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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 10:28:59 GMT 1, Only ever bank transfer if meeting in person, you have zero payment protection if you just send someone money and you simply won't see it again, police will likely do little to nothing as when you pay by bank transfer it could be totally unrelated to the communications made. If someone is shipping to you, always pay via Paypal (I have broken my own rule before but only for small values) or find a way to pay on a credit card over a free bigcartel shop or something. That way you are protected if goods are not received. I know a lot of people have said before to pay in cash, but I would even more so discourage anyone doing that. You've all heard of the gumtree scams where they ask for cash and then rob you when you meet them. Imagine doing that with ยฃ2k in your pocket. When I buy anything I always insist on a 10% deposit sent up front, and then do a bank transfer via banking app once the artwork has been seen in person - be it at a house or motorway services - makes the whole process much safer. Hopefully things get sorted for you.
That's good advice. Next time I will definitely follow this, deposit and deal in person makes sense.
It's been a combination of Mash doing a deal and being too busy to keep me updated and me being nervous, as this is my first deal and I knew I had little rights due to bank transfer.
Mash has assured me he is a straight up guy and I do believe him, so I apologise for going this route. Hopefully we can sort this out and have a beer! I didn't intend to do any damage to his reputation, but I didn't know what else to do and I think he can see it from my perspective too. Communication is key and it only takes a few seconds to send a message.
Only ever bank transfer if meeting in person, you have zero payment protection if you just send someone money and you simply won't see it again, police will likely do little to nothing as when you pay by bank transfer it could be totally unrelated to the communications made. If someone is shipping to you, always pay via Paypal (I have broken my own rule before but only for small values) or find a way to pay on a credit card over a free bigcartel shop or something. That way you are protected if goods are not received. I know a lot of people have said before to pay in cash, but I would even more so discourage anyone doing that. You've all heard of the gumtree scams where they ask for cash and then rob you when you meet them. Imagine doing that with ยฃ2k in your pocket. When I buy anything I always insist on a 10% deposit sent up front, and then do a bank transfer via banking app once the artwork has been seen in person - be it at a house or motorway services - makes the whole process much safer. Hopefully things get sorted for you. That's good advice. Next time I will definitely follow this, deposit and deal in person makes sense. It's been a combination of Mash doing a deal and being too busy to keep me updated and me being nervous, as this is my first deal and I knew I had little rights due to bank transfer. Mash has assured me he is a straight up guy and I do believe him, so I apologise for going this route. Hopefully we can sort this out and have a beer! I didn't intend to do any damage to his reputation, but I didn't know what else to do and I think he can see it from my perspective too. Communication is key and it only takes a few seconds to send a message. |
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by irl1 on Aug 23, 2018 10:32:03 GMT 1, Only ever bank transfer if meeting in person, you have zero payment protection if you just send someone money and you simply won't see it again, police will likely do little to nothing as when you pay by bank transfer it could be totally unrelated to the communications made. If someone is shipping to you, always pay via Paypal (I have broken my own rule before but only for small values) or find a way to pay on a credit card over a free bigcartel shop or something. That way you are protected if goods are not received. I know a lot of people have said before to pay in cash, but I would even more so discourage anyone doing that. You've all heard of the gumtree scams where they ask for cash and then rob you when you meet them. Imagine doing that with ยฃ2k in your pocket. When I buy anything I always insist on a 10% deposit sent up front, and then do a bank transfer via banking app once the artwork has been seen in person - be it at a house or motorway services - makes the whole process much safer. Hopefully things get sorted for you.
We had it over here in Ireland, people showing up with cash and getting robbed.
Another thing i do if it must be cash........ "Always meet outside a police station"  , and i mean outside their front door were its busy.
Well i hope you sort this, best of luck
Only ever bank transfer if meeting in person, you have zero payment protection if you just send someone money and you simply won't see it again, police will likely do little to nothing as when you pay by bank transfer it could be totally unrelated to the communications made. If someone is shipping to you, always pay via Paypal (I have broken my own rule before but only for small values) or find a way to pay on a credit card over a free bigcartel shop or something. That way you are protected if goods are not received. I know a lot of people have said before to pay in cash, but I would even more so discourage anyone doing that. You've all heard of the gumtree scams where they ask for cash and then rob you when you meet them. Imagine doing that with ยฃ2k in your pocket. When I buy anything I always insist on a 10% deposit sent up front, and then do a bank transfer via banking app once the artwork has been seen in person - be it at a house or motorway services - makes the whole process much safer. Hopefully things get sorted for you. Great advice. paypal can work out a little more but at least you can get your money back. We had it over here in Ireland, people showing up with cash and getting robbed. Another thing i do if it must be cash........ "Always meet outside a police station" , and i mean outside their front door were its busy. Well i hope you sort this, best of luck |
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by Dive Jedi on Aug 23, 2018 13:52:27 GMT 1, Very sorry to hear this. Indeed long membership or many stars don't mean anything. Also unsure why you would pay by bank if he would drop them of 2 days later. Cash payment would have been possible then. Why he would refund you now and not deliver the art purchased? Or give you the opportunity to pick it up if he is not able to bring it for some reason. Since you are both in UK, I would say a Police report is the next step. You have his name and bank account#, whats app messages etc. Make screenshots of everything you have. There might be members on here who have sold to Mash and have his adress. I have quoted his posts for you, because when he deletes them they are gone otherwiseโฆ.. Hope this turns out as big misunderstanding, but I'm afraid it's not. Thanks for the advice. Well as it happens, I've just heard from Mash. We are going to sort this out. Seems to be a case of him just being crazy busy. It's a shame it had to come to me making this post, I really didn't want to make it public. All it would have taken was a quick phone call or message to let me know what was happening. I apologise to him for making this post, but I think he can see from my perspective why I did. As long as we can sort it out, all good.
But to be fair I think you have been very patient already, so hardly need to apologise.
Not a few quid either, so I can understand one would get a bit nervous in this situation.
Glad Mash reached out and will sort it now.
Very sorry to hear this. Indeed long membership or many stars don't mean anything. Also unsure why you would pay by bank if he would drop them of 2 days later. Cash payment would have been possible then. Why he would refund you now and not deliver the art purchased? Or give you the opportunity to pick it up if he is not able to bring it for some reason. Since you are both in UK, I would say a Police report is the next step. You have his name and bank account#, whats app messages etc. Make screenshots of everything you have. There might be members on here who have sold to Mash and have his adress. I have quoted his posts for you, because when he deletes them they are gone otherwiseโฆ.. Hope this turns out as big misunderstanding, but I'm afraid it's not. Thanks for the advice. Well as it happens, I've just heard from Mash. We are going to sort this out. Seems to be a case of him just being crazy busy. It's a shame it had to come to me making this post, I really didn't want to make it public. All it would have taken was a quick phone call or message to let me know what was happening. I apologise to him for making this post, but I think he can see from my perspective why I did. As long as we can sort it out, all good. Well, I was about to post it was rather surprising, since Mash appears to be a solid member. But to be fair I think you have been very patient already, so hardly need to apologise. Not a few quid either, so I can understand one would get a bit nervous in this situation. Glad Mash reached out and will sort it now. |
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by rambo901 on Aug 23, 2018 15:01:02 GMT 1, Only ever bank transfer if meeting in person, you have zero payment protection if you just send someone money and you simply won't see it again, police will likely do little to nothing as when you pay by bank transfer it could be totally unrelated to the communications made. If someone is shipping to you, always pay via Paypal (I have broken my own rule before but only for small values) or find a way to pay on a credit card over a free bigcartel shop or something. That way you are protected if goods are not received. I know a lot of people have said before to pay in cash, but I would even more so discourage anyone doing that. You've all heard of the gumtree scams where they ask for cash and then rob you when you meet them. Imagine doing that with ยฃ2k in your pocket. When I buy anything I always insist on a 10% deposit sent up front, and then do a bank transfer via banking app once the artwork has been seen in person - be it at a house or motorway services - makes the whole process much safer. Hopefully things get sorted for you.
Good advice around deposit then rest when met up. I find location being my biggest challenge so not able to meet fellow members. I normally pay on PayPal using my credit card as you're covered up to ยฃ30k by the bank too. As it's the bank's money you get it through the system quicker.
The bank wouldn't do much if you paid via transfer as you've willing sent someone your money.
Only ever bank transfer if meeting in person, you have zero payment protection if you just send someone money and you simply won't see it again, police will likely do little to nothing as when you pay by bank transfer it could be totally unrelated to the communications made. If someone is shipping to you, always pay via Paypal (I have broken my own rule before but only for small values) or find a way to pay on a credit card over a free bigcartel shop or something. That way you are protected if goods are not received. I know a lot of people have said before to pay in cash, but I would even more so discourage anyone doing that. You've all heard of the gumtree scams where they ask for cash and then rob you when you meet them. Imagine doing that with ยฃ2k in your pocket. When I buy anything I always insist on a 10% deposit sent up front, and then do a bank transfer via banking app once the artwork has been seen in person - be it at a house or motorway services - makes the whole process much safer. Hopefully things get sorted for you. Good advice around deposit then rest when met up. I find location being my biggest challenge so not able to meet fellow members. I normally pay on PayPal using my credit card as you're covered up to ยฃ30k by the bank too. As it's the bank's money you get it through the system quicker. The bank wouldn't do much if you paid via transfer as you've willing sent someone your money. |
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by mack on Aug 23, 2018 18:50:49 GMT 1, Thanks for the advice. Well as it happens, I've just heard from Mash. We are going to sort this out. Seems to be a case of him just being crazy busy. It's a shame it had to come to me making this post, I really didn't want to make it public. All it would have taken was a quick phone call or message to let me know what was happening. I apologise to him for making this post, but I think he can see from my perspective why I did. As long as we can sort it out, all good. Well, I was about to post it was rather surprising, since Mash appears to be a solid member. But to be fair I think you have been very patient already, so hardly need to apologise. Not a few quid either, so I can understand one would get a bit nervous in this situation. Glad Mash reached out and will sort it now.
Thanks for the advice. Well as it happens, I've just heard from Mash. We are going to sort this out. Seems to be a case of him just being crazy busy. It's a shame it had to come to me making this post, I really didn't want to make it public. All it would have taken was a quick phone call or message to let me know what was happening. I apologise to him for making this post, but I think he can see from my perspective why I did. As long as we can sort it out, all good. Well, I was about to post it was rather surprising, since Mash appears to be a solid member. But to be fair I think you have been very patient already, so hardly need to apologise. Not a few quid either, so I can understand one would get a bit nervous in this situation. Glad Mash reached out and will sort it now. I actually spoke to Paypal in regards to another purchase I made through here. They told me they wouldn't cover any cost (fraud or damages) unless it wasn't sold via an online store or an auction, even tough you pay the extra 4%. Apparently they need to be able to refer to a "store-front" of the product to the insurance company and a forum thread, or PM's, isn't enough. |
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by mack on Aug 23, 2018 18:58:33 GMT 1, Point being that you are just as covered (not at all) with the FF-option, which is also cheaper.
Point being that you are just as covered (not at all) with the FF-option, which is also cheaper.
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by k2 on Aug 23, 2018 19:19:58 GMT 1, Point being that you are just as covered (not at all) with the FF-option, which is also cheaper. As mentioned above, if you use a credit card (not debit) over Paypal, then Visa will cover ยฃ30,000 worth of fraud regardless of what service you used. So besides a face to face bank transfer, Credit card over Paypal is probably the next safest. www.moneysupermarket.com/credit-cards/guide-to-credit-card-protection/
Very difficult to prove fraud in a private sale.
Protection when buying something from a business? No problem. When buying something from an individual? My guess is that the credit card companies will weasel their way out of that quite easily.
Point being that you are just as covered (not at all) with the FF-option, which is also cheaper. As mentioned above, if you use a credit card (not debit) over Paypal, then Visa will cover ยฃ30,000 worth of fraud regardless of what service you used. So besides a face to face bank transfer, Credit card over Paypal is probably the next safest. www.moneysupermarket.com/credit-cards/guide-to-credit-card-protection/Very difficult to prove fraud in a private sale. Protection when buying something from a business? No problem. When buying something from an individual? My guess is that the credit card companies will weasel their way out of that quite easily. |
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by galaxy01 on Aug 23, 2018 19:21:41 GMT 1, Interesting, also just read up on the protection, apparently credit card companies will only protect if direct payment to the other party is made. You can still make a direct payment via paypal, but not to a random paypal user via Gift it does in fact only keep the Credit Card protection if you for example pay on an online store using Paypal and a Credit Card.
Just always meet face to face where possible if you don't know much about the seller, and dont carry cash. No major horror stories recently in here though which is good.
Interesting, also just read up on the protection, apparently credit card companies will only protect if direct payment to the other party is made. You can still make a direct payment via paypal, but not to a random paypal user via Gift it does in fact only keep the Credit Card protection if you for example pay on an online store using Paypal and a Credit Card.
Just always meet face to face where possible if you don't know much about the seller, and dont carry cash. No major horror stories recently in here though which is good.
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by crashwilliams on Aug 23, 2018 21:24:44 GMT 1, Just came across this thread, sounds like youve been extremely patient re this. I hope its resolved soon.
Just came across this thread, sounds like youve been extremely patient re this. I hope its resolved soon.
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by Ponyboy Curtis on Aug 24, 2018 9:07:02 GMT 1, Paypal saved my ass to the tune of ยฃ6.5k when a deal on here went south. That was pant wetting I can tell you. I can almost forgive their fees and shite exchange rates now.
Paypal saved my ass to the tune of ยฃ6.5k when a deal on here went south. That was pant wetting I can tell you. I can almost forgive their fees and shite exchange rates now.
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by Flashback on Aug 24, 2018 15:00:10 GMT 1, Paypal saved my ass to the tune of ยฃ6.5k when a deal on here went south. That was pant wetting I can tell you. I can almost forgive their fees ands**te exchange rates now.
Paypal saved my ass to the tune of ยฃ6.5k when a deal on here went south. That was pant wetting I can tell you. I can almost forgive their fees ands**te exchange rates now. Whenever you're paying international on Paypal and it's not fastest finger first, ask for a Paypal invoice to be created and sent to you and pay using guest not your own account, choose to pay in their own currency (it's gives you the option between that and using Paypal's exchange rate) and use a no fee card e.g. Revolut or Barclays Clarity and you will skip Paypal's pish exchange rate. |
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by mack on Aug 24, 2018 16:14:46 GMT 1, Paypal saved my ass to the tune of ยฃ6.5k when a deal on here went south. That was pant wetting I can tell you. I can almost forgive their fees ands**te exchange rates now.
Paypal saved my ass to the tune of ยฃ6.5k when a deal on here went south. That was pant wetting I can tell you. I can almost forgive their fees ands**te exchange rates now. Really? That's good news, maybe I just talked to a "rookie", to put it nicely.. |
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 9:37:04 GMT 1, I was going to write out the whole story, but I can't be bothered so I'll just give the short version. The good news is that I got most my money back after a few further delays and excuses. The bad news is that he 'accidentally' sent me 250 pounds less and keeps letting me down when he says he's going to send the remaining amount. Last Wednesday he said he had sent it over, but he didn't send the confirmation when I asked and the money never arrived. His behavior has been truly ridiculous and has wasted a huge amount of my time. It's also stressed me out a fair bit which is hard to do as I'm a very laid back person! I'd be incredibly embarrassed if I was him, but I'm going to take the high road and keep the finer details to myself. I had to say something though, if he does come back on here I strongly recommend you avoid dealing with him.
I told him yesterday that after 2 and half months I'd run out of my considerable patience and would go down the small claims route now. He didn't reply as usual. I read online that I should send a letter first asking for payment by a certain date or otherwise I'll start the process off, does that sound right to anyone that knows about these things? It was easy to find his address with a quick google search so shouldn't be too difficult to do.
Thanks for all the advice earlier in the thread, I have definitely taken it on board. I never should have paid it all up front and my wife was happy to point out to me that this was f*cking obvious! lol.
I look forward to better deals with other people on here in the future.
I was going to write out the whole story, but I can't be bothered so I'll just give the short version. The good news is that I got most my money back after a few further delays and excuses. The bad news is that he 'accidentally' sent me 250 pounds less and keeps letting me down when he says he's going to send the remaining amount. Last Wednesday he said he had sent it over, but he didn't send the confirmation when I asked and the money never arrived. His behavior has been truly ridiculous and has wasted a huge amount of my time. It's also stressed me out a fair bit which is hard to do as I'm a very laid back person! I'd be incredibly embarrassed if I was him, but I'm going to take the high road and keep the finer details to myself. I had to say something though, if he does come back on here I strongly recommend you avoid dealing with him.
I told him yesterday that after 2 and half months I'd run out of my considerable patience and would go down the small claims route now. He didn't reply as usual. I read online that I should send a letter first asking for payment by a certain date or otherwise I'll start the process off, does that sound right to anyone that knows about these things? It was easy to find his address with a quick google search so shouldn't be too difficult to do.
Thanks for all the advice earlier in the thread, I have definitely taken it on board. I never should have paid it all up front and my wife was happy to point out to me that this was f*cking obvious! lol.
I look forward to better deals with other people on here in the future.
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by irl1 on Sept 19, 2018 9:46:03 GMT 1, Your one of the lucky one's, this could have gone very bad for you. My advice, put it behind you and move on, lesson learnt.
What the wife said about the obvious bit, that really can't apply to here as most deals here go okay.
Bring the wife out tonight and tomorrow pretend it never happened.
Your one of the lucky one's, this could have gone very bad for you. My advice, put it behind you and move on, lesson learnt. What the wife said about the obvious bit, that really can't apply to here as most deals here go okay. Bring the wife out tonight and tomorrow pretend it never happened. |
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 10:09:07 GMT 1, Your one of the lucky one's, this could have gone very bad for you. My advice, put it behind you and move on, lesson learnt. What the wife said about the obvious bit, that really can't apply to here as most deals here go okay. Bring the wife out tonight and tomorrow pretend it never happened.
You could be right, in fact you definitely are right... but at the same time I have already put so much time into this that it's hard to just let him off the hook. Plus I reckon I'd be pretty good in court room, I've always loved that scene from A Few Good Men...
That's true, I'm sure most deals go just fine. Just a bid of bad luck really, as you say could have gone much worse and I'm a lot more chilled about it now I got most the money back.
And unfortunately I've got some weird eye infection so can't take the wife out today. Hoping it clears up by the weekend, she's quite keen to check out the new Dan Hillier show.
Your one of the lucky one's, this could have gone very bad for you. My advice, put it behind you and move on, lesson learnt. What the wife said about the obvious bit, that really can't apply to here as most deals here go okay. Bring the wife out tonight and tomorrow pretend it never happened. You could be right, in fact you definitely are right... but at the same time I have already put so much time into this that it's hard to just let him off the hook. Plus I reckon I'd be pretty good in court room, I've always loved that scene from A Few Good Men... That's true, I'm sure most deals go just fine. Just a bid of bad luck really, as you say could have gone much worse and I'm a lot more chilled about it now I got most the money back. And unfortunately I've got some weird eye infection so can't take the wife out today. Hoping it clears up by the weekend, she's quite keen to check out the new Dan Hillier show. |
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by irl1 on Sept 19, 2018 13:57:51 GMT 1, Sorry to hear your not well. It seems a bit odd why he paid back so much and then went cool on you. Maybe its money problems or whatever, but really he could have paid you noting and just went hiding. Yes you could have chased him down, then it would have went on for years (courts i mean)
I had this problem before with a so called friend. It took me over 4 years and i aged 40 fucking years trying to do it. During that 4 years i had to see him come and go from his house every day. My stress levels went through the roof then one day i just lost it. The whole thing consumed my life to a point where it affected my marriage.
Yes forget the 250 and be thankful its not the full amount your chasing .
Sorry to hear your not well. It seems a bit odd why he paid back so much and then went cool on you. Maybe its money problems or whatever, but really he could have paid you noting and just went hiding. Yes you could have chased him down, then it would have went on for years (courts i mean) I had this problem before with a so called friend. It took me over 4 years and i aged 40 fucking years trying to do it. During that 4 years i had to see him come and go from his house every day. My stress levels went through the roof then one day i just lost it. The whole thing consumed my life to a point where it affected my marriage. Yes forget the 250 and be thankful its not the full amount your chasing . |
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 14:12:54 GMT 1, Sorry to hear your not well. It seems a bit odd why he paid back so much and then went cool on you. Maybe its money problems or whatever, but really he could have paid you noting and just went hiding. Yes you could have chased him down, then it would have went on for years (courts i mean) I had this problem before with a so called friend. It took me over 4 years and i aged 40 f**kingyears trying to do it. During that 4 years i had to see him come and go from his house every day. My stress levels went through the roof then one day i just lost it. The whole thing consumed my life to a point where it affected my marriage. Yes forget the 250 and be thankful its not the full amount your chasing .
Anyway, like you say.. no point letting this consume any more of my life. I guess he'll read this and I'll leave it up to him what he wants to do. I'll move on.
Sorry to hear your not well. It seems a bit odd why he paid back so much and then went cool on you. Maybe its money problems or whatever, but really he could have paid you noting and just went hiding. Yes you could have chased him down, then it would have went on for years (courts i mean) I had this problem before with a so called friend. It took me over 4 years and i aged 40 f**kingyears trying to do it. During that 4 years i had to see him come and go from his house every day. My stress levels went through the roof then one day i just lost it. The whole thing consumed my life to a point where it affected my marriage. Yes forget the 250 and be thankful its not the full amount your chasing . Exactly, those are the thoughts I've been wrestling with. It certainly wasn't a scam and he hasn't blocked me or anything. I don't think he ever intended this to happen, maybe it started off with a small lie and just got out of control. I can fully understand that if you get cash and expect to hand over art that you might have plans for that cash and spend some of it straight away. But why not just be honest? I'd still have taken the art if he would actually got it to me. After two days where I waited in and no delivery arrived without so much a heads up I thought a refund would be easier. Anyway, like you say.. no point letting this consume any more of my life. I guess he'll read this and I'll leave it up to him what he wants to do. I'll move on. |
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by irl1 on Sept 19, 2018 14:23:22 GMT 1, Yes fully agree. Hope that black eye the wife gave you clears up soon 
It does look like he just got side tracked with money and then had to take cover until he could pay you back.
Looks like he never intended for this to happen, so maybe sometime he will be back to you again.
Anyway don't forget that night out with the wife, oh boy do i know what you must have been hearing from the wife while this was going on 
Yes fully agree. Hope that black eye the wife gave you clears up soon It does look like he just got side tracked with money and then had to take cover until he could pay you back. Looks like he never intended for this to happen, so maybe sometime he will be back to you again. Anyway don't forget that night out with the wife, oh boy do i know what you must have been hearing from the wife while this was going on |
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by sfnyc on Sept 23, 2018 8:20:03 GMT 1, Wow OP you were too kind, not sure how this goes in the UK but i d expect your lawyer fees get reimbursed by the defendant if you took him to court and win (easy here). He stills owes you money after that and he never sold you the piece? Get a lawyer and get a criminal record slapped on this dude.
Wow OP you were too kind, not sure how this goes in the UK but i d expect your lawyer fees get reimbursed by the defendant if you took him to court and win (easy here). He stills owes you money after that and he never sold you the piece? Get a lawyer and get a criminal record slapped on this dude.
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by Winks on Sept 23, 2018 9:24:48 GMT 1, Is just too easy for this guy to open another account and carry on these shenanigans
Is just too easy for this guy to open another account and carry on these shenanigans
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by Express Post on Sept 23, 2018 9:37:17 GMT 1, Inexcusable behaviour by the seller.
If you can't fulfil your side of the agreement within days of receipt of funds, then don't sell. There should be zero excuses.
Crucify the funker.
Inexcusable behaviour by the seller.
If you can't fulfil your side of the agreement within days of receipt of funds, then don't sell. There should be zero excuses.
Crucify the funker.
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 10:15:54 GMT 1, Inexcusable behaviour by the seller. If you can't fulfil your side of the agreement within days of receipt of funds, then don't sell. There should be zero excuses. Crucify the funker.
It really is that simple and after further reflection I'm not going to drop this, have done research about small claims process and a "letter before action" will be going out tomorrow.
Inexcusable behaviour by the seller. If you can't fulfil your side of the agreement within days of receipt of funds, then don't sell. There should be zero excuses. Crucify the funker. It really is that simple and after further reflection I'm not going to drop this, have done research about small claims process and a "letter before action" will be going out tomorrow. |
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by T-Bro on Sept 23, 2018 11:44:18 GMT 1, it all seems very odd - hes had that account since 2007 - i know i wouldn't risk the reputation on this forum for ยฃ250. very weird. I hope @jt36 gets all his money back
it all seems very odd - hes had that account since 2007 - i know i wouldn't risk the reputation on this forum for ยฃ250. very weird. I hope @jt36 gets all his money back
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by Express Post on Oct 11, 2018 8:47:28 GMT 1, Where'd this end up? You all sorted?
Hoping for a resolution.
Inexcusable behaviour by the seller. If you can't fulfil your side of the agreement within days of receipt of funds, then don't sell. There should be zero excuses. Crucify the funker. It really is that simple and after further reflection I'm not going to drop this, have done research about small claims process and a "letter before action" will be going out tomorrow.
Where'd this end up? You all sorted? Hoping for a resolution. Inexcusable behaviour by the seller. If you can't fulfil your side of the agreement within days of receipt of funds, then don't sell. There should be zero excuses. Crucify the funker. It really is that simple and after further reflection I'm not going to drop this, have done research about small claims process and a "letter before action" will be going out tomorrow. |
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by skAcid on Oct 11, 2018 10:24:45 GMT 1, You've been skanked dude, send round the boys!
You've been skanked dude, send round the boys!
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by John The Badgers on Oct 11, 2018 13:42:09 GMT 1, Sorry to hear this JT36.
If its any help, I have used the small claims service very successfully on numerous occasions, and found it a great way of recovering a debt.
Spend plenty of time collating all your evidence, e-mails etc, and take plenty of time with the first 'warning' letter, explaining exactly the timescales of what will happen, and what you intend to do. Keep it formal so you are exactly following the process required of you.
When you make your claim, I wouldn't be afraid of adding cost to cover your time, don't forget the court fees. I have found if you get to this stage, they are more than likely to pay, as the repercussions of getting CCJ's would not really be worth it for them.
I would add, a very painless process, in what appears to be a very simple situation like this, I think you will find it very effective.
Hope you get sorted.
Sorry to hear this JT36.
If its any help, I have used the small claims service very successfully on numerous occasions, and found it a great way of recovering a debt.
Spend plenty of time collating all your evidence, e-mails etc, and take plenty of time with the first 'warning' letter, explaining exactly the timescales of what will happen, and what you intend to do. Keep it formal so you are exactly following the process required of you.
When you make your claim, I wouldn't be afraid of adding cost to cover your time, don't forget the court fees. I have found if you get to this stage, they are more than likely to pay, as the repercussions of getting CCJ's would not really be worth it for them.
I would add, a very painless process, in what appears to be a very simple situation like this, I think you will find it very effective.
Hope you get sorted.
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by lucyloo on Oct 11, 2018 14:59:50 GMT 1,
Send this lad over he'll collect
Send this lad over he'll collect
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by Deleted on Oct 11, 2018 22:02:41 GMT 1, Sorry to hear this JT36. If its any help, I have used the small claims service very successfully on numerous occasions, and found it a great way of recovering a debt. Spend plenty of time collating all your evidence, e-mails etc, and take plenty of time with the first 'warning' letter, explaining exactly the timescales of what will happen, and what you intend to do. Keep it formal so you are exactly following the process required of you. When you make your claim, I wouldn't be afraid of adding cost to cover your time, don't forget the court fees. I have found if you get to this stage, they are more than likely to pay, as the repercussions of getting CCJ's would not really be worth it for them. I would add, a very painless process, in what appears to be a very simple situation like this, I think you will find it very effective. Hope you get sorted.
That does help thanks. I've written the letter after reading some advice on various sites (I've done it formally as you said), so going to send that off tomorrow. Good to hear the process was painless. Hopefully the letter alone does the trick but if not I'm happy to go the court route.
Sorry to hear this JT36. If its any help, I have used the small claims service very successfully on numerous occasions, and found it a great way of recovering a debt. Spend plenty of time collating all your evidence, e-mails etc, and take plenty of time with the first 'warning' letter, explaining exactly the timescales of what will happen, and what you intend to do. Keep it formal so you are exactly following the process required of you. When you make your claim, I wouldn't be afraid of adding cost to cover your time, don't forget the court fees. I have found if you get to this stage, they are more than likely to pay, as the repercussions of getting CCJ's would not really be worth it for them. I would add, a very painless process, in what appears to be a very simple situation like this, I think you will find it very effective. Hope you get sorted.
That does help thanks. I've written the letter after reading some advice on various sites (I've done it formally as you said), so going to send that off tomorrow. Good to hear the process was painless. Hopefully the letter alone does the trick but if not I'm happy to go the court route.
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by Express Post on Oct 12, 2018 0:12:15 GMT 1, By the sound of it, you still haven't received the rest of your money. The seller is one dum kent. Creating a world of problems for themselves.
Please don't let them get away. You have the forum's support.
Sorry to hear this JT36. If its any help, I have used the small claims service very successfully on numerous occasions, and found it a great way of recovering a debt. Spend plenty of time collating all your evidence, e-mails etc, and take plenty of time with the first 'warning' letter, explaining exactly the timescales of what will happen, and what you intend to do. Keep it formal so you are exactly following the process required of you. When you make your claim, I wouldn't be afraid of adding cost to cover your time, don't forget the court fees. I have found if you get to this stage, they are more than likely to pay, as the repercussions of getting CCJ's would not really be worth it for them. I would add, a very painless process, in what appears to be a very simple situation like this, I think you will find it very effective. Hope you get sorted.
That does help thanks. I've written the letter after reading some advice on various sites (I've done it formally as you said), so going to send that off tomorrow. Good to hear the process was painless. Hopefully the letter alone does the trick but if not I'm happy to go the court route.
By the sound of it, you still haven't received the rest of your money. The seller is one dum kent. Creating a world of problems for themselves. Please don't let them get away. You have the forum's support. Sorry to hear this JT36. If its any help, I have used the small claims service very successfully on numerous occasions, and found it a great way of recovering a debt. Spend plenty of time collating all your evidence, e-mails etc, and take plenty of time with the first 'warning' letter, explaining exactly the timescales of what will happen, and what you intend to do. Keep it formal so you are exactly following the process required of you. When you make your claim, I wouldn't be afraid of adding cost to cover your time, don't forget the court fees. I have found if you get to this stage, they are more than likely to pay, as the repercussions of getting CCJ's would not really be worth it for them. I would add, a very painless process, in what appears to be a very simple situation like this, I think you will find it very effective. Hope you get sorted.
That does help thanks. I've written the letter after reading some advice on various sites (I've done it formally as you said), so going to send that off tomorrow. Good to hear the process was painless. Hopefully the letter alone does the trick but if not I'm happy to go the court route.
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Pejac Dran now sold shrigley Brantley added, by John The Badgers on Oct 12, 2018 11:38:51 GMT 1, Sorry to hear this JT36. If its any help, I have used the small claims service very successfully on numerous occasions, and found it a great way of recovering a debt. Spend plenty of time collating all your evidence, e-mails etc, and take plenty of time with the first 'warning' letter, explaining exactly the timescales of what will happen, and what you intend to do. Keep it formal so you are exactly following the process required of you. When you make your claim, I wouldn't be afraid of adding cost to cover your time, don't forget the court fees. I have found if you get to this stage, they are more than likely to pay, as the repercussions of getting CCJ's would not really be worth it for them. I would add, a very painless process, in what appears to be a very simple situation like this, I think you will find it very effective. Hope you get sorted.
That does help thanks. I've written the letter after reading some advice on various sites (I've done it formally as you said), so going to send that off tomorrow. Good to hear the process was painless. Hopefully the letter alone does the trick but if not I'm happy to go the court route.
Failing that, I'll give you Big Franks number, he can visit with his special pliers, makes that fella above look like a 5 day old kitten.
All the best.
Sorry to hear this JT36. If its any help, I have used the small claims service very successfully on numerous occasions, and found it a great way of recovering a debt. Spend plenty of time collating all your evidence, e-mails etc, and take plenty of time with the first 'warning' letter, explaining exactly the timescales of what will happen, and what you intend to do. Keep it formal so you are exactly following the process required of you. When you make your claim, I wouldn't be afraid of adding cost to cover your time, don't forget the court fees. I have found if you get to this stage, they are more than likely to pay, as the repercussions of getting CCJ's would not really be worth it for them. I would add, a very painless process, in what appears to be a very simple situation like this, I think you will find it very effective. Hope you get sorted.
That does help thanks. I've written the letter after reading some advice on various sites (I've done it formally as you said), so going to send that off tomorrow. Good to hear the process was painless. Hopefully the letter alone does the trick but if not I'm happy to go the court route.
The initial letter probably wont do the trick JT36, but it then allows you after the required time to officially launch the claim. Its at this point when you have to detail what you are claiming and why, when I'm sure you will get a reaction. Its important here when you enter this 'official' stage that you are strong with your claim, all details/correspondence, proof of payments etc, basically being able to illustrate via documented proof what this fella has done. He then has the right to reply, but if you have put your case strongly and correctly, little he can argue. He also has to weigh up if the potential of CCJ's against him is worth it, particularly if he is a business owner which I think he is, I'd imagine this will spark him into action. Failing that, I'll give you Big Franks number, he can visit with his special pliers, makes that fella above look like a 5 day old kitten. All the best. |
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, and i mean outside their front door were its busy. 
