purchase. Unless POW were so out of it they forgot to charge me.. It was joint present but I think my mum paid. Hell it was 14 years ago now. If you were in fact the original purchaser, why did you not seek PC authorization? AS previously stated I only realised COA were a thing when my donuts print turned up with one. Thats when I applied for one for my other print and was successful. My parents owned barcode and I kept hassling them to apply for for a COA but they didn't get round to it til 2018. I guess if they would have applied anytime between 2011 - 2018 we would have had the same outcome. If it was your mother why did you claim vigorously that you purchased it?my mother It was a joint purchase we paid 50/50 we just weren't sure who's account the money came out ofAgain, I am just reading this because you posted it on a forum, you don't have to prove anything to me, however it does seem that there are a lot of inconsistencies in your story. Again, you don't have to prove anything to me, but if you post on here about this experience and are claiming that an entity, which many of us have used and whose reputation holds baring on the value of art we own, was essentially accusing you of theft or fraud, then you should be very very very prepared to defend yourself and have all of your facts straight. S PC has never accused me of anything.. You are misunderstanding or haven't read events correctly. The police have obviously provided them with a list of prints that have been reported stolen..We applied to COA. PC tell the police etc... But as someone has kindly PM-ed me today stating PC do seem to operate a guilty until proven innocent policy. I think mostly they should leave policing to police. EG:- If I was annoyed that I had sold a banksy years ago to someone for cash and it was now worth loads of money. Why not call and have it reported stolen? Seems to be a particular consequence-free act to me. I wish my last 15 months had been consequence free but I've actually had to take time off work with stress and at once stage was threatened with arrest for not being able to make an appointment to 'help' the police.
On a happier note. You are in New York. Have you heard of santlov? Just purchased a print of his. Love his work.
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withnail69
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April 2018
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Aug 28, 2019 22:26:20 GMT 1, No need for name calling. I just read the Timeline you sent to me and things are much clearer. You should perhaps post that online so that it is clear to everyone. When you were posting bits and bobs in real time, there were many times you backtracked and changed earlier statements. It did not seem as though you had your facts correct. My experience with PC was very different to yours, and involved the authentication of a print which I was told was not authentic despite purchase receipts, etc. Did you ever find out who the accuser actually was? Calling PC to tell them the case is closed does not make them the people who filed the stolen report. Was it you or your mother who purchased the print? If you were in fact the original purchaser, why did you not seek PC authorization? If it was your mother why did you claim vigorously that you purchased it? Again, I am just reading this because you posted it on a forum, you don't have to prove anything to me, however it does seem that there are a lot of inconsistencies in your story. Again, you don't have to prove anything to me, but if you post on here about this experience and are claiming that an entity, which many of us have used and whose reputation holds baring on the value of art we own, was essentially accusing you of theft or fraud, then you should be very very very prepared to defend yourself and have all of your facts straight. S the Daily Mail will clarify all. It's not the daily mail and even though you are joking. There is a chance you may be correct.
No need for name calling. I just read the Timeline you sent to me and things are much clearer. You should perhaps post that online so that it is clear to everyone. When you were posting bits and bobs in real time, there were many times you backtracked and changed earlier statements. It did not seem as though you had your facts correct. My experience with PC was very different to yours, and involved the authentication of a print which I was told was not authentic despite purchase receipts, etc. Did you ever find out who the accuser actually was? Calling PC to tell them the case is closed does not make them the people who filed the stolen report. Was it you or your mother who purchased the print? If you were in fact the original purchaser, why did you not seek PC authorization? If it was your mother why did you claim vigorously that you purchased it? Again, I am just reading this because you posted it on a forum, you don't have to prove anything to me, however it does seem that there are a lot of inconsistencies in your story. Again, you don't have to prove anything to me, but if you post on here about this experience and are claiming that an entity, which many of us have used and whose reputation holds baring on the value of art we own, was essentially accusing you of theft or fraud, then you should be very very very prepared to defend yourself and have all of your facts straight. S the Daily Mail will clarify all. It's not the daily mail and even though you are joking. There is a chance you may be correct.
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1970hopper
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August 2018
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by 1970hopper on Aug 28, 2019 22:29:40 GMT 1, Says the guy trying to flog a fake GWRB on ebay Is it??? I was waiting for the email that you can forward in just -0 seconds. Show me thatโs itโs fake! And I didnโt sell anything and I did delete it. So no damage for anyone right. And if itโs a fake one. I will never post that work again! So no damage for anyone right. And if itโs a fake one. I will never post that work again!
FFS
to be or not to be that is the question
Says the guy trying to flog a fake GWRB on ebay Is it??? I was waiting for the email that you can forward in just -0 seconds. Show me thatโs itโs fake! And I didnโt sell anything and I did delete it. So no damage for anyone right. And if itโs a fake one. I will never post that work again! So no damage for anyone right. And if itโs a fake one. I will never post that work again! FFS to be or not to be that is the question
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