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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by Hairbland on Jun 5, 2019 15:38:07 GMT 1,
Triptych looks good if not actually a triptych, photo from his Philadelphia museum show 4-5 years ago, which was a great show. Sat on that bench.
Triptych looks good if not actually a triptych, photo from his Philadelphia museum show 4-5 years ago, which was a great show. Sat on that bench. |
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by Swishhh on Jun 5, 2019 15:41:35 GMT 1, Triptych looks good if not actually a triptych, photo from his Philadelphia museum show 4-5 years ago, which was a great show. Sat on that bench.
Would have loved to go to that PAFA show, the juxtaposition of works looked amazing in pictures
Triptych looks good if not actually a triptych, photo from his Philadelphia museum show 4-5 years ago, which was a great show. Sat on that bench. Agreed the Triptych does look good! Would have loved to go to that PAFA show, the juxtaposition of works looked amazing in pictures |
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by vhpham86 on Jun 6, 2019 2:58:51 GMT 1,
My two
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by Matt on Jun 6, 2019 6:33:02 GMT 1, My two
a peni$ in the eye and two post-it’s !
What an artist :-)
My two a peni$ in the eye and two post-it’s ! What an artist :-) |
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by 19818914 on Jun 6, 2019 7:16:12 GMT 1, My two a peni$ in the eye and two post-it’s ! What an artist :-)
It’s really just a color study. Something to put on the wall to add a little pop.
My two a peni$ in the eye and two post-it’s ! What an artist :-) It’s really just a color study. Something to put on the wall to add a little pop. |
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by rosac on Jun 6, 2019 21:16:28 GMT 1, I'm amazed people are buying a cut up print for those prices. Actually, I'm not amazed, it's on par for the art world.
I agree, does a cut out of an artwork make it an artwork in itself? Or do people like it for the bright colours decorative aspect?
Must be honest I’m getting a bit bored of kaws. However clearly a lot of people say different. Each to their own.
I'm amazed people are buying a cut up print for those prices. Actually, I'm not amazed, it's on par for the art world. I agree, does a cut out of an artwork make it an artwork in itself? Or do people like it for the bright colours decorative aspect? Must be honest I’m getting a bit bored of kaws. However clearly a lot of people say different. Each to their own. |
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by Inknart on Jun 6, 2019 21:21:17 GMT 1, I'm amazed people are buying a cut up print for those prices. Actually, I'm not amazed, it's on par for the art world. I agree, does a cut out of an artwork make it an artwork in itself? Or do people like it for the bright colours decorative aspect? Must be honest I’m getting a bit bored of kaws. However clearly a lot of people say different. Each to their own.
To me , it's all relative. Banksy's unsigned prints go up in value because signed prints become out of reach.
KAWS prints keep going up, which will pull these up, scraps or not. Hey at least they're signed by the artist. Some work very well alone.
Not everyone has 16k laying around for a full print, and they just go up from there for colored prints like YSKIK and PTP which are now around 25k-30k.
I'm amazed people are buying a cut up print for those prices. Actually, I'm not amazed, it's on par for the art world. I agree, does a cut out of an artwork make it an artwork in itself? Or do people like it for the bright colours decorative aspect? Must be honest I’m getting a bit bored of kaws. However clearly a lot of people say different. Each to their own. I can't believe people buy unsigned prints by Banksy. Quite literally where the artists has never touched. To me , it's all relative. Banksy's unsigned prints go up in value because signed prints become out of reach. KAWS prints keep going up, which will pull these up, scraps or not. Hey at least they're signed by the artist. Some work very well alone. Not everyone has 16k laying around for a full print, and they just go up from there for colored prints like YSKIK and PTP which are now around 25k-30k. |
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by ca on Jun 6, 2019 21:38:16 GMT 1, that should be a good test of value. Kaws related stuff on paddle8 tends to get overbid like a mofucka so will be interesting to see the precedent it sets. Whatever endsup being the last bid, I would almost see it as a max value
that should be a good test of value. Kaws related stuff on paddle8 tends to get overbid like a mofucka so will be interesting to see the precedent it sets. Whatever endsup being the last bid, I would almost see it as a max value |
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by touchdowntodd on Jun 6, 2019 21:50:10 GMT 1, I agree, does a cut out of an artwork make it an artwork in itself? Or do people like it for the bright colours decorative aspect? Must be honest I’m getting a bit bored of kaws. However clearly a lot of people say different. Each to their own. I can't believe people buy unsigned prints by Banksy. Quite literally where the artists has never touched. To me , it's all relative. Banksy's unsigned prints go up in value because signed prints become out of reach. KAWS prints keep going up, which will pull these up, scraps or not. Hey at least they're signed by the artist. Some work very well alone. Not everyone has 16k laying around for a full print, and they just go up from there for colored prints like YSKIK and PTP which are now around 25k-30k.
Signed vs signed is all relative, let's not play up the 3 seconds of contact each print gets as an artist signs (most keeping in stacks while signing, thereby not even seeing the whole image anyways)... Unless an artist does the screening himself, were all just buying other people's vectoring and printing of a picture of a work anyways, and let's not even speak about artists doing these iPad releases where they never even paint the work or even have assistant paint. The "work" is literally never real lol..
Banksy wasn't the only one to sell signed and unsigned, and lots of unsigned works have held value over years. Especially with provenance like PC give..
The difference isn't the signature, it's having an entire image. Also lots of people don't worry as much about signed vs unsigned given the differences in signatures, and more than likely reality that not only is he not just one man, but In fact he may never have signed "himself" anyways.. Eine probably signed em all lol
I agree, does a cut out of an artwork make it an artwork in itself? Or do people like it for the bright colours decorative aspect? Must be honest I’m getting a bit bored of kaws. However clearly a lot of people say different. Each to their own. I can't believe people buy unsigned prints by Banksy. Quite literally where the artists has never touched. To me , it's all relative. Banksy's unsigned prints go up in value because signed prints become out of reach. KAWS prints keep going up, which will pull these up, scraps or not. Hey at least they're signed by the artist. Some work very well alone. Not everyone has 16k laying around for a full print, and they just go up from there for colored prints like YSKIK and PTP which are now around 25k-30k. Signed vs signed is all relative, let's not play up the 3 seconds of contact each print gets as an artist signs (most keeping in stacks while signing, thereby not even seeing the whole image anyways)... Unless an artist does the screening himself, were all just buying other people's vectoring and printing of a picture of a work anyways, and let's not even speak about artists doing these iPad releases where they never even paint the work or even have assistant paint. The "work" is literally never real lol.. Banksy wasn't the only one to sell signed and unsigned, and lots of unsigned works have held value over years. Especially with provenance like PC give.. The difference isn't the signature, it's having an entire image. Also lots of people don't worry as much about signed vs unsigned given the differences in signatures, and more than likely reality that not only is he not just one man, but In fact he may never have signed "himself" anyways.. Eine probably signed em all lol |
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by Inknart on Jun 6, 2019 21:54:33 GMT 1, I can't believe people buy unsigned prints by Banksy. Quite literally where the artists has never touched. To me , it's all relative. Banksy's unsigned prints go up in value because signed prints become out of reach. KAWS prints keep going up, which will pull these up, scraps or not. Hey at least they're signed by the artist. Some work very well alone. Not everyone has 16k laying around for a full print, and they just go up from there for colored prints like YSKIK and PTP which are now around 25k-30k. Signed vs signed is all relative, let's not play up the 3 seconds of contact each print gets as an artist signs (most keeping in stacks while signing, thereby not even seeing the whole image anyways)... Unless an artist does the screening himself, were all just buying other people's vectoring and printing of a picture of a work anyways, and let's not even speak about artists doing these iPad releases where they never even paint the work or even have assistant paint. The "work" is literally never real lol.. Banksy wasn't the only one to sell signed and unsigned, and lots of unsigned works have held value over years. Especially with provenance like PC give.. The difference isn't the signature, it's having an entire image. Also lots of people don't worry as much about signed vs unsigned given the differences in signatures, and more than likely reality that not only is he not just one man, but In fact he may never have signed "himself" anyways.. Eine probably signed em all lol
His work is already insanely abstract, so it would be hard to classify anything as a full image imo.
If these weren't taken from previous editions, nobody would know the wiser as to a whole image vs a portion of one.
I can't believe people buy unsigned prints by Banksy. Quite literally where the artists has never touched. To me , it's all relative. Banksy's unsigned prints go up in value because signed prints become out of reach. KAWS prints keep going up, which will pull these up, scraps or not. Hey at least they're signed by the artist. Some work very well alone. Not everyone has 16k laying around for a full print, and they just go up from there for colored prints like YSKIK and PTP which are now around 25k-30k. Signed vs signed is all relative, let's not play up the 3 seconds of contact each print gets as an artist signs (most keeping in stacks while signing, thereby not even seeing the whole image anyways)... Unless an artist does the screening himself, were all just buying other people's vectoring and printing of a picture of a work anyways, and let's not even speak about artists doing these iPad releases where they never even paint the work or even have assistant paint. The "work" is literally never real lol.. Banksy wasn't the only one to sell signed and unsigned, and lots of unsigned works have held value over years. Especially with provenance like PC give.. The difference isn't the signature, it's having an entire image. Also lots of people don't worry as much about signed vs unsigned given the differences in signatures, and more than likely reality that not only is he not just one man, but In fact he may never have signed "himself" anyways.. Eine probably signed em all lol I think some of these so called "Scraps" have better context than some of his full prints. His work is already insanely abstract, so it would be hard to classify anything as a full image imo. If these weren't taken from previous editions, nobody would know the wiser as to a whole image vs a portion of one. |
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by Charlie Bronson on Jun 6, 2019 22:27:13 GMT 1, Just received mine. Bought it off the bay, sealed, not knowing which one it would be. Extremely happy with the result. Glad I rolled the dice.
Just received mine. Bought it off the bay, sealed, not knowing which one it would be. Extremely happy with the result. Glad I rolled the dice. |
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by touchdowntodd on Jun 6, 2019 22:34:46 GMT 1, Signed vs signed is all relative, let's not play up the 3 seconds of contact each print gets as an artist signs (most keeping in stacks while signing, thereby not even seeing the whole image anyways)... Unless an artist does the screening himself, were all just buying other people's vectoring and printing of a picture of a work anyways, and let's not even speak about artists doing these iPad releases where they never even paint the work or even have assistant paint. The "work" is literally never real lol.. Banksy wasn't the only one to sell signed and unsigned, and lots of unsigned works have held value over years. Especially with provenance like PC give.. The difference isn't the signature, it's having an entire image. Also lots of people don't worry as much about signed vs unsigned given the differences in signatures, and more than likely reality that not only is he not just one man, but In fact he may never have signed "himself" anyways.. Eine probably signed em all lol I think some of these so called "Scraps" have better context than some of his full prints. His work is already insanely abstract, so it would be hard to classify anything as a full image imo. If these weren't taken from previous editions, nobody would know the wiser as to a whole image vs a portion of one.
We shall agree to disagree. Personally, I agree with u in regards to singles from sets, but that's always been hard to categorize and always been loved by some and not by others.. but the single print releases, and nearly every original work imo has a distinct full image
Signed vs signed is all relative, let's not play up the 3 seconds of contact each print gets as an artist signs (most keeping in stacks while signing, thereby not even seeing the whole image anyways)... Unless an artist does the screening himself, were all just buying other people's vectoring and printing of a picture of a work anyways, and let's not even speak about artists doing these iPad releases where they never even paint the work or even have assistant paint. The "work" is literally never real lol.. Banksy wasn't the only one to sell signed and unsigned, and lots of unsigned works have held value over years. Especially with provenance like PC give.. The difference isn't the signature, it's having an entire image. Also lots of people don't worry as much about signed vs unsigned given the differences in signatures, and more than likely reality that not only is he not just one man, but In fact he may never have signed "himself" anyways.. Eine probably signed em all lol I think some of these so called "Scraps" have better context than some of his full prints. His work is already insanely abstract, so it would be hard to classify anything as a full image imo. If these weren't taken from previous editions, nobody would know the wiser as to a whole image vs a portion of one. We shall agree to disagree. Personally, I agree with u in regards to singles from sets, but that's always been hard to categorize and always been loved by some and not by others.. but the single print releases, and nearly every original work imo has a distinct full image |
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 22:37:00 GMT 1, Just received mine. Bought it off the bay, sealed, not knowing which one it would be. Extremely happy with the result. Glad I rolled the dice.
Brilliant. Love it
Just received mine. Bought it off the bay, sealed, not knowing which one it would be. Extremely happy with the result. Glad I rolled the dice. Brilliant. Love it |
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by warwolf on Jun 6, 2019 22:52:52 GMT 1, His work is already very abstract, so cutting them into smaller pieces doesn't effect the aesthetics or style imo. I'd rather have many of these than some of his previous prints like the giant tongue. I'd also much rather have one of these over a 10k Pinocchio Toy that is unsigned and highly bootlegged. I like to think that if basquiat, warhol, harring, ect had something like this I would still love to have it in my home and consider it a part of of history. So I genuinely don't think as blue chip artist, something like these signed cut prints for 3500 is unreasonable or weird when his single prints are probably 30k+ now at cost. so if keith haring made a print of this:  and cut it up so it looked like this:  you would still buy it? that seems like what is happening with the MOCAD edition. at that point it seems like the buyer is just buying the artist's signature. i barely even see a connection between the cut-out image and the artist's original work. like this print, which bears almost no resemblance to kaws' work as an excerpted print:  no one would even be able to identify that as a kaws work absent a signature. this is just getting nuts to me, but i'll enjoy the show. and yes, as always, people are free to buy whatever art they like!
This post is still so relevant, if the composition of a piece of art is no longer important, all bets are off
His work is already very abstract, so cutting them into smaller pieces doesn't effect the aesthetics or style imo. I'd rather have many of these than some of his previous prints like the giant tongue. I'd also much rather have one of these over a 10k Pinocchio Toy that is unsigned and highly bootlegged. I like to think that if basquiat, warhol, harring, ect had something like this I would still love to have it in my home and consider it a part of of history. So I genuinely don't think as blue chip artist, something like these signed cut prints for 3500 is unreasonable or weird when his single prints are probably 30k+ now at cost. so if keith haring made a print of this: and cut it up so it looked like this: you would still buy it? that seems like what is happening with the MOCAD edition. at that point it seems like the buyer is just buying the artist's signature. i barely even see a connection between the cut-out image and the artist's original work. like this print, which bears almost no resemblance to kaws' work as an excerpted print: no one would even be able to identify that as a kaws work absent a signature. this is just getting nuts to me, but i'll enjoy the show. and yes, as always, people are free to buy whatever art they like! This post is still so relevant, if the composition of a piece of art is no longer important, all bets are off |
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by Inknart on Jun 6, 2019 23:05:32 GMT 1, so if keith haring made a print of this: and cut it up so it looked like this: you would still buy it? that seems like what is happening with the MOCAD edition. at that point it seems like the buyer is just buying the artist's signature. i barely even see a connection between the cut-out image and the artist's original work. like this print, which bears almost no resemblance to kaws' work as an excerpted print: no one would even be able to identify that as a kaws work absent a signature. this is just getting nuts to me, but i'll enjoy the show. and yes, as always, people are free to buy whatever art they like! This post is still so relevant, if the composition of a piece of art is no longer important, all bets are off
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so if keith haring made a print of this: and cut it up so it looked like this: you would still buy it? that seems like what is happening with the MOCAD edition. at that point it seems like the buyer is just buying the artist's signature. i barely even see a connection between the cut-out image and the artist's original work. like this print, which bears almost no resemblance to kaws' work as an excerpted print: no one would even be able to identify that as a kaws work absent a signature. this is just getting nuts to me, but i'll enjoy the show. and yes, as always, people are free to buy whatever art they like! This post is still so relevant, if the composition of a piece of art is no longer important, all bets are off Also Relevant, a lot of these are better if not the same as actual prints. I guess none of his work is important then? Actual Print MOCAD Print |
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by KGR on Jun 7, 2019 0:37:02 GMT 1, This post is still so relevant, if the composition of a piece of art is no longer important, all bets are off Also Relevant, a lot of these are better if not the same as actual prints. I guess none of his work is important then? Actual Print MOCAD Print Thats not the same print Dude.
This post is still so relevant, if the composition of a piece of art is no longer important, all bets are off Also Relevant, a lot of these are better if not the same as actual prints. I guess none of his work is important then? Actual Print MOCAD Print Thats not the same print Dude.
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by Inknart on Jun 7, 2019 0:41:19 GMT 1, Also Relevant, a lot of these are better if not the same as actual prints. I guess none of his work is important then? Actual Print MOCAD Print Thats not the same print Dude.
A so called scrap that apparently doesn’t have the same substance as full prints...
Also Relevant, a lot of these are better if not the same as actual prints. I guess none of his work is important then? Actual Print MOCAD Print Thats not the same print Dude.
Ugh, yeah correct. Pointing out how similar some of these MOCAD prints are to actual prints from an edition. A so called scrap that apparently doesn’t have the same substance as full prints... |
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by touchdowntodd on Jun 7, 2019 0:56:48 GMT 1, Thats not the same print Dude.
Ugh, yeah correct. Pointing out how similar some of these MOCAD prints are to actual prints from an edition. A so called scrap that apparently doesn’t have the same substance as full prints...
I understand you're defending the release
But I feel youre missing the point.. it's not an intended release. He didn't sit back and design an 8" print. He did design that larger version that was part of an intended set of 10 made to play off others, which is also why those prints singly are worth less than others.. and avoided by some collectors entirely..
Artist intent is what some people dislike about this .. that's the bottom line. Along with size, image, etc
The fact that 1 in 50 of these resembles a weak image from a set of 10 doesn't mean anything...
You love the mocads.. and that's cool, I'm happy for you and happy you have some.. but we don't all have to feel the same, even if we're fans of his works..
If "value" currently is correct, people should have no issues trading 4 Mocad prints for 1 single regular release.. and we can all agree that will never happen
Just the same as I personally wouldn't buy just the headlight off a Ferrari ...
Some people are happy about the 1k prints, others are upset because regardless of perceived value etc, they feel he's watering down and pushing his market to a breaking point. Same reason some love recent vinyl, some entirely walked away from collecting him because of it.
There's no right or wrong, and the art side of the discussion isn't even an argument, it's just coming down to value to some people and defending that.. we all know artistically these are a nice afterthought. But we also know some people hyping these made fun of others for framing signed books, show cards, etc.. which in my theory are on par with this if not above it in terms of thought out process
Thats not the same print Dude.
Ugh, yeah correct. Pointing out how similar some of these MOCAD prints are to actual prints from an edition. A so called scrap that apparently doesn’t have the same substance as full prints... I understand you're defending the release But I feel youre missing the point.. it's not an intended release. He didn't sit back and design an 8" print. He did design that larger version that was part of an intended set of 10 made to play off others, which is also why those prints singly are worth less than others.. and avoided by some collectors entirely.. Artist intent is what some people dislike about this .. that's the bottom line. Along with size, image, etc The fact that 1 in 50 of these resembles a weak image from a set of 10 doesn't mean anything... You love the mocads.. and that's cool, I'm happy for you and happy you have some.. but we don't all have to feel the same, even if we're fans of his works.. If "value" currently is correct, people should have no issues trading 4 Mocad prints for 1 single regular release.. and we can all agree that will never happen Just the same as I personally wouldn't buy just the headlight off a Ferrari ... Some people are happy about the 1k prints, others are upset because regardless of perceived value etc, they feel he's watering down and pushing his market to a breaking point. Same reason some love recent vinyl, some entirely walked away from collecting him because of it. There's no right or wrong, and the art side of the discussion isn't even an argument, it's just coming down to value to some people and defending that.. we all know artistically these are a nice afterthought. But we also know some people hyping these made fun of others for framing signed books, show cards, etc.. which in my theory are on par with this if not above it in terms of thought out process |
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by Inknart on Jun 7, 2019 1:18:13 GMT 1, Ugh, yeah correct. Pointing out how similar some of these MOCAD prints are to actual prints from an edition. A so called scrap that apparently doesn’t have the same substance as full prints... I understand you're defending the release But I feel youre missing the point.. it's not an intended release. He didn't sit back and design an 8" print. He did design that larger version that was part of an intended set of 10 made to play off others, which is also why those prints singly are worth less than others.. and avoided by some collectors entirely.. Artist intent is what some people dislike about this .. that's the bottom line. Along with size, image, etc The fact that 1 in 50 of these resembles a weak image from a set of 10 doesn't mean anything... You love the mocads.. and that's cool, I'm happy for you and happy you have some.. but we don't all have to feel the same, even if we're fans of his works.. If "value" currently is correct, people should have no issues trading 4 Mocad prints for 1 single regular release.. and we can all agree that will never happen Just the same as I personally wouldn't buy just the headlight off a Ferrari ... Some people are happy about the 1k prints, others are upset because regardless of perceived value etc, they feel he's watering down and pushing his market to a breaking point. Same reason some love recent vinyl, some entirely walked away from collecting him because of it. There's no right or wrong, and the art side of the discussion isn't even an argument, it's just coming down to value to some people and defending that.. we all know artistically these are a nice afterthought. But we also know some people hyping these made fun of others for framing signed books, show cards, etc.. which in my theory are on par with this if not above it in terms of thought out process
People comparing cut outs from Keith Harring... If you want to compare pieces of artists at least add your reasoning to other abstract artists. I still don't think if lets say you had an 8x10" of a Pollock that was signed it would be considered a scrap.
If KAWS disappeared tomorrow, I highly doubt these would be compared to books or show cards either.
I appreciate opinions and discussions, but people who have an opposite view on these make it personal as if their opinion is the only one that matters, name calling ect.
Value will come into perspective over time. Most people reference auction results for everything here, but then when one of these sells for 10k , it's irrelevant, unless it's something that person owns.
Ugh, yeah correct. Pointing out how similar some of these MOCAD prints are to actual prints from an edition. A so called scrap that apparently doesn’t have the same substance as full prints... I understand you're defending the release But I feel youre missing the point.. it's not an intended release. He didn't sit back and design an 8" print. He did design that larger version that was part of an intended set of 10 made to play off others, which is also why those prints singly are worth less than others.. and avoided by some collectors entirely.. Artist intent is what some people dislike about this .. that's the bottom line. Along with size, image, etc The fact that 1 in 50 of these resembles a weak image from a set of 10 doesn't mean anything... You love the mocads.. and that's cool, I'm happy for you and happy you have some.. but we don't all have to feel the same, even if we're fans of his works.. If "value" currently is correct, people should have no issues trading 4 Mocad prints for 1 single regular release.. and we can all agree that will never happen Just the same as I personally wouldn't buy just the headlight off a Ferrari ... Some people are happy about the 1k prints, others are upset because regardless of perceived value etc, they feel he's watering down and pushing his market to a breaking point. Same reason some love recent vinyl, some entirely walked away from collecting him because of it. There's no right or wrong, and the art side of the discussion isn't even an argument, it's just coming down to value to some people and defending that.. we all know artistically these are a nice afterthought. But we also know some people hyping these made fun of others for framing signed books, show cards, etc.. which in my theory are on par with this if not above it in terms of thought out process Not really defending, just adding my opinion. Some of these are really horrible and I agree the argument always is always value based. Outside of value I'm just adding my opinion on a lot of these being almost identical to his previous editions with as much or more substance. People comparing cut outs from Keith Harring... If you want to compare pieces of artists at least add your reasoning to other abstract artists. I still don't think if lets say you had an 8x10" of a Pollock that was signed it would be considered a scrap. If KAWS disappeared tomorrow, I highly doubt these would be compared to books or show cards either. I appreciate opinions and discussions, but people who have an opposite view on these make it personal as if their opinion is the only one that matters, name calling ect. Value will come into perspective over time. Most people reference auction results for everything here, but then when one of these sells for 10k , it's irrelevant, unless it's something that person owns. |
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by Hairbland on Jun 7, 2019 2:59:44 GMT 1, Ugh, yeah correct. Pointing out how similar some of these MOCAD prints are to actual prints from an edition. A so called scrap that apparently doesn’t have the same substance as full prints... I understand you're defending the release But I feel youre missing the point.. it's not an intended release. He didn't sit back and design an 8" print. He did design that larger version that was part of an intended set of 10 made to play off others, which is also why those prints singly are worth less than others.. and avoided by some collectors entirely.. Artist intent is what some people dislike about this .. that's the bottom line. Along with size, image, etc The fact that 1 in 50 of these resembles a weak image from a set of 10 doesn't mean anything... You love the mocads.. and that's cool, I'm happy for you and happy you have some.. but we don't all have to feel the same, even if we're fans of his works.. If "value" currently is correct, people should have no issues trading 4 Mocad prints for 1 single regular release.. and we can all agree that will never happen Just the same as I personally wouldn't buy just the headlight off a Ferrari ... Some people are happy about the 1k prints, others are upset because regardless of perceived value etc, they feel he's watering down and pushing his market to a breaking point. Same reason some love recent vinyl, some entirely walked away from collecting him because of it. There's no right or wrong, and the art side of the discussion isn't even an argument, it's just coming down to value to some people and defending that.. we all know artistically these are a nice afterthought. But we also know some people hyping these made fun of others for framing signed books, show cards, etc.. which in my theory are on par with this if not above it in terms of thought out process
You can’t drive a Ferrari headlight, but you can hand a mini-print on the wall, so that’s sounding like a bad analogy. Last paragraph comes across as ignorant. Carry on.
Ugh, yeah correct. Pointing out how similar some of these MOCAD prints are to actual prints from an edition. A so called scrap that apparently doesn’t have the same substance as full prints... I understand you're defending the release But I feel youre missing the point.. it's not an intended release. He didn't sit back and design an 8" print. He did design that larger version that was part of an intended set of 10 made to play off others, which is also why those prints singly are worth less than others.. and avoided by some collectors entirely.. Artist intent is what some people dislike about this .. that's the bottom line. Along with size, image, etc The fact that 1 in 50 of these resembles a weak image from a set of 10 doesn't mean anything... You love the mocads.. and that's cool, I'm happy for you and happy you have some.. but we don't all have to feel the same, even if we're fans of his works.. If "value" currently is correct, people should have no issues trading 4 Mocad prints for 1 single regular release.. and we can all agree that will never happen Just the same as I personally wouldn't buy just the headlight off a Ferrari ... Some people are happy about the 1k prints, others are upset because regardless of perceived value etc, they feel he's watering down and pushing his market to a breaking point. Same reason some love recent vinyl, some entirely walked away from collecting him because of it. There's no right or wrong, and the art side of the discussion isn't even an argument, it's just coming down to value to some people and defending that.. we all know artistically these are a nice afterthought. But we also know some people hyping these made fun of others for framing signed books, show cards, etc.. which in my theory are on par with this if not above it in terms of thought out process You can’t drive a Ferrari headlight, but you can hand a mini-print on the wall, so that’s sounding like a bad analogy. Last paragraph comes across as ignorant. Carry on. |
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by touchdowntodd on Jun 7, 2019 3:03:41 GMT 1, I understand you're defending the release But I feel youre missing the point.. it's not an intended release. He didn't sit back and design an 8" print. He did design that larger version that was part of an intended set of 10 made to play off others, which is also why those prints singly are worth less than others.. and avoided by some collectors entirely.. Artist intent is what some people dislike about this .. that's the bottom line. Along with size, image, etc The fact that 1 in 50 of these resembles a weak image from a set of 10 doesn't mean anything... You love the mocads.. and that's cool, I'm happy for you and happy you have some.. but we don't all have to feel the same, even if we're fans of his works.. If "value" currently is correct, people should have no issues trading 4 Mocad prints for 1 single regular release.. and we can all agree that will never happen Just the same as I personally wouldn't buy just the headlight off a Ferrari ... Some people are happy about the 1k prints, others are upset because regardless of perceived value etc, they feel he's watering down and pushing his market to a breaking point. Same reason some love recent vinyl, some entirely walked away from collecting him because of it. There's no right or wrong, and the art side of the discussion isn't even an argument, it's just coming down to value to some people and defending that.. we all know artistically these are a nice afterthought. But we also know some people hyping these made fun of others for framing signed books, show cards, etc.. which in my theory are on par with this if not above it in terms of thought out process You can’t drive a Ferrari headlight, but you can hand a mini-print on the wall, so that’s sounding like a bad analogy. Last paragraph comes across as ignorant. Carry on.
Please explain how cutting up prints you made years back is less of an afterthought than an image selected by artist and agreed upon by gallery prior to event then printed and given to attendees show card...
Or do you usually go back a few years and randomly dissect your thoughts?
I understand you're defending the release But I feel youre missing the point.. it's not an intended release. He didn't sit back and design an 8" print. He did design that larger version that was part of an intended set of 10 made to play off others, which is also why those prints singly are worth less than others.. and avoided by some collectors entirely.. Artist intent is what some people dislike about this .. that's the bottom line. Along with size, image, etc The fact that 1 in 50 of these resembles a weak image from a set of 10 doesn't mean anything... You love the mocads.. and that's cool, I'm happy for you and happy you have some.. but we don't all have to feel the same, even if we're fans of his works.. If "value" currently is correct, people should have no issues trading 4 Mocad prints for 1 single regular release.. and we can all agree that will never happen Just the same as I personally wouldn't buy just the headlight off a Ferrari ... Some people are happy about the 1k prints, others are upset because regardless of perceived value etc, they feel he's watering down and pushing his market to a breaking point. Same reason some love recent vinyl, some entirely walked away from collecting him because of it. There's no right or wrong, and the art side of the discussion isn't even an argument, it's just coming down to value to some people and defending that.. we all know artistically these are a nice afterthought. But we also know some people hyping these made fun of others for framing signed books, show cards, etc.. which in my theory are on par with this if not above it in terms of thought out process You can’t drive a Ferrari headlight, but you can hand a mini-print on the wall, so that’s sounding like a bad analogy. Last paragraph comes across as ignorant. Carry on. Please explain how cutting up prints you made years back is less of an afterthought than an image selected by artist and agreed upon by gallery prior to event then printed and given to attendees show card... Or do you usually go back a few years and randomly dissect your thoughts? |
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19818914
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by 19818914 on Jun 7, 2019 7:19:54 GMT 1, Yo guys. Look. It’s all good. It’s a cut up of a print. If you like it you like it. If you don’t you don’t.
This release was a gamble. Everyone was hoping for a composition and color scheme they would love. Some got it. Some didn’t. I think everyone who purchased was old enough to realize what they were doing.
The market is changing. Artists are releasing more editions and
Introducing smaller prints. You have to decide if it’s worth it for you to continue collecting.
Yo guys. Look. It’s all good. It’s a cut up of a print. If you like it you like it. If you don’t you don’t.
This release was a gamble. Everyone was hoping for a composition and color scheme they would love. Some got it. Some didn’t. I think everyone who purchased was old enough to realize what they were doing.
The market is changing. Artists are releasing more editions and
Introducing smaller prints. You have to decide if it’s worth it for you to continue collecting.
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barzanos
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by barzanos on Jun 7, 2019 20:54:21 GMT 1, Prices at the bay are not that high.. 3400€ there is it ending in less than a day..
Prices at the bay are not that high.. 3400€ there is it ending in less than a day..
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Hairbland
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by Hairbland on Jun 7, 2019 23:35:28 GMT 1, You can’t drive a Ferrari headlight, but you can hand a mini-print on the wall, so that’s sounding like a bad analogy. Last paragraph comes across as ignorant. Carry on. Please explain how cutting up prints you made years back is less of an afterthought than an image selected by artist and agreed upon by gallery prior to event then printed and given to attendees show card... Or do you usually go back a few years and randomly dissect your thoughts?
Your thoughts don’t add up, you are obviously arguing from an emotional point of view. Are there any galleries involved with these, or is he doing this for charities and people on places like here are arguing over gossamer? If you knew anything about art history you would know that many artists go back and re-evaluate, re-purpose, re-think past ideas. Musicians too. And again, one more time, this is something he did for charity, so personally I think your arguments hold no water.
You can’t drive a Ferrari headlight, but you can hand a mini-print on the wall, so that’s sounding like a bad analogy. Last paragraph comes across as ignorant. Carry on. Please explain how cutting up prints you made years back is less of an afterthought than an image selected by artist and agreed upon by gallery prior to event then printed and given to attendees show card... Or do you usually go back a few years and randomly dissect your thoughts? Your thoughts don’t add up, you are obviously arguing from an emotional point of view. Are there any galleries involved with these, or is he doing this for charities and people on places like here are arguing over gossamer? If you knew anything about art history you would know that many artists go back and re-evaluate, re-purpose, re-think past ideas. Musicians too. And again, one more time, this is something he did for charity, so personally I think your arguments hold no water. |
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coller
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by coller on Jun 8, 2019 17:12:44 GMT 1, got mine, figured i'd roll the dice in case i got a decent one (i.e. one that is an actual image). nice colors but i am not a fan as the image/lack thereof doesn't do anything for me, so will probably be trading/selling this soon. figured i'd post since i haven't seen this one yet. would have liked something that i wanted to hang, a little disappointing.
got mine, figured i'd roll the dice in case i got a decent one (i.e. one that is an actual image). nice colors but i am not a fan as the image/lack thereof doesn't do anything for me, so will probably be trading/selling this soon. figured i'd post since i haven't seen this one yet. would have liked something that i wanted to hang, a little disappointing. |
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Dive Jedi
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by Dive Jedi on Jun 8, 2019 17:26:03 GMT 1, got mine, figured i'd roll the dice in case i got a decent one (i.e. one that is an actual image). nice colors but i am not a fan as the image/lack thereof doesn't do anything for me, so will probably be trading/selling this soon. figured i'd post since i haven't seen this one yet. would have liked something that i wanted to hang, a little disappointing.
got mine, figured i'd roll the dice in case i got a decent one (i.e. one that is an actual image). nice colors but i am not a fan as the image/lack thereof doesn't do anything for me, so will probably be trading/selling this soon. figured i'd post since i haven't seen this one yet. would have liked something that i wanted to hang, a little disappointing. Very Mondriaan ! |
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by Jalouse Rosemont on Jun 8, 2019 17:28:11 GMT 1, got mine, figured i'd roll the dice in case i got a decent one (i.e. one that is an actual image). nice colors but i am not a fan as the image/lack thereof doesn't do anything for me, so will probably be trading/selling this soon. figured i'd post since i haven't seen this one yet. would have liked something that i wanted to hang, a little disappointing. 
EDIT. Damn you Dive Jedi ... 
got mine, figured i'd roll the dice in case i got a decent one (i.e. one that is an actual image). nice colors but i am not a fan as the image/lack thereof doesn't do anything for me, so will probably be trading/selling this soon. figured i'd post since i haven't seen this one yet. would have liked something that i wanted to hang, a little disappointing. ... Is that print by Piet Mondrian? EDIT. Damn you Dive Jedi ... |
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jasper73
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by jasper73 on Jun 8, 2019 18:01:35 GMT 1, got mine, figured i'd roll the dice in case i got a decent one (i.e. one that is an actual image). nice colors but i am not a fan as the image/lack thereof doesn't do anything for me, so will probably be trading/selling this soon. figured i'd post since i haven't seen this one yet. would have liked something that i wanted to hang, a little disappointing.
I like it!. It stands out for being different from the rest I've seen. And yes a Mondrian Kaws.
got mine, figured i'd roll the dice in case i got a decent one (i.e. one that is an actual image). nice colors but i am not a fan as the image/lack thereof doesn't do anything for me, so will probably be trading/selling this soon. figured i'd post since i haven't seen this one yet. would have liked something that i wanted to hang, a little disappointing. I like it!. It stands out for being different from the rest I've seen. And yes a Mondrian Kaws. |
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coller
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Kaws • MOCAD Print Edition, by coller on Jun 8, 2019 18:04:04 GMT 1, i might setup a thread for ppl to trade their kaws mocad prints with each other. maybe someone likes mine and i like theirs.
i might setup a thread for ppl to trade their kaws mocad prints with each other. maybe someone likes mine and i like theirs.
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