mmmike
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Window treatments, by mmmike on Nov 26, 2018 0:19:05 GMT 1, Hi all, anyone look into options for direct sunlight protection through window treatments? My apartment has a lot of windows and I'd like to ideally put a clear film that would filter out UV and add translucent blinds. I guess the ultimate would be if there is a way to continue to get the light but filter out any harmful effects of direct sunlight.
Any advice / options would be appreciated.
Hi all, anyone look into options for direct sunlight protection through window treatments? My apartment has a lot of windows and I'd like to ideally put a clear film that would filter out UV and add translucent blinds. I guess the ultimate would be if there is a way to continue to get the light but filter out any harmful effects of direct sunlight.
Any advice / options would be appreciated.
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met
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Window treatments, by met on Dec 21, 2018 1:24:03 GMT 1, Hi all, anyone look into options for direct sunlight protection through window treatments? My apartment has a lot of windows and I'd like to ideally put a clear film that would filter out UV and add translucent blinds. I guess the ultimate would be if there is a way to continue to get the light but filter out any harmful effects of direct sunlight. Any advice / options would be appreciated.
UV radiation is most-often talked about because it is so harmful, especially to works on paper. However, it's important to keep in mind that all light is to some extent damaging — including visible light, whether natural or artificial, direct or indirect.
UV glazing or filters can shield your art from UV rays (the most effective offering up to around 99% protection). But they don't block out visible light, which is also harmful, albeit to a lesser degree.
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Anyone looking to fully protect their art against the damaging effects of light would need to keep it in a sealed box, or a blackened room with no windows or bulbs.
The drawback is that such an environment would prevent the works from actually being seen.
Each art enthusiast therefore needs to find the right balance between two opposing interests: properly experiencing / enjoying their collection on the one hand, and long-term preservation of that collection on the other.
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In your case, my tip would be to liaise (at least in the first instance) with the relevant staff at art museums in Toronto — specifically the museums with large collections of works on paper and photographs. You can also approach high-end galleries, and even libraries that hold rare books and old manuscripts.
It's almost certain that a few specialist employees working at these places will have considered the issue of light damage. They will probably have done extensive research, and much or all of the groundwork already.
If you can track those individuals down, you'll be able to benefit from their own experiences and mistakes. They might be able to give you positive recommendations along with helpful warnings about which paths to avoid.
One advantage of contacting institutions in your own city is the greater likelihood of putting together a hit list that includes local light-protection suppliers and service providers. For peace of mind, dealing with local professionals has clear benefits: easier access, no time-zone differences or language barriers, greater accountability, and better aftercare if any problems should arise.
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Good luck. In due course, I'd be interested to hear which solution(s) you end up going with.
Hi all, anyone look into options for direct sunlight protection through window treatments? My apartment has a lot of windows and I'd like to ideally put a clear film that would filter out UV and add translucent blinds. I guess the ultimate would be if there is a way to continue to get the light but filter out any harmful effects of direct sunlight. Any advice / options would be appreciated. UV radiation is most-often talked about because it is so harmful, especially to works on paper. However, it's important to keep in mind that all light is to some extent damaging — including visible light, whether natural or artificial, direct or indirect. UV glazing or filters can shield your art from UV rays (the most effective offering up to around 99% protection). But they don't block out visible light, which is also harmful, albeit to a lesser degree. __________ Anyone looking to fully protect their art against the damaging effects of light would need to keep it in a sealed box, or a blackened room with no windows or bulbs. The drawback is that such an environment would prevent the works from actually being seen. Each art enthusiast therefore needs to find the right balance between two opposing interests: properly experiencing / enjoying their collection on the one hand, and long-term preservation of that collection on the other. __________ In your case, my tip would be to liaise (at least in the first instance) with the relevant staff at art museums in Toronto — specifically the museums with large collections of works on paper and photographs. You can also approach high-end galleries, and even libraries that hold rare books and old manuscripts. It's almost certain that a few specialist employees working at these places will have considered the issue of light damage. They will probably have done extensive research, and much or all of the groundwork already. If you can track those individuals down, you'll be able to benefit from their own experiences and mistakes. They might be able to give you positive recommendations along with helpful warnings about which paths to avoid. One advantage of contacting institutions in your own city is the greater likelihood of putting together a hit list that includes local light-protection suppliers and service providers. For peace of mind, dealing with local professionals has clear benefits: easier access, no time-zone differences or language barriers, greater accountability, and better aftercare if any problems should arise. __________ Good luck. In due course, I'd be interested to hear which solution(s) you end up going with.
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nighthawk
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Window treatments, by nighthawk on Dec 21, 2018 2:26:45 GMT 1, Hi all, anyone look into options for direct sunlight protection through window treatments? My apartment has a lot of windows and I'd like to ideally put a clear film that would filter out UV and add translucent blinds. I guess the ultimate would be if there is a way to continue to get the light but filter out any harmful effects of direct sunlight. Any advice / options would be appreciated.
Please let me know what you find out! Would love to do something similar at our place...whatever could help!
Hi all, anyone look into options for direct sunlight protection through window treatments? My apartment has a lot of windows and I'd like to ideally put a clear film that would filter out UV and add translucent blinds. I guess the ultimate would be if there is a way to continue to get the light but filter out any harmful effects of direct sunlight. Any advice / options would be appreciated. Please let me know what you find out! Would love to do something similar at our place...whatever could help!
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mmmike
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Window treatments, by mmmike on Dec 21, 2018 2:38:56 GMT 1, Thanks all. I've decided to do some renovations before moving so I've shifted focus to other aspects with the plan to revisit the windows last. I'll keep you updated and please keep the suggestions coming.
Thanks all. I've decided to do some renovations before moving so I've shifted focus to other aspects with the plan to revisit the windows last. I'll keep you updated and please keep the suggestions coming.
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Window treatments, by Charlesworth on Dec 21, 2018 8:07:01 GMT 1, I’m currently planning some house renovations next year & having new windows fitted. After speaking to my friend who is a glazer he suggested that if I have laminated glass that will cut out 80% of UV light so I’m going to go for that.
I’m currently planning some house renovations next year & having new windows fitted. After speaking to my friend who is a glazer he suggested that if I have laminated glass that will cut out 80% of UV light so I’m going to go for that.
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Window treatments, by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 10:34:45 GMT 1, I simply have wooden venetian blinds up at all my windows. When it's sunny (which in the UK is relatively rare) I just adjust the slats so that direct sunlight does not fall directly on to my artworks. It's easily done.
But then again, I don't have any hugely expensive pieces. I guess it all depends on how much your artworks are worth and how much you think it is worth protecting them.
I simply have wooden venetian blinds up at all my windows. When it's sunny (which in the UK is relatively rare) I just adjust the slats so that direct sunlight does not fall directly on to my artworks. It's easily done.
But then again, I don't have any hugely expensive pieces. I guess it all depends on how much your artworks are worth and how much you think it is worth protecting them.
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Window treatments, by quinn on Dec 21, 2018 10:41:03 GMT 1, I’m currently planning some house renovations next year & having new windows fitted. After speaking to my friend who is a glazer he suggested that if I have laminated glass that will cut out 80% of UV light so I’m going to go for that. I’m not a glazier but I personally wouldn’t use or recommend laminate glass for exterior windows. I’ve only ever used for interior doors/windows. Have you ever tried to kick in a window that has laminate glass in it? In the event of a fire i want the chair I’ve just flung at the window to go through it not bounce off it.
I’m currently planning some house renovations next year & having new windows fitted. After speaking to my friend who is a glazer he suggested that if I have laminated glass that will cut out 80% of UV light so I’m going to go for that. I’m not a glazier but I personally wouldn’t use or recommend laminate glass for exterior windows. I’ve only ever used for interior doors/windows. Have you ever tried to kick in a window that has laminate glass in it? In the event of a fire i want the chair I’ve just flung at the window to go through it not bounce off it.
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Window treatments, by irl1 on Dec 21, 2018 11:08:03 GMT 1, I’m currently planning some house renovations next year & having new windows fitted. After speaking to my friend who is a glazer he suggested that if I have laminated glass that will cut out 80% of UV light so I’m going to go for that. I’m not a glazier but I personally wouldn’t use or recommend laminate glass for exterior windows. I’ve only ever used for interior doors/windows. Have you ever tried to kick in a window that has laminate glass in it? In the event of a fire i want the chair I’ve just flung at the window to go through it not bounce off it. Agree with you quinn. You need to have as many escape routes as possible if a fire breaks out. So many of these new windows have small openings with no chance of getting out. Also if you have those child safety locks on you can only open the window a small bit. You should 100% be able to smash the window with one blow if there was a fire.
I’m currently planning some house renovations next year & having new windows fitted. After speaking to my friend who is a glazer he suggested that if I have laminated glass that will cut out 80% of UV light so I’m going to go for that. I’m not a glazier but I personally wouldn’t use or recommend laminate glass for exterior windows. I’ve only ever used for interior doors/windows. Have you ever tried to kick in a window that has laminate glass in it? In the event of a fire i want the chair I’ve just flung at the window to go through it not bounce off it. Agree with you quinn. You need to have as many escape routes as possible if a fire breaks out. So many of these new windows have small openings with no chance of getting out. Also if you have those child safety locks on you can only open the window a small bit. You should 100% be able to smash the window with one blow if there was a fire.
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met
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Window treatments, by met on Dec 21, 2018 17:31:08 GMT 1, Thanks all. I've decided to do some renovations before moving so I've shifted focus to other aspects with the plan to revisit the windows last. I'll keep you updated and please keep the suggestions coming.
Additional points worth looking into:
1. Given you're based in Toronto, presumably you'll be using double-glazing. Note that some of the suggestions you receive might be more suited to single-glazed windows.
2. Query to what extent each available option may impact the sharpness of your windows. In other words, the quality of your view when looking out the windows could in some cases be diminished.
3. Besides variations in financial cost, different glazing and coatings may:
(i) have different expected lifespans;
(ii) attract or repel dirt and dust in dissimilar ways (which can affect the general appearance of your windows and how often they need cleaning);
(iii) require different cleaning products or techniques — with some techniques perhaps being more labour-intensive than others; and/or
(iv) react differently to changes in temperature and humidity, e.g. some may be more prone to aesthetically-displeasing fogging up / condensation.
Thanks all. I've decided to do some renovations before moving so I've shifted focus to other aspects with the plan to revisit the windows last. I'll keep you updated and please keep the suggestions coming. Additional points worth looking into:1. Given you're based in Toronto, presumably you'll be using double-glazing. Note that some of the suggestions you receive might be more suited to single-glazed windows. 2. Query to what extent each available option may impact the sharpness of your windows. In other words, the quality of your view when looking out the windows could in some cases be diminished. 3. Besides variations in financial cost, different glazing and coatings may: (i) have different expected lifespans; (ii) attract or repel dirt and dust in dissimilar ways (which can affect the general appearance of your windows and how often they need cleaning); (iii) require different cleaning products or techniques — with some techniques perhaps being more labour-intensive than others; and/or (iv) react differently to changes in temperature and humidity, e.g. some may be more prone to aesthetically-displeasing fogging up / condensation.
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Window treatments, by Charlesworth on Dec 21, 2018 21:37:20 GMT 1, I’m replacing old wooden sash windows with double glazed vertical sliders (modern sash windows) so they will open up fully, plenty of room to climb out of.
I’m currently planning some house renovations next year & having new windows fitted. After speaking to my friend who is a glazer he suggested that if I have laminated glass that will cut out 80% of UV light so I’m going to go for that. I’m not a glazier but I personally wouldn’t use or recommend laminate glass for exterior windows. I’ve only ever used for interior doors/windows. Have you ever tried to kick in a window that has laminate glass in it? In the event of a fire i want the chair I’ve just flung at the window to go through it not bounce off it.
I’m replacing old wooden sash windows with double glazed vertical sliders (modern sash windows) so they will open up fully, plenty of room to climb out of. I’m currently planning some house renovations next year & having new windows fitted. After speaking to my friend who is a glazer he suggested that if I have laminated glass that will cut out 80% of UV light so I’m going to go for that. I’m not a glazier but I personally wouldn’t use or recommend laminate glass for exterior windows. I’ve only ever used for interior doors/windows. Have you ever tried to kick in a window that has laminate glass in it? In the event of a fire i want the chair I’ve just flung at the window to go through it not bounce off it.
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Window treatments, by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 21:51:16 GMT 1, I’m replacing old wooden sash windows with double glazed vertical sliders (modern sash windows) so they will open up fully, plenty of room to climb out of. I’m not a glazier but I personally wouldn’t use or recommend laminate glass for exterior windows. I’ve only ever used for interior doors/windows. Have you ever tried to kick in a window that has laminate glass in it? In the event of a fire i want the chair I’ve just flung at the window to go through it not bounce off it.
they have bump stops at the top, worth checking the opening, i had some small issues with building control over the actual opening size for the bedrooms, get running horns as well, ooh err. The stick on ones don't look that great. I had some really bloody expensive ones fitted to the front of the house (1200 each) and used some much cheaper ones on the back (300 each) hard to tell the difference.
I’m replacing old wooden sash windows with double glazed vertical sliders (modern sash windows) so they will open up fully, plenty of room to climb out of. I’m not a glazier but I personally wouldn’t use or recommend laminate glass for exterior windows. I’ve only ever used for interior doors/windows. Have you ever tried to kick in a window that has laminate glass in it? In the event of a fire i want the chair I’ve just flung at the window to go through it not bounce off it. they have bump stops at the top, worth checking the opening, i had some small issues with building control over the actual opening size for the bedrooms, get running horns as well, ooh err. The stick on ones don't look that great. I had some really bloody expensive ones fitted to the front of the house (1200 each) and used some much cheaper ones on the back (300 each) hard to tell the difference.
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quinn
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Window treatments, by quinn on Dec 21, 2018 21:55:19 GMT 1, I’m replacing old wooden sash windows with double glazed vertical sliders (modern sash windows) so they will open up fully, plenty of room to climb out of. I’m not a glazier but I personally wouldn’t use or recommend laminate glass for exterior windows. I’ve only ever used for interior doors/windows. Have you ever tried to kick in a window that has laminate glass in it? In the event of a fire i want the chair I’ve just flung at the window to go through it not bounce off it. thats sounds ok but personally I would check fire regulations before you sign off on laminate glass. All it takes is for a key to be missing from the window and your stuck.
I’m replacing old wooden sash windows with double glazed vertical sliders (modern sash windows) so they will open up fully, plenty of room to climb out of. I’m not a glazier but I personally wouldn’t use or recommend laminate glass for exterior windows. I’ve only ever used for interior doors/windows. Have you ever tried to kick in a window that has laminate glass in it? In the event of a fire i want the chair I’ve just flung at the window to go through it not bounce off it. thats sounds ok but personally I would check fire regulations before you sign off on laminate glass. All it takes is for a key to be missing from the window and your stuck.
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Window treatments, by Charlesworth on Dec 22, 2018 9:30:04 GMT 1, The openings of the windows are pretty large so shouldn’t be a problem. Not having running horns or window bars, going for a grey colour/ contemporary look so trying to keep them as plain as possible
I’m replacing old wooden sash windows with double glazed vertical sliders (modern sash windows) so they will open up fully, plenty of room to climb out of. they have bump stops at the top, worth checking the opening, i had some small issues with building control over the actual opening size for the bedrooms, get running horns as well, ooh err. The stick on ones don't look that great. I had some really bloody expensive ones fitted to the front of the house (1200 each) and used some much cheaper ones on the back (300 each) hard to tell the difference.
The openings of the windows are pretty large so shouldn’t be a problem. Not having running horns or window bars, going for a grey colour/ contemporary look so trying to keep them as plain as possible I’m replacing old wooden sash windows with double glazed vertical sliders (modern sash windows) so they will open up fully, plenty of room to climb out of. they have bump stops at the top, worth checking the opening, i had some small issues with building control over the actual opening size for the bedrooms, get running horns as well, ooh err. The stick on ones don't look that great. I had some really bloody expensive ones fitted to the front of the house (1200 each) and used some much cheaper ones on the back (300 each) hard to tell the difference.
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