moron
Junior Member
🗨️ 2,711
👍🏻 1,051
September 2017
|
|
|
|
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by Adam The Collector on Jun 24, 2019 2:24:58 GMT 1, So Banksy is McLeod!? Mystery solved people...
So Banksy is McLeod!? Mystery solved people...
|
|
|
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by jimbofatz on Jun 24, 2019 3:22:56 GMT 1, "If he had an original thought it'd die of loneliness." - Bobby "the Brain" Heenan
|
|
|
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by Coach on Jun 24, 2019 9:05:33 GMT 1, There is another, much more comprehensive, thread about Banksy’s source material.
Though the tone was quite different.
There is another, much more comprehensive, thread about Banksy’s source material.
Though the tone was quite different.
|
|
|
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by Always Second on Jun 24, 2019 11:07:11 GMT 1, There is another, much more comprehensive, thread about Banksy’s source material. Though the tone was quite different.
I agree, tone in general has changed quiet a bit last couple of years if you ask me. Such a shame.....
There is another, much more comprehensive, thread about Banksy’s source material. Though the tone was quite different. I agree, tone in general has changed quiet a bit last couple of years if you ask me. Such a shame..... |
|
|
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by Coach on Jun 24, 2019 11:21:36 GMT 1, There is another, much more comprehensive, thread about Banksy’s source material. Though the tone was quite different. I agree, tone in general has changed quiet a bit last couple of years if you ask me. Such a shame.....
Indeed. If memory serves (though quite possibly I have rose tinted spectacles in this regard) that long thread had an element of joy at seeing Banksy’s source material.
I find it rather odd that any artist might be criticised for using source material. The artistic creativity is in what they make of that material, surely.
There is another, much more comprehensive, thread about Banksy’s source material. Though the tone was quite different. I agree, tone in general has changed quiet a bit last couple of years if you ask me. Such a shame..... Indeed. If memory serves (though quite possibly I have rose tinted spectacles in this regard) that long thread had an element of joy at seeing Banksy’s source material. I find it rather odd that any artist might be criticised for using source material. The artistic creativity is in what they make of that material, surely. |
|
|
|
Hairbland
Junior Member
🗨️ 2,946
👍🏻 2,740
November 2010
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by Hairbland on Jun 24, 2019 12:25:13 GMT 1, I agree, tone in general has changed quiet a bit last couple of years if you ask me. Such a shame..... Indeed. If memory serves (though quite possibly I have rose tinted spectacles in this regard) that long thread had an element of joy at seeing Banksy’s source material. I find it rather odd that any artist might be criticised for using source material. The artistic creativity is in what they make of that material, surely.
The OP is a frustrated artist and long time Banksy-hater. I remember heated arguments in the late 70’s with artists that hated Warhol.
I agree, tone in general has changed quiet a bit last couple of years if you ask me. Such a shame..... Indeed. If memory serves (though quite possibly I have rose tinted spectacles in this regard) that long thread had an element of joy at seeing Banksy’s source material. I find it rather odd that any artist might be criticised for using source material. The artistic creativity is in what they make of that material, surely. The OP is a frustrated artist and long time Banksy-hater. I remember heated arguments in the late 70’s with artists that hated Warhol. |
|
mojo
Junior Member
🗨️ 2,190
👍🏻 3,721
May 2014
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by mojo on Jun 24, 2019 13:31:46 GMT 1, The bad artists imitate the great artists steal.
The bad artists imitate the great artists steal.
|
|
chevyav53
Junior Member
🗨️ 1,356
👍🏻 1,134
August 2017
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by chevyav53 on Jun 24, 2019 14:18:26 GMT 1, I think sentiment will continue to change toward being more critical of artists of all trades who are not original or don’t give credit for their inspiration. But when you hide behind a mask what do you expect. Will be interesting to see where Banksy’s art is in 20 years as much of the works are not wall worthy and why they stay in flat files.
I think sentiment will continue to change toward being more critical of artists of all trades who are not original or don’t give credit for their inspiration. But when you hide behind a mask what do you expect. Will be interesting to see where Banksy’s art is in 20 years as much of the works are not wall worthy and why they stay in flat files.
|
|
chevyav53
Junior Member
🗨️ 1,356
👍🏻 1,134
August 2017
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by chevyav53 on Jun 24, 2019 15:26:47 GMT 1, I think sentiment will continue to change toward being more critical of artists of all trades who are not original or don’t give credit for their inspiration. But when you hide behind a mask what do you expect. Will be interesting to see where Banksy’s art is in 20 years as much of the works are not wall worthy and why they stay in flat files. Says a tabby fan 😂🤣
Either sad you went through my posts to find that I’m a fan or you remember. Anything constructive to say or just stalking sad little man?
As for Tabby, I do enjoy his work but many I would not put on my wall. The only piece that I’ve bought is How to be Loved resin as it translates well for display and I enjoy it daily.
I think sentiment will continue to change toward being more critical of artists of all trades who are not original or don’t give credit for their inspiration. But when you hide behind a mask what do you expect. Will be interesting to see where Banksy’s art is in 20 years as much of the works are not wall worthy and why they stay in flat files. Says a tabby fan 😂🤣 Either sad you went through my posts to find that I’m a fan or you remember. Anything constructive to say or just stalking sad little man? As for Tabby, I do enjoy his work but many I would not put on my wall. The only piece that I’ve bought is How to be Loved resin as it translates well for display and I enjoy it daily. |
|
|
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by fasttwitch on Jun 24, 2019 18:09:37 GMT 1, I remember seeing the Flags image and LIITA image that Banksy used but did not know about these until now. It does actually change how I think about the man who takes big profits from these images. For those in academics plagiarism could be a serious offence. In the music industry the artist who writes the song receives compensation despite the execution of the song being done by another.
Banksy is not about the art it's about the ideas which are unfortunately not Banksy.
I remember seeing the Flags image and LIITA image that Banksy used but did not know about these until now. It does actually change how I think about the man who takes big profits from these images. For those in academics plagiarism could be a serious offence. In the music industry the artist who writes the song receives compensation despite the execution of the song being done by another.
Banksy is not about the art it's about the ideas which are unfortunately not Banksy.
|
|
|
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by Adam The Collector on Jun 24, 2019 18:26:49 GMT 1, I have never seen these images other than the Flags photo and am really enjoying it! Being able to see where Banksy pulled imagery / inspiration from with these other images is excellent. It should not diminish your appreciation or thought of originality for the artist. All artists are pulling and playing off from contemporaries and past artists alike. No big deal, this is just understanding more in depth the man himself! 20 years out, cant wait to see what his market looks like then and what collections his prints reside in.
I have never seen these images other than the Flags photo and am really enjoying it! Being able to see where Banksy pulled imagery / inspiration from with these other images is excellent. It should not diminish your appreciation or thought of originality for the artist. All artists are pulling and playing off from contemporaries and past artists alike. No big deal, this is just understanding more in depth the man himself! 20 years out, cant wait to see what his market looks like then and what collections his prints reside in.
|
|
|
|
nex
Junior Member
🗨️ 2,573
👍🏻 1,819
February 2009
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by nex on Jun 24, 2019 18:44:06 GMT 1, I think sentiment will continue to change toward being more critical of artists of all trades who are not original or don’t give credit for their inspiration. But when you hide behind a mask what do you expect. Will be interesting to see where Banksy’s art is in 20 years as much of the works are not wall worthy and why they stay in flat files.
In all honesty that is utter bollocks
I think sentiment will continue to change toward being more critical of artists of all trades who are not original or don’t give credit for their inspiration. But when you hide behind a mask what do you expect. Will be interesting to see where Banksy’s art is in 20 years as much of the works are not wall worthy and why they stay in flat files. In all honesty that is utter bollocks |
|
|
|
|
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by Coach on Jun 24, 2019 18:45:31 GMT 1, I have never seen these images other than the Flags photo and am really enjoying it! Being able to see where Banksy pulled imagery / inspiration from with these other images is excellent. It should not diminish your appreciation or thought of originality for the artist. All artists are pulling and playing off from contemporaries and past artists alike. No big deal, this is just understanding more in depth the man himself! 20 years out, cant wait to see what his market looks like then and what collections his prints reside in.
Spot on.
.dappy any chance you can find and link the thread with lots of source images? It’s an interesting read. I’ve tried and failed.
I have never seen these images other than the Flags photo and am really enjoying it! Being able to see where Banksy pulled imagery / inspiration from with these other images is excellent. It should not diminish your appreciation or thought of originality for the artist. All artists are pulling and playing off from contemporaries and past artists alike. No big deal, this is just understanding more in depth the man himself! 20 years out, cant wait to see what his market looks like then and what collections his prints reside in. Spot on. .dappy any chance you can find and link the thread with lots of source images? It’s an interesting read. I’ve tried and failed. |
|
nex
Junior Member
🗨️ 2,573
👍🏻 1,819
February 2009
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by nex on Jun 24, 2019 18:47:20 GMT 1, I remember seeing the Flags image and LIITA image that Banksy used but did not know about these until now. It does actually change how I think about the man who takes big profits from these images. For those in academics plagiarism could be a serious offence. In the music industry the artist who writes the song receives compensation despite the execution of the song being done by another. Banksy is not about the art it's about the ideas which are unfortunately not Banksy.
He makes big profits from them 🤦♂️
Are you sure about that?
And Yet, he hardly fucking matters because his creation sufficiently different to be defined as a new piece of art - so you know get back in your Ill informed box
I remember seeing the Flags image and LIITA image that Banksy used but did not know about these until now. It does actually change how I think about the man who takes big profits from these images. For those in academics plagiarism could be a serious offence. In the music industry the artist who writes the song receives compensation despite the execution of the song being done by another. Banksy is not about the art it's about the ideas which are unfortunately not Banksy. He makes big profits from them 🤦♂️ Are you sure about that? And Yet, he hardly fucking matters because his creation sufficiently different to be defined as a new piece of art - so you know get back in your Ill informed box |
|
|
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by Coach on Jun 24, 2019 18:48:22 GMT 1, I remember seeing the Flags image and LIITA image that Banksy used but did not know about these until now. It does actually change how I think about the man who takes big profits from these images. For those in academics plagiarism could be a serious offence. In the music industry the artist who writes the song receives compensation despite the execution of the song being done by another. Banksy is not about the art it's about the ideas which are unfortunately not Banksy.
Taking those images above and comparing them to Banksy’s work, one could certainly say he drew inspiration from them. But his final works cannot, in my opinion, be described as plagiarism.
I remember seeing the Flags image and LIITA image that Banksy used but did not know about these until now. It does actually change how I think about the man who takes big profits from these images. For those in academics plagiarism could be a serious offence. In the music industry the artist who writes the song receives compensation despite the execution of the song being done by another. Banksy is not about the art it's about the ideas which are unfortunately not Banksy. Taking those images above and comparing them to Banksy’s work, one could certainly say he drew inspiration from them. But his final works cannot, in my opinion, be described as plagiarism. |
|
chevyav53
Junior Member
🗨️ 1,356
👍🏻 1,134
August 2017
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by chevyav53 on Jun 24, 2019 18:48:28 GMT 1, Still have to look for it, unless I don't know the short cut, it is sad for someone to go through around 10 pages of show more in my activity to find something to justify a sentiment about some art they have..... but as I said, the resin 
Still have to look for it, unless I don't know the short cut, it is sad for someone to go through around 10 pages of show more in my activity to find something to justify a sentiment about some art they have..... but as I said, the resin |
|
.dappy
Full Member
🗨️ 9,841
👍🏻 9,462
December 2010
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by .dappy on Jun 24, 2019 18:49:43 GMT 1, Still have to look for it, unless I don't know the short cut, it is sad for someone to go through around 10 pages of show more in my activity to find something to justify a sentiment about some art they have..... but as I said, the resin
... just two clicks to be fair ...
Still have to look for it, unless I don't know the short cut, it is sad for someone to go through around 10 pages of show more in my activity to find something to justify a sentiment about some art they have..... but as I said, the resin ... just two clicks to be fair ... |
|
chevyav53
Junior Member
🗨️ 1,356
👍🏻 1,134
August 2017
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by chevyav53 on Jun 24, 2019 18:53:16 GMT 1, Still have to look for it, unless I don't know the short cut, it is sad for someone to go through around 10 pages of show more in my activity to find something to justify a sentiment about some art they have..... but as I said, the resin ... just two clicks to be fair ... 
Still have to look for it, unless I don't know the short cut, it is sad for someone to go through around 10 pages of show more in my activity to find something to justify a sentiment about some art they have..... but as I said, the resin ... just two clicks to be fair ... Love to know how to do that as this thread won't go anywhere as Banksy's wanker is too far down 90% of the forum's throat to have an objective discussion |
|
chevyav53
Junior Member
🗨️ 1,356
👍🏻 1,134
August 2017
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by chevyav53 on Jun 24, 2019 19:58:17 GMT 1, Still have to look for it, unless I don't know the short cut, it is sad for someone to go through around 10 pages of show more in my activity to find something to justify a sentiment about some art they have..... but as I said, the resin Don't flatter yourself I don't need to look back at anything you been talking, and buying s**t since you got here
Still have to look for it, unless I don't know the short cut, it is sad for someone to go through around 10 pages of show more in my activity to find something to justify a sentiment about some art they have..... but as I said, the resin Don't flatter yourself I don't need to look back at anything you been talking, and buying s**t since you got here Ohh uhh someone is sensitive..... and ya did look back but its ok, your attempt failed but it was a good try and that's what matters....... |
|
singo369
New Member
🗨️ 564
👍🏻 588
April 2016
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by singo369 on Jun 24, 2019 20:02:14 GMT 1, Don't flatter yourself I don't need to look back at anything you been talking, and buying s**t since you got here Ohh uhh someone is sensitive..... and ya did look back but its ok, your attempt failed but it was a good try and that's what matters.......
Don't flatter yourself I don't need to look back at anything you been talking, and buying s**t since you got here Ohh uhh someone is sensitive..... and ya did look back but its ok, your attempt failed but it was a good try and that's what matters....... |
|
|
|
|
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by fasttwitch on Jun 24, 2019 20:10:12 GMT 1, I remember seeing the Flags image and LIITA image that Banksy used but did not know about these until now. It does actually change how I think about the man who takes big profits from these images. For those in academics plagiarism could be a serious offence. In the music industry the artist who writes the song receives compensation despite the execution of the song being done by another. Banksy is not about the art it's about the ideas which are unfortunately not Banksy. Taking those images above and comparing them to Banksy’s work, one could certainly say he drew inspiration from them. But his final works cannot, in my opinion, be described as plagiarism.
/ˈplājəˌrizəm/
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own.
I remember seeing the Flags image and LIITA image that Banksy used but did not know about these until now. It does actually change how I think about the man who takes big profits from these images. For those in academics plagiarism could be a serious offence. In the music industry the artist who writes the song receives compensation despite the execution of the song being done by another. Banksy is not about the art it's about the ideas which are unfortunately not Banksy. Taking those images above and comparing them to Banksy’s work, one could certainly say he drew inspiration from them. But his final works cannot, in my opinion, be described as plagiarism. pla·gia·rism /ˈplājəˌrizəm/ noun the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own. |
|
Dive Jedi
Junior Member
🗨️ 6,194
👍🏻 9,453
October 2015
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by Dive Jedi on Jun 24, 2019 20:17:19 GMT 1, boring
/ˈbɔːrɪŋ/
adjective
adjective: boring
not interesting; tedious.
"I've got a boring job in an office"
synoniemen:
tedious, dull, monotonous;
Oh, sorry. Was that plagiarism ?
boring /ˈbɔːrɪŋ/ adjective adjective: boring not interesting; tedious. "I've got a boring job in an office" synoniemen: tedious, dull, monotonous; Oh, sorry. Was that plagiarism ? |
|
|
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by Coach on Jun 24, 2019 20:26:54 GMT 1, Taking those images above and comparing them to Banksy’s work, one could certainly say he drew inspiration from them. But his final works cannot, in my opinion, be described as plagiarism. pla·gia·rism /ˈplājəˌrizəm/ noun the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own.
Thanks for that. As it happens I already knew what the word meant. I guess the part we disagree about is the passing them off as his own bit.
As I understand it, it is quite established in IP law that an artist can use a source material, and what they create becomes their own, provided it is in some way changed (please forgive the clumsy language I have used).
You may say that you don’t care about IP law, and that this is a moral or ethical discussion. Fair enough. We all have our own moral codes. I would say that so far as I’m concerned IP law happens to match my views so far as the moral or ethical discussion is concerned.
Taking those images above and comparing them to Banksy’s work, one could certainly say he drew inspiration from them. But his final works cannot, in my opinion, be described as plagiarism. pla·gia·rism /ˈplājəˌrizəm/ noun the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own. Thanks for that. As it happens I already knew what the word meant. I guess the part we disagree about is the passing them off as his own bit. As I understand it, it is quite established in IP law that an artist can use a source material, and what they create becomes their own, provided it is in some way changed (please forgive the clumsy language I have used). You may say that you don’t care about IP law, and that this is a moral or ethical discussion. Fair enough. We all have our own moral codes. I would say that so far as I’m concerned IP law happens to match my views so far as the moral or ethical discussion is concerned. |
|
sharpy
New Member
🗨️ 215
👍🏻 59
April 2007
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by sharpy on Jun 24, 2019 20:56:48 GMT 1, I have never seen these images other than the Flags photo and am really enjoying it! Being able to see where Banksy pulled imagery / inspiration from with these other images is excellent. It should not diminish your appreciation or thought of originality for the artist. All artists are pulling and playing off from contemporaries and past artists alike. No big deal, this is just understanding more in depth the man himself! 20 years out, cant wait to see what his market looks like then and what collections his prints reside in. Spot on. .dappy any chance you can find and link the thread with lots of source images? It’s an interesting read. I’ve tried and failed.
This would be very interesting to read...I also can’t find it
I have never seen these images other than the Flags photo and am really enjoying it! Being able to see where Banksy pulled imagery / inspiration from with these other images is excellent. It should not diminish your appreciation or thought of originality for the artist. All artists are pulling and playing off from contemporaries and past artists alike. No big deal, this is just understanding more in depth the man himself! 20 years out, cant wait to see what his market looks like then and what collections his prints reside in. Spot on. .dappy any chance you can find and link the thread with lots of source images? It’s an interesting read. I’ve tried and failed. This would be very interesting to read...I also can’t find it |
|
|
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by Coach on Jun 24, 2019 21:02:37 GMT 1, Spot on. .dappy any chance you can find and link the thread with lots of source images? It’s an interesting read. I’ve tried and failed. This would be very interesting to read...I also can’t find it
.dappy come on mate, help us out. Your good at this stuff.
Spot on. .dappy any chance you can find and link the thread with lots of source images? It’s an interesting read. I’ve tried and failed. This would be very interesting to read...I also can’t find it come on mate, help us out. Your good at this stuff. |
|
eyectopus
Junior Member
🗨️ 1,104
👍🏻 794
June 2008
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by eyectopus on Jun 24, 2019 21:47:05 GMT 1, This would be very interesting to read...I also can’t find it come on mate, help us out. Your good at this stuff.
Here is one of the threads that discussed the reference images:
urbanartassociation.com/thread/70132?page=1
|
|
|
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by Coach on Jun 24, 2019 22:04:14 GMT 1,
Thank you very much.
It’s a bit of a shame that so many pics can’t be seen since photobucket changed it’s modus operandi
Thank you very much. It’s a bit of a shame that so many pics can’t be seen since photobucket changed it’s modus operandi |
|
|
|
Banksy, and how a picture tells a thousand lies, by jimbofatz on Jun 24, 2019 22:05:31 GMT 1, Lets get to the point already. Just cash out and play Coachella and Glastonbury already so Silk doesn't have to keep paying for this garbage and I can stop checking this site once every three months like its some horrible chronic disease.
Lets get to the point already. Just cash out and play Coachella and Glastonbury already so Silk doesn't have to keep paying for this garbage and I can stop checking this site once every three months like its some horrible chronic disease.
|
|
