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Banksy being restored in Scotland, by tab1 on Apr 16, 2020 15:34:21 GMT 1, moran this is just a thread about the art. If you don't mind would you take the part about 96 off your comment, please. You don't have to but really i prefer if you did thanks My comment about 96 was very relevant to what Banksy wrote on the wall in Scotland and factual. As far as I am concerned, considering what happened. What Banksy wrote on the wall is hate speech and I know people like you would say that it's Banksy so he can do a he pleases but i am sure that if someone else wrote this on that wall, they would be quickly attacked on here for writing hate speech, condoning mass shootings etc etc. Yes we all know it's just Banksy trying to be "edgy" but it shows how clueless he is to write this on a wall in Scotland particularly referencing a 9mm. I just made a point why this should not be restored but I think you are concerned about the value of Banksy stock going down.
Take it reference to dunblane? Valid points , censorship should not have been made To edit ,sad and unfortunate event ,but can not dismiss or ignore the fact The event happened And discussions around this topic Take away Banksy and the image could be read differently , Banksys fan base is young and to portray guns in a cool manner sets the wrong example
Plus Not much time spent on thought at the time when image executed as Banksy was 20-25 and mindset different to that of a Middle AgeD person And He did not have his pr advisors at the time to discuss image / meaning:consequences
moran this is just a thread about the art. If you don't mind would you take the part about 96 off your comment, please. You don't have to but really i prefer if you did thanks My comment about 96 was very relevant to what Banksy wrote on the wall in Scotland and factual. As far as I am concerned, considering what happened. What Banksy wrote on the wall is hate speech and I know people like you would say that it's Banksy so he can do a he pleases but i am sure that if someone else wrote this on that wall, they would be quickly attacked on here for writing hate speech, condoning mass shootings etc etc. Yes we all know it's just Banksy trying to be "edgy" but it shows how clueless he is to write this on a wall in Scotland particularly referencing a 9mm. I just made a point why this should not be restored but I think you are concerned about the value of Banksy stock going down. Take it reference to dunblane? Valid points , censorship should not have been made To edit ,sad and unfortunate event ,but can not dismiss or ignore the fact The event happened And discussions around this topic Take away Banksy and the image could be read differently , Banksys fan base is young and to portray guns in a cool manner sets the wrong example Plus Not much time spent on thought at the time when image executed as Banksy was 20-25 and mindset different to that of a Middle AgeD person And He did not have his pr advisors at the time to discuss image / meaning:consequences
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Banksy being restored in Scotland, by irl1 on Apr 16, 2020 15:59:28 GMT 1, moran this is just a thread about the art. If you don't mind would you take the part about 96 off your comment, please. You don't have to but really i prefer if you did thanks My comment about 96 was very relevant to what Banksy wrote on the wall in Scotland and factual. As far as I am concerned, considering what happened. What Banksy wrote on the wall is hate speech and I know people like you would say that it's Banksy so he can do a he pleases but i am sure that if someone else wrote this on that wall, they would be quickly attacked on here for writing hate speech, condoning mass shootings etc etc. Yes we all know it's just Banksy trying to be "edgy" but it shows how clueless he is to write this on a wall in Scotland particularly referencing a 9mm. I just made a point why this should not be restored but I think you are concerned about the value of Banksy stock going down. Don't give a toss about the value of Banksy stock going down.
moran this is just a thread about the art. If you don't mind would you take the part about 96 off your comment, please. You don't have to but really i prefer if you did thanks My comment about 96 was very relevant to what Banksy wrote on the wall in Scotland and factual. As far as I am concerned, considering what happened. What Banksy wrote on the wall is hate speech and I know people like you would say that it's Banksy so he can do a he pleases but i am sure that if someone else wrote this on that wall, they would be quickly attacked on here for writing hate speech, condoning mass shootings etc etc. Yes we all know it's just Banksy trying to be "edgy" but it shows how clueless he is to write this on a wall in Scotland particularly referencing a 9mm. I just made a point why this should not be restored but I think you are concerned about the value of Banksy stock going down. Don't give a toss about the value of Banksy stock going down.
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Banksy being restored in Scotland, by denzil on Apr 17, 2020 10:26:52 GMT 1, Hanns Johst
Play - Schlageter
When the Nazis achieved power in 1933, Johst wrote the play Schlageter, an expression of Nazi ideology which was performed on Hitler's 44th birthday, 20 April 1933, to celebrate his victory. It was a heroic biography of the proto-Nazi martyr Albert Leo Schlageter. The famous line "When I hear the word culture, I reach for my gun", often associated with Nazi leaders, derives from this play. The actual line in the play is, however, slightly different: "Wenn ich Kultur höre ... entsichere ich meine Browning!" "When I hear 'Culture'... I release the safety catch on my Browning!" (Act 1, Scene 1). It is spoken by another character in conversation with the young Schlageter. In the scene Schlageter and his wartime comrade Friedrich Thiemann are studying for a college examination, but then start debating whether it is worthwhile doing so when the nation is not free. Thiemann argues that he would prefer to fight rather than study.
SCHLAGETER: Good old Fritz! (Laughing.) No paradise will entice you out of your barbed wire entanglement!
THIEMANN: That's for damned sure! Barbed wire is barbed wire! I know what I'm up against.... No rose without a thorn!... And the last thing I'll stand for is ideas to get the better of me! I know that rubbish from '18 ..., fraternity, equality, ..., freedom ..., beauty and dignity! You gotta use the right bait to hook 'em. And then, you're right in the middle of a parley and they say: Hands up! You're disarmed..., you republican voting swine!—No, let 'em keep their good distance with their whole ideological kettle of fish ... I shoot with live ammunition! When I hear the word culture ..., I release the safety on my Browning!"
SCHLAGETER: What a thing to say!
THIEMANN: It hits the mark! You can be sure of that.
SCHLAGETER: You've got a hair trigger.
— Hanns Johst's Nazi Drama Schlageter. Translated with an introduction by Ford B. Parkes-Perret. Akademischer Verlag Hans-Dieter Heinz, Stuttgart, 1984.
The line is frequently misattributed, sometimes to Hermann Göring and sometimes to Heinrich Himmler. In December 2007, historian David Starkey misattributed it to Joseph Goebbels in comments criticizing Queen Elizabeth II for being "poorly educated and philistine".[1] It has also been adapted by, for example Stephen Hawking as "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my pistol" and by filmmaker Jean-Luc Godard in his 1963 film Le Mépris, when a producer says to Fritz Lang: "Whenever I hear the word culture, I bring out my checkbook." Lang evokes the original line when he answers "Some years ago—some horrible years ago—the Nazis used to take out a pistol instead of a checkbook." Songwriter Clint Conley of Mission of Burma titled a song he wrote in 1981 "That's When I Reach for My Revolve
Hanns Johst Play - Schlageter When the Nazis achieved power in 1933, Johst wrote the play Schlageter, an expression of Nazi ideology which was performed on Hitler's 44th birthday, 20 April 1933, to celebrate his victory. It was a heroic biography of the proto-Nazi martyr Albert Leo Schlageter. The famous line "When I hear the word culture, I reach for my gun", often associated with Nazi leaders, derives from this play. The actual line in the play is, however, slightly different: "Wenn ich Kultur höre ... entsichere ich meine Browning!" "When I hear 'Culture'... I release the safety catch on my Browning!" (Act 1, Scene 1). It is spoken by another character in conversation with the young Schlageter. In the scene Schlageter and his wartime comrade Friedrich Thiemann are studying for a college examination, but then start debating whether it is worthwhile doing so when the nation is not free. Thiemann argues that he would prefer to fight rather than study. SCHLAGETER: Good old Fritz! (Laughing.) No paradise will entice you out of your barbed wire entanglement! THIEMANN: That's for damned sure! Barbed wire is barbed wire! I know what I'm up against.... No rose without a thorn!... And the last thing I'll stand for is ideas to get the better of me! I know that rubbish from '18 ..., fraternity, equality, ..., freedom ..., beauty and dignity! You gotta use the right bait to hook 'em. And then, you're right in the middle of a parley and they say: Hands up! You're disarmed..., you republican voting swine!—No, let 'em keep their good distance with their whole ideological kettle of fish ... I shoot with live ammunition! When I hear the word culture ..., I release the safety on my Browning!" SCHLAGETER: What a thing to say! THIEMANN: It hits the mark! You can be sure of that. SCHLAGETER: You've got a hair trigger. — Hanns Johst's Nazi Drama Schlageter. Translated with an introduction by Ford B. Parkes-Perret. Akademischer Verlag Hans-Dieter Heinz, Stuttgart, 1984. The line is frequently misattributed, sometimes to Hermann Göring and sometimes to Heinrich Himmler. In December 2007, historian David Starkey misattributed it to Joseph Goebbels in comments criticizing Queen Elizabeth II for being "poorly educated and philistine".[1] It has also been adapted by, for example Stephen Hawking as "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my pistol" and by filmmaker Jean-Luc Godard in his 1963 film Le Mépris, when a producer says to Fritz Lang: "Whenever I hear the word culture, I bring out my checkbook." Lang evokes the original line when he answers "Some years ago—some horrible years ago—the Nazis used to take out a pistol instead of a checkbook." Songwriter Clint Conley of Mission of Burma titled a song he wrote in 1981 "That's When I Reach for My Revolve
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Banksy being restored in Scotland, by moron on Apr 20, 2020 11:28:44 GMT 1, Hanns Johst Play - Schlageter When the Nazis achieved power in 1933, Johst wrote the play Schlageter, an expression of Nazi ideology which was performed on Hitler's 44th birthday, 20 April 1933, to celebrate his victory. It was a heroic biography of the proto-Nazi martyr Albert Leo Schlageter. The famous line "When I hear the word culture, I reach for my gun", often associated with Nazi leaders, derives from this play. The actual line in the play is, however, slightly different: "Wenn ich Kultur höre ... entsichere ich meine Browning!" "When I hear 'Culture'... I release the safety catch on my Browning!" (Act 1, Scene 1). It is spoken by another character in conversation with the young Schlageter. In the scene Schlageter and his wartime comrade Friedrich Thiemann are studying for a college examination, but then start debating whether it is worthwhile doing so when the nation is not free. Thiemann argues that he would prefer to fight rather than study. SCHLAGETER: Good old Fritz! (Laughing.) No paradise will entice you out of your barbed wire entanglement! THIEMANN: That's for damned sure! Barbed wire is barbed wire! I know what I'm up against.... No rose without a thorn!... And the last thing I'll stand for is ideas to get the better of me! I know that rubbish from '18 ..., fraternity, equality, ..., freedom ..., beauty and dignity! You gotta use the right bait to hook 'em. And then, you're right in the middle of a parley and they say: Hands up! You're disarmed..., you republican voting swine!—No, let 'em keep their good distance with their whole ideological kettle of fish ... I shoot with live ammunition! When I hear the word culture ..., I release the safety on my Browning!" SCHLAGETER: What a thing to say! THIEMANN: It hits the mark! You can be sure of that. SCHLAGETER: You've got a hair trigger. — Hanns Johst's Nazi Drama Schlageter. Translated with an introduction by Ford B. Parkes-Perret. Akademischer Verlag Hans-Dieter Heinz, Stuttgart, 1984. The line is frequently misattributed, sometimes to Hermann Göring and sometimes to Heinrich Himmler. In December 2007, historian David Starkey misattributed it to Joseph Goebbels in comments criticizing Queen Elizabeth II for being "poorly educated and philistine".[1] It has also been adapted by, for example Stephen Hawking as "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my pistol" and by filmmaker Jean-Luc Godard in his 1963 film Le Mépris, when a producer says to Fritz Lang: "Whenever I hear the word culture, I bring out my checkbook." Lang evokes the original line when he answers "Some years ago—some horrible years ago—the Nazis used to take out a pistol instead of a checkbook." Songwriter Clint Conley of Mission of Burma titled a song he wrote in 1981 "That's When I Reach for My Revolve The whole piece (both images and the text between) provides further context: It is still hate speech on the part of Banksy.
Just a coincidence that he descided to write it on a wall in Scotland where children were killed by someone using a 9mm.
This certainly shows your true colours because if someone else had done this on a wall you would be calling them all sorts of things.
Hanns Johst Play - Schlageter When the Nazis achieved power in 1933, Johst wrote the play Schlageter, an expression of Nazi ideology which was performed on Hitler's 44th birthday, 20 April 1933, to celebrate his victory. It was a heroic biography of the proto-Nazi martyr Albert Leo Schlageter. The famous line "When I hear the word culture, I reach for my gun", often associated with Nazi leaders, derives from this play. The actual line in the play is, however, slightly different: "Wenn ich Kultur höre ... entsichere ich meine Browning!" "When I hear 'Culture'... I release the safety catch on my Browning!" (Act 1, Scene 1). It is spoken by another character in conversation with the young Schlageter. In the scene Schlageter and his wartime comrade Friedrich Thiemann are studying for a college examination, but then start debating whether it is worthwhile doing so when the nation is not free. Thiemann argues that he would prefer to fight rather than study. SCHLAGETER: Good old Fritz! (Laughing.) No paradise will entice you out of your barbed wire entanglement! THIEMANN: That's for damned sure! Barbed wire is barbed wire! I know what I'm up against.... No rose without a thorn!... And the last thing I'll stand for is ideas to get the better of me! I know that rubbish from '18 ..., fraternity, equality, ..., freedom ..., beauty and dignity! You gotta use the right bait to hook 'em. And then, you're right in the middle of a parley and they say: Hands up! You're disarmed..., you republican voting swine!—No, let 'em keep their good distance with their whole ideological kettle of fish ... I shoot with live ammunition! When I hear the word culture ..., I release the safety on my Browning!" SCHLAGETER: What a thing to say! THIEMANN: It hits the mark! You can be sure of that. SCHLAGETER: You've got a hair trigger. — Hanns Johst's Nazi Drama Schlageter. Translated with an introduction by Ford B. Parkes-Perret. Akademischer Verlag Hans-Dieter Heinz, Stuttgart, 1984. The line is frequently misattributed, sometimes to Hermann Göring and sometimes to Heinrich Himmler. In December 2007, historian David Starkey misattributed it to Joseph Goebbels in comments criticizing Queen Elizabeth II for being "poorly educated and philistine".[1] It has also been adapted by, for example Stephen Hawking as "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my pistol" and by filmmaker Jean-Luc Godard in his 1963 film Le Mépris, when a producer says to Fritz Lang: "Whenever I hear the word culture, I bring out my checkbook." Lang evokes the original line when he answers "Some years ago—some horrible years ago—the Nazis used to take out a pistol instead of a checkbook." Songwriter Clint Conley of Mission of Burma titled a song he wrote in 1981 "That's When I Reach for My Revolve The whole piece (both images and the text between) provides further context: It is still hate speech on the part of Banksy. Just a coincidence that he descided to write it on a wall in Scotland where children were killed by someone using a 9mm. This certainly shows your true colours because if someone else had done this on a wall you would be calling them all sorts of things.
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moron
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Banksy being restored in Scotland, by moron on Apr 20, 2020 12:09:05 GMT 1, It is still hate speech on the part of Banksy. Just a coincidence that he descided to write it on a wall in Scotland where children were killed by someone using a 9mm. This certainly shows your true colours because if someone else had done this on a wall you would be calling them all sorts of things. Me: I love pastry. Moron: I see that you like pastry and that’s fine but did you know that pastry was responsible for a murder in 1977 when someone set a sausage roll on fire which caused a fatality so you’re basically condoning murder. idiot
It is still hate speech on the part of Banksy. Just a coincidence that he descided to write it on a wall in Scotland where children were killed by someone using a 9mm. This certainly shows your true colours because if someone else had done this on a wall you would be calling them all sorts of things. Me: I love pastry. Moron: I see that you like pastry and that’s fine but did you know that pastry was responsible for a murder in 1977 when someone set a sausage roll on fire which caused a fatality so you’re basically condoning murder. idiot
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