Maxi Minus
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by Maxi Minus on Jan 24, 2019 19:26:26 GMT 1, that was quick
that was quick
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dbrizzle
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July 2017
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by dbrizzle on Jan 24, 2019 19:26:38 GMT 1, This was funny the first time. Now your boring us with your cliches.
This was funny the first time. Now your boring us with your cliches.
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dwight
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by dwight on Jan 24, 2019 19:30:09 GMT 1, I'll take three of them...(you've got a multiple of them right?)
I'll take three of them...(you've got a multiple of them right?)
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cnrdvln
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by cnrdvln on Jan 24, 2019 19:55:06 GMT 1, Was waiting for this, brilliant
Was waiting for this, brilliant
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Inknart
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by Inknart on Jan 24, 2019 20:03:29 GMT 1, If someone has bought off this seller and has received there items, they should take his address and name and throw it to avante. Plenty of time to cancel his order as they ship in 4 weeks.
If someone has bought off this seller and has received there items, they should take his address and name and throw it to avante. Plenty of time to cancel his order as they ship in 4 weeks.
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bbperez1
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by bbperez1 on Jan 24, 2019 20:25:02 GMT 1, If someone has bought off this seller and has received there items, they should take his address and name and throw it to avante. Plenty of time to cancel his order as they ship in 4 weeks.
That’s a bit vindictive. I don’t understand why anyone cares what this guy does or does not do. Why go out of your way just to hurt someone else’s pockets.
If someone has bought off this seller and has received there items, they should take his address and name and throw it to avante. Plenty of time to cancel his order as they ship in 4 weeks. That’s a bit vindictive. I don’t understand why anyone cares what this guy does or does not do. Why go out of your way just to hurt someone else’s pockets. |
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by Coach on Jan 24, 2019 20:26:58 GMT 1, I’ll be interested to see if any established member confirms that they have bought from this seller.
I’ll be interested to see if any established member confirms that they have bought from this seller.
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Inknart
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by Inknart on Jan 24, 2019 20:34:30 GMT 1, If someone has bought off this seller and has received there items, they should take his address and name and throw it to avante. Plenty of time to cancel his order as they ship in 4 weeks. That’s a bit vindictive. I don’t understand why anyone cares what this guy does or does not do. Why go out of your way just to hurt someone else’s pockets.
If someone has bought off this seller and has received there items, they should take his address and name and throw it to avante. Plenty of time to cancel his order as they ship in 4 weeks. That’s a bit vindictive. I don’t understand why anyone cares what this guy does or does not do. Why go out of your way just to hurt someone else’s pockets. There is selling and flipping and then there is mocking an entire community. There is a difference. That is why, imo. |
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bbperez1
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by bbperez1 on Jan 24, 2019 20:49:55 GMT 1, That’s a bit vindictive. I don’t understand why anyone cares what this guy does or does not do. Why go out of your way just to hurt someone else’s pockets. There is selling and flipping and then there is mocking an entire community. There is a difference. That is why, imo.
I agree and disagree with you on your points. Both of which are valid. Selling vs. flipping.
The main difference I think this forum has agreed upon in differentiating these two is the amount of time since release but that’s not exactly a proven science either. I.e. banksy soup can posters. I’m bias and will be called out for this but I think flippers help the art ecosystem. Everyone gets more exposure and Everyone makes money. The only person who really misses out are certain collectors and newbies who don’t understand how to procure or have a relationship with publishers. It’s a learning curve. Now, the collectors who miss out are the losers here and are “forced” to overpay by double typically. But you can’t have everything. And not everyone will be happy. Supply and demand are king in these situations.
Now, Mocking the forum.. well its tit for tat. The forum can sure dish out the hate and malice but can’t take a joke from this guy? Obviously, we all know it’s banter and shite talking. But! It’s mildly entertaining. The first few times the stories made me laugh. But yes, I agree it’s tiresome and has run it’s course.
Either way.. to go out of my way or for anyone to go out of their way to financially hurt someone just because you don’t agree with them is definitely a bitch move. Now, you’re taking the initial step of taking this “issue” from the forum to the real world.
That’s a bit vindictive. I don’t understand why anyone cares what this guy does or does not do. Why go out of your way just to hurt someone else’s pockets. There is selling and flipping and then there is mocking an entire community. There is a difference. That is why, imo. I agree and disagree with you on your points. Both of which are valid. Selling vs. flipping. The main difference I think this forum has agreed upon in differentiating these two is the amount of time since release but that’s not exactly a proven science either. I.e. banksy soup can posters. I’m bias and will be called out for this but I think flippers help the art ecosystem. Everyone gets more exposure and Everyone makes money. The only person who really misses out are certain collectors and newbies who don’t understand how to procure or have a relationship with publishers. It’s a learning curve. Now, the collectors who miss out are the losers here and are “forced” to overpay by double typically. But you can’t have everything. And not everyone will be happy. Supply and demand are king in these situations. Now, Mocking the forum.. well its tit for tat. The forum can sure dish out the hate and malice but can’t take a joke from this guy? Obviously, we all know it’s banter and shite talking. But! It’s mildly entertaining. The first few times the stories made me laugh. But yes, I agree it’s tiresome and has run it’s course. Either way.. to go out of my way or for anyone to go out of their way to financially hurt someone just because you don’t agree with them is definitely a bitch move. Now, you’re taking the initial step of taking this “issue” from the forum to the real world. |
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Patrick 01
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by Patrick 01 on Jan 24, 2019 21:14:38 GMT 1, The very same idiot that was giving me grief a few days ago wrongly accusing me of being a dealer!
The very same idiot that was giving me grief a few days ago wrongly accusing me of being a dealer!
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bbperez1
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by bbperez1 on Jan 24, 2019 21:15:44 GMT 1, The very same idiot that was giving me grief a few days ago wrongly accusing me of being a dealer!
You should clarify which “idiot” you’re referring to..
The very same idiot that was giving me grief a few days ago wrongly accusing me of being a dealer! You should clarify which “idiot” you’re referring to.. |
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Patrick 01
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by Patrick 01 on Jan 24, 2019 21:22:39 GMT 1, Lol..I was referring to ‘wimpyboy’
Lol..I was referring to ‘wimpyboy’
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jbelleit
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April 2017
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by jbelleit on Jan 24, 2019 22:19:06 GMT 1, There is selling and flipping and then there is mocking an entire community. There is a difference. That is why, imo. I agree and disagree with you on your points. Both of which are valid. Selling vs. flipping. The main difference I think this forum has agreed upon in differentiating these two is the amount of time since release but that’s not exactly a proven science either. I.e. banksy soup can posters. I’m bias and will be called out for this but I think flippers help the art ecosystem. Everyone gets more exposure and Everyone makes money. The only person who really misses out are certain collectors and newbies who don’t understand how to procure or have a relationship with publishers. It’s a learning curve. Now, the collectors who miss out are the losers here and are “forced” to overpay by double typically. But you can’t have everything. And not everyone will be happy. Supply and demand are king in these situations. Now, Mocking the forum.. well its tit for tat. The forum can sure dish out the hate and malice but can’t take a joke from this guy? Obviously, we all know it’s banter ands**te talking. But! It’s mildly entertaining. The first few times the stories made me laugh. But yes, I agree it’s tiresome and has run it’s course. Either way.. to go out of my way or for anyone to go out of their way to financially hurt someone just because you don’t agree with them is definitely a b**chmove. Now, you’re taking the initial step of taking this “issue” from the forum to the real world.
I am curious why you would defend someone who hasn't actually contributed anything to this entire board in all 62 of their posts except to be a troll and also offers pieces that most cannot get from source for over twice what they cost?
I hope you never have a piece that you really want only to find a ton of them on the 'bay for wayyyy more than they originally cost. I can tell you it sucks balls. And then for this troll to stir up the pot and for you to defend...he deserves to have the print rescinded. I see time and again others say that the artist should be the one making the money. And I have seen on the Paul Insect new print thread that his prices have gone way up b/c everyone else is making money off his prints except himself. I blame wimpyboya$$hat and others like him.
There is selling and flipping and then there is mocking an entire community. There is a difference. That is why, imo. I agree and disagree with you on your points. Both of which are valid. Selling vs. flipping. The main difference I think this forum has agreed upon in differentiating these two is the amount of time since release but that’s not exactly a proven science either. I.e. banksy soup can posters. I’m bias and will be called out for this but I think flippers help the art ecosystem. Everyone gets more exposure and Everyone makes money. The only person who really misses out are certain collectors and newbies who don’t understand how to procure or have a relationship with publishers. It’s a learning curve. Now, the collectors who miss out are the losers here and are “forced” to overpay by double typically. But you can’t have everything. And not everyone will be happy. Supply and demand are king in these situations. Now, Mocking the forum.. well its tit for tat. The forum can sure dish out the hate and malice but can’t take a joke from this guy? Obviously, we all know it’s banter ands**te talking. But! It’s mildly entertaining. The first few times the stories made me laugh. But yes, I agree it’s tiresome and has run it’s course. Either way.. to go out of my way or for anyone to go out of their way to financially hurt someone just because you don’t agree with them is definitely a b**chmove. Now, you’re taking the initial step of taking this “issue” from the forum to the real world. I am curious why you would defend someone who hasn't actually contributed anything to this entire board in all 62 of their posts except to be a troll and also offers pieces that most cannot get from source for over twice what they cost? I hope you never have a piece that you really want only to find a ton of them on the 'bay for wayyyy more than they originally cost. I can tell you it sucks balls. And then for this troll to stir up the pot and for you to defend...he deserves to have the print rescinded. I see time and again others say that the artist should be the one making the money. And I have seen on the Paul Insect new print thread that his prices have gone way up b/c everyone else is making money off his prints except himself. I blame wimpyboya$$hat and others like him. |
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bbperez1
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April 2017
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by bbperez1 on Jan 24, 2019 22:32:02 GMT 1, I agree and disagree with you on your points. Both of which are valid. Selling vs. flipping. The main difference I think this forum has agreed upon in differentiating these two is the amount of time since release but that’s not exactly a proven science either. I.e. banksy soup can posters. I’m bias and will be called out for this but I think flippers help the art ecosystem. Everyone gets more exposure and Everyone makes money. The only person who really misses out are certain collectors and newbies who don’t understand how to procure or have a relationship with publishers. It’s a learning curve. Now, the collectors who miss out are the losers here and are “forced” to overpay by double typically. But you can’t have everything. And not everyone will be happy. Supply and demand are king in these situations. Now, Mocking the forum.. well its tit for tat. The forum can sure dish out the hate and malice but can’t take a joke from this guy? Obviously, we all know it’s banter ands**te talking. But! It’s mildly entertaining. The first few times the stories made me laugh. But yes, I agree it’s tiresome and has run it’s course. Either way.. to go out of my way or for anyone to go out of their way to financially hurt someone just because you don’t agree with them is definitely a b**chmove. Now, you’re taking the initial step of taking this “issue” from the forum to the real world. I am curious why you would defend someone who hasn't actually contributed anything to this entire board in all 62 of their posts except to be a troll and also offers pieces that most cannot get from source for over twice what they cost? I hope you never have a piece that you really want only to find a ton of them on the 'bay for wayyyy more than they originally cost. I can tell you it sucks balls. And then for this troll to stir up the pot and for you to defend...he deserves to have the print rescinded. I see time and again others say that the artist should be the one making the money. And I have seen on the Paul Insect new print thread that his prices have gone way up b/c everyone else is making money off his prints except himself. I blame wimpyboya$$hat and others like him.
First and foremost, I want to make clear I am not defending that guy.. I don’t know him nor do I care what’s going on.. but, I did make an observation and inserted my opinion.
It does suck. As I stated the collectors who miss out are the victims here but.. If said “collector” was a true collector and interacted with the artists and followed them.. they wouldn’t get left out. They’d find a way. I didn’t go to OTI but managed to get the prints for slightly above retail. I didn’t go to Basel but I got a kaws set for retail.. it’s all about interacting and following artists.
Price wise. The artist is making money. Price increases are due to supply and demand. They’re increasing the prices to squeeze out the resellers and to recoup those monies left on the table. And that’s great too. It’s an ecosystem that depends on sellers. Resellers and buyers to continue the justification is price increases.
It’s like any ecosystem you need both to survive and grow.. but like I said I’m bias and really don’t give af what this guy does. Just thought it was vindictive to call for others to “out” this guy to Avante.
I agree and disagree with you on your points. Both of which are valid. Selling vs. flipping. The main difference I think this forum has agreed upon in differentiating these two is the amount of time since release but that’s not exactly a proven science either. I.e. banksy soup can posters. I’m bias and will be called out for this but I think flippers help the art ecosystem. Everyone gets more exposure and Everyone makes money. The only person who really misses out are certain collectors and newbies who don’t understand how to procure or have a relationship with publishers. It’s a learning curve. Now, the collectors who miss out are the losers here and are “forced” to overpay by double typically. But you can’t have everything. And not everyone will be happy. Supply and demand are king in these situations. Now, Mocking the forum.. well its tit for tat. The forum can sure dish out the hate and malice but can’t take a joke from this guy? Obviously, we all know it’s banter ands**te talking. But! It’s mildly entertaining. The first few times the stories made me laugh. But yes, I agree it’s tiresome and has run it’s course. Either way.. to go out of my way or for anyone to go out of their way to financially hurt someone just because you don’t agree with them is definitely a b**chmove. Now, you’re taking the initial step of taking this “issue” from the forum to the real world. I am curious why you would defend someone who hasn't actually contributed anything to this entire board in all 62 of their posts except to be a troll and also offers pieces that most cannot get from source for over twice what they cost? I hope you never have a piece that you really want only to find a ton of them on the 'bay for wayyyy more than they originally cost. I can tell you it sucks balls. And then for this troll to stir up the pot and for you to defend...he deserves to have the print rescinded. I see time and again others say that the artist should be the one making the money. And I have seen on the Paul Insect new print thread that his prices have gone way up b/c everyone else is making money off his prints except himself. I blame wimpyboya$$hat and others like him. First and foremost, I want to make clear I am not defending that guy.. I don’t know him nor do I care what’s going on.. but, I did make an observation and inserted my opinion. It does suck. As I stated the collectors who miss out are the victims here but.. If said “collector” was a true collector and interacted with the artists and followed them.. they wouldn’t get left out. They’d find a way. I didn’t go to OTI but managed to get the prints for slightly above retail. I didn’t go to Basel but I got a kaws set for retail.. it’s all about interacting and following artists. Price wise. The artist is making money. Price increases are due to supply and demand. They’re increasing the prices to squeeze out the resellers and to recoup those monies left on the table. And that’s great too. It’s an ecosystem that depends on sellers. Resellers and buyers to continue the justification is price increases. It’s like any ecosystem you need both to survive and grow.. but like I said I’m bias and really don’t give af what this guy does. Just thought it was vindictive to call for others to “out” this guy to Avante. |
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jbelleit
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by jbelleit on Jan 24, 2019 23:26:23 GMT 1, Must be nice to be able to afford a $65k Kaws set of prints. I, on the other hand, do not collect art for business purposes, but rather to put on my wall. I can't afford to impress galleries or artists that way. I also try to interact with the artists as much as possible but am limited by my day job and such.
If I could get in the back of the queue to have contact with Paul Insect this day, it'd still probably take a few years to have him even recognize my name. There are artists that are some of my favs and I try to have a relationship with them. But I cannot do that with ALL artists.
If I were to buy prints from all the galleries to have better standing with them, I would. Again, I just can't afford that route.
So if you think outing a flipper is bad etiquette...well I think coming to this board the day of a sale that was insta-hot and trying to hock your piece for double what it cost is bad etiquette. I understand that like a-holes, we all have our opinion, but to defend wimpy on this board is rather uncalled for (in my opinion).
Must be nice to be able to afford a $65k Kaws set of prints. I, on the other hand, do not collect art for business purposes, but rather to put on my wall. I can't afford to impress galleries or artists that way. I also try to interact with the artists as much as possible but am limited by my day job and such.
If I could get in the back of the queue to have contact with Paul Insect this day, it'd still probably take a few years to have him even recognize my name. There are artists that are some of my favs and I try to have a relationship with them. But I cannot do that with ALL artists.
If I were to buy prints from all the galleries to have better standing with them, I would. Again, I just can't afford that route.
So if you think outing a flipper is bad etiquette...well I think coming to this board the day of a sale that was insta-hot and trying to hock your piece for double what it cost is bad etiquette. I understand that like a-holes, we all have our opinion, but to defend wimpy on this board is rather uncalled for (in my opinion).
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jbelleit
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by jbelleit on Jan 25, 2019 0:15:01 GMT 1, I could care less who you are pals with...just time after time when you start new posts it’s thatbyou have a print that many of us tries to score , gets sold out immediately, then say you are willing to sell it at 2x the original cost.
If you are indeed in good with these artists and/or galleries, why don’t you just Let them know from the beginning that you are flipping their prints. Maybe they won’t care...but maybe they will.
I could care less who you are pals with...just time after time when you start new posts it’s thatbyou have a print that many of us tries to score , gets sold out immediately, then say you are willing to sell it at 2x the original cost.
If you are indeed in good with these artists and/or galleries, why don’t you just Let them know from the beginning that you are flipping their prints. Maybe they won’t care...but maybe they will.
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jbelleit
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by jbelleit on Jan 25, 2019 0:16:46 GMT 1, Go put it on the ‘bay and quit being a troll/flipper on this board. Or wait until someone posts that they are willing to pay 2x for said print and then DM that you are willing to flip.
Go put it on the ‘bay and quit being a troll/flipper on this board. Or wait until someone posts that they are willing to pay 2x for said print and then DM that you are willing to flip.
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hollowhills
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by hollowhills on Jan 25, 2019 0:28:50 GMT 1, The flip game in art will never change. It’s a never ending discussion. Who cares move on.
The flip game in art will never change. It’s a never ending discussion. Who cares move on.
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jbelleit
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by jbelleit on Jan 25, 2019 0:37:33 GMT 1, Whatever dude...spraying perfume on a piece of sh!t doesn’t make it a rose...it is still a piece of sh!t. Or rather a wimp.
Whatever dude...spraying perfume on a piece of sh!t doesn’t make it a rose...it is still a piece of sh!t. Or rather a wimp.
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jbelleit
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by jbelleit on Jan 25, 2019 0:42:20 GMT 1, Actually...I’ll buy it from you...just send me your PayPal info...
Actually...I’ll buy it from you...just send me your PayPal info...
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kalm
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by kalm on Jan 26, 2019 3:13:56 GMT 1, Bbperez would sell his own mother if it meant he would make a penny more.
Flippers are fucking scumbags who should be bettering their own situation instead of relying on others to live above their means.
Get a real job, Sir
Bbperez would sell his own mother if it meant he would make a penny more.
Flippers are fucking scumbags who should be bettering their own situation instead of relying on others to live above their means.
Get a real job, Sir
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bbperez1
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by bbperez1 on Jan 26, 2019 5:32:50 GMT 1, Bbperez would sell his own mother if it meant he would make a penny more. Flippers are f**kingscumbags who should be bettering their own situation instead of relying on others to live above their means. Get a real job, Sir
You’re such a bitter old man. You go out of your way to mention me lol But what do I know.. According to you I’m uneducated with no career.
Bbperez would sell his own mother if it meant he would make a penny more. Flippers are f**kingscumbags who should be bettering their own situation instead of relying on others to live above their means. Get a real job, Sir You’re such a bitter old man. You go out of your way to mention me lol But what do I know.. According to you I’m uneducated with no career. |
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dwight
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by dwight on Jan 27, 2019 2:29:21 GMT 1, I think the issue is when people only take from the forum, but haven't contributed. People sign up for the forum and immediately want to use it to sell something.
Also, I'm guessing that one of the reasons people dislike it is that some of these brand new users are sometimes duplicate accounts to sell something because they don't want to use their established account. What are the odds that someone is an experienced collector of this type of art but has never had a forum account.
I think the issue is when people only take from the forum, but haven't contributed. People sign up for the forum and immediately want to use it to sell something.
Also, I'm guessing that one of the reasons people dislike it is that some of these brand new users are sometimes duplicate accounts to sell something because they don't want to use their established account. What are the odds that someone is an experienced collector of this type of art but has never had a forum account.
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