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Banksy Watchtower , by jB on Oct 3, 2012 14:54:57 GMT 1, I was wondering if anyone can provide some current details as to pricing of an original version (non collab) Banksy Watchtower sculpture, edition of 15 on olive wood from Bethlehem's Santa Ghetto in 2007? Thanks.
I was wondering if anyone can provide some current details as to pricing of an original version (non collab) Banksy Watchtower sculpture, edition of 15 on olive wood from Bethlehem's Santa Ghetto in 2007? Thanks.
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Banksy Watchtower , by Collection 1 on Oct 3, 2012 14:59:07 GMT 1, Went for $7000 (hammer price) in Bonhams in 2011.
Went for $7000 (hammer price) in Bonhams in 2011.
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Banksy Watchtower , by Fred Quimby Fan on Oct 3, 2012 15:15:28 GMT 1, Was offered one recently for ยฃ4700
Was offered one recently for ยฃ4700
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Banksy Watchtower , by craigf on Oct 3, 2012 15:17:09 GMT 1, Was offered one recently for ยฃ4700
That seems a good price i.e. less than I paid 
Was offered one recently for ยฃ4700 That seems a good price i.e. less than I paid |
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Banksy Watchtower , by Tompkins on Oct 3, 2012 15:30:48 GMT 1, Just like the gold flag, I've watched prices come down quite drastically over the last 3 or 4 years.
Just like the gold flag, I've watched prices come down quite drastically over the last 3 or 4 years.
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Banksy Watchtower , by nacional on Oct 3, 2012 17:36:26 GMT 1, How much does a Gold Flag go for these days???
How much does a Gold Flag go for these days???
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Banksy Watchtower , by Tompkins on Oct 3, 2012 17:52:11 GMT 1, 4k
4k
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Banksy Watchtower , by jB on Oct 3, 2012 17:57:04 GMT 1,
BTW: If anyone has a gold flag for 4K GBP Please let me know.
I'll make it a quick transaction. TA
BTW: If anyone has a gold flag for 4K GBP Please let me know. I'll make it a quick transaction. TA |
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Banksy Watchtower , by brooksie82 on Oct 3, 2012 18:22:17 GMT 1, Pity those Flags were done on such hideous paper, didn't do the image any justice what so ever.
Pity those Flags were done on such hideous paper, didn't do the image any justice what so ever.
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Banksy Watchtower , by Tompkins on Oct 3, 2012 19:27:05 GMT 1, BTW: If anyone has a gold flag for 4K GBP Please let me know. I'll make it a quick transaction. TA
my mate recently bought one off a well respect forum member and book author recently for 4k the last 2 i watched on ebay sold for under 3k gbp
BTW: If anyone has a gold flag for 4K GBP Please let me know. I'll make it a quick transaction. TA my mate recently bought one off a well respect forum member and book author recently for 4k the last 2 i watched on ebay sold for under 3k gbp |
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Banksy Watchtower , by jB on Oct 4, 2012 16:53:56 GMT 1, Was offered one recently for ยฃ4700
This seems incredibly low for an original work, does it not? Seems like most signed edition prints sell for more than this.
Was offered one recently for ยฃ4700 This seems incredibly low for an original work, does it not? Seems like most signed edition prints sell for more than this. |
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Banksy Watchtower , by payney on Oct 4, 2012 17:02:52 GMT 1, Was offered one recently for ยฃ4700 This seems incredibly low for an original work, does it not? Seems like most signed edition prints sell for more than this.
I think the last one auctioned on eBay fetched little more than this a few months back
Was offered one recently for ยฃ4700 This seems incredibly low for an original work, does it not? Seems like most signed edition prints sell for more than this. I think the last one auctioned on eBay fetched little more than this a few months back |
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Banksy Watchtower , by payney on Oct 4, 2012 17:03:20 GMT 1, Or little less
Or little less
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Banksy Watchtower , by Dice on Oct 4, 2012 23:27:22 GMT 1, Was offered one recently for ยฃ4700 This seems incredibly low for an original work, does it not? Seems like most signed edition prints sell for more than this.
I would rather have a nice print on my wall than a weird piece of wood on my mantlepiece. Rarity does not equal beauty/popularity.
Was offered one recently for ยฃ4700 This seems incredibly low for an original work, does it not? Seems like most signed edition prints sell for more than this. I would rather have a nice print on my wall than a weird piece of wood on my mantlepiece. Rarity does not equal beauty/popularity. |
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Banksy Watchtower , by jB on Oct 5, 2012 2:05:42 GMT 1, This seems incredibly low for an original work, does it not? Seems like most signed edition prints sell for more than this. I would rather have a nice print on my wall than a weird piece of wood on my mantlepiece. Rarity does not equal beauty/popularity.
I don't see these as a weird piece of wood. I find them quite beautiful, both aesthetically and in meaning, I also think that Ghetto in Bethlehem will be an event that will be remembered in the history of Banksy.
This seems incredibly low for an original work, does it not? Seems like most signed edition prints sell for more than this. I would rather have a nice print on my wall than a weird piece of wood on my mantlepiece. Rarity does not equal beauty/popularity. I don't see these as a weird piece of wood. I find them quite beautiful, both aesthetically and in meaning, I also think that Ghetto in Bethlehem will be an event that will be remembered in the history of Banksy. |
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Banksy Watchtower , by craigf on Oct 5, 2012 8:15:11 GMT 1, Each to their own re the watchtowers. In the flesh they are very nice, almost tactile although clearly you don't want a lot of handling and in addition if your walls are already full....
If you look at what an editioned canvas goes for these days they are a bargain and I doubt they will remain this cheap for that long. I am not saying that any day now prices will double, but they are an editioned original rather than an editioned print which for some will mean a lot more further down the road.
Each to their own re the watchtowers. In the flesh they are very nice, almost tactile although clearly you don't want a lot of handling and in addition if your walls are already full....
If you look at what an editioned canvas goes for these days they are a bargain and I doubt they will remain this cheap for that long. I am not saying that any day now prices will double, but they are an editioned original rather than an editioned print which for some will mean a lot more further down the road.
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Banksy Watchtower , by brooksie82 on Oct 30, 2012 3:09:41 GMT 1, Was offered one recently for ยฃ4700 This seems incredibly low for an original work, does it not? Seems like most signed edition prints sell for more than this.
They were carved by someone else though, and exsisted before Banksy signed the bottom of them, so a bit of a rip off of another mans work, wait not even a rip off, he just took someone elses work and signed it!
Was offered one recently for ยฃ4700 This seems incredibly low for an original work, does it not? Seems like most signed edition prints sell for more than this. They were carved by someone else though, and exsisted before Banksy signed the bottom of them, so a bit of a rip off of another mans work, wait not even a rip off, he just took someone elses work and signed it! |
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Banksy Watchtower , by astrobboy on Oct 30, 2012 4:36:19 GMT 1, ... so a bit of a rip off of another mans work, wait not even a rip off, he just took someone elses work and signed it!
mbw
... so a bit of a rip off of another mans work, wait not even a rip off, he just took someone elses work and signed it! mbw |
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Banksy Watchtower , by jB on Oct 30, 2012 6:23:28 GMT 1, This seems incredibly low for an original work, does it not? Seems like most signed edition prints sell for more than this. They were carved by someone else though, and exsisted before Banksy signed the bottom of them, so a bit of a rip off of another mans work, wait not even a rip off, he just took someone elses work and signed it!
I'm sure he doesn't cast his own bronzes either. I still like them though.
This seems incredibly low for an original work, does it not? Seems like most signed edition prints sell for more than this. They were carved by someone else though, and exsisted before Banksy signed the bottom of them, so a bit of a rip off of another mans work, wait not even a rip off, he just took someone elses work and signed it! I'm sure he doesn't cast his own bronzes either. I still like them though. |
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Banksy Watchtower , by brooksie82 on Oct 30, 2012 13:40:18 GMT 1, They were carved by someone else though, and exsisted before Banksy signed the bottom of them, so a bit of a rip off of another mans work, wait not even a rip off, he just took someone elses work and signed it! I'm sure he doesn't cast his own bronzes either. I still like them though.
I mean the whole piece, idea and carving was not Banksy's the guy carved them way before Santa's Ghetto.
They were carved by someone else though, and exsisted before Banksy signed the bottom of them, so a bit of a rip off of another mans work, wait not even a rip off, he just took someone elses work and signed it! I'm sure he doesn't cast his own bronzes either. I still like them though. I mean the whole piece, idea and carving was not Banksy's the guy carved them way before Santa's Ghetto. |
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Banksy Watchtower , by Happy Shopper on Oct 30, 2012 17:45:05 GMT 1, I'm sure he doesn't cast his own bronzes either. I still like them though. I mean the whole piece, idea and carving was not Banksy's the guy carved them way before Santa's Ghetto.
Is that really the case ? It would seem quite out of character, and pretty wierd !
More likely the guy was making something similar, or something completely different, and Banksy asked him to make these !?
Otherwise, why don't we see more unsigned ones ?
I'm sure he doesn't cast his own bronzes either. I still like them though. I mean the whole piece, idea and carving was not Banksy's the guy carved them way before Santa's Ghetto. Is that really the case ? It would seem quite out of character, and pretty wierd ! More likely the guy was making something similar, or something completely different, and Banksy asked him to make these !? Otherwise, why don't we see more unsigned ones ? |
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Banksy Watchtower , by jB on Oct 31, 2012 5:59:49 GMT 1, I'm sure he doesn't cast his own bronzes either. I still like them though. I mean the whole piece, idea and carving was not Banksy's the guy carved them way before Santa's Ghetto.
Interesting to know, would you mind elaborating on who makes these?
I'm sure he doesn't cast his own bronzes either. I still like them though. I mean the whole piece, idea and carving was not Banksy's the guy carved them way before Santa's Ghetto. Interesting to know, would you mind elaborating on who makes these? |
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Banksy Watchtower , by brooksie82 on Oct 31, 2012 8:25:22 GMT 1, I mean the whole piece, idea and carving was not Banksy's the guy carved them way before Santa's Ghetto. Is that really the case ? It would seem quite out of character, and pretty wierd ! More likely the guy was making something similar, or something completely different, and Banksy asked him to make these !? Otherwise, why don't we see more unsigned ones ?
Are you bloody kidding me he's spent half his life ripping off other artists ideas and putting his name/signature on them, out of character, more like totally in character!
Why don't we see more unsigned one? Cause the old bastard that carves them isn't on the Banksy forum, doubt he even has the internet, he lives in a country surrounded by a 10 meter wall built by a fucked up nation created and funded by us!
I mean the whole piece, idea and carving was not Banksy's the guy carved them way before Santa's Ghetto. Is that really the case ? It would seem quite out of character, and pretty wierd ! More likely the guy was making something similar, or something completely different, and Banksy asked him to make these !? Otherwise, why don't we see more unsigned ones ? Are you bloody kidding me he's spent half his life ripping off other artists ideas and putting his name/signature on them, out of character, more like totally in character! Why don't we see more unsigned one? Cause the old bastard that carves them isn't on the Banksy forum, doubt he even has the internet, he lives in a country surrounded by a 10 meter wall built by a fucked up nation created and funded by us! |
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Banksy Watchtower , by saint on Oct 31, 2012 8:32:17 GMT 1, I wish I had bought the Blu collab of these, awesomeness.
Never knew these weren't made by banksy, I would have thought it was a fairly simple job. Cheers for the info.
As for price, no idea although I did offer 4k for one a while ago and got shot down....
I wish I had bought the Blu collab of these, awesomeness.
Never knew these weren't made by banksy, I would have thought it was a fairly simple job. Cheers for the info.
As for price, no idea although I did offer 4k for one a while ago and got shot down....
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Banksy Watchtower , by saint on Oct 31, 2012 8:34:32 GMT 1, From memory these were all sold by placing silent bids on them is that correct or am I remembering wrongly?
From memory these were all sold by placing silent bids on them is that correct or am I remembering wrongly?
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Banksy Watchtower , by My Name is Frank on Oct 31, 2012 8:49:21 GMT 1, I think the 'old bastard' carver Brooksie means died in August this year, Tawfiq Salsaa. The main work of which the towers were added to? He carved Jerusalem from memory, Banksy saw it and added the watch towers. So the watch towers were not ripped of by banksy taking advantage of a palestinian who didnt have a web site to sell his watch towers. The carver himself said banksy brought the watch towers and added them to his Jerusalem carving.
If you want to buy something of the late artist, you can buy a walled nativity for ยฃ70 from the Amos trust.
I think the 'old bastard' carver Brooksie means died in August this year, Tawfiq Salsaa. The main work of which the towers were added to? He carved Jerusalem from memory, Banksy saw it and added the watch towers. So the watch towers were not ripped of by banksy taking advantage of a palestinian who didnt have a web site to sell his watch towers. The carver himself said banksy brought the watch towers and added them to his Jerusalem carving.
If you want to buy something of the late artist, you can buy a walled nativity for ยฃ70 from the Amos trust.
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Banksy Watchtower , by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 9:15:29 GMT 1, These pieces were designed and produced by the artist, in many respects like the Bronze Rats. Banksy commissioned a local palestinian in Bethlehem to carve them out of olive wood from palestinian olive trees. Saint your are correct, these were sold to those who attended via silent bid.
These were not produced prior to Santas Ghetto
These pieces were designed and produced by the artist, in many respects like the Bronze Rats. Banksy commissioned a local palestinian in Bethlehem to carve them out of olive wood from palestinian olive trees. Saint your are correct, these were sold to those who attended via silent bid.
These were not produced prior to Santas Ghetto
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Banksy Watchtower , by brooksie82 on Oct 31, 2012 10:37:07 GMT 1, You guys 100% sure of that 'fact' I'd question it a little bit more if I were you.
You guys 100% sure of that 'fact' I'd question it a little bit more if I were you.
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Banksy Watchtower , by Happy Shopper on Oct 31, 2012 10:55:43 GMT 1, He carved Jerusalem from memory, Banksy saw it and added the watch towers. So the watch towers were not ripped of by banksy taking advantage of a palestinian who didnt have a web site to sell his watch towers. The carver himself said banksy brought the watch towers and added them to his Jerusalem carving. .
That's the story I remember from the time.
Brooksie, if you have some "facts", lets hear them... Any evidence of these being made before Santa's Ghetto ?
He carved Jerusalem from memory, Banksy saw it and added the watch towers. So the watch towers were not ripped of by banksy taking advantage of a palestinian who didnt have a web site to sell his watch towers. The carver himself said banksy brought the watch towers and added them to his Jerusalem carving. . That's the story I remember from the time. Brooksie, if you have some "facts", lets hear them... Any evidence of these being made before Santa's Ghetto ? |
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Banksy Watchtower , by brooksie82 on Oct 31, 2012 16:19:44 GMT 1, I visited Santa's Ghetto and was there during the set up, saw these for sale on the build up to the show along with all the other tourist tat thats all, I think I was with Stuey when I saw them, wasn't shocked at all when Banksy had got people to re -work them, or even sign them as his own, he's done it so much before in the past its just become the norm.
Its like Brainwash but not as tacky.
Don't believe the hype.
I visited Santa's Ghetto and was there during the set up, saw these for sale on the build up to the show along with all the other tourist tat thats all, I think I was with Stuey when I saw them, wasn't shocked at all when Banksy had got people to re -work them, or even sign them as his own, he's done it so much before in the past its just become the norm.
Its like Brainwash but not as tacky.
Don't believe the hype.
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