Graham H
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by Graham H on Aug 16, 2018 18:59:41 GMT 1,
Not sure the point you are making.. I haven’t got anything in the show, won’t be going to the show, have no allegiance to anyone running the show.. I was just saying it as I see it
If you think me commenting on here is intended to increase value of art I collect then I don’t think you comprehend the size of the Banksy market and the influence a single post on here has.. I.e. virtually none.
I enjoy investigating marketing as a concept, that’s where my comments were based.. and I stand by the thought that any publicity is good publicity.. that’s how he has got to the level he is at now.
Part / most of banksy 's success has been driven by the promotion of his art work and ' brand ' in many official and unofficial ways.. all news is good news so to speak.. Of course its better for him and his market to have even an unofficial show happening in a country where he is under exposed so to speak. Especially a country that has a whole bunch of money rich art collecting individuals. How long will it be until Russian e mails are going direct to POW / PC requesting commissions and art work.. stands to reason his money now isnt in £500 prints any more By posting the whole text dialogue ( made up or not ) to over 1 million followers is promotion in itself.. If he wanted to shut these shows down, im sure he would / could.. but he doesnt want to, so wont.. why would he? ( in my opinion obviously ). The only bad publicity it would bring would be to question why a self publicised gorilla artist would try to shut down something promoting his work .. not bad press on the corporations who put these shows on. I think all the talk about licensing and who owns what is irrelevant.. he never copyrighted any images intentionally ( i think im right in that).. eg all the tat on ebay that gets sold.. and owning an artwork means you can do exactly what you want with it.. hanging it home, in a museum, in Russia or anywhere else for that matter That does sounds like a justification/defense statement. Are you justifying yourself for lending work to help support this or defending people you know who lent work to support it. What do you honestly think Banksy/Pest Control think about this show? Positive comments or not so complimentary? Would you be fine being associated by Banksy/Pest Control with being supportive of the shows? Whether Banksy has anything beneficial come out of it doesn't defend it imo
Not sure the point you are making.. I haven’t got anything in the show, won’t be going to the show, have no allegiance to anyone running the show.. I was just saying it as I see it If you think me commenting on here is intended to increase value of art I collect then I don’t think you comprehend the size of the Banksy market and the influence a single post on here has.. I.e. virtually none. I enjoy investigating marketing as a concept, that’s where my comments were based.. and I stand by the thought that any publicity is good publicity.. that’s how he has got to the level he is at now. Part / most of banksy 's success has been driven by the promotion of his art work and ' brand ' in many official and unofficial ways.. all news is good news so to speak.. Of course its better for him and his market to have even an unofficial show happening in a country where he is under exposed so to speak. Especially a country that has a whole bunch of money rich art collecting individuals. How long will it be until Russian e mails are going direct to POW / PC requesting commissions and art work.. stands to reason his money now isnt in £500 prints any more By posting the whole text dialogue ( made up or not ) to over 1 million followers is promotion in itself.. If he wanted to shut these shows down, im sure he would / could.. but he doesnt want to, so wont.. why would he? ( in my opinion obviously ). The only bad publicity it would bring would be to question why a self publicised gorilla artist would try to shut down something promoting his work .. not bad press on the corporations who put these shows on. I think all the talk about licensing and who owns what is irrelevant.. he never copyrighted any images intentionally ( i think im right in that).. eg all the tat on ebay that gets sold.. and owning an artwork means you can do exactly what you want with it.. hanging it home, in a museum, in Russia or anywhere else for that matter That does sounds like a justification/defense statement. Are you justifying yourself for lending work to help support this or defending people you know who lent work to support it. What do you honestly think Banksy/Pest Control think about this show? Positive comments or not so complimentary? Would you be fine being associated by Banksy/Pest Control with being supportive of the shows? Whether Banksy has anything beneficial come out of it doesn't defend it imo |
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 19:19:36 GMT 1, Not sure the point you are making.. I haven’t got anything in the show, won’t be going to the show, have no allegiance to anyone running the show.. I was just saying it as I see it If you think me commenting on here is intended to increase value of art I collect then I don’t think you comprehend the size of the Banksy market and the influence a single post on here has.. I.e. virtually none. I enjoy investigating marketing as a concept, that’s where my comments were based.. and I stand by the thought that any publicity is good publicity.. that’s how he has got to the level he is at now. That does sounds like a justification/defense statement. Are you justifying yourself for lending work to help support this or defending people you know who lent work to support it. What do you honestly think Banksy/Pest Control think about this show? Positive comments or not so complimentary? Would you be fine being associated by Banksy/Pest Control with being supportive of the shows? Whether Banksy has anything beneficial come out of it doesn't defend it imo
Fair enough.
Not sure the point you are making.. I haven’t got anything in the show, won’t be going to the show, have no allegiance to anyone running the show.. I was just saying it as I see it If you think me commenting on here is intended to increase value of art I collect then I don’t think you comprehend the size of the Banksy market and the influence a single post on here has.. I.e. virtually none. I enjoy investigating marketing as a concept, that’s where my comments were based.. and I stand by the thought that any publicity is good publicity.. that’s how he has got to the level he is at now. That does sounds like a justification/defense statement. Are you justifying yourself for lending work to help support this or defending people you know who lent work to support it. What do you honestly think Banksy/Pest Control think about this show? Positive comments or not so complimentary? Would you be fine being associated by Banksy/Pest Control with being supportive of the shows? Whether Banksy has anything beneficial come out of it doesn't defend it imo Fair enough. |
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by Whitefish on Aug 16, 2018 19:21:53 GMT 1, 
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by moron on Aug 16, 2018 21:46:01 GMT 1, Banksy loves to see his name on billboards in huge letters.
Evere since he started he has had that obsession. Banksy painted in big letters everywhere.
Banksy loves to see his name on billboards in huge letters. Evere since he started he has had that obsession. Banksy painted in big letters everywhere. |
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by moron on Aug 16, 2018 21:48:37 GMT 1, This reads like a PR release and I guess banksy is an iphone user. "Hey banksy" LOL to that. Like a regular friend texting "Hey batman"
3D at the Apple Campus....both advertising for apple via Insta.
This reads like a PR release and I guess banksy is an iphone user. "Hey banksy" LOL to that. Like a regular friend texting "Hey batman"
3D at the Apple Campus....both advertising for apple via Insta.
Apple, made in China, in factory where fourteen workers committed suicide and no headphone jack. |
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by moron on Aug 16, 2018 21:54:55 GMT 1, We've already been through this with the other shows promoted by Live Nation and other mega corporations. Its very important to note these shows aren't being put on by individuals trying to make a quick buck. These corps. would never get involved with a "unofficial" show that opened them up to lawsuits or even negative press. The Moscow exhibition has the sponsorship of a number of Russia’s biggest companies, including the mobile provider MTS. The antivirus company Kaspersky was a partner for the exhibition, and a number of Russia’s most prominent news agencies were informational partners. Banksy is 100% involved in all this. This is like watching a movie and turning it off before the credits run and thinking it was real. What the hell is wrong with this place?
Plus it's not as if Russians haven't heard of Banksy since years ago and any oligarchs who wanted to buy a Banksy could have picked one up in London or anywhere else.
I would assume regarding copyright which the artist holds. It's not in breach of copyright to organise a free selling exhibition for people to sell the Banksy but could be in breach of copyright to organise a show where people pay to enter and look at a Banksy.
We've already been through this with the other shows promoted by Live Nation and other mega corporations. Its very important to note these shows aren't being put on by individuals trying to make a quick buck. These corps. would never get involved with a "unofficial" show that opened them up to lawsuits or even negative press. The Moscow exhibition has the sponsorship of a number of Russia’s biggest companies, including the mobile provider MTS. The antivirus company Kaspersky was a partner for the exhibition, and a number of Russia’s most prominent news agencies were informational partners. Banksy is 100% involved in all this. This is like watching a movie and turning it off before the credits run and thinking it was real. What the hell is wrong with this place? True. It would be easy to say he did not give permission for the show to use his trademarked name in giant letters out side the show. Plus it's not as if Russians haven't heard of Banksy since years ago and any oligarchs who wanted to buy a Banksy could have picked one up in London or anywhere else. I would assume regarding copyright which the artist holds. It's not in breach of copyright to organise a free selling exhibition for people to sell the Banksy but could be in breach of copyright to organise a show where people pay to enter and look at a Banksy. |
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by mojo on Aug 16, 2018 21:56:51 GMT 1, My mate went to that when the world cup was on, .....said it was good and he's got me a carrier bag or something? 
My mate went to that when the world cup was on, .....said it was good and he's got me a carrier bag or something? |
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by swissmade on Aug 16, 2018 22:38:53 GMT 1, I was in Amsterdam recently and happen to come across the 'Banksy' exhibition literately across from the Van Gogh Museum. I couldn't get into the Van Gogh so decided to check out the Banksy. I loved it. There were lots of pieces there that I'd not only never seen, I didn't know of their existence. Of course I knew it's not an official Banksy exhibition. It doesn't have Banksy's permission nor his blessing but it left me wondering if it was any different to the Van Gogh across the square. I still don't have an answer.
I was in Amsterdam recently and happen to come across the 'Banksy' exhibition literately across from the Van Gogh Museum. I couldn't get into the Van Gogh so decided to check out the Banksy. I loved it. There were lots of pieces there that I'd not only never seen, I didn't know of their existence. Of course I knew it's not an official Banksy exhibition. It doesn't have Banksy's permission nor his blessing but it left me wondering if it was any different to the Van Gogh across the square. I still don't have an answer.
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by Steph Rat Catcher on Aug 16, 2018 23:14:03 GMT 1, I was in Amsterdam recently and happen to come across the 'Banksy' exhibition literately across from the Van Gogh Museum. I couldn't get into the Van Gogh so decided to check out the Banksy. I loved it. There were lots of pieces there that I'd not only never seen, I didn't know of their existence. Of course I knew it's not an official Banksy exhibition. It doesn't have Banksy's permission nor his blessing but it left me wondering if it was any different to the Van Gogh across the square. I still don't have an answer.
they asked fell on deaf ear
I was in Amsterdam recently and happen to come across the 'Banksy' exhibition literately across from the Van Gogh Museum. I couldn't get into the Van Gogh so decided to check out the Banksy. I loved it. There were lots of pieces there that I'd not only never seen, I didn't know of their existence. Of course I knew it's not an official Banksy exhibition. It doesn't have Banksy's permission nor his blessing but it left me wondering if it was any different to the Van Gogh across the square. I still don't have an answer. they asked fell on deaf ear |
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by hibster on Aug 17, 2018 8:51:04 GMT 1, This reads like a PR release and I guess banksy is an iphone user. "Hey banksy" LOL to that. Like a regular friend texting "Hey batman"
3D at the Apple Campus....both advertising for apple via Insta.
so you've assumed that it's an actual screen shot of his phone & not something that's been mocked up? you know what happens when you make an assumption don't you? 
This reads like a PR release and I guess banksy is an iphone user. "Hey banksy" LOL to that. Like a regular friend texting "Hey batman"
3D at the Apple Campus....both advertising for apple via Insta.
so you've assumed that it's an actual screen shot of his phone & not something that's been mocked up? you know what happens when you make an assumption don't you?
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by russkov on Aug 17, 2018 10:48:58 GMT 1, Saw this post of GAT yesterday. Well, sounds pure PR. Never the exhibition here (I live in Moscow, that helps stating facts about reality here) claimed that the exhibition was supported by banksy, and sure it is not the underground or pure authentic DNA banksy in way of exhibiting.
Moreover the entrance does not cost 20gbp, just 8.5, even the tour with speaker for foreigners does not cost that much.
But I can testify that kids (at least mine), most of friends who couldn't get why I was collecting so much at least could have a glimpse on the why and the what for. In that regard that is great. And I enjoyed, having Murakami beginning of the year, Banksy (even not authorized), and in September Fairey, that is a great year.
That said, and for the few who my tastes in collecting, if I take Fairey only, there are tons of diverted art from Russia in his current images, and historically street art propaganda is very linked with these in Russia for the past century (even when it was not State "authorised") and there are quite some authentic street artists doing good here.
The interesting thing is that, just after this post there has been a message from the organisers reminding that they never claimed that Banksy was after it, nor gave his green light.
But when the remarks come from commercial galleries, pointing finger on a museum (Tretiakov gallery is in fact a museum) which just make all entrances for a quite affordable sum, well let's say that is the same irony as Eine, Eaton getting paid to write Moscow on a shopping mall and getting paid for that, trying to play now authentic roots and anticapitalist.
Even my daughter of 11 sees the irony and, referring to Eine and Eaton just wondered - her words - "how can an artist who is anti-system can get paid by the same system to decorate walls. can we call it street art? The talent is not enough to make a living?"
Lack of inspiration maybe?
Saw this post of GAT yesterday. Well, sounds pure PR. Never the exhibition here (I live in Moscow, that helps stating facts about reality here) claimed that the exhibition was supported by banksy, and sure it is not the underground or pure authentic DNA banksy in way of exhibiting.
Moreover the entrance does not cost 20gbp, just 8.5, even the tour with speaker for foreigners does not cost that much.
But I can testify that kids (at least mine), most of friends who couldn't get why I was collecting so much at least could have a glimpse on the why and the what for. In that regard that is great. And I enjoyed, having Murakami beginning of the year, Banksy (even not authorized), and in September Fairey, that is a great year.
That said, and for the few who my tastes in collecting, if I take Fairey only, there are tons of diverted art from Russia in his current images, and historically street art propaganda is very linked with these in Russia for the past century (even when it was not State "authorised") and there are quite some authentic street artists doing good here.
The interesting thing is that, just after this post there has been a message from the organisers reminding that they never claimed that Banksy was after it, nor gave his green light.
But when the remarks come from commercial galleries, pointing finger on a museum (Tretiakov gallery is in fact a museum) which just make all entrances for a quite affordable sum, well let's say that is the same irony as Eine, Eaton getting paid to write Moscow on a shopping mall and getting paid for that, trying to play now authentic roots and anticapitalist.
Even my daughter of 11 sees the irony and, referring to Eine and Eaton just wondered - her words - "how can an artist who is anti-system can get paid by the same system to decorate walls. can we call it street art? The talent is not enough to make a living?"
Lack of inspiration maybe?
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by irl1 on Aug 17, 2018 11:23:29 GMT 1, Saw this post of GAT yesterday. Well, sounds pure PR. Never the exhibition here (I live in Moscow, that helps stating facts about reality here) claimed that the exhibition was supported by banksy, and sure it is not the underground or pure authentic DNA banksy in way of exhibiting. Moreover the entrance does not cost 20gbp, just 8.5, even the tour with speaker for foreigners does not cost that much. But I can testify that kids (at least mine), most of friends who couldn't get why I was collecting so much at least could have a glimpse on the why and the what for. In that regard that is great. And I enjoyed, having Murakami beginning of the year, Banksy (even not authorized), and in September Fairey, that is a great year. That said, and for the few who my tastes in collecting, if I take Fairey only, there are tons of diverted art from Russia in his current images, and historically street art propaganda is very linked with these in Russia for the past century (even when it was not State "authorised") and there are quite some authentic street artists doing good here. The interesting thing is that, just after this post there has been a message from the organisers reminding that they never claimed that Banksy was after it, nor gave his green light. But when the remarks come from commercial galleries, pointing finger on a museum (Tretiakov gallery is in fact a museum) which just make all entrances for a quite affordable sum, well let's say that is the same irony as Eine, Eaton getting paid to write Moscow on a shopping mall and getting paid for that, trying to play now authentic roots and anticapitalist. Even my daughter of 11 sees the irony and, referring to Eine and Eaton just wondered - her words - "how can an artist who is anti-system can get paid by the same system to decorate walls. can we call it street art? The talent is not enough to make a living?" Lack of inspiration maybe?
Saw this post of GAT yesterday. Well, sounds pure PR. Never the exhibition here (I live in Moscow, that helps stating facts about reality here) claimed that the exhibition was supported by banksy, and sure it is not the underground or pure authentic DNA banksy in way of exhibiting. Moreover the entrance does not cost 20gbp, just 8.5, even the tour with speaker for foreigners does not cost that much. But I can testify that kids (at least mine), most of friends who couldn't get why I was collecting so much at least could have a glimpse on the why and the what for. In that regard that is great. And I enjoyed, having Murakami beginning of the year, Banksy (even not authorized), and in September Fairey, that is a great year. That said, and for the few who my tastes in collecting, if I take Fairey only, there are tons of diverted art from Russia in his current images, and historically street art propaganda is very linked with these in Russia for the past century (even when it was not State "authorised") and there are quite some authentic street artists doing good here. The interesting thing is that, just after this post there has been a message from the organisers reminding that they never claimed that Banksy was after it, nor gave his green light. But when the remarks come from commercial galleries, pointing finger on a museum (Tretiakov gallery is in fact a museum) which just make all entrances for a quite affordable sum, well let's say that is the same irony as Eine, Eaton getting paid to write Moscow on a shopping mall and getting paid for that, trying to play now authentic roots and anticapitalist. Even my daughter of 11 sees the irony and, referring to Eine and Eaton just wondered - her words - "how can an artist who is anti-system can get paid by the same system to decorate walls. can we call it street art? The talent is not enough to make a living?" Lack of inspiration maybe? Oh seeing those Ivan Shishkin paintings for real in the Tretyakov Gallery was amazing. That Museum must be one of the best in the world by far. |
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by Woodey1001 on Aug 17, 2018 11:42:35 GMT 1, I was in Amsterdam recently and happen to come across the 'Banksy' exhibition literately across from the Van Gogh Museum. I couldn't get into the Van Gogh so decided to check out the Banksy. I loved it. There were lots of pieces there that I'd not only never seen, I didn't know of their existence. Of course I knew it's not an official Banksy exhibition. It doesn't have Banksy's permission nor his blessing but it left me wondering if it was any different to the Van Gogh across the square. I still don't have an answer.
Van Gogh is another level to Banksy. The VG museum is one of the best in the world. You should have qeued for that. I feel sad for you missing it and getting the Banksy one instead.
I was in Amsterdam recently and happen to come across the 'Banksy' exhibition literately across from the Van Gogh Museum. I couldn't get into the Van Gogh so decided to check out the Banksy. I loved it. There were lots of pieces there that I'd not only never seen, I didn't know of their existence. Of course I knew it's not an official Banksy exhibition. It doesn't have Banksy's permission nor his blessing but it left me wondering if it was any different to the Van Gogh across the square. I still don't have an answer. Van Gogh is another level to Banksy. The VG museum is one of the best in the world. You should have qeued for that. I feel sad for you missing it and getting the Banksy one instead. |
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 11:50:40 GMT 1, Saw this post of GAT yesterday. Well, sounds pure PR. Never the exhibition here (I live in Moscow, that helps stating facts about reality here) claimed that the exhibition was supported by banksy, and sure it is not the underground or pure authentic DNA banksy in way of exhibiting. Moreover the entrance does not cost 20gbp, just 8.5, even the tour with speaker for foreigners does not cost that much. But I can testify that kids (at least mine), most of friends who couldn't get why I was collecting so much at least could have a glimpse on the why and the what for. In that regard that is great. And I enjoyed, having Murakami beginning of the year, Banksy (even not authorized), and in September Fairey, that is a great year. That said, and for the few who my tastes in collecting, if I take Fairey only, there are tons of diverted art from Russia in his current images, and historically street art propaganda is very linked with these in Russia for the past century (even when it was not State "authorised") and there are quite some authentic street artists doing good here. The interesting thing is that, just after this post there has been a message from the organisers reminding that they never claimed that Banksy was after it, nor gave his green light. But when the remarks come from commercial galleries, pointing finger on a museum (Tretiakov gallery is in fact a museum) which just make all entrances for a quite affordable sum, well let's say that is the same irony as Eine, Eaton getting paid to write Moscow on a shopping mall and getting paid for that, trying to play now authentic roots and anticapitalist. Even my daughter of 11 sees the irony and, referring to Eine and Eaton just wondered - her words - "how can an artist who is anti-system can get paid by the same system to decorate walls. can we call it street art? The talent is not enough to make a living?" Lack of inspiration maybe?
Money money money money money.....Money
Saw this post of GAT yesterday. Well, sounds pure PR. Never the exhibition here (I live in Moscow, that helps stating facts about reality here) claimed that the exhibition was supported by banksy, and sure it is not the underground or pure authentic DNA banksy in way of exhibiting. Moreover the entrance does not cost 20gbp, just 8.5, even the tour with speaker for foreigners does not cost that much. But I can testify that kids (at least mine), most of friends who couldn't get why I was collecting so much at least could have a glimpse on the why and the what for. In that regard that is great. And I enjoyed, having Murakami beginning of the year, Banksy (even not authorized), and in September Fairey, that is a great year. That said, and for the few who my tastes in collecting, if I take Fairey only, there are tons of diverted art from Russia in his current images, and historically street art propaganda is very linked with these in Russia for the past century (even when it was not State "authorised") and there are quite some authentic street artists doing good here. The interesting thing is that, just after this post there has been a message from the organisers reminding that they never claimed that Banksy was after it, nor gave his green light. But when the remarks come from commercial galleries, pointing finger on a museum (Tretiakov gallery is in fact a museum) which just make all entrances for a quite affordable sum, well let's say that is the same irony as Eine, Eaton getting paid to write Moscow on a shopping mall and getting paid for that, trying to play now authentic roots and anticapitalist. Even my daughter of 11 sees the irony and, referring to Eine and Eaton just wondered - her words - "how can an artist who is anti-system can get paid by the same system to decorate walls. can we call it street art? The talent is not enough to make a living?" Lack of inspiration maybe? Money money money money money.....Money |
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 11:54:59 GMT 1, We've already been through this with the other shows promoted by Live Nation and other mega corporations. Its very important to note these shows aren't being put on by individuals trying to make a quick buck. These corps. would never get involved with a "unofficial" show that opened them up to lawsuits or even negative press. The Moscow exhibition has the sponsorship of a number of Russia’s biggest companies, including the mobile provider MTS. The antivirus company Kaspersky was a partner for the exhibition, and a number of Russia’s most prominent news agencies were informational partners. Banksy is 100% involved in all this. This is like watching a movie and turning it off before the credits run and thinking it was real. What the hell is wrong with this place? True. It would be easy to say he did not give permission for the show to use his trademarked name in giant letters out side the show. Plus it's not as if Russians haven't heard of Banksy since years ago and any oligarchs who wanted to buy a Banksy could have picked one up in London or anywhere else. I would assume regarding copyright which the artist holds. It's not in breach of copyright to organise a free selling exhibition for people to sell the Banksy but could be in breach of copyright to organise a show where people pay to enter and look at a Banksy.
I bet You and Jimbo and Murkie have a little thing going on. Go on, you have, be honest. If you haven't, you really should.
We've already been through this with the other shows promoted by Live Nation and other mega corporations. Its very important to note these shows aren't being put on by individuals trying to make a quick buck. These corps. would never get involved with a "unofficial" show that opened them up to lawsuits or even negative press. The Moscow exhibition has the sponsorship of a number of Russia’s biggest companies, including the mobile provider MTS. The antivirus company Kaspersky was a partner for the exhibition, and a number of Russia’s most prominent news agencies were informational partners. Banksy is 100% involved in all this. This is like watching a movie and turning it off before the credits run and thinking it was real. What the hell is wrong with this place? True. It would be easy to say he did not give permission for the show to use his trademarked name in giant letters out side the show. Plus it's not as if Russians haven't heard of Banksy since years ago and any oligarchs who wanted to buy a Banksy could have picked one up in London or anywhere else. I would assume regarding copyright which the artist holds. It's not in breach of copyright to organise a free selling exhibition for people to sell the Banksy but could be in breach of copyright to organise a show where people pay to enter and look at a Banksy. I bet You and Jimbo and Murkie have a little thing going on. Go on, you have, be honest. If you haven't, you really should. |
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 17, 2018 12:20:19 GMT 1, True. It would be easy to say he did not give permission for the show to use his trademarked name in giant letters out side the show. Plus it's not as if Russians haven't heard of Banksy since years ago and any oligarchs who wanted to buy a Banksy could have picked one up in London or anywhere else. I would assume regarding copyright which the artist holds. It's not in breach of copyright to organise a free selling exhibition for people to sell the Banksy but could be in breach of copyright to organise a show where people pay to enter and look at a Banksy. I bet You and Jimbo and Murkie have a little thing going on. Go on, you have, be honest. If you haven't, you really should.
Conspiracy theory game is top notch 😂
True. It would be easy to say he did not give permission for the show to use his trademarked name in giant letters out side the show. Plus it's not as if Russians haven't heard of Banksy since years ago and any oligarchs who wanted to buy a Banksy could have picked one up in London or anywhere else. I would assume regarding copyright which the artist holds. It's not in breach of copyright to organise a free selling exhibition for people to sell the Banksy but could be in breach of copyright to organise a show where people pay to enter and look at a Banksy. I bet You and Jimbo and Murkie have a little thing going on. Go on, you have, be honest. If you haven't, you really should. Conspiracy theory game is top notch 😂 |
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by caruso on Aug 17, 2018 14:32:28 GMT 1, It seems Banksy is not quite as astute with his PR as with his art.
I don't understand why so many of you think an 'unapproved' show is a disgrace and should be prevented.
You may not have been to many exhibitions and not understand the concept.
If a collector happens to have enough pieces from any artist - dead or alive - they can exhibit them in a venue, gallery, museum. And they can charge visitors.
There is no law against it.
It seems Banksy is not quite as astute with his PR as with his art.
I don't understand why so many of you think an 'unapproved' show is a disgrace and should be prevented.
You may not have been to many exhibitions and not understand the concept.
If a collector happens to have enough pieces from any artist - dead or alive - they can exhibit them in a venue, gallery, museum. And they can charge visitors.
There is no law against it.
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caruso
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by caruso on Aug 17, 2018 14:34:40 GMT 1, I was in Amsterdam recently and happen to come across the 'Banksy' exhibition literately across from the Van Gogh Museum. I couldn't get into the Van Gogh so decided to check out the Banksy. I loved it. There were lots of pieces there that I'd not only never seen, I didn't know of their existence. Of course I knew it's not an official Banksy exhibition. It doesn't have Banksy's permission nor his blessing but it left me wondering if it was any different to the Van Gogh across the square. I still don't have an answer. Van Gogh is another level to Banksy. The VG museum is one of the best in the world. You should have qeued for that. I feel sad for you missing it and getting the Banksy one instead.
I was in Amsterdam recently and happen to come across the 'Banksy' exhibition literately across from the Van Gogh Museum. I couldn't get into the Van Gogh so decided to check out the Banksy. I loved it. There were lots of pieces there that I'd not only never seen, I didn't know of their existence. Of course I knew it's not an official Banksy exhibition. It doesn't have Banksy's permission nor his blessing but it left me wondering if it was any different to the Van Gogh across the square. I still don't have an answer. Van Gogh is another level to Banksy. The VG museum is one of the best in the world. You should have qeued for that. I feel sad for you missing it and getting the Banksy one instead. I second that, brilliant museum and exhibition, but I think he should have gone to both. |
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by Whitefish on Aug 17, 2018 23:38:19 GMT 1, This reads like a PR release and I guess banksy is an iphone user. "Hey banksy" LOL to that. Like a regular friend texting "Hey batman"
3D at the Apple Campus....both advertising for apple via Insta.
http://instagram.com/p/BmmF0IxA1xp
This reads like a PR release and I guess banksy is an iphone user. "Hey banksy" LOL to that. Like a regular friend texting "Hey batman"
3D at the Apple Campus....both advertising for apple via Insta.
http://instagram.com/p/BmmF0IxA1xp |
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by moron on Aug 18, 2018 18:37:39 GMT 1, True. It would be easy to say he did not give permission for the show to use his trademarked name in giant letters out side the show. Plus it's not as if Russians haven't heard of Banksy since years ago and any oligarchs who wanted to buy a Banksy could have picked one up in London or anywhere else. I would assume regarding copyright which the artist holds. It's not in breach of copyright to organise a free selling exhibition for people to sell the Banksy but could be in breach of copyright to organise a show where people pay to enter and look at a Banksy. I bet You and Jimbo and Murkie have a little thing going on. Go on, you have, be honest. If you haven't, you really should.
or we could be cult busters
True. It would be easy to say he did not give permission for the show to use his trademarked name in giant letters out side the show. Plus it's not as if Russians haven't heard of Banksy since years ago and any oligarchs who wanted to buy a Banksy could have picked one up in London or anywhere else. I would assume regarding copyright which the artist holds. It's not in breach of copyright to organise a free selling exhibition for people to sell the Banksy but could be in breach of copyright to organise a show where people pay to enter and look at a Banksy. I bet You and Jimbo and Murkie have a little thing going on. Go on, you have, be honest. If you haven't, you really should. yeeeees we is the urban art equivelant of those guys in Deliverance playing the banjo or we could be cult busters |
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by moron on Aug 18, 2018 18:41:47 GMT 1, It seems Banksy is not quite as astute with his PR as with his art. I don't understand why so many of you think an 'unapproved' show is a disgrace and should be prevented. You may not have been to many exhibitions and not understand the concept. If a collector happens to have enough pieces from any artist - dead or alive - they can exhibit them in a venue, gallery, museum. And they can charge visitors. There is no law against it.
lets face it tho the cheesy marketing by Banksy posting the wats crap phone message on his instagram was not very original and had the desired effect. I wonder if he was paid for this bit of viral advertising?
It seems Banksy is not quite as astute with his PR as with his art. I don't understand why so many of you think an 'unapproved' show is a disgrace and should be prevented. You may not have been to many exhibitions and not understand the concept. If a collector happens to have enough pieces from any artist - dead or alive - they can exhibit them in a venue, gallery, museum. And they can charge visitors. There is no law against it. makes no difference to me what collectors do with their art and personally I think it's a good thing but I also think these shows should be free. It's one thing the collectors showing off with the fifty million quid stencilled rat having a shit _ on a carboard without rubbing the publics nose in it. lets face it tho the cheesy marketing by Banksy posting the wats crap phone message on his instagram was not very original and had the desired effect. I wonder if he was paid for this bit of viral advertising? |
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by Whitefish on Aug 18, 2018 19:40:33 GMT 1,
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by Whitefish on Aug 18, 2018 19:49:22 GMT 1,
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by Dive Jedi on Aug 18, 2018 20:03:07 GMT 1, Too bad he didn't sing a bit.
Being 3D and all…..
Too bad he didn't sing a bit. Being 3D and all….. |
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by moron on Aug 19, 2018 14:59:15 GMT 1, The two seperate interviews from 95 and 2000 look like two different people to me. Voice and physically.
One could be Del Naja and the other could be the guy shown here.
londondada.art/2014/10/10/new-banksy-scoop-19535461/
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by Film Director 247 on Aug 20, 2018 15:03:02 GMT 1, I'm not an expert on Banksy but after watching those two interviews doesn't he sound completely different in 'Exit Through The Gift Shop'?
I know his voice was modified in the film but you can really hear his regional accent underneath the effect. He also sounds more well spoken than in the interviews.
I did check the credits on IMDB and it says Banksy as Himself. I thought he may have used a voice double...
I'm not an expert on Banksy but after watching those two interviews doesn't he sound completely different in 'Exit Through The Gift Shop'?
I know his voice was modified in the film but you can really hear his regional accent underneath the effect. He also sounds more well spoken than in the interviews.
I did check the credits on IMDB and it says Banksy as Himself. I thought he may have used a voice double...
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Banksy IG Post regarding Unauthorised Moscow Exhibition, by caruso on Aug 20, 2018 16:41:00 GMT 1, lets face it tho the cheesy marketing by Banksy posting the wats crap phone message on his instagram was not very original and had the desired effect. I wonder if he was paid for this bit of viral advertising?
lets face it tho the cheesy marketing by Banksy posting the wats crap phone message on his instagram was not very original and had the desired effect. I wonder if he was paid for this bit of viral advertising? Quite possibly, there is a going rate for IG user based on followers and fame level. |
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