mojo
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by mojo on Feb 13, 2019 12:49:58 GMT 1, Victim blame doesn't solve the crime and adds nothing to to the suffering the buyer is going through. However you want to look at this the Artsy site has been compromised and used to commit a crime and if they want to protect their brand they need to do something about it to protect their customers, both buyers and sellers.
Victim blame doesn't solve the crime and adds nothing to to the suffering the buyer is going through. However you want to look at this the Artsy site has been compromised and used to commit a crime and if they want to protect their brand they need to do something about it to protect their customers, both buyers and sellers.
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by Happy Shopper on Feb 13, 2019 12:52:49 GMT 1, Victim blame doesn't solve the crime and adds nothing to to the suffering the buyer is going through. However you want to look at this the Artsy site has been compromised and used to commit a crime and if they want to protect their brand they need to do something about it to protect their customers, both buyers and sellers. Exactly this.
I have done exactly the same, many times, and luckily it's always been fine. There's no reason anyone should doubt they're dealing with the real gallery through that system!
Victim blame doesn't solve the crime and adds nothing to to the suffering the buyer is going through. However you want to look at this the Artsy site has been compromised and used to commit a crime and if they want to protect their brand they need to do something about it to protect their customers, both buyers and sellers. Exactly this. I have done exactly the same, many times, and luckily it's always been fine. There's no reason anyone should doubt they're dealing with the real gallery through that system!
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mojo
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by mojo on Feb 13, 2019 13:01:46 GMT 1, Victim blame doesn't solve the crime and adds nothing to to the suffering the buyer is going through. However you want to look at this the Artsy site has been compromised and used to commit a crime and if they want to protect their brand they need to do something about it to protect their customers, both buyers and sellers. Exactly this. I have done exactly the same, many times, and luckily it's always been fine. There's no reason anyone should doubt they're dealing with the real gallery through that system! You would at the very least of expected Artsy to send out to all of their clients, both buyers & sellers to alert them that this is happening and make absolutely clear about their payment terms & conditions and what they are doing to ensure their site is secure. It shows a complete lack of professionalism that they aren't the one's overhauling their security. contact press@artsy.net and ask who runs their public relations and then contact them directly, it's a huge company backed by multi millionaires and there is absolutely no excuse for them not to deal with this.
Victim blame doesn't solve the crime and adds nothing to to the suffering the buyer is going through. However you want to look at this the Artsy site has been compromised and used to commit a crime and if they want to protect their brand they need to do something about it to protect their customers, both buyers and sellers. Exactly this. I have done exactly the same, many times, and luckily it's always been fine. There's no reason anyone should doubt they're dealing with the real gallery through that system! You would at the very least of expected Artsy to send out to all of their clients, both buyers & sellers to alert them that this is happening and make absolutely clear about their payment terms & conditions and what they are doing to ensure their site is secure. It shows a complete lack of professionalism that they aren't the one's overhauling their security. contact press@artsy.net and ask who runs their public relations and then contact them directly, it's a huge company backed by multi millionaires and there is absolutely no excuse for them not to deal with this.
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natstan
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by natstan on Feb 13, 2019 13:37:42 GMT 1, #bewareartsy #boycottartsy
Thereโs always instagram and social media. If they donโt want to expose their own shortcomings in the security system, weโll do it for them. With enough numbers from this forum here voicing out in their posts, itโll probably make the top guys at artsy to take actions.
#bewareartsy #boycottartsy
Thereโs always instagram and social media. If they donโt want to expose their own shortcomings in the security system, weโll do it for them. With enough numbers from this forum here voicing out in their posts, itโll probably make the top guys at artsy to take actions.
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 14:26:26 GMT 1, Victim blame doesn't solve the crime and adds nothing to to the suffering the buyer is going through. However you want to look at this the Artsy site has been compromised and used to commit a crime and if they want to protect their brand they need to do something about it to protect their customers, both buyers and sellers. It's all very well having a knee-jerk reaction and saying "don't blame the victim" but in something like 90% of cases it is the victim's fault. People do silly things. In this particular instance, I'm not sure. Both parties seem to be at fault, in my opinion.
Victim blame doesn't solve the crime and adds nothing to to the suffering the buyer is going through. However you want to look at this the Artsy site has been compromised and used to commit a crime and if they want to protect their brand they need to do something about it to protect their customers, both buyers and sellers. It's all very well having a knee-jerk reaction and saying "don't blame the victim" but in something like 90% of cases it is the victim's fault. People do silly things. In this particular instance, I'm not sure. Both parties seem to be at fault, in my opinion.
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mojo
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by mojo on Feb 13, 2019 14:31:25 GMT 1, Victim blame doesn't solve the crime and adds nothing to to the suffering the buyer is going through. However you want to look at this the Artsy site has been compromised and used to commit a crime and if they want to protect their brand they need to do something about it to protect their customers, both buyers and sellers. It's all very well having a knee-jerk reaction and saying "don't blame the victim" but in something like 90% of cases it is the victim's fault. People do silly things. In this particular instance, I'm not sure. Both parties seem to be at fault, in my opinion. Its not a knee jerk reaction you are wrongly assuming I have no experience in public relations for multi million pound companies.
Victim blame doesn't solve the crime and adds nothing to to the suffering the buyer is going through. However you want to look at this the Artsy site has been compromised and used to commit a crime and if they want to protect their brand they need to do something about it to protect their customers, both buyers and sellers. It's all very well having a knee-jerk reaction and saying "don't blame the victim" but in something like 90% of cases it is the victim's fault. People do silly things. In this particular instance, I'm not sure. Both parties seem to be at fault, in my opinion. Its not a knee jerk reaction you are wrongly assuming I have no experience in public relations for multi million pound companies.
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sptembergurl
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by sptembergurl on Feb 13, 2019 14:42:28 GMT 1, #bewareartsy #boycottartsy Thereโs always instagram and social media. If they donโt want to expose their own shortcomings in the security system, weโll do it for them. With enough numbers from this forum here voicing out in their posts, itโll probably make the top guys at artsy to take actions. Before I get the pitchforks out, I have to ask, how do we know this bad transaction actually happened? (No I donโt work for Artsy, nor have I bought anything using their site, I mean...why would I? Honest question, if I see a piece of work I like on their or any similar platform, why not ring up the gallery myself?)
We know it was a bad transaction because when the piece did not arrive, my husband called the gallery itself and they said this was the first theyโve heard from him and knew nothing about it.
#bewareartsy #boycottartsy Thereโs always instagram and social media. If they donโt want to expose their own shortcomings in the security system, weโll do it for them. With enough numbers from this forum here voicing out in their posts, itโll probably make the top guys at artsy to take actions. Before I get the pitchforks out, I have to ask, how do we know this bad transaction actually happened? (No I donโt work for Artsy, nor have I bought anything using their site, I mean...why would I? Honest question, if I see a piece of work I like on their or any similar platform, why not ring up the gallery myself?) We know it was a bad transaction because when the piece did not arrive, my husband called the gallery itself and they said this was the first theyโve heard from him and knew nothing about it.
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sptembergurl
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by sptembergurl on Feb 13, 2019 14:45:29 GMT 1, Additionally the gallery told us that Artsy knew they were hacked and told them to change passwords but everyone assumed no one was affected. BIG WRONG.
Additionally the gallery told us that Artsy knew they were hacked and told them to change passwords but everyone assumed no one was affected. BIG WRONG.
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sptembergurl
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by sptembergurl on Feb 13, 2019 14:57:03 GMT 1, I also want to come forward and tell you that one of the users on this forum msged me privately telling me they had a similar interaction on Artsy recently with the same email Artsy contact and โgallery employeeโ via Artsy. This user didnโt end up buying the piece but the โgalleryโ gave him or her a lower price for a well-known item, probably trying to get him/her to catch the bait. I donโt want to disclose dollar amounts on here from this transaction but I am sure we paid fair market value if not even a bit more. So it looks like this same scammer via artsy was seeking other victims.
I also want to come forward and tell you that one of the users on this forum msged me privately telling me they had a similar interaction on Artsy recently with the same email Artsy contact and โgallery employeeโ via Artsy. This user didnโt end up buying the piece but the โgalleryโ gave him or her a lower price for a well-known item, probably trying to get him/her to catch the bait. I donโt want to disclose dollar amounts on here from this transaction but I am sure we paid fair market value if not even a bit more. So it looks like this same scammer via artsy was seeking other victims.
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irl1
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by irl1 on Feb 13, 2019 14:57:32 GMT 1, Additionally the gallery told us that Artsy knew they were hacked and told them to change passwords but everyone assumed no one was affected. BIG WRONG. Keep the name of the person who told you that.
If they knew they would have sent emails around the company warning the staff. If it goes to court it will be easy to prove they knew. Doing noting about it would really put the blame on them.
Additionally the gallery told us that Artsy knew they were hacked and told them to change passwords but everyone assumed no one was affected. BIG WRONG. Keep the name of the person who told you that. If they knew they would have sent emails around the company warning the staff. If it goes to court it will be easy to prove they knew. Doing noting about it would really put the blame on them.
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by irl1 on Feb 13, 2019 15:01:36 GMT 1, artsy could be trying to trap this employee on another sale, now that they know who it is.
Maybe that's why they are saying noting to you.
artsy could be trying to trap this employee on another sale, now that they know who it is.
Maybe that's why they are saying noting to you.
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by avec art on Feb 13, 2019 15:04:01 GMT 1, wouldn't that be entrapment though
wouldn't that be entrapment though
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natstan
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by natstan on Feb 13, 2019 15:07:31 GMT 1, When a company knows their email system/ url has been abused or compromised, they should pursue this, investigate, announce publicly and account to customers who made purchases based on their very brand at the very least. Afterall, her husband landed on the supposed legit website and made a large value transaction. If this can happen to the OPโs husband, it could happen to every artsy customer. More help from artsy would be much appreciated i suppose.
#bewareartsy #boycottartsy Thereโs always instagram and social media. If they donโt want to expose their own shortcomings in the security system, weโll do it for them. With enough numbers from this forum here voicing out in their posts, itโll probably make the top guys at artsy to take actions. Before I get the pitchforks out, I have to ask, how do we know this bad transaction actually happened? (No I donโt work for Artsy, nor have I bought anything using their site, I mean...why would I? Honest question, if I see a piece of work I like on their or any similar platform, why not ring up the gallery myself?)
When a company knows their email system/ url has been abused or compromised, they should pursue this, investigate, announce publicly and account to customers who made purchases based on their very brand at the very least. Afterall, her husband landed on the supposed legit website and made a large value transaction. If this can happen to the OPโs husband, it could happen to every artsy customer. More help from artsy would be much appreciated i suppose. #bewareartsy #boycottartsy Thereโs always instagram and social media. If they donโt want to expose their own shortcomings in the security system, weโll do it for them. With enough numbers from this forum here voicing out in their posts, itโll probably make the top guys at artsy to take actions. Before I get the pitchforks out, I have to ask, how do we know this bad transaction actually happened? (No I donโt work for Artsy, nor have I bought anything using their site, I mean...why would I? Honest question, if I see a piece of work I like on their or any similar platform, why not ring up the gallery myself?)
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irl1
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by irl1 on Feb 13, 2019 15:08:56 GMT 1, wouldn't that be entrapment though Yes sort of.
If their not 100% sure they can't just go accusing a staff member of theft. They can only go by what the buyer is saying at the moment.
Really it was just a thought
wouldn't that be entrapment though Yes sort of. If their not 100% sure they can't just go accusing a staff member of theft. They can only go by what the buyer is saying at the moment. Really it was just a thought
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by ๐ ๐ ๐ on Feb 13, 2019 15:46:09 GMT 1, When a company knows their email system/ url has been abused or compromised, they should pursue this, investigate, announce publicly and account to customers who made purchases based on their very brand at the very least. Afterall, her husband landed on the supposed legit website and made a large value transaction. If this can happen to the OPโs husband, it could happen to every artsy customer. More help from artsy would be much appreciated i suppose. Before I get the pitchforks out, I have to ask, how do we know this bad transaction actually happened? (No I donโt work for Artsy, nor have I bought anything using their site, I mean...why would I? Honest question, if I see a piece of work I like on their or any similar platform, why not ring up the gallery myself?) My point is, before I begin posting #boycott an organization I need a bit more to go on than an anonymous poster on an open forum saying something happened to her husband.
When a company knows their email system/ url has been abused or compromised, they should pursue this, investigate, announce publicly and account to customers who made purchases based on their very brand at the very least. Afterall, her husband landed on the supposed legit website and made a large value transaction. If this can happen to the OPโs husband, it could happen to every artsy customer. More help from artsy would be much appreciated i suppose. Before I get the pitchforks out, I have to ask, how do we know this bad transaction actually happened? (No I donโt work for Artsy, nor have I bought anything using their site, I mean...why would I? Honest question, if I see a piece of work I like on their or any similar platform, why not ring up the gallery myself?) My point is, before I begin posting #boycott an organization I need a bit more to go on than an anonymous poster on an open forum saying something happened to her husband.
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by ๐ ๐ ๐ on Feb 13, 2019 15:49:12 GMT 1, It's all very well having a knee-jerk reaction and saying "don't blame the victim" but in something like 90% of cases it is the victim's fault. ย People do silly things. ย In this particular instance, I'm not sure. ย Both parties seem to be at fault, in my opinion. Sometimes people also do silly things like making up statistics. Rarely happens, only 22% of the time.
It's all very well having a knee-jerk reaction and saying "don't blame the victim" but in something like 90% of cases it is the victim's fault. ย People do silly things. ย In this particular instance, I'm not sure. ย Both parties seem to be at fault, in my opinion. Sometimes people also do silly things like making up statistics. Rarely happens, only 22% of the time.
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sptembergurl
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by sptembergurl on Feb 13, 2019 15:51:15 GMT 1, When a company knows their email system/ url has been abused or compromised, they should pursue this, investigate, announce publicly and account to customers who made purchases based on their very brand at the very least. Afterall, her husband landed on the supposed legit website and made a large value transaction. If this can happen to the OPโs husband, it could happen to every artsy customer. More help from artsy would be much appreciated i suppose. My point is, before I begin posting #boycott an organization I need a bit more to go on than an anonymous poster on an open forum saying something happened to her husband.
Believe me, my husband I would have preferred to deal with this quietly but because Artsy is pretty much ignoring us that is why I came here. They are not giving us the time of day. I am trying to protect all of you too. I would love a decent explanation. Instead we got their lawyer telling us to contact the gallery. Nothing more. Like I said, slap in the face. We are already upset enough by the loss.
When a company knows their email system/ url has been abused or compromised, they should pursue this, investigate, announce publicly and account to customers who made purchases based on their very brand at the very least. Afterall, her husband landed on the supposed legit website and made a large value transaction. If this can happen to the OPโs husband, it could happen to every artsy customer. More help from artsy would be much appreciated i suppose. My point is, before I begin posting #boycott an organization I need a bit more to go on than an anonymous poster on an open forum saying something happened to her husband. Believe me, my husband I would have preferred to deal with this quietly but because Artsy is pretty much ignoring us that is why I came here. They are not giving us the time of day. I am trying to protect all of you too. I would love a decent explanation. Instead we got their lawyer telling us to contact the gallery. Nothing more. Like I said, slap in the face. We are already upset enough by the loss.
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by GMA on Feb 13, 2019 16:10:32 GMT 1, My point is, before I begin posting #boycott an organization I need a bit more to go on than an anonymous poster on an open forum saying something happened to her husband. Believe me, my husband I would have preferred to deal with this quietly but because Artsy is pretty much ignoring us that is why I came here. They are not giving us the time of day. I am trying to protect all of you too. I would love a decent explanation. Instead we got their lawyer telling us to contact the gallery. Nothing more. Like I said, slap in the face. We are already upset enough by the loss. I'm sure it's a story Watchdog wouldn't mind investigating.
My point is, before I begin posting #boycott an organization I need a bit more to go on than an anonymous poster on an open forum saying something happened to her husband. Believe me, my husband I would have preferred to deal with this quietly but because Artsy is pretty much ignoring us that is why I came here. They are not giving us the time of day. I am trying to protect all of you too. I would love a decent explanation. Instead we got their lawyer telling us to contact the gallery. Nothing more. Like I said, slap in the face. We are already upset enough by the loss. I'm sure it's a story Watchdog wouldn't mind investigating.
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 16:13:57 GMT 1, It's all very well having a knee-jerk reaction and saying "don't blame the victim" but in something like 90% of cases it is the victim's fault. People do silly things. In this particular instance, I'm not sure. Both parties seem to be at fault, in my opinion. Its not a knee jerk reaction you are wrongly assuming I have no experience in public relations for multi million pound companies. The point I am making has nothing to do with public relations.
It's all very well having a knee-jerk reaction and saying "don't blame the victim" but in something like 90% of cases it is the victim's fault. People do silly things. In this particular instance, I'm not sure. Both parties seem to be at fault, in my opinion. Its not a knee jerk reaction you are wrongly assuming I have no experience in public relations for multi million pound companies. The point I am making has nothing to do with public relations.
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by Coach on Feb 13, 2019 16:36:03 GMT 1, When a company knows their email system/ url has been abused or compromised, they should pursue this, investigate, announce publicly and account to customers who made purchases based on their very brand at the very least. Afterall, her husband landed on the supposed legit website and made a large value transaction. If this can happen to the OPโs husband, it could happen to every artsy customer. More help from artsy would be much appreciated i suppose. My point is, before I begin posting #boycott an organization I need a bit more to go on than an anonymous poster on an open forum saying something happened to her husband.
Iโm minded to agree with you.
When a company knows their email system/ url has been abused or compromised, they should pursue this, investigate, announce publicly and account to customers who made purchases based on their very brand at the very least. Afterall, her husband landed on the supposed legit website and made a large value transaction. If this can happen to the OPโs husband, it could happen to every artsy customer. More help from artsy would be much appreciated i suppose. My point is, before I begin posting #boycott an organization I need a bit more to go on than an anonymous poster on an open forum saying something happened to her husband. Iโm minded to agree with you.
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natstan
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by natstan on Feb 13, 2019 16:49:47 GMT 1, Alright, maybe boycott is a strong word. When a company knows their email system/ url has been abused or compromised, they should pursue this, investigate, announce publicly and account to customers who made purchases based on their very brand at the very least. Afterall, her husband landed on the supposed legit website and made a large value transaction. If this can happen to the OPโs husband, it could happen to every artsy customer. More help from artsy would be much appreciated i suppose. My point is, before I begin posting #boycott an organization I need a bit more to go on than an anonymous poster on an open forum saying something happened to her husband.
Alright, maybe boycott is a strong word. When a company knows their email system/ url has been abused or compromised, they should pursue this, investigate, announce publicly and account to customers who made purchases based on their very brand at the very least. Afterall, her husband landed on the supposed legit website and made a large value transaction. If this can happen to the OPโs husband, it could happen to every artsy customer. More help from artsy would be much appreciated i suppose. My point is, before I begin posting #boycott an organization I need a bit more to go on than an anonymous poster on an open forum saying something happened to her husband.
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by mojo on Feb 13, 2019 17:13:16 GMT 1, Its not a knee jerk reaction you are wrongly assuming I have no experience in public relations for multi million pound companies. The point I am making has nothing to do with public relations. This whole situation has everything to do with Artsy's public relations or lack of.
Its not a knee jerk reaction you are wrongly assuming I have no experience in public relations for multi million pound companies. The point I am making has nothing to do with public relations. This whole situation has everything to do with Artsy's public relations or lack of.
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by irl1 on Feb 13, 2019 17:17:29 GMT 1, How helpful were the cops on this? Did they give you any hope
How helpful were the cops on this? Did they give you any hope
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by sptembergurl on Feb 13, 2019 17:19:16 GMT 1, How helpful were the cops on this? Did they give you any hopeย
Iโd rather not disclose this information right now as itโs all in process right now.
How helpful were the cops on this? Did they give you any hopeย Iโd rather not disclose this information right now as itโs all in process right now.
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 17:22:43 GMT 1, The point I am making has nothing to do with public relations. This whole situation has everything to do with Artsy's public relations or lack of. Not true.
The issue did not arise due to bad public relations. If you take the time to re-read my post you will clearly see I was making a point completely separate from the issue of Artsy's public relations or lack thereof.
The point I am making has nothing to do with public relations. This whole situation has everything to do with Artsy's public relations or lack of. Not true. The issue did not arise due to bad public relations. If you take the time to re-read my post you will clearly see I was making a point completely separate from the issue of Artsy's public relations or lack thereof.
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by sfnyc on Feb 13, 2019 17:27:36 GMT 1, Sorry to hear that and hope it will be solved quickly as there is clear negligence from the gallery here for not changing their passwords after artsy was hacked and notified them, which thus makes it fully responsible by negligence. You will win against them in court if it comes to it.
Buying from Artsy is a big no-no for me as the company/founder has absolutely zero interest in arts or collectors, only raking in gallery listing & auction fees.... And this is just sadly another story that demonstrates that point imo. No need for pitchforks, people will eventually come to this conclusion on their own as they deal with artsy. Everyone gets burned from artsy at one point or the other, many by buying fakes and never finding out...
Sorry to hear that and hope it will be solved quickly as there is clear negligence from the gallery here for not changing their passwords after artsy was hacked and notified them, which thus makes it fully responsible by negligence. You will win against them in court if it comes to it.
Buying from Artsy is a big no-no for me as the company/founder has absolutely zero interest in arts or collectors, only raking in gallery listing & auction fees.... And this is just sadly another story that demonstrates that point imo. No need for pitchforks, people will eventually come to this conclusion on their own as they deal with artsy. Everyone gets burned from artsy at one point or the other, many by buying fakes and never finding out...
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by sptembergurl on Feb 13, 2019 17:29:38 GMT 1, Sorry to hear that and hope it will be solved quickly as there is clear negligence from the gallery here for not changing their passwords after artsy was hacked and notified them, which thus makes it fully responsible by negligence. You will win against them in court if it comes to it. Buying from Artsy is a big no-no for me as the company/founder has absolutely zero interest in arts or collectors, only raking in gallery listing & auction fees.... And this is just sadly another story that demonstrates that point imo. No need for pitchforks, people will eventually come to this conclusion on their own as they deal with artsy. Everyone gets burned from artsy at one point or the other, many by buying fakes and never finding out...
No, I believe they did change their passwords but it was too late.
Sorry to hear that and hope it will be solved quickly as there is clear negligence from the gallery here for not changing their passwords after artsy was hacked and notified them, which thus makes it fully responsible by negligence. You will win against them in court if it comes to it. Buying from Artsy is a big no-no for me as the company/founder has absolutely zero interest in arts or collectors, only raking in gallery listing & auction fees.... And this is just sadly another story that demonstrates that point imo. No need for pitchforks, people will eventually come to this conclusion on their own as they deal with artsy. Everyone gets burned from artsy at one point or the other, many by buying fakes and never finding out... No, I believe they did change their passwords but it was too late.
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Mirus Gallery
Art Gallery
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March 2014
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by Mirus Gallery on Feb 13, 2019 17:58:23 GMT 1, I don't get why people are continuing to blame artsy on this matter without proper knowledge that Artsy was compromised. The way this particular scam happens is that the galleries email was hacked and compromised. This email could have been Google, yahoo etc. So why not put blame on the email provider. People use scams all the time posing as another website to scam. If the gallery Email was hacked to see artsy emails and then an fake artsy email was made to talk to the buyer I am at a loss why this is Artsy fault. Are they to change their whole process of using email to communicate? There has been no mention that the actual Artsy interface was hacked. From what I gather the gallery email was hacked, and that could fall on negligence from the gallery being phished.
Also look into the articles I mentioned about title companies having this same issue. Ive read of lawsuits against real estate agents who's emails were hacked to do this exact same thing. They are being sued for not using a safe email platform to conduct business as its not safe.
I don't get why people are continuing to blame artsy on this matter without proper knowledge that Artsy was compromised. The way this particular scam happens is that the galleries email was hacked and compromised. This email could have been Google, yahoo etc. So why not put blame on the email provider. People use scams all the time posing as another website to scam. If the gallery Email was hacked to see artsy emails and then an fake artsy email was made to talk to the buyer I am at a loss why this is Artsy fault. Are they to change their whole process of using email to communicate? There has been no mention that the actual Artsy interface was hacked. From what I gather the gallery email was hacked, and that could fall on negligence from the gallery being phished.
Also look into the articles I mentioned about title companies having this same issue. Ive read of lawsuits against real estate agents who's emails were hacked to do this exact same thing. They are being sued for not using a safe email platform to conduct business as its not safe.
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unkle77
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October 2008
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by unkle77 on Feb 13, 2019 18:00:36 GMT 1, I don't get why people are continuing to blame artsy on this matter without proper knowledge that Artsy was compromised. The way this particular scam happens is that the galleries email was hacked and compromised. This email could have been Google, yahoo etc. So why not put blame on the email provider. People use scams all the time posing as another website to scam. If the gallery Email was hacked to see artsy emails and then an fake artsy email was made to talk to the buyer I am at a loss why this is Artsy fault. Are they to change their whole process of using email to communicate? There has been no mention that the actual Artsy interface was hacked. From what I gather the gallery email was hacked, and that could fall on negligence from the gallery being phished. Also look into the articles I mentioned about title companies having this same issue. Ive read of lawsuits against real estate agents who's emails were hacked to do this exact same thing. They are being sued for not using a safe email platform to conduct business as its not safe. www.theregister.co.uk/2019/02/11/620_million_hacked_accounts_dark_web/
Artsy 1,070,000 accounts for 0.0289 BTC ($104) total
184MB of data taken April 2018. Each account record contains an email address, name, IP addresses, location, and SHA512-hashed password with salt. This alleged security breach has not been previously publicly disclosed. Artsy, located in NYC, is an online home for collecting and organizing art. A spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment.
Artsy is silent, as they are here it seems. But yes, I do agree that it looks like the gallery was hacked via Artsy. Somewhere a long the line it seems like the communication went external to artsy, hence when a artsy.net e-mail was used. As said earlier, there are a lot of missing pieces, bad situation all around.
I don't get why people are continuing to blame artsy on this matter without proper knowledge that Artsy was compromised. The way this particular scam happens is that the galleries email was hacked and compromised. This email could have been Google, yahoo etc. So why not put blame on the email provider. People use scams all the time posing as another website to scam. If the gallery Email was hacked to see artsy emails and then an fake artsy email was made to talk to the buyer I am at a loss why this is Artsy fault. Are they to change their whole process of using email to communicate? There has been no mention that the actual Artsy interface was hacked. From what I gather the gallery email was hacked, and that could fall on negligence from the gallery being phished. Also look into the articles I mentioned about title companies having this same issue. Ive read of lawsuits against real estate agents who's emails were hacked to do this exact same thing. They are being sued for not using a safe email platform to conduct business as its not safe. www.theregister.co.uk/2019/02/11/620_million_hacked_accounts_dark_web/Artsy 1,070,000 accounts for 0.0289 BTC ($104) total 184MB of data taken April 2018. Each account record contains an email address, name, IP addresses, location, and SHA512-hashed password with salt. This alleged security breach has not been previously publicly disclosed. Artsy, located in NYC, is an online home for collecting and organizing art. A spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment. Artsy is silent, as they are here it seems. But yes, I do agree that it looks like the gallery was hacked via Artsy. Somewhere a long the line it seems like the communication went external to artsy, hence when a artsy.net e-mail was used. As said earlier, there are a lot of missing pieces, bad situation all around.
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GMA
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October 2015
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Need Advice - Victim of Fraud Via Arsty, by GMA on Feb 13, 2019 18:09:38 GMT 1, *Note to self: Never buy anything from Artsy
*Note to self: Never buy anything from Artsy
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