Fast Eddie
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Fury v. Wilder in LA Dec 1st, by Fast Eddie on Nov 21, 2018 20:03:56 GMT 1, Not sure how many Tyson Fury's fans are out here. Or Wilder's. But I have always been a boxing fan and I am excited about heavyweights once again. As usual in this sport, one has to make the effort to separate the personal flaws of character from the guts and artistry in the ring. Tyson Fury is an awkward stylist, gifted and crafty, but I am afraid the time of reckoning against brute force has arrived.
Not sure how many Tyson Fury's fans are out here. Or Wilder's. But I have always been a boxing fan and I am excited about heavyweights once again. As usual in this sport, one has to make the effort to separate the personal flaws of character from the guts and artistry in the ring. Tyson Fury is an awkward stylist, gifted and crafty, but I am afraid the time of reckoning against brute force has arrived.
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Fury v. Wilder in LA Dec 1st, by iamzero on Nov 22, 2018 12:15:39 GMT 1, I can see Wilder getting frustrated at Furyโs style... or lack of it depending how you see things.
I can see Wilder getting frustrated at Furyโs style... or lack of it depending how you see things.
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Fast Eddie
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Fury v. Wilder in LA Dec 1st, by Fast Eddie on Nov 22, 2018 20:37:24 GMT 1, That is a fairly likely scenario. Especially if Wilder hasn't prepared against a true boxer in sparring.
Fury however had to cut short his training at Bear Mountain. Altitude training was too taxing for him, which worries me in terms of his conditioning and staying power. Wilder is a monster athlete and could kill him in the 7th-8th round.
UK boxing will do great anyway, as the winner will face AJ.
That is a fairly likely scenario. Especially if Wilder hasn't prepared against a true boxer in sparring.
Fury however had to cut short his training at Bear Mountain. Altitude training was too taxing for him, which worries me in terms of his conditioning and staying power. Wilder is a monster athlete and could kill him in the 7th-8th round.
UK boxing will do great anyway, as the winner will face AJ.
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Fury v. Wilder in LA Dec 1st, by iamzero on Nov 22, 2018 21:58:40 GMT 1, Wilder I think has been foolish in dodging AJ for so long. I can see that heโs scared about losing that belt but the truth is he had a better chance of beating Joshua 12/18 months ago while he was still not as ring wise. Far harder now heโs getting stronger and a more knowledgeable boxer.
Wilder I think has been foolish in dodging AJ for so long. I can see that heโs scared about losing that belt but the truth is he had a better chance of beating Joshua 12/18 months ago while he was still not as ring wise. Far harder now heโs getting stronger and a more knowledgeable boxer.
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Fast Eddie
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Fury v. Wilder in LA Dec 1st, by Fast Eddie on Nov 23, 2018 17:00:29 GMT 1, In my opinion Wilder needed the Ortiz fight first, but I agree AJ has made great steps forward and is more dangerous now.
The better boxer in terms of technique and fundamentals remains Fury. The other two are an order of magnitude better in terms of conditioning. At heavyweigth that may not mean Fury will be KO.
In my opinion Wilder needed the Ortiz fight first, but I agree AJ has made great steps forward and is more dangerous now.
The better boxer in terms of technique and fundamentals remains Fury. The other two are an order of magnitude better in terms of conditioning. At heavyweigth that may not mean Fury will be KO.
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Fury v. Wilder in LA Dec 1st, by Carl Cashman on Nov 23, 2018 17:58:02 GMT 1, Hope Fury wins, was never a fan.. but his work for mental health is commendable.
Hope Fury wins, was never a fan.. but his work for mental health is commendable.
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Fast Eddie
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Fury v. Wilder in LA Dec 1st, by Fast Eddie on Nov 23, 2018 18:16:01 GMT 1, It is. Fury was chronically depressed and suicidal. Yet he came back from the brink. Wilder has also a compelling life story. He gave up football and started boxing at 19, to care for his daughter who is affected by an illness.
It is. Fury was chronically depressed and suicidal. Yet he came back from the brink. Wilder has also a compelling life story. He gave up football and started boxing at 19, to care for his daughter who is affected by an illness.
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Fast Eddie
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Fury v. Wilder in LA Dec 1st, by Fast Eddie on Dec 1, 2018 17:00:35 GMT 1, So today we see. That's a great thing about boxing. There is a certain finality to it.
So today we see. That's a great thing about boxing. There is a certain finality to it.
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Fury v. Wilder in LA Dec 1st, by Masong on Dec 1, 2018 20:25:26 GMT 1, Really want Fury to win this one. Looks likely to go the distance but would hope for Fury 10-12. Shame itโs on at stupid oโclock in the UK
Really want Fury to win this one. Looks likely to go the distance but would hope for Fury 10-12. Shame itโs on at stupid oโclock in the UK
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Fury v. Wilder in LA Dec 1st, by detail on Dec 2, 2018 7:02:52 GMT 1, Fury should have won that on points even with the two knockdowns - great ref not so great judges - hope there's a rematch.
Fury should have won that on points even with the two knockdowns - great ref not so great judges - hope there's a rematch.
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Fury v. Wilder in LA Dec 1st, by Simococo on Dec 2, 2018 7:09:35 GMT 1, 115-111 for Wilder..... From the British judge..??
115-111 for Wilder..... From the British judge..??
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Fury v. Wilder in LA Dec 1st, by detail on Dec 2, 2018 7:36:59 GMT 1, 115-111 for Wilder..... From the British judge..??
British judge Phil Edwards had it as a draw (113 to 113)
The 115 - 111 for Wilder was from Alejandro Rochin
115-111 for Wilder..... From the British judge..?? British judge Phil Edwards had it as a draw (113 to 113) The 115 - 111 for Wilder was from Alejandro Rochin |
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Fast Eddie
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Fury v. Wilder in LA Dec 1st, by Fast Eddie on Dec 2, 2018 9:02:19 GMT 1, Fury is a master of his craft. But he got knocked down. Twice. So we may need to consider that. Beautiful technique though and Tyson is back now.
Fury is a master of his craft. But he got knocked down. Twice. So we may need to consider that. Beautiful technique though and Tyson is back now.
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Fury v. Wilder in LA Dec 1st, by Simococo on Dec 2, 2018 13:12:51 GMT 1, 115-111 for Wilder..... From the British judge..?? British judge Phil Edwards had it as a draw (113 to 113) The 115 - 111 for Wilder was from Alejandro Rochin
How did Rochin give the first 4 rounds to Wilder?
115-111 for Wilder..... From the British judge..?? British judge Phil Edwards had it as a draw (113 to 113) The 115 - 111 for Wilder was from Alejandro Rochin How did Rochin give the first 4 rounds to Wilder? |
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Carl Cashman
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Fury v. Wilder in LA Dec 1st, by Carl Cashman on Dec 2, 2018 16:44:05 GMT 1, Fury is a master of his craft. But he got knocked down. Twice. So we may need to consider that. Beautiful technique though and Tyson is back now.
Fury will be 10% fitter too, I really hope he wins so that AJ can't dodge that fight due to mandatory challenges.
Fury is a master of his craft. But he got knocked down. Twice. So we may need to consider that. Beautiful technique though and Tyson is back now. I thought the first was a fall, but was surprised he got up from the 2nd !. Wilders whole thing is his knock out punch, he goes into the rematch now knowing his only trick might not work. Fury will be 10% fitter too, I really hope he wins so that AJ can't dodge that fight due to mandatory challenges. |
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Fast Eddie
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Fury v. Wilder in LA Dec 1st, by Fast Eddie on Dec 3, 2018 0:07:11 GMT 1, Fury gave one of the classiest press conferences. Being almost put to sleep by a punch instils a certain sense of reciprocal respect.
Fury gave one of the classiest press conferences. Being almost put to sleep by a punch instils a certain sense of reciprocal respect.
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Carl Cashman
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Fury v. Wilder in LA Dec 1st, by Carl Cashman on Dec 3, 2018 7:45:30 GMT 1, Fury gave one of the classiest press conferences. Being almost put to sleep by a punch instils a certain sense of reciprocal respect.
Fury gave one of the classiest press conferences. Being almost put to sleep by a punch instils a certain sense of reciprocal respect. If be classy too if a rematch wasn't mandatory! |
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Fury v. Wilder in LA Dec 1st, by Larry David on Dec 3, 2018 9:25:36 GMT 1, Fury outboxed Wilder and won, everyone knew it apart from the Mexican judge, he must have been watching another fight. Hope the rematch is in the UK, we never get a decision stateside.
Fury outboxed Wilder and won, everyone knew it apart from the Mexican judge, he must have been watching another fight. Hope the rematch is in the UK, we never get a decision stateside.
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Carl Cashman
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Fury v. Wilder in LA Dec 1st, by Carl Cashman on Dec 3, 2018 10:49:54 GMT 1, Fury outboxed Wilder and won, everyone knew it apart from the Mexican judge, he must have been watching another fight. Hope the rematch is in the UK, we never get a decision stateside.
Fury outboxed Wilder and won, everyone knew it apart from the Mexican judge, he must have been watching another fight. Hope the rematch is in the UK, we never get a decision stateside. Tbh the brit judge scored it a draw too... that's actually the worst bit ! |
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