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Pejac - Love Letter, by tab1 on Dec 17, 2018 3:53:50 GMT 1, ... some thoughts ... ... ยฃ700/ยฃ800 I thought was a high price, but with 470 units sold that is quite a number ... ... with regards to flipabilty ... being a timed release ... all of those that wanted one, surely would have bought one? ... unless of course they 1) had a case of food poisoning and spent the day locked in the toilet with their focus on other things or 2) had been arrested and spent 24hrs in a police cell ... ... the secondary market, I would suggest is therefore fairly small ... at least in the short to medium term ...
As his prices in prints have risen so quickly
A lot of people bought on hype of instant value over cost and comparing to prices of previous prints that have gained in value vastly over cost .
Think some people took a gamble to offload later at a profit, what helped so much in sales was that it was a blind release
I doubt if the edition was shown at the start all would have sold straight away
Still expensive for what it is
... some thoughts ... ... ยฃ700/ยฃ800 I thought was a high price, but with 470 units sold that is quite a number ... ... with regards to flipabilty ... being a timed release ... all of those that wanted one, surely would have bought one? ... unless of course they 1) had a case of food poisoning and spent the day locked in the toilet with their focus on other things or 2) had been arrested and spent 24hrs in a police cell ... ... the secondary market, I would suggest is therefore fairly small ... at least in the short to medium term ... As his prices in prints have risen so quickly A lot of people bought on hype of instant value over cost and comparing to prices of previous prints that have gained in value vastly over cost . Think some people took a gamble to offload later at a profit, what helped so much in sales was that it was a blind release I doubt if the edition was shown at the start all would have sold straight away Still expensive for what it is |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by gd79 on Dec 17, 2018 10:26:25 GMT 1, I presume if anyone feels stung they can just return it. You can always return anything shipped from the EU on receipt, for any reason. You have to wear the shipping costs though
This is a slightly grey area, as this law does not apply to bespoke items, but it does apply to items made to order to a standard specification (which is surely what this is)
I presume if anyone feels stung they can just return it. You can always return anything shipped from the EU on receipt, for any reason. You have to wear the shipping costs though
This is a slightly grey area, as this law does not apply to bespoke items, but it does apply to items made to order to a standard specification (which is surely what this is)
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Pejac - Love Letter, by Express Post on Dec 17, 2018 10:33:34 GMT 1, Yes ladies and gents, the next time your punt ends up being a brick, return them for a full refund minus your shipping costs.
I'm sure the print houses will be very pleased.
I presume if anyone feels stung they can just return it. You can always return anything shipped from the EU on receipt, for any reason. You have to wear the shipping costs though This is a slightly grey area, as this law does not apply to bespoke items, but it does apply to items made to order to a standard specification (which is surely what this is)
Yes ladies and gents, the next time your punt ends up being a brick, return them for a full refund minus your shipping costs. I'm sure the print houses will be very pleased. I presume if anyone feels stung they can just return it. You can always return anything shipped from the EU on receipt, for any reason. You have to wear the shipping costs though This is a slightly grey area, as this law does not apply to bespoke items, but it does apply to items made to order to a standard specification (which is surely what this is) |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by gd79 on Dec 17, 2018 10:40:24 GMT 1, Yes ladies and gents, the next time your punt ends up being a brick, return them for a full refund minus your shipping costs. I'm sure the print houses will be very pleased. I presume if anyone feels stung they can just return it. You can always return anything shipped from the EU on receipt, for any reason. You have to wear the shipping costs though This is a slightly grey area, as this law does not apply to bespoke items, but it does apply to items made to order to a standard specification (which is surely what this is)
Perfectly fair dealing in my view. It's very difficult to get a true sense of how a print looks based on a monitor display. The risk should lie with the seller, not the consumer. They are in the business after all, and get the benefit of minimal bricks and mortar costs by selling remotely.
I have used it once or twice when an image that looked great on the screen has been weak in person. That's my right.
I doubt anyone uses it to jump on every new release with the safety net of returning it if they can't sell it on. The round trip shipping costs are typically too high. It's better than being stuck with something you don't like, but it's hardly a viable business model for the scattergun flipper.
Yes ladies and gents, the next time your punt ends up being a brick, return them for a full refund minus your shipping costs. I'm sure the print houses will be very pleased. I presume if anyone feels stung they can just return it. You can always return anything shipped from the EU on receipt, for any reason. You have to wear the shipping costs though This is a slightly grey area, as this law does not apply to bespoke items, but it does apply to items made to order to a standard specification (which is surely what this is) Perfectly fair dealing in my view. It's very difficult to get a true sense of how a print looks based on a monitor display. The risk should lie with the seller, not the consumer. They are in the business after all, and get the benefit of minimal bricks and mortar costs by selling remotely. I have used it once or twice when an image that looked great on the screen has been weak in person. That's my right. I doubt anyone uses it to jump on every new release with the safety net of returning it if they can't sell it on. The round trip shipping costs are typically too high. It's better than being stuck with something you don't like, but it's hardly a viable business model for the scattergun flipper. |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by juni0209 on Dec 17, 2018 13:58:34 GMT 1, Yes ladies and gents, the next time your punt ends up being a brick, return them for a full refund minus your shipping costs. I'm sure the print houses will be very pleased. Perfectly fair dealing in my view. It's very difficult to get a true sense of how a print looks based on a monitor display. The risk should lie with the seller, not the consumer. They are in the business after all, and get the benefit of minimal bricks and mortar costs by selling remotely. I have used it once or twice when an image that looked great on the screen has been weak in person. That's my right. I doubt anyone uses it to jump on every new release with the safety net of returning it if they can't sell it on. The round trip shipping costs are typically too high. It's better than being stuck with something you don't like, but it's hardly a viable business model for the scattergun flipper.
In the first post it seems that you suggest feeling stung due to the edition number is a fair reason to return the item. Which I think it isnโt. Thats the risk of a open edition.
Yes ladies and gents, the next time your punt ends up being a brick, return them for a full refund minus your shipping costs. I'm sure the print houses will be very pleased. Perfectly fair dealing in my view. It's very difficult to get a true sense of how a print looks based on a monitor display. The risk should lie with the seller, not the consumer. They are in the business after all, and get the benefit of minimal bricks and mortar costs by selling remotely. I have used it once or twice when an image that looked great on the screen has been weak in person. That's my right. I doubt anyone uses it to jump on every new release with the safety net of returning it if they can't sell it on. The round trip shipping costs are typically too high. It's better than being stuck with something you don't like, but it's hardly a viable business model for the scattergun flipper. In the first post it seems that you suggest feeling stung due to the edition number is a fair reason to return the item. Which I think it isnโt. Thats the risk of a open edition. |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by gd79 on Dec 17, 2018 14:58:46 GMT 1, Perfectly fair dealing in my view. It's very difficult to get a true sense of how a print looks based on a monitor display. The risk should lie with the seller, not the consumer. They are in the business after all, and get the benefit of minimal bricks and mortar costs by selling remotely. I have used it once or twice when an image that looked great on the screen has been weak in person. That's my right. I doubt anyone uses it to jump on every new release with the safety net of returning it if they can't sell it on. The round trip shipping costs are typically too high. It's better than being stuck with something you don't like, but it's hardly a viable business model for the scattergun flipper. In the first post it seems that you suggest feeling stung due to the edition number is a fair reason to return the item. Which I think it isnโt. Thats the risk of a open edition.
Sure. Agree. However you don't need a valid reason. You don't have to provide any reason. How people use the law is their business.
Perfectly fair dealing in my view. It's very difficult to get a true sense of how a print looks based on a monitor display. The risk should lie with the seller, not the consumer. They are in the business after all, and get the benefit of minimal bricks and mortar costs by selling remotely. I have used it once or twice when an image that looked great on the screen has been weak in person. That's my right. I doubt anyone uses it to jump on every new release with the safety net of returning it if they can't sell it on. The round trip shipping costs are typically too high. It's better than being stuck with something you don't like, but it's hardly a viable business model for the scattergun flipper. In the first post it seems that you suggest feeling stung due to the edition number is a fair reason to return the item. Which I think it isnโt. Thats the risk of a open edition. Sure. Agree. However you don't need a valid reason. You don't have to provide any reason. How people use the law is their business. |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by cogitobcn on Dec 17, 2018 15:15:50 GMT 1, I presume if anyone feels stung they can just return it. You can always * return anything shipped from the EU on receipt, for any reason. You have to wear the shipping costs though
I presume if anyone feels stung they can just return it. You can always * return anything shipped from the EU on receipt, for any reason. You have to wear the shipping costs though Just a small note on this adverb: this consumer right has an exception on products that it's prices are dependent on fluctuations in the financial market, like precious metals; so if the piece is made of gold or silver, you can not just return it. Still valid for most of the art traded in this forum. |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by gd79 on Dec 17, 2018 15:29:53 GMT 1, I presume if anyone feels stung they can just return it. You can always * return anything shipped from the EU on receipt, for any reason. You have to wear the shipping costs thoughย Just a small note on this adverb: this consumer right has anย exceptionย on products that it's prices are dependent on fluctuations in the financial market, like precious metals; so if the piece is made of gold or silver, you can not just return it. Still valid for most of the art traded in this forum.
Doesn't work on bitcoin 
I presume if anyone feels stung they can just return it. You can always * return anything shipped from the EU on receipt, for any reason. You have to wear the shipping costs thoughย Just a small note on this adverb: this consumer right has anย exceptionย on products that it's prices are dependent on fluctuations in the financial market, like precious metals; so if the piece is made of gold or silver, you can not just return it. Still valid for most of the art traded in this forum. Doesn't work on bitcoin |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by Rouen Cathedral on Dec 17, 2018 15:53:50 GMT 1, Bob has one account despite what the bullshi*ters say.
Never understood the two or more account accusation.
Bob has one account despite what the bullshi*ters say. Never understood the two or more account accusation. |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by sugar72 on Dec 23, 2018 0:11:23 GMT 1, My god what a pile of dribbling shit regards the return of a print. Oh it wont be a flip so ill return it!!!
By the way posterbob speaks a lot of sense!!!
My god what a pile of dribbling shit regards the return of a print. Oh it wont be a flip so ill return it!!!
By the way posterbob speaks a lot of sense!!!
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Pejac - Love Letter, by patrickrob on Jan 1, 2019 16:30:00 GMT 1, Please inbox, I have a spare one to sell thx
Please inbox, I have a spare one to sell thx
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Pejac - Love Letter, by GMA on Jan 1, 2019 16:52:54 GMT 1, Will we get shipping info at all?
Will we get shipping info at all?
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Pejac - Love Letter, by juni0209 on Jan 1, 2019 17:37:25 GMT 1, Will we get shipping info at all?
I didnโt get a shipping confirmation with a forest either. So I guess not
Will we get shipping info at all? I didnโt get a shipping confirmation with a forest either. So I guess not |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by thisisit on Jan 2, 2019 1:53:33 GMT 1, Please inbox, I have a spare one to sell thx
its edition of close to 500
and price of original was close to ยฃ5000
Making the edition of 500 worth aprox 20ยฃ each before shipping and taxes.
I might have done the calculation wrong.
But based this on recent retail price of editions of 100 by Kaws in relation to his originals.
Please inbox, I have a spare one to sell thx are you accepting offers below retail? its edition of close to 500 and price of original was close to ยฃ5000 Making the edition of 500 worth aprox 20ยฃ each before shipping and taxes. I might have done the calculation wrong. But based this on recent retail price of editions of 100 by Kaws in relation to his originals. |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by Chris JL on Jan 2, 2019 1:59:43 GMT 1, Please inbox, I have a spare one to sell thx are you accepting offers below retail? its edition of close to 500 and price of original was close to ยฃ5000 Making the edition of 500 worth aprox 20ยฃ each before shipping and taxes. I might have done the calculation wrong. But based this on recent retail price of editions of 100 by Kaws in relation to his originals.
Thatโs an โoriginalโ calculation ๐ (eg try applying it to Banksyโs GWB...)
But quite interesting nevertheless: it suggests that Kaws has saturated his market with his โmerchandisingโ
Please inbox, I have a spare one to sell thx are you accepting offers below retail? its edition of close to 500 and price of original was close to ยฃ5000 Making the edition of 500 worth aprox 20ยฃ each before shipping and taxes. I might have done the calculation wrong. But based this on recent retail price of editions of 100 by Kaws in relation to his originals. Thatโs an โoriginalโ calculation ๐ (eg try applying it to Banksyโs GWB...) But quite interesting nevertheless: it suggests that Kaws has saturated his market with his โmerchandisingโ |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by Redbirds on Jan 2, 2019 2:14:52 GMT 1, Please inbox, I have a spare one to sell thx are you accepting offers below retail?ย its edition of close to 500 and price of original was close to ยฃ5000 Making the edition of 500 worth aprox 20ยฃ each before shipping and taxes.ย I might have done the calculation wrong. But based this on recent retail price of editions of 100 by Kaws in relation to his originals.ย
Letโs put that calculation with Pejac forest original and total print cost -ya good luck with that remadial math theory of yours
Please inbox, I have a spare one to sell thx are you accepting offers below retail?ย its edition of close to 500 and price of original was close to ยฃ5000 Making the edition of 500 worth aprox 20ยฃ each before shipping and taxes.ย I might have done the calculation wrong. But based this on recent retail price of editions of 100 by Kaws in relation to his originals.ย Letโs put that calculation with Pejac forest original and total print cost -ya good luck with that remadial math theory of yours |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by ARN on Jan 2, 2019 2:52:10 GMT 1, Please inbox, I have a spare one to sell thx are you accepting offers below retail? its edition of close to 500 and price of original was close to ยฃ5000 Making the edition of 500 worth aprox 20ยฃ each before shipping and taxes. I might have done the calculation wrong. But based this on recent retail price of editions of 100 by Kaws in relation to his originals.
You have done the calculation wrong
Please inbox, I have a spare one to sell thx are you accepting offers below retail? its edition of close to 500 and price of original was close to ยฃ5000 Making the edition of 500 worth aprox 20ยฃ each before shipping and taxes. I might have done the calculation wrong. But based this on recent retail price of editions of 100 by Kaws in relation to his originals. You have done the calculation wrong |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 10:51:24 GMT 1, Please inbox, I have a spare one to sell thx are you accepting offers below retail? its edition of close to 500 and price of original was close to ยฃ5000 Making the edition of 500 worth aprox 20ยฃ each before shipping and taxes. I might have done the calculation wrong. But based this on recent retail price of editions of 100 by Kaws in relation to his originals.
Incidentally, 5,000 divided by 500 is obviously not 20. Even I don't need a calculator for that one.
Please inbox, I have a spare one to sell thx are you accepting offers below retail? its edition of close to 500 and price of original was close to ยฃ5000 Making the edition of 500 worth aprox 20ยฃ each before shipping and taxes. I might have done the calculation wrong. But based this on recent retail price of editions of 100 by Kaws in relation to his originals. Hmm. Interesting theory. But the art world never works like that. It's primarily down to supply and demand. Incidentally, 5,000 divided by 500 is obviously not 20. Even I don't need a calculator for that one. |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 21:29:24 GMT 1, First one up on the bay...
First one up on the bay...
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thisisit
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Pejac - Love Letter, by thisisit on Jan 6, 2019 22:07:34 GMT 1, are you accepting offers below retail? its edition of close to 500 and price of original was close to ยฃ5000 Making the edition of 500 worth aprox 20ยฃ each before shipping and taxes. I might have done the calculation wrong. But based this on recent retail price of editions of 100 by Kaws in relation to his originals. Hmm. Interesting theory. But the art world never works like that. It's primarily down to supply and demand. Incidentally, 5,000 divided by 500 is obviously not 20. Even I don't need a calculator for that one.
The work looks more like a 20ยฃ artwork
Thats me giving you 50% upward discount. your welcome
are you accepting offers below retail? its edition of close to 500 and price of original was close to ยฃ5000 Making the edition of 500 worth aprox 20ยฃ each before shipping and taxes. I might have done the calculation wrong. But based this on recent retail price of editions of 100 by Kaws in relation to his originals. Hmm. Interesting theory. But the art world never works like that. It's primarily down to supply and demand. Incidentally, 5,000 divided by 500 is obviously not 20. Even I don't need a calculator for that one. I didn't want to offend anyone with a 10ยฃ price tag. The work looks more like a 20ยฃ artwork Thats me giving you 50% upward discount. your welcome |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by wottagunn on Jan 6, 2019 22:23:32 GMT 1, First one up on the bay...
First one up on the bay... cheap too! |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by ARN on Jan 7, 2019 0:24:08 GMT 1, They havenโt shipped yet have they?
They havenโt shipped yet have they?
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Pejac - Love Letter, by warwolf on Jan 7, 2019 0:32:28 GMT 1, They havenโt shipped yet have they?
Nope, and another for sale on here, these will go for sub ยฃ1k in the short term imo
They havenโt shipped yet have they? Nope, and another for sale on here, these will go for sub ยฃ1k in the short term imo |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by caruso on Jan 7, 2019 7:56:24 GMT 1, The whole love letter fiasco has me totally off Pejac. Am I the only one feeling that way?
The whole love letter fiasco has me totally off Pejac. Am I the only one feeling that way?
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Pejac - Love Letter, by 19818914 on Jan 7, 2019 8:17:05 GMT 1, The whole love letter fiasco has me totally off Pejac. Am I the only one feeling that way?
May I ask what the fiasco was?
The whole love letter fiasco has me totally off Pejac. Am I the only one feeling that way? May I ask what the fiasco was? |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by d.r. perseus on Jan 7, 2019 9:11:10 GMT 1, The whole love letter fiasco has me totally off Pejac. Am I the only one feeling that way?
Lol
The whole love letter fiasco has me totally off Pejac. Am I the only one feeling that way? Lol |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by fac51 on Jan 7, 2019 9:41:45 GMT 1, The whole love letter fiasco has me totally off Pejac. Am I the only one feeling that way? May I ask what the fiasco was?
The whole love letter fiasco has me totally off Pejac. Am I the only one feeling that way? May I ask what the fiasco was? Good to see a new star chaser has filled the gap left by shy |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by 19818914 on Jan 7, 2019 9:56:25 GMT 1, May I ask what the fiasco was? Good to see a new star chaser has filled the gap left by shy
What the fuck are you talking about?
May I ask what the fiasco was? Good to see a new star chaser has filled the gap left by shy What the fuck are you talking about? |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by Dive Jedi on Jan 7, 2019 10:22:55 GMT 1, The whole love letter fiasco has me totally off Pejac. Am I the only one feeling that way? May I ask what the fiasco was?
Only 470 sold for GBP 600 in 24 hours, grossing a total of GBP 282.000
And raising 5K for charity.
Quite embarrasing reallyโฆ. *
(* For kids that can't read good : this is sarcasm)
The whole love letter fiasco has me totally off Pejac. Am I the only one feeling that way? May I ask what the fiasco was? Well, that's rather obvious, isn't it.... Only 470 sold for GBP 600 in 24 hours, grossing a total of GBP 282.000 And raising 5K for charity. Quite embarrasing reallyโฆ. * (* For kids that can't read good : this is sarcasm) |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by londonfx on Jan 7, 2019 10:34:47 GMT 1, Any news on any VIP or AP version?
Any news on any VIP or AP version?
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