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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 21:43:03 GMT 1, Honestly if you knew me i just say it as it is, i do get what youre saying, i guess im just giving an opinion from the front line so to speak, its shocking how many people out there can drop 10,20,50k LA alone is dripping with deep pocket art buyers, nevermind london, NYC, middle east, asia etc With the amount of works available i just cant see a shortage of buyers, i get emails from galleries in the states every week interested in banksy, i dabbled a bit with warhol from 2002-2008 but the demand for banksy due to whats available is crazy, the galleries in the states where stockists of Warhol/haring/litchenstein etc and their focus has shifted to Banksy, sounds onesided but its what i see happening I disagree with the one line about galleries (at least in LA where I'm located) who have shifted their focus away from Warhol/haring/litchenstein to Banksys. I'm pretty well informed of the LA gallery scene with many close friends who are gallery owners. Most don't even deal with Banksys - I can't even remember the last time I saw a banksy print hanging in an LA gallery. They view the banksy secondary market as an online exchange or virtual gallery/.com gallery sales, which is usually consignment or put up an insane asking price, once someone buys it then scramble to search for the print type of business. Which happens a lot. No to mention totally different collector/target market with not much overlap between the two groups. Most of the real warhol/harring/litch collectors see Banksy as a fad or plainly just don't "get" the art. At least when it comes the "deep pocket buyers" in LA.  The NYC galleries where exactly the same, High end seasoned collectors have been wary of banksy because hes not going through the system they know, not represented by galleries, not being influenced and directed but its getting difficult for anyone to say hes a fad, time will tell, its interesting for sure
Honestly if you knew me i just say it as it is, i do get what youre saying, i guess im just giving an opinion from the front line so to speak, its shocking how many people out there can drop 10,20,50k LA alone is dripping with deep pocket art buyers, nevermind london, NYC, middle east, asia etc With the amount of works available i just cant see a shortage of buyers, i get emails from galleries in the states every week interested in banksy, i dabbled a bit with warhol from 2002-2008 but the demand for banksy due to whats available is crazy, the galleries in the states where stockists of Warhol/haring/litchenstein etc and their focus has shifted to Banksy, sounds onesided but its what i see happening I disagree with the one line about galleries (at least in LA where I'm located) who have shifted their focus away from Warhol/haring/litchenstein to Banksys. I'm pretty well informed of the LA gallery scene with many close friends who are gallery owners. Most don't even deal with Banksys - I can't even remember the last time I saw a banksy print hanging in an LA gallery. They view the banksy secondary market as an online exchange or virtual gallery/.com gallery sales, which is usually consignment or put up an insane asking price, once someone buys it then scramble to search for the print type of business. Which happens a lot. No to mention totally different collector/target market with not much overlap between the two groups. Most of the real warhol/harring/litch collectors see Banksy as a fad or plainly just don't "get" the art. At least when it comes the "deep pocket buyers" in LA. sorry the galleries are in nyc mostly who are contacting, in regards to la i have quite a few great clients so maybe the galleries arent paying attention "yet" but give it time The NYC galleries where exactly the same, High end seasoned collectors have been wary of banksy because hes not going through the system they know, not represented by galleries, not being influenced and directed but its getting difficult for anyone to say hes a fad, time will tell, its interesting for sure |
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 22:21:30 GMT 1, Someone give me some evidence to prove us trolleys are now 3k, I'm sorry but this image in all its forms is a ridiculously large edition
Can galleries please remove themselves from these conversations please???
No ones listening but there's a group on this forum who've in the last year been constantly buying, hyping, buying again and selling Banksys particularly unsigned and then a group who've been lapping it all up. It's fucking dangerous and not going to end well although there's a few bastards who've made a good deal of money from it.
Someone give me some evidence to prove us trolleys are now 3k, I'm sorry but this image in all its forms is a ridiculously large edition
Can galleries please remove themselves from these conversations please???
No ones listening but there's a group on this forum who've in the last year been constantly buying, hyping, buying again and selling Banksys particularly unsigned and then a group who've been lapping it all up. It's fucking dangerous and not going to end well although there's a few bastards who've made a good deal of money from it.
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 22:36:26 GMT 1, Someone give me some evidence to prove us trolleys are now 3k, I'm sorry but this image in all its forms is a ridiculously large edition Can galleries please remove themselves from these conversations please??? No ones listening but there's a group on this forum who've in the last year been constantly buying, hyping, buying again and selling Banksys particularly unsigned and then a group who've been lapping it all up. It's f**king dangerous and not going to end well although there's a few bastards who've made a good deal of money from it.
Someone give me some evidence to prove us trolleys are now 3k, I'm sorry but this image in all its forms is a ridiculously large edition Can galleries please remove themselves from these conversations please??? No ones listening but there's a group on this forum who've in the last year been constantly buying, hyping, buying again and selling Banksys particularly unsigned and then a group who've been lapping it all up. It's f**king dangerous and not going to end well although there's a few bastards who've made a good deal of money from it. Sorry BR but im giving a genuine opinion as i see it, ive inside knowledge from dealing on a daily basis, im not hyping bambi or mbw im telling you whats going on from my poiny of view, id have thought that was relevant but if members want me to say nothing ill clear off |
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Poster Bob on Jan 10, 2015 22:42:37 GMT 1, No, having just checked it looks like they increased it to a maximum of £250 so if you're selling a Banksy it's still a good place to list.
Ebay's max fee is £100 so when you're dealing with Banksy prints you're certainly not going to take off 10%. You're incorrect. They raised it. It's at 10% and they also take the 10% off the shipping too. So price of item + listen shipping x 10% = fee. Then calculate your paypal fee of 3% off the total amount received (which also includes shipping). You're at 13%.
No, having just checked it looks like they increased it to a maximum of £250 so if you're selling a Banksy it's still a good place to list. Ebay's max fee is £100 so when you're dealing with Banksy prints you're certainly not going to take off 10%. You're incorrect. They raised it. It's at 10% and they also take the 10% off the shipping too. So price of item + listen shipping x 10% = fee. Then calculate your paypal fee of 3% off the total amount received (which also includes shipping). You're at 13%. |
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 22:45:19 GMT 1, The economy went to s**te 6 years ago, worst recession in 80 years, still in that recession, banksy has risen pretty dramatically through it. Its been said before but the amount of his work available in comparison to demand is tiny, lots of investors, collectors, people who save etc across the globe looking his work, in my eyes its early days, therell be calming periods like with cyw and nola which had massive jumps 1000/month at one stage but then people turn to other prints like rats nbg etc, then unsigned, when the gap narrows attention will go back to signed and so on, call it hype but im just saying it as it is imo lol
The economy went to s**te 6 years ago, worst recession in 80 years, still in that recession, banksy has risen pretty dramatically through it. Its been said before but the amount of his work available in comparison to demand is tiny, lots of investors, collectors, people who save etc across the globe looking his work, in my eyes its early days, therell be calming periods like with cyw and nola which had massive jumps 1000/month at one stage but then people turn to other prints like rats nbg etc, then unsigned, when the gap narrows attention will go back to signed and so on, call it hype but im just saying it as it is imo lol Thats insightful, well done you win first prize! Its a secret hand gesture, im giving it to you right now |
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 22:50:25 GMT 1, Someone give me some evidence to prove us trolleys are now 3k, I'm sorry but this image in all its forms is a ridiculously large edition Can galleries please remove themselves from these conversations please??? No ones listening but there's a group on this forum who've in the last year been constantly buying, hyping, buying again and selling Banksys particularly unsigned and then a group who've been lapping it all up. It's f**king dangerous and not going to end well although there's a few bastards who've made a good deal of money from it. Sorry BR but im giving a genuine opinion as i see it, ive inside knowledge from dealing on a daily basis, im not hyping bambi or mbw im telling you whats going on from my poiny of view, id have thought that was relevant but if members want me to say nothing ill clear off
price rises of 300% or so are ludicrous, if you can afford to take a hit if it comes then it doesn't matter.
Someone give me some evidence to prove us trolleys are now 3k, I'm sorry but this image in all its forms is a ridiculously large edition Can galleries please remove themselves from these conversations please??? No ones listening but there's a group on this forum who've in the last year been constantly buying, hyping, buying again and selling Banksys particularly unsigned and then a group who've been lapping it all up. It's f**king dangerous and not going to end well although there's a few bastards who've made a good deal of money from it. Sorry BR but im giving a genuine opinion as i see it, ive inside knowledge from dealing on a daily basis, im not hyping bambi or mbw im telling you whats going on from my poiny of view, id have thought that was relevant but if members want me to say nothing ill clear off But surely you only see the market from one perspective and that's the one which is distorted? Quite a lot of the art discussed on here is within the means of reasonably well off people but Banksy prints are almost an asset class in themselves? price rises of 300% or so are ludicrous, if you can afford to take a hit if it comes then it doesn't matter. |
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Poly Mindset on Jan 10, 2015 23:02:46 GMT 1, Sorry BR but im giving a genuine opinion as i see it, ive inside knowledge from dealing on a daily basis, im not hyping bambi or mbw im telling you whats going on from my poiny of view, id have thought that was relevant but if members want me to say nothing ill clear off But surely you only see the market from one perspective and that's the one which is distorted? Quite a lot of the art discussed on here is within the means of reasonably well off people but Banksy prints are almost an asset class in themselves? price rises of 300% or so are ludicrous, if you can afford to take a hit if it comes then it doesn't matter. Please, nobody needs to clear off. Everyone's view is valuable, it gives people perspective. Additionally, information is the most valuable commodity so if we can share something with one another on this forum I think we are all a little better off. Everybody stays!!
Sorry BR but im giving a genuine opinion as i see it, ive inside knowledge from dealing on a daily basis, im not hyping bambi or mbw im telling you whats going on from my poiny of view, id have thought that was relevant but if members want me to say nothing ill clear off But surely you only see the market from one perspective and that's the one which is distorted? Quite a lot of the art discussed on here is within the means of reasonably well off people but Banksy prints are almost an asset class in themselves? price rises of 300% or so are ludicrous, if you can afford to take a hit if it comes then it doesn't matter. Please, nobody needs to clear off. Everyone's view is valuable, it gives people perspective. Additionally, information is the most valuable commodity so if we can share something with one another on this forum I think we are all a little better off. Everybody stays!! |
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 23:02:54 GMT 1, Someone give me some evidence to prove us trolleys are now 3k, I'm sorry but this image in all its forms is a ridiculously large edition Can galleries please remove themselves from these conversations please??? No ones listening but there's a group on this forum who've in the last year been constantly buying, hyping, buying again and selling Banksys particularly unsigned and then a group who've been lapping it all up. It's f**king dangerous and not going to end well although there's a few bastards who've made a good deal of money from it. Sorry BR but im giving a genuine opinion as i see it, ive inside knowledge from dealing on a daily basis, im not hyping bambi or mbw im telling you whats going on from my poiny of view, id have thought that was relevant but if members want me to say nothing ill clear off
Bambi  We're talking about banksy and you have a vested interest, I dnt want you to go - just be aware that you're obviously interested in a booming market for his work and there are gullibles here who won't see that
Someone give me some evidence to prove us trolleys are now 3k, I'm sorry but this image in all its forms is a ridiculously large edition Can galleries please remove themselves from these conversations please??? No ones listening but there's a group on this forum who've in the last year been constantly buying, hyping, buying again and selling Banksys particularly unsigned and then a group who've been lapping it all up. It's f**king dangerous and not going to end well although there's a few bastards who've made a good deal of money from it. Sorry BR but im giving a genuine opinion as i see it, ive inside knowledge from dealing on a daily basis, im not hyping bambi or mbw im telling you whats going on from my poiny of view, id have thought that was relevant but if members want me to say nothing ill clear off Bambi We're talking about banksy and you have a vested interest, I dnt want you to go - just be aware that you're obviously interested in a booming market for his work and there are gullibles here who won't see that |
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 23:06:38 GMT 1, Sorry BR but im giving a genuine opinion as i see it, ive inside knowledge from dealing on a daily basis, im not hyping bambi or mbw im telling you whats going on from my poiny of view, id have thought that was relevant but if members want me to say nothing ill clear off But surely you only see the market from one perspective and that's the one which is distorted? Quite a lot of the art discussed on here is within the means of reasonably well off people but Banksy prints are almost an asset class in themselves? price rises of 300% or so are ludicrous, if you can afford to take a hit if it comes then it doesn't matter.
Sorry BR but im giving a genuine opinion as i see it, ive inside knowledge from dealing on a daily basis, im not hyping bambi or mbw im telling you whats going on from my poiny of view, id have thought that was relevant but if members want me to say nothing ill clear off But surely you only see the market from one perspective and that's the one which is distorted? Quite a lot of the art discussed on here is within the means of reasonably well off people but Banksy prints are almost an asset class in themselves? price rises of 300% or so are ludicrous, if you can afford to take a hit if it comes then it doesn't matter. It might seem distorted to some people but to me its real, its what im doing, if you believe something it's reality, might be unreal to others, im only saying my truth im not saying others opinions are wrong, thats what they believe so its real to them, just talking from personal experience like everyone else on here, would be disappointing for me to get labelled as a hyper etc, im adding what i know through experience |
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 23:08:27 GMT 1, But surely you only see the market from one perspective and that's the one which is distorted? Quite a lot of the art discussed on here is within the means of reasonably well off people but Banksy prints are almost an asset class in themselves? price rises of 300% or so are ludicrous, if you can afford to take a hit if it comes then it doesn't matter. It might seem distorted to some people but to me its real, its what im doing, if you believe something it's reality, might be unreal to others, im only saying my truth im not saying others opinions are wrong, thats what they believe so its real to them, just talking from personal experience like everyone else on here, would be disappointing for me to get labelled as a hyper etc, im adding what i know through experience
You have a vested financial interest
But surely you only see the market from one perspective and that's the one which is distorted? Quite a lot of the art discussed on here is within the means of reasonably well off people but Banksy prints are almost an asset class in themselves? price rises of 300% or so are ludicrous, if you can afford to take a hit if it comes then it doesn't matter. It might seem distorted to some people but to me its real, its what im doing, if you believe something it's reality, might be unreal to others, im only saying my truth im not saying others opinions are wrong, thats what they believe so its real to them, just talking from personal experience like everyone else on here, would be disappointing for me to get labelled as a hyper etc, im adding what i know through experience [br You have a vested financial interest |
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Fish in the Sea on Jan 11, 2015 0:42:09 GMT 1, For sale
Mint Banksy Un-Signed BW Trollies
Never been framed, stored flat
Comes with fresh COA from Pest Control
London based
Face to face deal only
2,800 GBP
For sale
Mint Banksy Un-Signed BW Trollies
Never been framed, stored flat
Comes with fresh COA from Pest Control
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Cornish Crayon on Jan 11, 2015 0:55:48 GMT 1, Bargain!!!!!!!
Bargain!!!!!!!
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Oski on Jan 11, 2015 1:02:28 GMT 1, Where's Json24? Get in touch with the dude pronto!!!
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by cmodart on Jan 11, 2015 1:03:12 GMT 1, Where's Json24? Get in touch with the dude pronto!!!
He wants signed.
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 1:07:53 GMT 1, Thats insightful, well done you win first prize! Its a secret hand gesture, im giving it to you right now Your economic round up is wrong imo. Banksy dropped a s**t load in mid/late 2008 after a massive gain just like we have seen over the last couple of years. Most of the world has been out of recession a few years now and this was when the market started to increase. Reliable economic commentators are generally in agreement that the world is on the brink of a massive economic crash. There isn't a come back for anonymous posters talking up prices like they will never fall but fair enough you appear to be willing to put your rep on the line with your forecasts.
Thats insightful, well done you win first prize! Its a secret hand gesture, im giving it to you right now Your economic round up is wrong imo. Banksy dropped a s**t load in mid/late 2008 after a massive gain just like we have seen over the last couple of years. Most of the world has been out of recession a few years now and this was when the market started to increase. Reliable economic commentators are generally in agreement that the world is on the brink of a massive economic crash. There isn't a come back for anonymous posters talking up prices like they will never fall but fair enough you appear to be willing to put your rep on the line with your forecasts. Kimble, you think the world has been out of recession a couple years?? Banksy dropped like everything 2008 with the biggest recession in 80 years kicked in.....my point is his prices have risen throughout the recession, yes the last couple years moreso but let me ask you this, how much knowledge do you actually have of the banksy market aside from reading prices on a forum. I am willing to put neck on the line as i buy stock, my necks on the line as much as my clients.. |
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by cmodart on Jan 11, 2015 1:09:22 GMT 1,
re bargain - someone was trying to sell one, and probably still is, at £3k on the forum. Not sure if it deserves half a dozen exclamation marks is all I'm sayin'
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re bargain - someone was trying to sell one, and probably still is, at £3k on the forum. Not sure if it deserves half a dozen exclamation marks is all I'm sayin' GLWTS |
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Oski on Jan 11, 2015 1:09:22 GMT 1, Where's Json24? Get in touch with the dude pronto!!! He wants signed.
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by kimble on Jan 11, 2015 1:35:57 GMT 1, Your economic round up is wrong imo. Banksy dropped a s**t load in mid/late 2008 after a massive gain just like we have seen over the last couple of years. Most of the world has been out of recession a few years now and this was when the market started to increase. Reliable economic commentators are generally in agreement that the world is on the brink of a massive economic crash. There isn't a come back for anonymous posters talking up prices like they will never fall but fair enough you appear to be willing to put your rep on the line with your forecasts. Kimble, you think the world has been out of recession a couple years?? Banksy dropped like everything 2008 with the biggest recession in 80 years kicked in.....my point is his prices have risen throughout the recession, yes the last couple years moreso but let me ask you this, how much knowledge do you actually have of the banksy market aside from reading prices on a forum. I am willing to put neck on the line as i buy stock, my necks on the line as much as my clients..
Your economic round up is wrong imo. Banksy dropped a s**t load in mid/late 2008 after a massive gain just like we have seen over the last couple of years. Most of the world has been out of recession a few years now and this was when the market started to increase. Reliable economic commentators are generally in agreement that the world is on the brink of a massive economic crash. There isn't a come back for anonymous posters talking up prices like they will never fall but fair enough you appear to be willing to put your rep on the line with your forecasts. Kimble, you think the world has been out of recession a couple years?? Banksy dropped like everything 2008 with the biggest recession in 80 years kicked in.....my point is his prices have risen throughout the recession, yes the last couple years moreso but let me ask you this, how much knowledge do you actually have of the banksy market aside from reading prices on a forum. I am willing to put neck on the line as i buy stock, my necks on the line as much as my clients.. A recession is a fall in GDP in two successive quarters. Yes, most of the world has been out of recession for at least the last couple of years. The UK surpassed its pre-recession peak mid last year. I don't doubt you know what bank sys are selling for right now, I haven't bought a banksy since the cyw release and haven't sold any. I remember a lot of people buying at peak got burnt in '08 then when their jobs were uncertain they couldn't sell for anything like they bought for, and banksy didn't rise throughout the recession... pretty much the only street artist that did go up around then was os gemeos because they were so undervalued financially pre-recession then got a few good gallery showings. Just think it's risky for a gallery to give out forecasts for future price trends. |
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 1:52:22 GMT 1, Kimble, you think the world has been out of recession a couple years?? Banksy dropped like everything 2008 with the biggest recession in 80 years kicked in.....my point is his prices have risen throughout the recession, yes the last couple years moreso but let me ask you this, how much knowledge do you actually have of the banksy market aside from reading prices on a forum. I am willing to put neck on the line as i buy stock, my necks on the line as much as my clients.. A recession is a fall in GDP in two successive quarters. Yes, most of the world has been out of recession for at least the last couple of years. The UK surpassed its pre-recession peak mid last year. I don't doubt you know what bank sys are selling for right now, I haven't bought a banksy since the cyw release and haven't sold any. I remember a lot of people buying at peak got burnt in '08 then when their jobs were uncertain they couldn't sell for anything like they bought for, and banksy didn't rise throughout the recession... pretty much the only street artist that did go up around then was os gemeos because they were so undervalued financially pre-recession then got a few good gallery showings. Just think it's risky for a gallery to give out forecasts for future price trends.
Kimble, you think the world has been out of recession a couple years?? Banksy dropped like everything 2008 with the biggest recession in 80 years kicked in.....my point is his prices have risen throughout the recession, yes the last couple years moreso but let me ask you this, how much knowledge do you actually have of the banksy market aside from reading prices on a forum. I am willing to put neck on the line as i buy stock, my necks on the line as much as my clients.. A recession is a fall in GDP in two successive quarters. Yes, most of the world has been out of recession for at least the last couple of years. The UK surpassed its pre-recession peak mid last year. I don't doubt you know what bank sys are selling for right now, I haven't bought a banksy since the cyw release and haven't sold any. I remember a lot of people buying at peak got burnt in '08 then when their jobs were uncertain they couldn't sell for anything like they bought for, and banksy didn't rise throughout the recession... pretty much the only street artist that did go up around then was os gemeos because they were so undervalued financially pre-recession then got a few good gallery showings. Just think it's risky for a gallery to give out forecasts for future price trends. The ones who bought at the peak in 08 must be raging now. I said what i believe, thats my opinion as a professional, i dont just say i think every artist i sell is a good investment, if i was saying bambi is a great investment etc id understand but i am giving genuine honest advice, is that not what an honest gallerist is supposed to do ? Im giving advice based on previous and current trends, thats what i do...stone me |
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by rebelate on Jan 11, 2015 2:11:11 GMT 1, No, having just checked it looks like they increased it to a maximum of £250 so if you're selling a Banksy it's still a good place to list. You're incorrect. They raised it. It's at 10% and they also take the 10% off the shipping too. So price of item + listen shipping x 10% = fee. Then calculate your paypal fee of 3% off the total amount received (which also includes shipping). You're at 13%.
My friend sells quiet a bit on eBay. He was complaint that they raised it to $750 USD. It used to be a $250 USD Maximum before.
No, having just checked it looks like they increased it to a maximum of £250 so if you're selling a Banksy it's still a good place to list. You're incorrect. They raised it. It's at 10% and they also take the 10% off the shipping too. So price of item + listen shipping x 10% = fee. Then calculate your paypal fee of 3% off the total amount received (which also includes shipping). You're at 13%. My friend sells quiet a bit on eBay. He was complaint that they raised it to $750 USD. It used to be a $250 USD Maximum before. |
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 2:23:43 GMT 1, So evidence that trolleys are 3k anyone ?
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by cmodart on Jan 11, 2015 3:13:33 GMT 1, Wait - a gallery trying to speak to the strength of the art market without referencing the apocalypse as a probable economic scenario to consider??? Get the rope and string the bastard up!!
Lighten up. Seek counsel from experts (whom may be biased) and also those without a financial interest. There are plenty of nay-Sayers to balance the equation. End of story.
Wait - a gallery trying to speak to the strength of the art market without referencing the apocalypse as a probable economic scenario to consider??? Get the rope and string the bastard up!!
Lighten up. Seek counsel from experts (whom may be biased) and also those without a financial interest. There are plenty of nay-Sayers to balance the equation. End of story.
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by samfrost on Jan 11, 2015 3:35:53 GMT 1, I encourage everyone to take a spin in the auction results time machine and take a peek at late 07-08 prices, followed by 09-10. You will see some interesting results and can draw your own conclusions.
A good lesson on the fickleness of the art market, as well as a parabolic recovery in 13-14. You of course have the likes of Micallef, Walker and other once "hot" names still struggling to recover.
Personally, I am cautiously optimistic in 2015 on Banksy prices. I dumped much of my Banksy collection in early 2014 and now wish I kept a bit more. My tastes have shifted, but I do think a short supply of work, with an increasingly higher profile in the USA (+ strong dollar) gives a strong tailwind to Banksy prices. PM me if anyone wants to discuss.
I encourage everyone to take a spin in the auction results time machine and take a peek at late 07-08 prices, followed by 09-10. You will see some interesting results and can draw your own conclusions.
A good lesson on the fickleness of the art market, as well as a parabolic recovery in 13-14. You of course have the likes of Micallef, Walker and other once "hot" names still struggling to recover.
Personally, I am cautiously optimistic in 2015 on Banksy prices. I dumped much of my Banksy collection in early 2014 and now wish I kept a bit more. My tastes have shifted, but I do think a short supply of work, with an increasingly higher profile in the USA (+ strong dollar) gives a strong tailwind to Banksy prices. PM me if anyone wants to discuss.
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by me on Jan 11, 2015 4:23:51 GMT 1, If I wasn't saving up for a Laugh Now I would have definitely bought this...
best of luck with the sale. I don't think it will hang around that long.
If I wasn't saving up for a Laugh Now I would have definitely bought this...
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 8:24:38 GMT 1, As I said above somewhere, if people buying (or not?) an unsigned Banksy Trollies for £3K when maybe 18 months ago you might have secured one for perhaps just north of £1K have the money to burn then go for it.
It doesn't matter.
Castle Gallery are a gallery, they sell and buy art and always come across on here from what I've seen as pretty rationale and reasonable. Price support for their customers will be weaker on the way down (if there is way down) than they were on the way up and that's if it's there at all from them or other market participants and I think that's the fulcrum of the dialogue.
The CYW market was specifically targeted and hyped to buggery a few years ago, I know that as I know people who were involved in that who have no interest in art and deeper pockets than me and it's been sustained by people who do not know. Because of the Banksy price movements of late I personally would struggle to say that they will continue to rise but then I've been banging that drum for years now and been very wrong! There's a guy on here I know with a collection of Banksy prints worth £1mio plus, I think that's bonkers.......
As I said above somewhere, if people buying (or not?) an unsigned Banksy Trollies for £3K when maybe 18 months ago you might have secured one for perhaps just north of £1K have the money to burn then go for it.
It doesn't matter.
Castle Gallery are a gallery, they sell and buy art and always come across on here from what I've seen as pretty rationale and reasonable. Price support for their customers will be weaker on the way down (if there is way down) than they were on the way up and that's if it's there at all from them or other market participants and I think that's the fulcrum of the dialogue.
The CYW market was specifically targeted and hyped to buggery a few years ago, I know that as I know people who were involved in that who have no interest in art and deeper pockets than me and it's been sustained by people who do not know. Because of the Banksy price movements of late I personally would struggle to say that they will continue to rise but then I've been banging that drum for years now and been very wrong! There's a guy on here I know with a collection of Banksy prints worth £1mio plus, I think that's bonkers.......
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 8:52:41 GMT 1, Cheers Oski! 
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 8:53:48 GMT 1, And on-topic. Stunning print people, really is! Great price for a mint condition print. To bad it is face-to-face only.....
And on-topic. Stunning print people, really is! Great price for a mint condition print. To bad it is face-to-face only.....
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 9:38:21 GMT 1, As I said above somewhere, if people buying (or not?) an unsigned Banksy Trollies for £3K when maybe 18 months ago you might have secured one for perhaps just north of £1K have the money to burn then go for it. It doesn't matter. Castle Gallery are a gallery, they sell and buy art and always come across on here from what I've seen as pretty rationale and reasonable. Price support for their customers will be weaker on the way down (if there is way down) than they were on the way up and that's if it's there at all from them or other market participants and I think that's the fulcrum of the dialogue. The CYW market was specifically targeted and hyped to buggery a few years ago, I know that as I know people who were involved in that who have no interest in art and deeper pockets than me and it's been sustained by people who do not know. Because of the Banksy price movements of late I personally would struggle to say that they will continue to rise but then I've been banging that drum for years now and been very wrong! There's a guy on here I know with a collection of Banksy prints worth £1mio plus, I think that's bonkers.......
As I said above somewhere, if people buying (or not?) an unsigned Banksy Trollies for £3K when maybe 18 months ago you might have secured one for perhaps just north of £1K have the money to burn then go for it. It doesn't matter. Castle Gallery are a gallery, they sell and buy art and always come across on here from what I've seen as pretty rationale and reasonable. Price support for their customers will be weaker on the way down (if there is way down) than they were on the way up and that's if it's there at all from them or other market participants and I think that's the fulcrum of the dialogue. The CYW market was specifically targeted and hyped to buggery a few years ago, I know that as I know people who were involved in that who have no interest in art and deeper pockets than me and it's been sustained by people who do not know. Because of the Banksy price movements of late I personally would struggle to say that they will continue to rise but then I've been banging that drum for years now and been very wrong! There's a guy on here I know with a collection of Banksy prints worth £1mio plus, I think that's bonkers....... I'm going to step out of this debate after this and future price conversations, if anyone wants to talk you know where i am, one thing i will say is that im putting myself in the same position as my clients by buying stock rather than solely selling others works which is why im happy to stick my neck on the line, i dont think prices will keep rising the way they have indefinately, thats not possible, investing in anything is a risk, spend what you can afford to loose and pref buy something you enjoy so if it goes tits up youve got something you like. |
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by elevenspots on Jan 11, 2015 18:10:16 GMT 1, Want. I've been blown out by the chap ROB - selling his the other day.
I can come down to LDN to collect.
Please confirm this is in your possession - looking at old threads it looks like you where trying to buy a trolley last month?
Let me know - happy to hook up.
Thank-you.
Want. I've been blown out by the chap ROB - selling his the other day.
I can come down to LDN to collect.
Please confirm this is in your possession - looking at old threads it looks like you where trying to buy a trolley last month?
Let me know - happy to hook up.
Thank-you.
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters, by queserasera on Jan 11, 2015 20:51:54 GMT 1, Best guy to deal with ;-)
Best guy to deal with ;-)
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The NYC galleries where exactly the same, High end seasoned collectors have been wary of banksy because hes not going through the system they know, not represented by galleries, not being influenced and directed but its getting difficult for anyone to say hes a fad, time will tell, its interesting for sure
We're talking about banksy and you have a vested interest, I dnt want you to go - just be aware that you're obviously interested in a booming market for his work and there are gullibles here who won't see that 
