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Pejac - Love Letter, by .dappy on Feb 5, 2019 0:04:56 GMT 1, ... who are these 'people'?
'no one on this art discussion forum seems too keen to discuss what looks to be a falling market for the artist.'
... who are these 'people'?
'no one on this art discussion forum seems too keen to discuss what looks to be a falling market for the artist.'
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Pejac - Love Letter, by froncz on Feb 5, 2019 0:07:52 GMT 1, Not this again...
Not this again...
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Pejac - Love Letter, by warwolf on Feb 5, 2019 0:09:23 GMT 1, ... who are these 'people'? 'no one on this art discussion forum seems too keen to discuss what looks to be a falling market for the artist.'
Those who are selling their prints
... who are these 'people'? 'no one on this art discussion forum seems too keen to discuss what looks to be a falling market for the artist.' Those who are selling their prints |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by .dappy on Feb 5, 2019 0:16:15 GMT 1, ... why wouldn't they be happy, if they are cashing in?
... that would make them happy ... they have decided that it is time to sell and take a profit ... happy days ... in fact ...
... amazed how so few pejac envelopes were sold, if sooooo many people are in fact selling ... ๐ถ
... why wouldn't they be happy, if they are cashing in?
... that would make them happy ... they have decided that it is time to sell and take a profit ... happy days ... in fact ...
... amazed how so few pejac envelopes were sold, if sooooo many people are in fact selling ... ๐ถ
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Pejac - Love Letter, by warwolf on Feb 5, 2019 0:37:36 GMT 1, Sorry, lost the context there, the point I was trying to make is with so much interest in the artist, I'm just surprised there my seems to be little appetite for a discussion as to why his market has appeared to have softened over the last few months.
Sorry, lost the context there, the point I was trying to make is with so much interest in the artist, I'm just surprised there my seems to be little appetite for a discussion as to why his market has appeared to have softened over the last few months.
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Pejac - Love Letter, by touchdowntodd on Feb 5, 2019 0:48:25 GMT 1, ... why wouldn't they be happy, if they are cashing in? ... that would make them happy ... they have decided that it is time to sell and take a profit ... happy days ... in fact ... ... amazed how so few pejac envelopes were sold, if sooooo many people are in fact selling ... ๐ถ
Tons of guys here bought in on secondary at 3-5k thinking they'd be 10k prints by next year
Won't happen
... why wouldn't they be happy, if they are cashing in? ... that would make them happy ... they have decided that it is time to sell and take a profit ... happy days ... in fact ... ... amazed how so few pejac envelopes were sold, if sooooo many people are in fact selling ... ๐ถ Tons of guys here bought in on secondary at 3-5k thinking they'd be 10k prints by next year Won't happen |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by .dappy on Feb 5, 2019 1:02:45 GMT 1, ... literally hundreds of people bought the envelope ...
... with regards to the market ... elasticity of supply and demand ...
... literally hundreds of people bought the envelope ...
... with regards to the market ... elasticity of supply and demand ...
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Pejac - Love Letter, by Express Post on Feb 5, 2019 1:02:58 GMT 1, They are hoping that the NYC show will take prices to the moon.
... why wouldn't they be happy, if they are cashing in? ... that would make them happy ... they have decided that it is time to sell and take a profit ... happy days ... in fact ... ... amazed how so few pejac envelopes were sold, if sooooo many people are in fact selling ... ๐ถ Tons of guys here bought in on secondary at 3-5k thinking they'd be 10k prints by next year Won't happen
They are hoping that the NYC show will take prices to the moon. ... why wouldn't they be happy, if they are cashing in? ... that would make them happy ... they have decided that it is time to sell and take a profit ... happy days ... in fact ... ... amazed how so few pejac envelopes were sold, if sooooo many people are in fact selling ... ๐ถ Tons of guys here bought in on secondary at 3-5k thinking they'd be 10k prints by next year Won't happen |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by d.r. perseus on Feb 5, 2019 1:04:21 GMT 1, Sorry, lost the context there, the point I was trying to make is with so much interest in the artist, I'm just surprised there my seems to be little appetite for a discussion as to why his market has appeared to have softened over the last few months.
Save your 5k and add to it and try and get an OG in coming show or chase the attainable.
Sorry, lost the context there, the point I was trying to make is with so much interest in the artist, I'm just surprised there my seems to be little appetite for a discussion as to why his market has appeared to have softened over the last few months. Save your 5k and add to it and try and get an OG in coming show or chase the attainable. |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by d.r. perseus on Feb 5, 2019 1:38:04 GMT 1, Honestly and someone else probably keeps better track outside of immediate flips everything seems a little static
Honestly and someone else probably keeps better track outside of immediate flips everything seems a little static
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Pejac - Love Letter, by NYart on Feb 5, 2019 1:43:54 GMT 1, Will be interesting how he .. I guess I should say Max .. prices his pieces for the NY show. If itโs another significant jump, I can see the market quickly going the way of Micallef .
Will be interesting how he .. I guess I should say Max .. prices his pieces for the NY show. If itโs another significant jump, I can see the market quickly going the way of Micallef .
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Pejac - Love Letter, by touchdowntodd on Feb 5, 2019 1:50:34 GMT 1, They are hoping that the NYC show will take prices to the moon. Tons of guys here bought in on secondary at 3-5k thinking they'd be 10k prints by next year Won't happen
unfortunately for them won't happen... He's gonna need multiple shows in the US to gain traction here. Dropped a beautiful street piece that got basically 0 attention, very little action on prints on our sales forums/eBay/etc..
Bottom line is imho management is hurting him with the "help my VIPs" stuff. Need to not presell anything and build a following. Prices are also already insane for originals imho. Look great, but he's just plain not worth those prices. And if we're honest print prices haven't moved barely at all in a year or two
Like stated before... Another Micaleff situation. The bubble is boiling
They are hoping that the NYC show will take prices to the moon. Tons of guys here bought in on secondary at 3-5k thinking they'd be 10k prints by next year Won't happen unfortunately for them won't happen... He's gonna need multiple shows in the US to gain traction here. Dropped a beautiful street piece that got basically 0 attention, very little action on prints on our sales forums/eBay/etc.. Bottom line is imho management is hurting him with the "help my VIPs" stuff. Need to not presell anything and build a following. Prices are also already insane for originals imho. Look great, but he's just plain not worth those prices. And if we're honest print prices haven't moved barely at all in a year or two Like stated before... Another Micaleff situation. The bubble is boiling |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by Express Post on Feb 5, 2019 2:46:38 GMT 1, Be careful, the disciples are reading and plotting.
They are hoping that the NYC show will take prices to the moon. unfortunately for them won't happen... He's gonna need multiple shows in the US to gain traction here. Dropped a beautiful street piece that got basically 0 attention, very little action on prints on our sales forums/eBay/etc.. Bottom line is imho management is hurting him with the "help my VIPs" stuff. Need to not presell anything and build a following. Prices are also already insane for originals imho. Look great, but he's just plain not worth those prices. And if we're honest print prices haven't moved barely at all in a year or two Like stated before... Another Micaleff situation. The bubble is boiling
Be careful, the disciples are reading and plotting. They are hoping that the NYC show will take prices to the moon. unfortunately for them won't happen... He's gonna need multiple shows in the US to gain traction here. Dropped a beautiful street piece that got basically 0 attention, very little action on prints on our sales forums/eBay/etc.. Bottom line is imho management is hurting him with the "help my VIPs" stuff. Need to not presell anything and build a following. Prices are also already insane for originals imho. Look great, but he's just plain not worth those prices. And if we're honest print prices haven't moved barely at all in a year or two Like stated before... Another Micaleff situation. The bubble is boiling |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by wottagunn on Feb 5, 2019 2:48:49 GMT 1, It generally happens after open/timed editions as most people were able to get the hands on some of the artists work.
If it were a normal limited run people would be chasing them down id imagine.
Happens with all artists.
Who knows. I see them holding or going back up upon the announcement of his show, or a new print etc, but I don't care what happens really.
I do honestly think though that his original pricing is a tad on the high side, and I would like to see more sales to those not in the VIP group. But again, it's not the end of the world.
It generally happens after open/timed editions as most people were able to get the hands on some of the artists work.
If it were a normal limited run people would be chasing them down id imagine.
Happens with all artists.
Who knows. I see them holding or going back up upon the announcement of his show, or a new print etc, but I don't care what happens really.
I do honestly think though that his original pricing is a tad on the high side, and I would like to see more sales to those not in the VIP group. But again, it's not the end of the world.
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Pejac - Love Letter, by aumi on Feb 5, 2019 14:59:47 GMT 1, Did anybody else received the artwork in poor packaging? The wooden box is already damaged.
Did anybody else received the artwork in poor packaging? The wooden box is already damaged.
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Pejac - Love Letter, by Fะฏ on Feb 5, 2019 15:03:19 GMT 1, Did anybody else received the artwork in poor packaging? The wooden box is already damaged.
Did you buy it for the box or the letter? Thats like saying the jiffy bag is torn, i don't want it.
Did anybody else received the artwork in poor packaging? The wooden box is already damaged. Did you buy it for the box or the letter? Thats like saying the jiffy bag is torn, i don't want it. |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by aumi on Feb 5, 2019 15:10:46 GMT 1, Did anybody else received the artwork in poor packaging? The wooden box is already damaged. Did you buy it for the box or the letter? Thats like saying the jiffy bag is torn, i don't want it.
I am pretty sure you have seen the video. Everything is done with perfection. There are elements on the box as well like the edition size. I'd rather have a product in pristine condition when I buy it directly from the one who produced it.
Did anybody else received the artwork in poor packaging? The wooden box is already damaged. Did you buy it for the box or the letter? Thats like saying the jiffy bag is torn, i don't want it. I am pretty sure you have seen the video. Everything is done with perfection. There are elements on the box as well like the edition size. I'd rather have a product in pristine condition when I buy it directly from the one who produced it. |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by Carl Cashman on Feb 5, 2019 15:11:53 GMT 1, Did anybody else received the artwork in poor packaging? The wooden box is already damaged. Did you buy it for the box or the letter? Thats like saying the jiffy bag is torn, i don't want it.
Never seen an Artist post shots of jiffy bags being customised
Did anybody else received the artwork in poor packaging? The wooden box is already damaged. Did you buy it for the box or the letter? Thats like saying the jiffy bag is torn, i don't want it. If the finishing was added to the boxes and promoted before the sales were complete then it's not quite the same is it? Never seen an Artist post shots of jiffy bags being customised |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by kuni on Feb 5, 2019 15:22:32 GMT 1, The artist knew full well that the box would be roughed up in transit, and perhaps intended for it to arrive in less than pristine condition with wounds and bruises. Otherwise he would have just thrown another cardboard box around it. To truly love, one must accept imperfection...
...or maybe he just didn't want to spring for an extra layer of packaging.
The artist knew full well that the box would be roughed up in transit, and perhaps intended for it to arrive in less than pristine condition with wounds and bruises. Otherwise he would have just thrown another cardboard box around it. To truly love, one must accept imperfection...
...or maybe he just didn't want to spring for an extra layer of packaging.
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Pejac - Love Letter, by pada1 on Feb 5, 2019 15:24:08 GMT 1, The box is definitely a keeper and not a traceable packaging. Wasn't it well packed with foam like Desprestigio?
On the original pricing topic, he sold out his previous exhibition almost instantly, so I guess they were doing ok. It's probably a big part of his base collectors, but that's a good starting point.
I don't remember in which post it was mentioned, but their current strategy is to go slow. Maybe we will see a turning point in 2019.
The box is definitely a keeper and not a traceable packaging. Wasn't it well packed with foam like Desprestigio?
On the original pricing topic, he sold out his previous exhibition almost instantly, so I guess they were doing ok. It's probably a big part of his base collectors, but that's a good starting point.
I don't remember in which post it was mentioned, but their current strategy is to go slow. Maybe we will see a turning point in 2019.
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Pejac - Love Letter, by aumi on Feb 5, 2019 15:26:00 GMT 1, The box is definitely a keeper and not a traceable packaging. Wasn't it well packed with foam like Desprestigio? On the original pricing topic, he sold out his previous exhibition almost instantly, so I guess they were doing ok. It's probably a big part of his base collectors, but that's a good starting point. I don't remember in which post it was mentioned, but their current strategy is to go slow. Maybe we will see a turning point in 2019.
It was just wrapped in one layer of bubble wrap.
The box is definitely a keeper and not a traceable packaging. Wasn't it well packed with foam like Desprestigio? On the original pricing topic, he sold out his previous exhibition almost instantly, so I guess they were doing ok. It's probably a big part of his base collectors, but that's a good starting point. I don't remember in which post it was mentioned, but their current strategy is to go slow. Maybe we will see a turning point in 2019. It was just wrapped in one layer of bubble wrap. |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by pada1 on Feb 5, 2019 15:28:56 GMT 1, seems a bit light packaging... however it's an open edition, so I guess not the same attention was put in the shipping preparation.
Probably good to reach them and ask what they can do about it.
seems a bit light packaging... however it's an open edition, so I guess not the same attention was put in the shipping preparation.
Probably good to reach them and ask what they can do about it.
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Pejac - Love Letter, by nobokov on Feb 5, 2019 15:51:42 GMT 1, Did you buy it for the box or the letter? Thats like saying the jiffy bag is torn, i don't want it. If the finishing was added to the boxes and promoted before the sales were complete then it's not quite the same is it? Never seen an Artist post shots of jiffy bags being customised 
Did you buy it for the box or the letter? Thats like saying the jiffy bag is torn, i don't want it. If the finishing was added to the boxes and promoted before the sales were complete then it's not quite the same is it? Never seen an Artist post shots of jiffy bags being customised I guess you never followed Orville Redenbacher |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by Yabadabdo on Feb 5, 2019 16:17:18 GMT 1, I wasn't going to order it, but when I saw what he was doing with the boxes, I really liked it and decided it tipped the balance for me and went ahead. So if mine turns up trashed I'll be gutted.
I wasn't going to order it, but when I saw what he was doing with the boxes, I really liked it and decided it tipped the balance for me and went ahead. So if mine turns up trashed I'll be gutted.
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Pejac - Love Letter, by aumi on Feb 5, 2019 16:29:43 GMT 1, I wasn't going to order it, but when I saw what he was doing with the boxes, I really liked it and decided it tipped the balance for me and went ahead. So if mine turns up trashed I'll be gutted.
Apparently they don't replace any damage to the box.
I wasn't going to order it, but when I saw what he was doing with the boxes, I really liked it and decided it tipped the balance for me and went ahead. So if mine turns up trashed I'll be gutted. Apparently they don't replace any damage to the box. |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by Art! on Feb 5, 2019 16:32:47 GMT 1, I wasn't going to order it, but when I saw what he was doing with the boxes, I really liked it and decided it tipped the balance for me and went ahead. So if mine turns up trashed I'll be gutted. Apparently they don't replace any damage to the box.
I wasn't going to order it, but when I saw what he was doing with the boxes, I really liked it and decided it tipped the balance for me and went ahead. So if mine turns up trashed I'll be gutted. Apparently they don't replace any damage to the box. Any pics you could share? |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by Riotcops on Feb 5, 2019 16:40:44 GMT 1, Edition of 470
Time-limited edition features:
Custom made envelope from Paper Arches 250 gr
26 x 16 cm (10,23 x 6,3 inch)
Signed and numbered by the artist
Photopolymer hand-pulled print (main image)
Digital print (airmail envelope markings)
Custom made postal stamps
Custom made AirMail stickers
Custom made rubber stamp imprint
Included in the package:
Signed and numbered envelope print/sculpture
Background mount board with 2 magnetic spacers/holders
Handling cotton gloves
Certificate of Authenticity
Packing: Wooden slide box with custom-made foam spacers
You are essentially asking them to replace the shipping container? You bought an envelope - did it arrive?
Edition of 470
Time-limited edition features:
Custom made envelope from Paper Arches 250 gr
26 x 16 cm (10,23 x 6,3 inch)
Signed and numbered by the artist
Photopolymer hand-pulled print (main image)
Digital print (airmail envelope markings)
Custom made postal stamps
Custom made AirMail stickers
Custom made rubber stamp imprint
Included in the package:
Signed and numbered envelope print/sculpture
Background mount board with 2 magnetic spacers/holders
Handling cotton gloves
Certificate of Authenticity
Packing: Wooden slide box with custom-made foam spacers
You are essentially asking them to replace the shipping container? You bought an envelope - did it arrive?
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Pejac - Love Letter, by Inknart on Feb 5, 2019 17:04:02 GMT 1, Edition of 470 Time-limited edition features: Custom made envelope from Paper Arches 250 gr 26 x 16 cm (10,23 x 6,3 inch) Signed and numbered by the artist Photopolymer hand-pulled print (main image) Digital print (airmail envelope markings) Custom made postal stamps Custom made AirMail stickers Custom made rubber stamp imprint Included in the package: Signed and numbered envelope print/sculpture Background mount board with 2 magnetic spacers/holders Handling cotton gloves Certificate of Authenticity Packing: Wooden slide box with custom-made foam spacersYou are essentially asking them to replace the shipping container? You bought an envelope - did it arrive?
Edition of 470 Time-limited edition features: Custom made envelope from Paper Arches 250 gr 26 x 16 cm (10,23 x 6,3 inch) Signed and numbered by the artist Photopolymer hand-pulled print (main image) Digital print (airmail envelope markings) Custom made postal stamps Custom made AirMail stickers Custom made rubber stamp imprint Included in the package: Signed and numbered envelope print/sculpture Background mount board with 2 magnetic spacers/holders Handling cotton gloves Certificate of Authenticity Packing: Wooden slide box with custom-made foam spacersYou are essentially asking them to replace the shipping container? You bought an envelope - did it arrive? Some people probably bought it for the HF Crate element. He literally used this as bait to entice more buyers. Some may have even bought specifically for the crate and not the envelope. I think it is a legitimate gripe. If it was an "Extra" he had added after the timed release, maybe it wouldn't be a legitimate complaint, but he used this as a sales tactic. |
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Pejac - Love Letter, by nobokov on Feb 5, 2019 17:16:39 GMT 1, The lack of pictures shared on here seems to say that all the Pejaculations are about something other than the art.
The lack of pictures shared on here seems to say that all the Pejaculations are about something other than the art.
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Pejac - Love Letter, by Riotcops on Feb 5, 2019 17:19:29 GMT 1, Edition of 470 Time-limited edition features: Custom made envelope from Paper Arches 250 gr 26 x 16 cm (10,23 x 6,3 inch) Signed and numbered by the artist Photopolymer hand-pulled print (main image) Digital print (airmail envelope markings) Custom made postal stamps Custom made AirMail stickers Custom made rubber stamp imprint Included in the package: Signed and numbered envelope print/sculpture Background mount board with 2 magnetic spacers/holders Handling cotton gloves Certificate of Authenticity Packing: Wooden slide box with custom-made foam spacersYou are essentially asking them to replace the shipping container? You bought an envelope - did it arrive? Some people probably bought it for the HF Crate element. He literally used this as bait to entice more buyers. Some may have even bought specifically for the crate and not the envelope. I think it is a legitimate gripe. If it was an "Extra" he had added after the timed release, maybe it wouldn't be a legitimate complaint, but he used this as a sales tactic.
Edition of 470 Time-limited edition features: Custom made envelope from Paper Arches 250 gr 26 x 16 cm (10,23 x 6,3 inch) Signed and numbered by the artist Photopolymer hand-pulled print (main image) Digital print (airmail envelope markings) Custom made postal stamps Custom made AirMail stickers Custom made rubber stamp imprint Included in the package: Signed and numbered envelope print/sculpture Background mount board with 2 magnetic spacers/holders Handling cotton gloves Certificate of Authenticity Packing: Wooden slide box with custom-made foam spacersYou are essentially asking them to replace the shipping container? You bought an envelope - did it arrive? Some people probably bought it for the HF Crate element. He literally used this as bait to entice more buyers. Some may have even bought specifically for the crate and not the envelope. I think it is a legitimate gripe. If it was an "Extra" he had added after the timed release, maybe it wouldn't be a legitimate complaint, but he used this as a sales tactic. I hear ya, I just don't see how it could have been viewed as anything other than an 'extra'. He didn't post about it until the last few hours of the sale. But I also posted saying I didn't think anyone (who wasn't already purchasing) would be enticed to buy because of a bird stencil. Guess, I was wrong. Of course it'd be ideal if it arrived in perfect condition but I don't think its a legitimate argument to not receiving what you purchased. |
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