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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by rustyb on Oct 30, 2007 12:46:38 GMT 1, Rinse the bastard out with as many 250 quid offers as you can.
I did, hastily declined
Rinse the bastard out with as many 250 quid offers as you can. I did, hastily declined
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by GD303uk on Oct 30, 2007 13:15:47 GMT 1, Trebors Avi, is one of
Zip and Pip "Jennie Lee and Elvira Snow, also known as "The Snow Twins", suffered from microcephaly, characterised by abnormally small craniums which gave rise at the time to the term "pinhead". Like most microcephaly sufferers Zip and Pip were mentally retarded, but although based at Coney Island, they also travelled with the World Circus Sideshow for many years". quote taken from IMDB. the film the avi is from is a classic movie if a little disturbing , by Tod Browning the story is a good one with the beautifull woman expossed as evil for pretending to love a man for his money, the other charactors in the movie dont stand by and let the woman get away with her deceit.
Trebors Avi, is one of Zip and Pip "Jennie Lee and Elvira Snow, also known as "The Snow Twins", suffered from microcephaly, characterised by abnormally small craniums which gave rise at the time to the term "pinhead". Like most microcephaly sufferers Zip and Pip were mentally retarded, but although based at Coney Island, they also travelled with the World Circus Sideshow for many years". quote taken from IMDB. the film the avi is from is a classic movie if a little disturbing , by Tod Browning the story is a good one with the beautifull woman expossed as evil for pretending to love a man for his money, the other charactors in the movie dont stand by and let the woman get away with her deceit.
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by baracass on Oct 30, 2007 14:48:50 GMT 1, Holy shit! £3000?
Holy shit! £3000?
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by cru5tee on Oct 30, 2007 14:50:08 GMT 1,
WOW..that was a quick sale!
How can someone sell something they don't even have? Can't POW track this flipper down?
WOW..that was a quick sale! How can someone sell something they don't even have? Can't POW track this flipper down?
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by baracass on Oct 30, 2007 15:06:50 GMT 1, Why would they want to?
Why would they want to?
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by keepingitreal on Oct 30, 2007 15:29:14 GMT 1, Tell you what chaps, these prints aren't selling as quick as expected. It's good to see people waiting and not panic buying.
This WILL bring the price down, and lets not forget there are 1400 prints with the same image on and well over half of that are Signed!!!
by the way, the print that sold for £3000 was very suspect, both are forum members. Maybe a bit of Hype going on here, don't believe everything you see!!
Tell you what chaps, these prints aren't selling as quick as expected. It's good to see people waiting and not panic buying.
This WILL bring the price down, and lets not forget there are 1400 prints with the same image on and well over half of that are Signed!!!
by the way, the print that sold for £3000 was very suspect, both are forum members. Maybe a bit of Hype going on here, don't believe everything you see!!
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by melmoth on Oct 30, 2007 15:49:34 GMT 1, Tell you what chaps, these prints aren't selling as quick as expected. It's good to see people waiting and not panic buying. This WILL bring the price down, and lets not forget there are 1400 prints with the same image on and well over half of that are Signed!!! by the way, the print that sold for £3000 was very suspect, both are forum members. Maybe a bit of Hype going on here, don't believe everything you see!!
That may be true, but I don't see any listings on ebay for the color signed at the moment. The last three up all sold for at least 4 times the original price. There haven't been any listings for the B&W signed yet. There are some for the B&W unsigned, but perhaps some people are waiting to see whether more of those are dropped.
Or maybe, the B&W unsigned really is the runt of the litter.
Tell you what chaps, these prints aren't selling as quick as expected. It's good to see people waiting and not panic buying. This WILL bring the price down, and lets not forget there are 1400 prints with the same image on and well over half of that are Signed!!! by the way, the print that sold for £3000 was very suspect, both are forum members. Maybe a bit of Hype going on here, don't believe everything you see!! That may be true, but I don't see any listings on ebay for the color signed at the moment. The last three up all sold for at least 4 times the original price. There haven't been any listings for the B&W signed yet. There are some for the B&W unsigned, but perhaps some people are waiting to see whether more of those are dropped. Or maybe, the B&W unsigned really is the runt of the litter.
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by bruns4 on Oct 30, 2007 15:54:46 GMT 1, cost + 1£ offers submitted to all...
cost + 1£ offers submitted to all...
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by craigf on Oct 30, 2007 18:18:37 GMT 1, Hmm, so he is flipping for a £2,575 profit, but if you want to pay with Paypal it will cost you a further 3.2%. What a t*sser
Reading the other posts I was v P1ssed off yesterday on missing out as I really wanted to get a signed edition, but 24 hours later I can live without one. There are more important things in life and for the sort of money the signed prints are being flipped for you can get some very nice originals from other artists
Hmm, so he is flipping for a £2,575 profit, but if you want to pay with Paypal it will cost you a further 3.2%. What a t*sser
Reading the other posts I was v P1ssed off yesterday on missing out as I really wanted to get a signed edition, but 24 hours later I can live without one. There are more important things in life and for the sort of money the signed prints are being flipped for you can get some very nice originals from other artists
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by keepingitreal on Oct 30, 2007 20:03:34 GMT 1, Craigf,
This happened with the Micallef LA prints a month ago. Initially a few sets sold for good money and then the bay got flooded with them. It will happen here too with the Trolley's as it is such a huge edition. You can tell what these people are about because they haven't even seen the prints yet. C*CKS !!!
Craigf,
This happened with the Micallef LA prints a month ago. Initially a few sets sold for good money and then the bay got flooded with them. It will happen here too with the Trolley's as it is such a huge edition. You can tell what these people are about because they haven't even seen the prints yet. C*CKS !!!
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by f5ers on Oct 30, 2007 20:17:00 GMT 1, Ha.. i've reported the above listing for asking for extra if using paypal.. something which ebay will remove your listing.. will be removed quicker if more report them for adding a % to final price
Ha.. i've reported the above listing for asking for extra if using paypal.. something which ebay will remove your listing.. will be removed quicker if more report them for adding a % to final price
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by corblimeylimey on Oct 30, 2007 21:24:48 GMT 1, Removed
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by dave313perry on Oct 30, 2007 21:34:51 GMT 1, Eyes out for Ebay bargains people - (not of the Banksy kind) - theres plenty around!!!
Eyes out for Ebay bargains people - (not of the Banksy kind) - theres plenty around!!!
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by absyrd on Oct 30, 2007 21:36:36 GMT 1, I see WAY more people who missed out clamoring for these than Morons, larger edition and everything.
Starting to think this'll be fetching around that 3k mark for a while, with Morons around 2k. Scary stuff.
I see WAY more people who missed out clamoring for these than Morons, larger edition and everything.
Starting to think this'll be fetching around that 3k mark for a while, with Morons around 2k. Scary stuff.
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by lesbianwednesdays on Oct 30, 2007 22:53:40 GMT 1, I see WAY more people who missed out clamoring for these than Morons, larger edition and everything. Starting to think this'll be fetching around that 3k mark for a while, with Morons around 2k. Scary stuff.
and what exactly are you basing that on?
I see WAY more people who missed out clamoring for these than Morons, larger edition and everything. Starting to think this'll be fetching around that 3k mark for a while, with Morons around 2k. Scary stuff. and what exactly are you basing that on?
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by absyrd on Oct 30, 2007 22:57:32 GMT 1, I see WAY more people who missed out clamoring for these than Morons, larger edition and everything. Starting to think this'll be fetching around that 3k mark for a while, with Morons around 2k. Scary stuff. and what exactly are you basing that on?
Just like I said in the post you replied to... people clamoring for them on here, giant forum, etc.
I see WAY more people who missed out clamoring for these than Morons, larger edition and everything. Starting to think this'll be fetching around that 3k mark for a while, with Morons around 2k. Scary stuff. and what exactly are you basing that on? Just like I said in the post you replied to... people clamoring for them on here, giant forum, etc.
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by shiltygg on Nov 1, 2007 2:16:36 GMT 1, id say coloured trollies goin for more than a morons sepia due to how popular the print is
Agreed, you must take into account that even though anyone would take a morons, sentiment for it fell far shorter than many of his other images.
Before morons was applause, and although many (including myself) would consider it more appealing to the masses of collectors than a morons, the appreciation for trolleys is far greater than either morons or applause.
Market price however, is always a bit squirrelly to predict. The supply side of the equation is simple as it is written on every print. It's far more difficult to extrapolate an accurate prediction of demand from your own feelings for an image and also accurately gage the collective appreciation of other collectors.
As far as I can tell, trolleys is easily an instant classic. Demand for it will rocket; and even though my money sense wanted me to get a signed b/w, the collector in me is happy that I was able to grab a 4 color instead.
id say coloured trollies goin for more than a morons sepia due to how popular the print is Agreed, you must take into account that even though anyone would take a morons, sentiment for it fell far shorter than many of his other images. Before morons was applause, and although many (including myself) would consider it more appealing to the masses of collectors than a morons, the appreciation for trolleys is far greater than either morons or applause. Market price however, is always a bit squirrelly to predict. The supply side of the equation is simple as it is written on every print. It's far more difficult to extrapolate an accurate prediction of demand from your own feelings for an image and also accurately gage the collective appreciation of other collectors. As far as I can tell, trolleys is easily an instant classic. Demand for it will rocket; and even though my money sense wanted me to get a signed b/w, the collector in me is happy that I was able to grab a 4 color instead.
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by darjeeling on Nov 1, 2007 2:30:10 GMT 1, Ok, everyone's pretty aware of how huge this Trolleys edition is. But still, I think Trolleys colourway is at least as valuable as a Sepia. A few think Morons is the greatest print ever. But most don't really. I like the message but really don't like the print. Especially in poop brown. I really don't think people are going to want to pay more for a Sepia all of a sudden just because the Trolleys release is larger. The prices are low on it because people haven't been that into that image. And that's not going to change because of this. At least I don't think so. But I might be wrong. (No offense to Sepia owners)
Trolleys will be a special Banksy because the edition is so huge (And thank god or I wouldn't have scored one) but I think there's a pretty strong consensus that it's one of his best images in a long time. For price? I don't know. £2k-3k??? For the unsigned, I'd wait until they're £750 or less. This all could maybe drop more if the market really gets flooded with Trolleys? The market is already flooded with Micallefs and Neates too.
Ok, everyone's pretty aware of how huge this Trolleys edition is. But still, I think Trolleys colourway is at least as valuable as a Sepia. A few think Morons is the greatest print ever. But most don't really. I like the message but really don't like the print. Especially in poop brown. I really don't think people are going to want to pay more for a Sepia all of a sudden just because the Trolleys release is larger. The prices are low on it because people haven't been that into that image. And that's not going to change because of this. At least I don't think so. But I might be wrong. (No offense to Sepia owners)
Trolleys will be a special Banksy because the edition is so huge (And thank god or I wouldn't have scored one) but I think there's a pretty strong consensus that it's one of his best images in a long time. For price? I don't know. £2k-3k??? For the unsigned, I'd wait until they're £750 or less. This all could maybe drop more if the market really gets flooded with Trolleys? The market is already flooded with Micallefs and Neates too.
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by arcam on Nov 1, 2007 2:39:37 GMT 1, Whether it's a more popular print or not, if you play the waiting game you'll get one for much less than a morons. Given time ebay is going to be flooded with the colour edition.
Whether it's a more popular print or not, if you play the waiting game you'll get one for much less than a morons. Given time ebay is going to be flooded with the colour edition.
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by darjeeling on Nov 1, 2007 2:52:04 GMT 1, I still think if Trolleys goes for less than what Sepia is now, then Sepia will go down further too.
I still think if Trolleys goes for less than what Sepia is now, then Sepia will go down further too.
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by arcam on Nov 1, 2007 2:57:55 GMT 1, Sepia is a strong print, there are/will be less of them around and comes from a smaller edition than Trolleys. There's no reason why someone should pay the same money for both. If people hold on prices will drop.
Sepia is a strong print, there are/will be less of them around and comes from a smaller edition than Trolleys. There's no reason why someone should pay the same money for both. If people hold on prices will drop.
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by darjeeling on Nov 1, 2007 3:14:15 GMT 1, It's not just edition size. It's how many people want that image on their wall.
It's not just edition size. It's how many people want that image on their wall.
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by sindekat on Nov 1, 2007 3:15:49 GMT 1, i truthfully think this image in color is strong enough to hold and i doubt ebay will be flooded with cheap ones. people know what this is really worth and even the morons sepia wont be as popular
i truthfully think this image in color is strong enough to hold and i doubt ebay will be flooded with cheap ones. people know what this is really worth and even the morons sepia wont be as popular
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by foreman on Nov 1, 2007 3:24:55 GMT 1, your crazy sindekat if you think the prices wount drop in the next month... its a strong image but the fact is at least 40% of the prints bought were bought by flippers with the intent to make money and the only way they will sell when the bay is flooded is to undercut the lowest price already up
your crazy sindekat if you think the prices wount drop in the next month... its a strong image but the fact is at least 40% of the prints bought were bought by flippers with the intent to make money and the only way they will sell when the bay is flooded is to undercut the lowest price already up
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by headphonesex on Nov 1, 2007 3:36:30 GMT 1, your crazy sindekat if you think the prices wount drop in the next month... its a strong image but the fact is at least 40% of the prints bought were bought by flippers with the intent to make money and the only way they will sell when the bay is flooded is to undercut the lowest price already up
I don't think it's a fact that 40% are bought by flippers.
I'm sure other people know better than me, but i'd say usually 10-15% are sold in the first 6 months.
I think this is more of a keeper than some other recent ones though.
your crazy sindekat if you think the prices wount drop in the next month... its a strong image but the fact is at least 40% of the prints bought were bought by flippers with the intent to make money and the only way they will sell when the bay is flooded is to undercut the lowest price already up I don't think it's a fact that 40% are bought by flippers. I'm sure other people know better than me, but i'd say usually 10-15% are sold in the first 6 months. I think this is more of a keeper than some other recent ones though.
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Banksy • Trolley Hunters Coloured , by foreman on Nov 1, 2007 5:06:03 GMT 1, your right maybe not 40 % ... but 62 out of the 300 signed sepia morons have been recorded on expressobean... source ( www.Expressobeans/public/detail.php/54590 ) ...thats 20% i say more flippers were probably up on this one... so i think will see 20-30 % on the bay in the next 2-3 months... thats 150 - 225 colored trolleys (theres already almost 10 sitting there not selling)... prices will fall and will be able to scooop one up for close to cost im hopin... espically from the usa flippers :-)
your right maybe not 40 % ... but 62 out of the 300 signed sepia morons have been recorded on expressobean... source ( www.Expressobeans/public/detail.php/54590 ) ...thats 20% i say more flippers were probably up on this one... so i think will see 20-30 % on the bay in the next 2-3 months... thats 150 - 225 colored trolleys (theres already almost 10 sitting there not selling)... prices will fall and will be able to scooop one up for close to cost im hopin... espically from the usa flippers :-)
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