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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Chris JL on Sept 14, 2018 7:30:02 GMT 1, In euros UK housing prices have already gone down by 30% or more since the referendum... I.e. we are massively poorer than we used to be - thank you brexiters (and their Kremlin sponsor). And if you don’t get why the euro value matter, remember that roughly half the UK households’ consumption bundle is produced in the EU. And if even with this I’m mind you don’t understand that we are already not that far from that claim... I guess you voted for leave 😞 Last time I checked I paid for my house in pounds not euros. Completely irrelevant. And you guess wrong.
Ditto. Please check the expression “money is a veil.” Get a coffee. Reread my post. And think again.
In euros UK housing prices have already gone down by 30% or more since the referendum... I.e. we are massively poorer than we used to be - thank you brexiters (and their Kremlin sponsor). And if you don’t get why the euro value matter, remember that roughly half the UK households’ consumption bundle is produced in the EU. And if even with this I’m mind you don’t understand that we are already not that far from that claim... I guess you voted for leave 😞 Last time I checked I paid for my house in pounds not euros. Completely irrelevant. And you guess wrong. Ditto. Please check the expression “money is a veil.” Get a coffee. Reread my post. And think again. |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 7:40:53 GMT 1, Last time I checked I paid for my house in pounds not euros. Completely irrelevant. And you guess wrong. Ditto. Please check the expression “money is a veil.” Get a coffee. Reread my post. And think again.
You want me to read up on the theory of money? I would need a bloody Irish coffee to get through that! I think I'll pass.
Last time I checked I paid for my house in pounds not euros. Completely irrelevant. And you guess wrong. Ditto. Please check the expression “money is a veil.” Get a coffee. Reread my post. And think again. You want me to read up on the theory of money? I would need a bloody Irish coffee to get through that! I think I'll pass. |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Chris JL on Sept 14, 2018 8:48:44 GMT 1, Ditto. Please check the expression “money is a veil.” Get a coffee. Reread my post. And think again. You want me to read up on the theory of money? I would need a bloody Irish coffee to get through that! I think I'll pass.
Nope, you just need to understand that the nominal value of your wealth, say 100 copeki, means one thing when buying your meal cost you 0000.1 copeki and a very different thing when buying your meal cost you 1M copeki. Ain’t rocket since.
Then you would understand that if 50% of what you consume all of a sudden is 30% more expensive, then you became all of a sudden poorer (after the coffee, you might even compute by how much - not rocket science).
Ditto. Please check the expression “money is a veil.” Get a coffee. Reread my post. And think again. You want me to read up on the theory of money? I would need a bloody Irish coffee to get through that! I think I'll pass. Nope, you just need to understand that the nominal value of your wealth, say 100 copeki, means one thing when buying your meal cost you 0000.1 copeki and a very different thing when buying your meal cost you 1M copeki. Ain’t rocket since. Then you would understand that if 50% of what you consume all of a sudden is 30% more expensive, then you became all of a sudden poorer (after the coffee, you might even compute by how much - not rocket science). |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 8:58:39 GMT 1, You want me to read up on the theory of money? I would need a bloody Irish coffee to get through that! I think I'll pass. Nope, you just need to understand that the nominal value of your wealth, say 100 copeki, means one thing when buying your meal cost you 0000.1 copeki and a very different thing when buying your meal cost you 1M copeki. Ain’t rocket since. Then you would understand that if 50% of what you consume all of a sudden is 30% more expensive, then you became all of a sudden poorer (after the coffee, you might even compute by how much - not rocket science).
Yes inflation is a real thing. What's your point?
You want me to read up on the theory of money? I would need a bloody Irish coffee to get through that! I think I'll pass. Nope, you just need to understand that the nominal value of your wealth, say 100 copeki, means one thing when buying your meal cost you 0000.1 copeki and a very different thing when buying your meal cost you 1M copeki. Ain’t rocket since. Then you would understand that if 50% of what you consume all of a sudden is 30% more expensive, then you became all of a sudden poorer (after the coffee, you might even compute by how much - not rocket science). Yes inflation is a real thing. What's your point? |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Chris JL on Sept 14, 2018 15:24:26 GMT 1, Nope, you just need to understand that the nominal value of your wealth, say 100 copeki, means one thing when buying your meal cost you 0000.1 copeki and a very different thing when buying your meal cost you 1M copeki. Ain’t rocket since. Then you would understand that if 50% of what you consume all of a sudden is 30% more expensive, then you became all of a sudden poorer (after the coffee, you might even compute by how much - not rocket science). Yes inflation is a real thing. What's your point?
Forget it, really 🤦♂️
Nope, you just need to understand that the nominal value of your wealth, say 100 copeki, means one thing when buying your meal cost you 0000.1 copeki and a very different thing when buying your meal cost you 1M copeki. Ain’t rocket since. Then you would understand that if 50% of what you consume all of a sudden is 30% more expensive, then you became all of a sudden poorer (after the coffee, you might even compute by how much - not rocket science). Yes inflation is a real thing. What's your point? Forget it, really 🤦♂️ |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Shoot Again on Sept 14, 2018 15:32:57 GMT 1, In euros UK housing prices have already gone down by 30% or more since the referendum... I.e. we are massively poorer than we used to be - thank you brexiters (and their Kremlin sponsor). And if you don’t get why the euro value matter, remember that roughly half the UK households’ consumption bundle is produced in the EU. And if even with this I’m mind you don’t understand that we are already not that far from that claim... I guess you voted for leave 😞 Last time I checked I paid for my house in pounds not euros. Completely irrelevant. And you guess wrong.
In euros UK housing prices have already gone down by 30% or more since the referendum... I.e. we are massively poorer than we used to be - thank you brexiters (and their Kremlin sponsor). And if you don’t get why the euro value matter, remember that roughly half the UK households’ consumption bundle is produced in the EU. And if even with this I’m mind you don’t understand that we are already not that far from that claim... I guess you voted for leave 😞 Last time I checked I paid for my house in pounds not euros. Completely irrelevant. And you guess wrong. I hope you enjoy your holidays in UK ;-) |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 15:34:04 GMT 1, Yes inflation is a real thing. What's your point? Forget it, really 🤦♂️
But I've had my coffee and everything. I was looking forward to hearing how companies always pass on 100% of exchange rate changes to the consumer and that there are never any offsetting factors. Shame.
Yes inflation is a real thing. What's your point? Forget it, really 🤦♂️ But I've had my coffee and everything. I was looking forward to hearing how companies always pass on 100% of exchange rate changes to the consumer and that there are never any offsetting factors. Shame. |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 15:36:49 GMT 1, Last time I checked I paid for my house in pounds not euros. Completely irrelevant. And you guess wrong. I hope you enjoy your holidays in UK ;-)
Only luxury holidays abroad for me, luckily cheaper exports have made for really good business this year! ;-)
Last time I checked I paid for my house in pounds not euros. Completely irrelevant. And you guess wrong. I hope you enjoy your holidays in UK ;-) Only luxury holidays abroad for me, luckily cheaper exports have made for really good business this year! ;-) |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Chris JL on Sept 14, 2018 15:37:08 GMT 1, But I've had my coffee and everything. I was looking forward to hearing how companies always pass on 100% of exchange rate changes to the consumer and that there are never any offsetting factors. Shame.
Really, forget it. It’s ok (well, unless you have to make any meaningful economic decision for a leaving, in which case please hire a consultant)
But I've had my coffee and everything. I was looking forward to hearing how companies always pass on 100% of exchange rate changes to the consumer and that there are never any offsetting factors. Shame. Really, forget it. It’s ok (well, unless you have to make any meaningful economic decision for a leaving, in which case please hire a consultant) |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 15:39:04 GMT 1, But I've had my coffee and everything. I was looking forward to hearing how companies always pass on 100% of exchange rate changes to the consumer and that there are never any offsetting factors. Shame. Really, forget it. It’s ok (well, unless you have to make any meaningful economic decision for a leaving, in which case please hire a consultant)
I fully understand and respect that you've realised your argument is nonsense so want to drop it. No problem at all.
But I've had my coffee and everything. I was looking forward to hearing how companies always pass on 100% of exchange rate changes to the consumer and that there are never any offsetting factors. Shame. Really, forget it. It’s ok (well, unless you have to make any meaningful economic decision for a leaving, in which case please hire a consultant) I fully understand and respect that you've realised your argument is nonsense so want to drop it. No problem at all. |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Chris JL on Sept 14, 2018 15:42:29 GMT 1, Really, forget it. It’s ok (well, unless you have to make any meaningful economic decision for a leaving, in which case please hire a consultant) I fully understand and respect that you've realised your argument is nonsense so want to drop it. No problem at all.
Nope. It’s that I charge 600gbp per hour, or 3k for the day, for consulting on financial and economic matters. And when I teach economics and finance, I do it to some of the smartest kids out there.
Since you clearly don’t fit either the consulting nor the smart kids category... please forget it.
Really, forget it. It’s ok (well, unless you have to make any meaningful economic decision for a leaving, in which case please hire a consultant) I fully understand and respect that you've realised your argument is nonsense so want to drop it. No problem at all. Nope. It’s that I charge 600gbp per hour, or 3k for the day, for consulting on financial and economic matters. And when I teach economics and finance, I do it to some of the smartest kids out there. Since you clearly don’t fit either the consulting nor the smart kids category... please forget it. |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 15:46:41 GMT 1, I fully understand and respect that you've realised your argument is nonsense so want to drop it. No problem at all. Nope. It’s that I charge 600gbp per hour, or 3k for the day, for consulting on financial and economic matters. And when I teach economics and finance, I do it to some of the smartest kids out there. Since you clearly don’t seem to feet neither the consulting nor the smart kids category... please forget it.
Those who can't, teach. When your students challenge you do you always just resort to 'I'm so smart and you wouldn't understand'?
You teach it (incorrectly), I actually do it. Oh well.
I fully understand and respect that you've realised your argument is nonsense so want to drop it. No problem at all. Nope. It’s that I charge 600gbp per hour, or 3k for the day, for consulting on financial and economic matters. And when I teach economics and finance, I do it to some of the smartest kids out there. Since you clearly don’t seem to feet neither the consulting nor the smart kids category... please forget it. hahaha, classic! Those who can't, teach. When your students challenge you do you always just resort to 'I'm so smart and you wouldn't understand'? You teach it (incorrectly), I actually do it. Oh well. |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 15:48:03 GMT 1, I am not an art expert, but the original question seems to have different answers depending on which segments of the market you are considering. I suppose the big losses will be at the top, mostly due to shift away from London of the big sales.
I am not an art expert, but the original question seems to have different answers depending on which segments of the market you are considering. I suppose the big losses will be at the top, mostly due to shift away from London of the big sales.
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Chris JL on Sept 14, 2018 15:48:33 GMT 1, Nope. It’s that I charge 600gbp per hour, or 3k for the day, for consulting on financial and economic matters. And when I teach economics and finance, I do it to some of the smartest kids out there. Since you clearly don’t seem to feet neither the consulting nor the smart kids category... please forget it. hahaha, classic! Those who can't, teach. When your students challenge you do you always just resort to 'I'm so smart and you wouldn't understand'? You teach it (incorrectly), I actually do it. Oh well.
Nope. People as smart as you sound get kicked out pretty quickly in good institutions. So no need. But honestly, be merry, really.
Nope. It’s that I charge 600gbp per hour, or 3k for the day, for consulting on financial and economic matters. And when I teach economics and finance, I do it to some of the smartest kids out there. Since you clearly don’t seem to feet neither the consulting nor the smart kids category... please forget it. hahaha, classic! Those who can't, teach. When your students challenge you do you always just resort to 'I'm so smart and you wouldn't understand'? You teach it (incorrectly), I actually do it. Oh well. Nope. People as smart as you sound get kicked out pretty quickly in good institutions. So no need. But honestly, be merry, really. |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 15:53:49 GMT 1, hahaha, classic! Those who can't, teach. When your students challenge you do you always just resort to 'I'm so smart and you wouldn't understand'? You teach it (incorrectly), I actually do it. Oh well. Nope. People as smart as you sound get kicked out pretty quickly in good institutions. So no need. But honestly, be merry, really.
I got my degree many years ago my friend. You don't seem to understand the very basics, probably because you've never left the classroom. Anyway, have a good evening. Sorry you couldn't back up your argument and had to bring up how much you earn (something that is never done in the real world of finance).
We are approaching the market close now so I better focus. Good luck with your marking.
hahaha, classic! Those who can't, teach. When your students challenge you do you always just resort to 'I'm so smart and you wouldn't understand'? You teach it (incorrectly), I actually do it. Oh well. Nope. People as smart as you sound get kicked out pretty quickly in good institutions. So no need. But honestly, be merry, really. I got my degree many years ago my friend. You don't seem to understand the very basics, probably because you've never left the classroom. Anyway, have a good evening. Sorry you couldn't back up your argument and had to bring up how much you earn (something that is never done in the real world of finance). We are approaching the market close now so I better focus. Good luck with your marking. |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Chris JL on Sept 14, 2018 16:04:45 GMT 1, Nope. People as smart as you sound get kicked out pretty quickly in good institutions. So no need. But honestly, be merry, really. I got my degree many years ago my friend. You don't seem to understand the very basics, probably because you've never left the classroom. Anyway, have a good evening. Sorry you couldn't back up your argument and had to bring up how much you earn (something that is never done in the real world of finance). We are approaching the market close now so I better focus. Good luck with your marking.
Once again, you have no idea what you are talking about 😊
But honestly, it’s not about you and me. So please please do not take it personal - no offence meant, just not enough patience and a jet lag (unfortunately I give public talks instead of marking, hence too much flying).
The very sad thing (for me) is that the basic educational system, and the political class when these issues involve voting, utterly failed you and million more people. And that’s not only Brexit, but Trumpism, Orban, immigration etc etc.
I’m totally fine with people having positions out of self interest (totally legit). But the pie in the sky/basic logic failures honestly make me sad.
Anyway, all I know is that I know nothing.
Nope. People as smart as you sound get kicked out pretty quickly in good institutions. So no need. But honestly, be merry, really. I got my degree many years ago my friend. You don't seem to understand the very basics, probably because you've never left the classroom. Anyway, have a good evening. Sorry you couldn't back up your argument and had to bring up how much you earn (something that is never done in the real world of finance). We are approaching the market close now so I better focus. Good luck with your marking. Once again, you have no idea what you are talking about 😊 But honestly, it’s not about you and me. So please please do not take it personal - no offence meant, just not enough patience and a jet lag (unfortunately I give public talks instead of marking, hence too much flying). The very sad thing (for me) is that the basic educational system, and the political class when these issues involve voting, utterly failed you and million more people. And that’s not only Brexit, but Trumpism, Orban, immigration etc etc. I’m totally fine with people having positions out of self interest (totally legit). But the pie in the sky/basic logic failures honestly make me sad. Anyway, all I know is that I know nothing. |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 16:32:44 GMT 1, I got my degree many years ago my friend. You don't seem to understand the very basics, probably because you've never left the classroom. Anyway, have a good evening. Sorry you couldn't back up your argument and had to bring up how much you earn (something that is never done in the real world of finance). We are approaching the market close now so I better focus. Good luck with your marking. Once again, you have no idea what you are talking about 😊 But honestly, it’s not about you and me. So please please do not take it personal - no offence meant (just not enough patience and a jet lag). The very sad thing (for me) is that the basic educational system, and the political class when these issues involve voting, utterly failed you and million more people. And that’s not only Brexit, but Trumpism, Orban, immigration etc etc. I’m totally fine with people having positions out of self interest (totally legit). But the pie in the sky/basic logic failures honestly make me sad. Anyway, all I know is that I know nothing.
It's not personal for me at all, even though your tried to make it so.
What makes me sad is people who feel so intellectually superior based on nothing. I didn't vote Leave, but the amount of sneering makes me sick. 'thick northerners are too blame', 'they didn't know what they voted for', etc. Politicians that got two Es at GSCE and with no real world experience think they know better than the people they are meant to represent. That's what makes me sad.
The people of this country knew exactly what they voted for and it's the job or our politicians to deliver that. Regardless of how high and mighty and superior you think you are. You might get lots of praise in your echo chamber, but that doesn't make your vote any more valuable than any other vote.
Anyway, nothing personal. But I will never have any respect for any smug 'economist' who constantly tells other people who much smarter he is than them. Especially as you only said that after you realised I was proving you wrong.
I got my degree many years ago my friend. You don't seem to understand the very basics, probably because you've never left the classroom. Anyway, have a good evening. Sorry you couldn't back up your argument and had to bring up how much you earn (something that is never done in the real world of finance). We are approaching the market close now so I better focus. Good luck with your marking. Once again, you have no idea what you are talking about 😊 But honestly, it’s not about you and me. So please please do not take it personal - no offence meant (just not enough patience and a jet lag). The very sad thing (for me) is that the basic educational system, and the political class when these issues involve voting, utterly failed you and million more people. And that’s not only Brexit, but Trumpism, Orban, immigration etc etc. I’m totally fine with people having positions out of self interest (totally legit). But the pie in the sky/basic logic failures honestly make me sad. Anyway, all I know is that I know nothing. It's not personal for me at all, even though your tried to make it so. What makes me sad is people who feel so intellectually superior based on nothing. I didn't vote Leave, but the amount of sneering makes me sick. 'thick northerners are too blame', 'they didn't know what they voted for', etc. Politicians that got two Es at GSCE and with no real world experience think they know better than the people they are meant to represent. That's what makes me sad. The people of this country knew exactly what they voted for and it's the job or our politicians to deliver that. Regardless of how high and mighty and superior you think you are. You might get lots of praise in your echo chamber, but that doesn't make your vote any more valuable than any other vote. Anyway, nothing personal. But I will never have any respect for any smug 'economist' who constantly tells other people who much smarter he is than them. Especially as you only said that after you realised I was proving you wrong. |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Chris JL on Sept 14, 2018 16:37:44 GMT 1, @jt36
Man: it’s basic consumption to wealth ratio. If you can’t get that, nobody can help you, sorry (I even gave you the numbers - can you take a bloody ratio?)
I’m not giving up on you out of any “superiority.” Only out of hopelessness.
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Man: it’s basic consumption to wealth ratio. If you can’t get that, nobody can help you, sorry (I even gave you the numbers - can you take a bloody ratio?)
I’m not giving up on you out of any “superiority.” Only out of hopelessness.
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 16:41:46 GMT 1, @jt36 Man: it’s basic consumption to wealth ratio. If you can’t get that, nobody can help you, sorry (I even gave you the numbers - can you take a bloody ratio?) I’m not giving up on you out of any “superiority.” Only out of hopelessness.
There you go again. You think you know better but you don't know shit. Come on, explain how goods go up in price in a direct correlation with the exchange rate... I'll wait... and that's even ignoring wage growth or other goods becoming cheaper...
@jt36 Man: it’s basic consumption to wealth ratio. If you can’t get that, nobody can help you, sorry (I even gave you the numbers - can you take a bloody ratio?) I’m not giving up on you out of any “superiority.” Only out of hopelessness. There you go again. You think you know better but you don't know shit. Come on, explain how goods go up in price in a direct correlation with the exchange rate... I'll wait... and that's even ignoring wage growth or other goods becoming cheaper... |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Happy Shopper on Sept 14, 2018 16:43:09 GMT 1, The people of this country knew exactly what they voted for and it's the job or our politicians to deliver that.
Do you think most people voted to leave at all costs, even if there's no deal and even if their employers are telling them they could lose there jobs?
Or do you think they voted leave because they were told there would be more money for the NHS and their local area, and an end to mass immigration?
Because I think it's more likely the second one... and therefore I'd assume many might rethink if the reality turns out to be different.
The people of this country knew exactly what they voted for and it's the job or our politicians to deliver that. Do you think most people voted to leave at all costs, even if there's no deal and even if their employers are telling them they could lose there jobs? Or do you think they voted leave because they were told there would be more money for the NHS and their local area, and an end to mass immigration? Because I think it's more likely the second one... and therefore I'd assume many might rethink if the reality turns out to be different. |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Happy Shopper on Sept 14, 2018 16:45:51 GMT 1, @jt36 Man: it’s basic consumption to wealth ratio. If you can’t get that, nobody can help you, sorry (I even gave you the numbers - can you take a bloody ratio?) I’m not giving up on you out of any “superiority.” Only out of hopelessness. There you go again. You think you know better but you don't knows**t. Come on, explain how goods go up in price in a direct correlation with the exchange rate... I'll wait... and that's even ignoring wage growth or other goods becoming cheaper...
Come on man, it's very simple... If the pound buys fewer oranges from Spain then the cost of Oranges goes up! It's that straight forward.
@jt36 Man: it’s basic consumption to wealth ratio. If you can’t get that, nobody can help you, sorry (I even gave you the numbers - can you take a bloody ratio?) I’m not giving up on you out of any “superiority.” Only out of hopelessness. There you go again. You think you know better but you don't knows**t. Come on, explain how goods go up in price in a direct correlation with the exchange rate... I'll wait... and that's even ignoring wage growth or other goods becoming cheaper... Come on man, it's very simple... If the pound buys fewer oranges from Spain then the cost of Oranges goes up! It's that straight forward. |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 16:45:59 GMT 1, The people of this country knew exactly what they voted for and it's the job or our politicians to deliver that. Do you think most people voted to leave at all costs, even if there's no deal and even if their employers are telling them they could lose there jobs? Or do you think they voted leave because they were told there would be more money for the NHS and their local area, and an end to mass immigration? Because I think it's more likely the second one... and therefore I'd assume many might rethink if the reality turns out to be different.
The people of this country knew exactly what they voted for and it's the job or our politicians to deliver that. Do you think most people voted to leave at all costs, even if there's no deal and even if their employers are telling them they could lose there jobs? Or do you think they voted leave because they were told there would be more money for the NHS and their local area, and an end to mass immigration? Because I think it's more likely the second one... and therefore I'd assume many might rethink if the reality turns out to be different. Your question is a bit too loaded. You're assuming leaving with no deal will be a disaster, I don't think this. I think people had legitimate reasons for voting even if I didn't agree with those reasons. |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Chris JL on Sept 14, 2018 16:46:14 GMT 1, @jt36 Man: it’s basic consumption to wealth ratio. If you can’t get that, nobody can help you, sorry (I even gave you the numbers - can you take a bloody ratio?) I’m not giving up on you out of any “superiority.” Only out of hopelessness. There you go again. You think you know better but you don't knows**t. Come on, explain how goods go up in price in a direct correlation with the exchange rate... I'll wait... and that's even ignoring wage growth or other goods becoming cheaper...
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 16:48:12 GMT 1, So do either of you 2 @ chrisji @ jt36 see an average Uk family 2.4 children average wage being better off in the next 5 years or worse off
10 years?
I see it that anyone that since we have been in the EU, its all been pretty good for us since 1973, lots of city regeneration, people buying houses etc etc. quality of life been the best ever
So do either of you 2 @ chrisji @ jt36 see an average Uk family 2.4 children average wage being better off in the next 5 years or worse off
10 years?
I see it that anyone that since we have been in the EU, its all been pretty good for us since 1973, lots of city regeneration, people buying houses etc etc. quality of life been the best ever
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 16:48:45 GMT 1, There you go again. You think you know better but you don't knows**t. Come on, explain how goods go up in price in a direct correlation with the exchange rate... I'll wait... and that's even ignoring wage growth or other goods becoming cheaper... Come on man, it's very simple... If the pound buys fewer oranges from Spain then the cost of Oranges goes up! It's that straight forward.
No it actually isn't that straight forward. Have you never heard of FX hedging? Or these things called orange juice futures? Sure Eddie Murphy mentioned them in a film once. And even if a company has done neither of these things do they always pass the whole cost onto the consumer or do they often take the hit?
Just maybe things aren't that simple... and there's always the off chance I do know what I'm talking about...
There you go again. You think you know better but you don't knows**t. Come on, explain how goods go up in price in a direct correlation with the exchange rate... I'll wait... and that's even ignoring wage growth or other goods becoming cheaper... Come on man, it's very simple... If the pound buys fewer oranges from Spain then the cost of Oranges goes up! It's that straight forward. No it actually isn't that straight forward. Have you never heard of FX hedging? Or these things called orange juice futures? Sure Eddie Murphy mentioned them in a film once. And even if a company has done neither of these things do they always pass the whole cost onto the consumer or do they often take the hit? Just maybe things aren't that simple... and there's always the off chance I do know what I'm talking about... |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Chris JL on Sept 14, 2018 16:51:16 GMT 1, There you go again. You think you know better but you don't knows**t. Come on, explain how goods go up in price in a direct correlation with the exchange rate... I'll wait... and that's even ignoring wage growth or other goods becoming cheaper... Come on man, it's very simple... If the pound buys fewer oranges from Spain then the cost of Oranges goes up! It's that straight forward.
He knows we will all buy Scottish oranges and tangerines. Much cheaper to make them there 😉
There you go again. You think you know better but you don't knows**t. Come on, explain how goods go up in price in a direct correlation with the exchange rate... I'll wait... and that's even ignoring wage growth or other goods becoming cheaper... Come on man, it's very simple... If the pound buys fewer oranges from Spain then the cost of Oranges goes up! It's that straight forward. He knows we will all buy Scottish oranges and tangerines. Much cheaper to make them there 😉 |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 16:51:53 GMT 1, So do either of you 2 @ chrisji @ jt36 see an average Uk family 2.4 children average wage being better off in the next 5 years or worse off 10 years? I see it that anyone that since we have been in the EU, its all been pretty good for us since 1973, lots of city regeneration, people buying houses etc etc. quality of life been the best ever
I'm not arrogant enough to pretend I can predict the future when there are so many unknowns. But I do see other trading partners being more important to us in the future and am big believe in free trade. One thing I am fairly certain of is that our politicians are useless and they will need to get their act together quickly if we are to stand any chance!
So do either of you 2 @ chrisji @ jt36 see an average Uk family 2.4 children average wage being better off in the next 5 years or worse off 10 years? I see it that anyone that since we have been in the EU, its all been pretty good for us since 1973, lots of city regeneration, people buying houses etc etc. quality of life been the best ever I'm not arrogant enough to pretend I can predict the future when there are so many unknowns. But I do see other trading partners being more important to us in the future and am big believe in free trade. One thing I am fairly certain of is that our politicians are useless and they will need to get their act together quickly if we are to stand any chance! |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Happy Shopper on Sept 14, 2018 16:52:14 GMT 1, Do you think most people voted to leave at all costs, even if there's no deal and even if their employers are telling them they could lose there jobs? Or do you think they voted leave because they were told there would be more money for the NHS and their local area, and an end to mass immigration? Because I think it's more likely the second one... and therefore I'd assume many might rethink if the reality turns out to be different. Your question is a bit too loaded. You're assuming leaving with no deal will be a disaster, I don't think this. I think people had legitimate reasons for voting even if I didn't agree with those reasons.
I'm not a financial expert, but everything I'm seeing on TV and reading is saying it will be bad for our economy... and I think it's fairly common sense to know that more complications on imports will increase costs of things.
Plus, I have friends who work in the car industry who know factories will almost certainly have to move. This is a reality, and they're lobbying at the highest levels to see if there's special deals that can be done.
Do you think most people voted to leave at all costs, even if there's no deal and even if their employers are telling them they could lose there jobs? Or do you think they voted leave because they were told there would be more money for the NHS and their local area, and an end to mass immigration? Because I think it's more likely the second one... and therefore I'd assume many might rethink if the reality turns out to be different. Your question is a bit too loaded. You're assuming leaving with no deal will be a disaster, I don't think this. I think people had legitimate reasons for voting even if I didn't agree with those reasons. I'm not a financial expert, but everything I'm seeing on TV and reading is saying it will be bad for our economy... and I think it's fairly common sense to know that more complications on imports will increase costs of things. Plus, I have friends who work in the car industry who know factories will almost certainly have to move. This is a reality, and they're lobbying at the highest levels to see if there's special deals that can be done. |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 16:54:57 GMT 1, Your question is a bit too loaded. You're assuming leaving with no deal will be a disaster, I don't think this. I think people had legitimate reasons for voting even if I didn't agree with those reasons. I'm not a financial expert, but everything I'm seeing on TV and reading is saying it will be bad for our economy... and I think it's fairly common sense to know that more complications on imports will increase costs of things. Plus, I have friends who work in the car industry who know factories will almost certainly have to move. This is a reality, and they're lobbying at the highest levels to see if there's special deals that can be done.
That's because keeping people in fear is good TV.
I'd say there is a very high chance that our currency does tank. Bad for our imports but very good for our exports.
Cars is an interesting one. Who do think will lose our more for having a different arrangement in terms of tariffs on cars? Us or the Germans?
Your question is a bit too loaded. You're assuming leaving with no deal will be a disaster, I don't think this. I think people had legitimate reasons for voting even if I didn't agree with those reasons. I'm not a financial expert, but everything I'm seeing on TV and reading is saying it will be bad for our economy... and I think it's fairly common sense to know that more complications on imports will increase costs of things. Plus, I have friends who work in the car industry who know factories will almost certainly have to move. This is a reality, and they're lobbying at the highest levels to see if there's special deals that can be done. That's because keeping people in fear is good TV. I'd say there is a very high chance that our currency does tank. Bad for our imports but very good for our exports. Cars is an interesting one. Who do think will lose our more for having a different arrangement in terms of tariffs on cars? Us or the Germans? |
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Brexit positive or negativefor the uk and Europe art market , by Happy Shopper on Sept 14, 2018 17:09:45 GMT 1, I'm not a financial expert, but everything I'm seeing on TV and reading is saying it will be bad for our economy... and I think it's fairly common sense to know that more complications on imports will increase costs of things. Plus, I have friends who work in the car industry who know factories will almost certainly have to move. This is a reality, and they're lobbying at the highest levels to see if there's special deals that can be done. That's because keeping people in fear is good TV. I'd say there is a very high chance that our currency does tank. Bad for our imports but very good for our exports. Cars is an interesting one. Who do think will lose our more for having a different arrangement in terms of tariffs on cars? Us or the Germans?
I don't know about you, but I don't export much... I do buy a lot of imported goods though, and I go on holiday in Europe. So a tanked pound doesn't have many benefits to me.
The cars issue is a crazy one. Many people who work in the factory voted leave, now they're the ones being told the factory may have to move to Europe. Design department, sales and management are obviously less effected.
That's not a made up example, it's a real situation at a major car maker (I won't name which one). The bosses have meetings with Theresa May almost weekly. It's that big a deal for the economy.
I'm not a financial expert, but everything I'm seeing on TV and reading is saying it will be bad for our economy... and I think it's fairly common sense to know that more complications on imports will increase costs of things. Plus, I have friends who work in the car industry who know factories will almost certainly have to move. This is a reality, and they're lobbying at the highest levels to see if there's special deals that can be done. That's because keeping people in fear is good TV. I'd say there is a very high chance that our currency does tank. Bad for our imports but very good for our exports. Cars is an interesting one. Who do think will lose our more for having a different arrangement in terms of tariffs on cars? Us or the Germans? I don't know about you, but I don't export much... I do buy a lot of imported goods though, and I go on holiday in Europe. So a tanked pound doesn't have many benefits to me. The cars issue is a crazy one. Many people who work in the factory voted leave, now they're the ones being told the factory may have to move to Europe. Design department, sales and management are obviously less effected. That's not a made up example, it's a real situation at a major car maker (I won't name which one). The bosses have meetings with Theresa May almost weekly. It's that big a deal for the economy. |
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